PerpetualTragedy: My Top 5 Hardcore Bands

PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	Honorable Mentions: Paint It Black, Code Orange Kids, Ceremony (Pre-Rohnert Park), Black Flag, Gorilla Biscuits, Modern Life Is War, Defeater (Lost Ground), Ignite, Strike Anywhere, Kid Dynamite, Converge, Touche Amore.
Trebor. 07.27.12	sweet
Spec 07.27.12	Ruiner doesn't get enough love here. I Heard These Dudes Are Assholes is one of my favorite hardcore albums.
MMX 07.27.12	Was expecting this list to be complete shit, but I was pleasantly surprised
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	I totally agree, they're way underrated.
Spec 07.27.12	Never heard Prepare To Be Let Down though not sure why. Just been content with the next two.
Spec 07.27.12	Except I Heard... is way better.
KSK1 07.27.12	Good list dude. I have lots of love for 5 and 3.
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	Actually, Prepare To Be Let Down is in between I Heard These Dudes Are Assholes and Hell is Empty, I Heard These Dudes Are Assholes is just a compilation of all of their earlier stuff and a couple of demo tracks.
AdamK 07.27.12	inb4 DefcoreJr says your hardcore sucks
controlled 07.27.12	ruiner isn't that good though...
Spec 07.27.12	Yeah I know but it's so damn good.
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	I know a lot of people say that they're too similar to Witness era MLIW, but oh well.
controlled 07.27.12	they're a lil too cheesy as well
ohfoxxxycole 07.27.12	fuck i was gonna talk shit but this list is good
Trebor. 07.27.12	Oh I love the Ceremonies PACK YOUR DICK FULL OF AIDS
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	I could see that I guess.
Spec 07.27.12	Nah controlled you're thinking of Liferuiner.
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	What no love for The Effort Hep?
Spec 07.27.12	Yeah that's the bad album here.
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	I honestly don't know why I like it as much as I do, I realize that it's kinda cheesy and overly straight edge, but I listen to it at least once a week.
controlled 07.27.12	the effort should be here EDIT: I was thinking more Wartime than what you've listed
Spec 07.27.12	I could always try it again.
Trebor. 07.27.12	yeah not nearly obscure enough
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	I guess I can agree with that, I mean I do listen to a lot of "obscure" stuff, but most of that is local music as opposed to stuff that nobody has heard of. I will say though that a lot of the stuff that you put into your Fat 2012 lists is pretty sweet Hep.
Spec 07.27.12	Don't listen to hep. Blood Ill Tempered is essential.
Spec 07.27.12	I'll bet you leave your lights up year round you furry faggot. You are killing independent George.
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	Eh, regardless I don't particularly care, I've been in and out of the hardcore scene for awhile now, so I have little intention of getting into that much new stuff. I like what I like, to each their own.
intotheshit 07.27.12	Not bad. Little intention of getting into much new stuff? That "much new stuff" comprises most of your list.
PerpetualTragedy 07.27.12	Not what I meant, I mean new stuff as in stuff that I either haven't heard or stuff that is part of the bro hardcore movement that is passing through my area right now.
intotheshit 07.27.12	lol bro hardcore movement
controlled 07.27.12	also, and this is as bad as including dangers, but they're like a bagillion times better, defeater?
intotheshit 07.28.12	^Moron
PerpetualTragedy 07.28.12	I know, could probably have come up with something better to call it, essentially it's just a bunch of douchebag kids who play bad hardcore and act tough.
controlled 07.28.12	moron for me calling defeater better than dangers? do you feel like you're better now?
KSK1 07.28.12	bro hardcore = kids who wear lionheart tees and talk about how much they love Terror. There's one faggot in my area who carries a master lock tied to a hankerchief and threatens to hit people with it.
PerpetualTragedy 07.28.12	Dangers is probably one of the most eloquent hardcore out there not to mention some of the angriest, all Defeater has going for them is the fact that they do concept albums, but I'd rather listen to Rush or Coheed and Cambria for something like that. Lost Ground is on here because it was one of the albums that got me to listen to some hardcore bands that I didn't listen to before them.
PerpetualTragedy 07.28.12	@KSK1 that is exactly what I'm talking about except that most of these kids wear Terror tees and hate mosh to local bands and threaten guys who are twice their age and size. @Silent, I'd consider Brand New more post-hardcore than hardcore, but they are a great band no doubt about it.
AdamK 07.28.12	Wartime citizens by the effort is way better
intotheshit 07.28.12	"moron for me calling defeater better than dangers? do you feel like you're better now?" I'd feel better if you and most of Sputnik would stop sucking an overrated, overblown band's cock.
PerpetualTragedy 07.28.12	The two are really close for me, Made in China is probably my favorite song by them, that or To the Top, All the Way, but I feel that Iconoclasm is more a more cohesive album.
controlled 07.28.12	so because too much of a population promotes something it's deemed unworthy? hmmmmm
KSK1 07.28.12	Sputnik is basically built on the basis of sucking overrated bands cocks though.
PerpetualTragedy 07.28.12	Should have caught that, oh well.
PerpetualTragedy 07.28.12	@Sonic, not enough Rush for you?
intotheshit 07.28.12	It's overrated because idiots like you can't get past entry-level hardcore because it's "too heavy."
Spec 07.28.12	The last songs on ED&SN were too heavy for me I'll stick with Circa Survive and watch The Clevland Show.
Spec 07.28.12	But yeah that was one of the worst displays of not understanding sarcasm I have ever seen.
TheFonz123 07.30.12	well defeater make abnoxious and bad music so i see the frustration.
pmmets07 07.30.12	let's be friends
Trebor. 07.30.12	how are Defeater obnoxious, stop trying to be trendy
TheFonz123 07.30.12	they are abnoxious becuase of their lyrics and becuase they make all concept albums, and becuase of their gimmicks. they just irritate me is all. Trendy? bitch please I gave 4.5 to two linkin park albums. do you really think i care about being trendy?
WeepingBanana 07.30.12	Bane
TheFonz123 07.30.12	I like bane
EyesWideShut 07.30.12	yo Fonz whats your top 5 bands?
TheFonz123 07.30.12	that is a hard question damn....i'll think about it and get back to you
EyesWideShut 07.30.12	just make sure u dont include any.... obnoxious bands....
Trebor. 07.30.12	2 whole concept albums how gay
TheFonz123 07.30.12	well defeater would be #1 I know that right off the bat
TheFonz123 07.30.12	assuming you meant only rock music i would say: 1. Off Minor 2. Iron Maiden 3. Corrupted 4. Radiohead 5. The Cure idk the first that come to mind
TheFonz123 07.30.12	there are certain jazz/rap/classical/electronic artists that would be up there but i just listed rock oriented shit
EyesWideShut 07.30.12	that aint bad, but i was referring to Hardcore bands. if u dont dig Hardcore that much dont worry about it bro.
TheFonz123 07.30.12	i'm afraid I don't know much about hardcore, I like a lot of screamo but i guess that's different. for what it's worth the best hardcore record i've heard has been "witness" by mliw. if there's any bands that i need to know please educate me
Nikkolae 07.30.12	this needs The Suicide File, but list is good so whatevs.