Friday13th
05.24.21 | Voting ends next Monday, May 31st. |
Friday13th
05.24.21 | If you guys never heard the extra-raga version of Norwegian Wood: https://youtu.be/PuJZYI5qomk |
Pangea
05.24.21 | Oh nice! rooting for my entry obviously but 2 sounds amazing as well, excited to give it a listen |
TwigTW
05.24.21 | This week's theme is ...antlers!
edit: oh, wait, maybe those aren't antlers on the Jordsjo cover. |
Friday13th
05.24.21 | Sure looks like antlers! |
someone
05.24.21 | will listen soon |
e210013
05.24.21 | It seems to be interesting. Two Norwegian albums, one of the classic era and a modern one. I'm very curious about both. I never heard anything about Moose Loose. And Jordsjo, I only know them by name. |
Jethro42
05.24.21 | I know Nattfiolen very well. It was among the albums I was approaching for the tourney. |
zakalwe
05.24.21 | Jordsjo was a recent rec from the man Jethro which I have to say was lovely.
Let’s see what moose loose can produce |
Jethro42
05.24.21 | I was surprised you haven't chosen Jordsjo, zak! |
zakalwe
05.24.21 | Pendragon solidarity mate, once I’d hung me hat on it there was no way I could rescind the nomination. |
porcupinetheater
05.24.21 | Trve Norwegian black metal m/////// |
porcupinetheater
05.24.21 | Can't wait to rip some icy tremz |
Jethro42
05.24.21 | @ zak, I listened to a good portion of that Pendragon album, and I like what I've heard. Also, I'm glad to see Jordsjo as an entry. |
zakalwe
05.24.21 | Top man. |
Divaman
05.24.21 | Hmm. I'm not sure John Lennon really said that. But I'm excited for Round 2. I've always wanted to cruise the Norwegian fjords, so this is my chance to do it musically. |
Inoculaeted
05.24.21 | Will let the moose loose posthaste. |
Mythodea
05.24.21 | Both albums seem very promising, though I doubt I could pronounce half a word successfully |
MrSirLordGentleman
05.24.21 | So far Jordsjo sound really pretty
But Moose Loose's groove is dope |
bgillesp
05.24.21 | Looking forward to another great round |
Jethro42
05.25.21 | Jordsjo reminds me of Sinkadus, a softer version of Anglagard. There is a killer song on Nattfiolen. See by yourself. |
porcupinetheater
05.25.21 | Jethro, I checked my sources. None of those words are real. Norway is a made up place. I read about it in a book I found, Skorflagorfingarm |
Jethro42
05.25.21 | Also, it exists a song named Nattfiolen. It's not included in the album because of a lack of space for the vinyls. I think one must consider that song. |
Divaman
05.25.21 | A moose once but my sister. |
Jethro42
05.25.21 | Amen, porcupine. |
Inoculaeted
05.25.21 | I never heard the s/t track before! |
Divaman
05.25.21 | Um, I meant "bit". Goshdarned typos. |
porcupinetheater
05.25.21 | Does she walk out and start farting in the middle of the highway every time there's a full moon? |
Jethro42
05.25.21 | Inoculaeted; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJM6gUK6g14 |
Divaman
05.25.21 | No realli! She was Karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end
of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an
Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian movies: "The Hot Hands of an Oslo
Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink"...
Mynd you, moose bites Kan be pretti nasti... |
porcupinetheater
05.25.21 | Lol holi shit Deiva, I bet with all that skyld würk they can affjord a good lyf |
MiloRuggles
05.25.21 | subscribing
>Does she walk out and start farting in the middle of the highway every time there's a full moon?
i refuse to read back for context
christ, just read diva's comment too. i'm spooked |
SharkTooth
05.25.21 | Starting the first album and WHOA this shit's FUNKY
okay that first track felt like an instrumental improv session, didn't particularly go anywhere, 3-3.5/5 |
porcupinetheater
05.25.21 | Moose Loose - Groovy good time, many notes but also kind of one note. Closer switches it up real nice tho and is my hard fave. This is like a poster child for the 3.5 rating |
Divaman
05.25.21 | Hmm, I see this Jordsjo band has a new album out this year. |
e210013
05.25.21 | After a debut audition of both albums I became to have a clear preference. But, I'll see it with the next auditions. |
TheIntruder
05.25.21 | Interesting stuff but very different. But another nice journey. |
Inoculaeted
05.25.21 | @Jethro That extra demo track is rad! I can kind of understand why it didn’t make the cut as it had a bit of rawness compared to what is on the album. It’s a fun listen though. |
e210013
05.25.21 | The extra track is absolutely amazing. It must be listened too. Maybe it can't be part of a vinyl version, but definetelly it should be part of any CD version. This is an amazing suite very close to Anglagard's music.
