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Storm In A Teacup
April 1st 2024


45784 Comments


... anyway ...

FrozenFirebug
April 1st 2024


859 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

"will never understand the disdain Underclass Hero gets"

It's not bad at all, just far and away the least memorable studio album, and a distinct downgrade in terms of engaging guitarwork/tone (a problem I don't feel SBM has, even though Deryck does all the work there too).

A lot of the choruses are pretty catchy in a vacuum, but everything melds together for me to where it invariably goes in one ear and out the other. Flat, with not enough juxtaposition between each song's constituent parts. Verse floats into chorus floats into verse floats into chorus without any impact because they're both occupying the same niche. No highs, no lows, nothing demands attention.

I've probably listened to it a dozen times front to back, intentionally trying to commit the songs to memory so I have more Sum 41 to enjoy, and every single time my takeaway is "yeah sounds good but it could've sounded better". I don't get that from the other albums. They all do what they set out to do.

Sowing
Moderator
April 1st 2024


43959 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I hated it when it came out but I've come around to it. There's some really good songs on it.

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
April 1st 2024


47650 Comments


ya bubs some of those b-sides are honestly so sick. shame it's so hard to find em in one place

Speak of the Devil one of their best tunes ever

Sowing
Moderator
April 1st 2024


43959 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah that one's sick. If I recall Count Your Blessings is also one of the better ones.



I initially wrote off Walking Disaster as a ripoff of Blink-182, but I still like it a lot.

Atari
Staff Reviewer
April 1st 2024


27975 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'll probs revisit Underclass Hero etc.



this album definitely got me in the mood for a proper Sum 41 binge

Flugmorph
April 1st 2024


34335 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

House of Liars goes so hard. contemplating raising my rating. such a great double album.

Sowing
Moderator
April 1st 2024


43959 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Hell yeah. This is honestly as good as most classic Sum 41 for me.

Flugmorph
April 1st 2024


34335 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

gotta check their middle era albums (and really most of their discography lul) the talk about underclass hero here aswell as some videos ive seen earlier today have gotten be interested

Kompys2000
Emeritus
April 1st 2024


9467 Comments


Underclass Hero t/t is really really bad, why they thought their angry Canadian Idiot protest song needed a chorus that goes "WE'RE DOING FINE" I will never know

Sowing
Moderator
April 1st 2024


43959 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

It sounds exactly like Fat Lip except not as fun



Full disclosure I still sorta enjoy it lol

Rastapunk
April 1st 2024


1544 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Underclass Hero t/t is really really bad, why they thought their angry Canadian Idiot protest song needed a chorus that goes "WE'RE DOING FINE" I will never know

"



The Chuck version is way better too, it was in the bonus songs.

Kompys2000
Emeritus
April 1st 2024


9467 Comments


Yeah it's a total fatlip ripoff but instead of combining rap-rock with pop-punk and giving it fun dumb lyrics about being a rebel without a cause, it combines pop punk with more pop punk and has lyrics that sound like a rebel without a cause pretending very unconvincingly to have a cause

Sowing
Moderator
April 1st 2024


43959 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Accurate lol

Kompys2000
Emeritus
April 1st 2024


9467 Comments


The video is even like the Fatlip video but worse! Where the heck is Dave, they all seemed like such pals in the all killer vids :[

BrushedRed
April 1st 2024


3562 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah this album rules. Takes me back to my skateboarding days despite the fact that they were 20 years ago. But man, what a fun listen!

FrozenFirebug
April 1st 2024


859 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

wtf i never noticed subject to change was an early version of underclass hero

holy shit

XingKing
April 1st 2024


16158 Comments


Subject to Change is 1000 times better than Underclass Hero too

Fearlessflyer1986
April 1st 2024


230 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Underclass Hero came out after Chuck, so that was a huge album to follow, along with what the band went through during it.



Underclass Hero has a few jams, but it is just highly unforgettable to me. I like they wanted to do something a bit lighter after Chuck, but I would definitely put that one near the bottom with SCB, which has more memorable songs on it imo.

Feather
April 1st 2024


10166 Comments


Just started listening to the album and I had to hop on here to say Landmines sounds like it would fit perfect on MGKs album.



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