ferociouslettuce: Trip-hop Essentials

ferociouslettuce 08.17.11	So here's a dozen of my favorite trip hop tracks. You don't have to be on drugs to enjoy these songs but a little pot probably wouldn't hurt.
aok 08.17.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cud_k9f6tqk is my fav trip hop video of all time (feat thom yorke too). I love listening to all of these songs at all points during the day
Deviant. 08.17.11	wtf?
Trebor. 08.17.11	Halftime?
ferociouslettuce 08.17.11	lol. a dozen trip hop songs, 13 songs on the list and a song called halftime placed perfectly in the middle. hmm ...
Deviant. 08.17.11	7, 8 & 9 in a trip hop list? I give up
Trebor. 08.17.11	High?
thunder15 08.17.11	black moth super rainbow?
Rev 08.17.11	6/10 sorry Andy
ferociouslettuce 08.17.11	c'mon now dev you know i know better than that. i was giving 8 and 9 props for influencing the genre since their use of sampling in the late 80s had a major impact on the developing early 90s trip hop scene (i even noted 1 of 2 in their descriptions btw ..) 7 is a joke though
Trebor. 08.17.11	What about Paul's Boutique? That was very influential right?
ferociouslettuce 08.17.11	6 / 10 but why? =(
Deviant. 08.17.11	Their use of sampling really didn't influence anything at all, except their own genre
aok 08.17.11	paul's boutique definitely belongs in a similar spot as public enemy and de la soul. but i mean, there's only so many songs a man can list
aok 08.17.11	the tricky song i posted is a freakin public enemy cover for example. most of those trip hop guys worshipped them and de la soul. are you seriously arguing that the pioneers in using sampling (de la soul, public enemy, the beastie boys) were not a major influence on the 1st album ever made using exclusively sampled material (endtroducing)?
Deviant. 08.17.11	None of the artists you have listed are pioneers in the field of sampling. And just because someone did it, doesn't mean when someone else does it they obviously decided to do exactly what they did
Blaizend 08.17.11	Meh. No Portishead really hurts your credibility.
aok 08.17.11	8 and 9 were definitely both pioneers in the way that they used sampling. they weren't the 1st to sample but they brought it into a certain light that hadn't been thought of before. massive attack, dj shadow, et al saw what guys like public enemy and de la soul were doing with it and took it in a different direction. unquestionably, their direction was quite different, which is why 8 and 9 should have had bigger asterisks, but they indirectly had a huge influence on trip hop.
aok 08.17.11	"DJ Shadow and seemingly all of Bristol (Massive Attack, PORTISHEAD, Tricky) played a major part in laying the foundations of the genre" you were saying?
Blaizend 08.17.11	In the list you spastic.
Deviant. 08.17.11	Did you just quote yourself???? lol "8 and 9 were definitely both pioneers in the way that they used sampling. they weren't the 1st to sample but they brought it into a certain light that hadn't been thought of before." No they weren't, and by a "new light" you mean the mainstream and that's only because more people heard them. Where do you think they got their ideas from?
thunder15 08.17.11	OH PICK ME! from the deep dark spooky underground music scene?
Deviant. 08.17.11	If you want to talk about sample based hip hop that influenced these artists where's Grandmaster Flash? Where's Double Dee and Steinski, and Prince Paul?
thunder15 08.17.11	where birth cificate where
iFghtffyrdmns 08.17.11	yeah dude, where the fuck are they man? c'mon now
ferociouslettuce 08.17.11	i guess you 'could' say all those guys paved the way for trip hop as well but the wild bunch (tricky + massive attack) spun lots of late 80s hip hop like the 3 artists i mentioned as a sound system. but more importantly, they made the idea of using sampling in music commercially viable.
ferociouslettuce 08.17.11	as little as he actually sounded like those guys, dj shadow always considered himself a hip hop artist. the hip hop scene, especially those heavy samplers, had a major influence on virtually all of the major trip hop players as little as one sounded like the other
PurpleBottle 08.17.11	Group Four is like my favorite song ever!!
Deviant. 08.17.11	Yeah, and all the ones I mentioned actually pioneered sample based music. They're the ones who paved the way, not the likes of Public Enemy
aok 08.17.11	mad respect for grandmaster flash for sure. they were the first hip hop artists to ever be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame and had a huge influence on not only public enemy but everyone in hip-hop. but his influence on trip hop is kindof like buddy holly's influence on elliott smith. i mean, it's definitely there but it's too far removed
Deviant. 08.17.11	Except everything he did is what you're claiming the likes of Public Enemey have done, by bringing sample based music into the limelight. What's the problem? Is it because PE were more recent? That's like saying that Jimi Hendrix doesn't really have an effect on guitar playing anymore, because it was so long ago and so many more links in the chain have been made. Which is retarded
aok 08.17.11	hip-hop and all kinds of electronic music have a strange crossover of influences. nosaj thing claims snoop and dre are his biggest influences. maybe personal bias towards public enemy is overshadowing his overall influence, but their ability to throw massive amounts of hype on top of what had been done before would influence the next generation of sample-based music in a way the previous generation hadn't. either way, it just made too much sense as i was trippin out to 'black steel' anyway
DocSportello 08.17.11	I dunno if PE is trip hop
Deviant. 08.17.11	"hip-hop and all kinds of electronic music have a strange crossover of influences. nosaj thing claims snoop and dre are his biggest influences." That's not surprising in the slightest "but their ability to throw massive amounts of hype on top of what had been done before would influence the next generation of sample-based music in a way the previous generation hadn't." Except they're not really influencing, they've just been influenced themselves
aok 08.17.11	they're definitely not trip hop but they were an indirect influence. edit for deviant: wow, grandmaster flash was later than i realized .. still, taking a megaphone and blaring in all directions before walking on stage spreads the message
Deviant. 08.17.11	Again, not at all
aok 08.17.11	a megaphone does not make you louder?
Emim 08.17.11	trip hop moar liek vacation hop
Deviant. 08.17.11	Well I mean, make a trip hop essentials list and put Public Enemy, De La Soul & Nas on it
Emim 08.17.11	my favorite black metal band is black sabbath
aok 08.17.11	and watch as the thread containing 10 of my favorite trip hop songs ever gets bumped over and over, as the guru of all things electronic debates the finer points of the genre? yea, my trip hop list had an extended halftime but i don't mind
Emim 08.17.11	trip hop moar liek sock hop
aok 08.17.11	do a barrel roll
Emim 08.17.11	sock hop moar liek sugar pop
aok 08.17.11	mary magdalaine. that'd be my first sin. being with this temptress everybody wants to be just like me everybody wants to be naked and famous
Trebor. 08.17.11	Press Z or R twice
aok 08.17.11	nice catch robert. good night though - i got a presentation to give on power quality meters in 7 hours. fuck the real world yo. if anyone wants to comment on any of the 13 awesome songs, which includes 10 awesome trip hop songs that would be cool
Deviant. 08.17.11	"and watch as the thread containing 10 of my favorite trip hop songs ever gets bumped over and over," "if anyone wants to comment on any of the 13 awesome songs, "
Polymath 08.17.11	Andy sup good list.
aok 08.17.11	yea, i was in a weird fuckin mood last night. sorry dev
omnipanzer 08.17.11	No Portishead (even though you mentioned them in your description) and all that Dev said makes Omni a sad Panda.
aok 08.17.11	i couldn't think of the right portishead song to put on here. also amon tobin and bonobo. essential artists, but there's no single track i feel is essential by them.
Polymath 08.17.11	Should've put Wandering Star.
aok 08.18.11	i decided on numb and glory box. considered roads but it didn't fit. you'll see soon
Valerius 10.23.11	I'm gonna go with Deviant on this one. Whodini is one of the pioneers of sampling as well. Their album Escape was one of the first to use a Synclavier System. Escape went platinum and everyone was bumping that in 1984, so sampling was already commercially viable in the early 80s.