Thanks for call our attention to it, Jethro. |
e210013
05.25.21 | After a second listening of both albums, my favoritism for one of them has been accentuated. Anyway, I'm going to dig them a bit more in the next days to full appreciate them. |
Inoculaeted
05.25.21 | I just went through Moose Loose for the first time yesterday. A pretty dense trip for such a relatively short album. It's probably more of a jazz frenzy than I'm used to hearing, so I'll need at least a few more listens to properly "feel it". The playing is spectacular without a doubt though. |
Jethro42
05.25.21 | I wish the Nattfiolen suite was a part of the album. It would have given more tonus to it. I gave another listen to the album, and I almost regret not taking it with me.
@e21, yes, band has an Anglagard vibe. I think I talked to you about Jordsjo lately. |
e210013
05.25.21 | Yeah, I remember that. And I think the same. It was almost criminal not include it on the album. |
Divaman
05.25.21 | I have a pretty clear preference after first listen. |
Jethro42
05.25.21 | Same here, Diva and e21. |
Zig
05.26.21 | well, Moose Loose sounds a lot like Mahavishnu Orchestra. I have enjoyed it, the playing is great, although nothing special, but it misses some memorable moments. Kinda feels too restrained to the Mahavishnu sound, idk. (3.0)
and about Jordsjo: really liked the music overall, it may sound too nostagic at times, but its great. The instrumental parts are very good, the vocals are nice. I feel this record to be more complete than Moose Loose. (3.5-4)
my vote goes to Jordsjo |
Mythodea
05.26.21 | I just gave a listen to both of them, and it's a clear win for me, although I am morally obliged to revisit some times before I give my final verdict.
What makes a huge difference to me is NOT the quality of each album, but that I *personally* don't find interest in one of the sub-genres here, so that really seals the deal.... |
bgillesp
05.26.21 | Moose loose is some good but pretty standard feeling jazz fusion. Jordsjo is pretty simple feeling as well, but that is where it’s charm lies for me. While none of the players did anything that stood out to me as exceptional, I still enjoyed the entire runtime of the album in a nice relaxing way. For me, Moose Loose is a low 4, Jordsjo is a low-mid range 4. My vote is for Jordsjo |
Inoculaeted
05.26.21 | Love the stereo effect on the keys in Skakke-Jens. At like 2:50 the moose got real loose bouncing that sound left and right and it’s trippy af. This will be a go-to jazz-fusion album for me when I need a kind of non-descript jam out to wash over me in the background. It’s not really my cup of tea in terms of prog things I like to deeply analyze though. I’ll be voting for Jordsjo this round, not surprisingly. |
Jethro42
05.26.21 | Jordsjo is a mix of cold and warm, suspense and laid back, folk and symphonic counterparts with a good varieties of keyboards, organ and mellotron included. It interplays very well with electric guitar and flute. Band reminds me of Sinkadus, kind of a softer Anglagard, and so it's right up my alley. This album was a contender to be chosen by me as an entry for this tourney.
At first glance, I haven't noticed some similitudes between Mahavishnu Orchestra and Moose Loose, but the latter is less deep and is more jam oriented like some good old jazz rock. I wouldn't mind if there were more progressive rock to the mix like the third track for instance. Moose Loose is not bad, but it pales in comparison with Jordsjo. Clearly Jordsjo for me. |
Jethro42
05.26.21 | I hear Jan Hammer on Moose Loose, so yeah, the Mahavishnu Orchestra reference is legit. |
Friday13th
05.26.21 | 0-4
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro |
SharkTooth
05.27.21 | I vote 2, 1 tends to get repetitive and drag in tracks, but has great instrumentation
2 has a lot more going on melodically and that makes me a happy camper |
Jethro42
05.27.21 | I came to dig a big part of Moose Loose save the funky ones, tracks 1 and 4. Edit; 4 is a grower. Album is mostly jazz rock/jam rock. It would be a win contender in that category. That jazz is also good driving music. But into a prog context, there is few prog to be found there. On the other hand, track 3 is my favourite, followed by track 2. |
Divaman
05.27.21 | Hey guys. As we make our way through this second matchup, I thought it might be fun to make a list highlighting the history of Friday's Prog Tournament.
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?listid=196443 |
Mythodea
05.27.21 | cool thing Diva |
Divaman
05.27.21 | Thank you sir. |
e210013
05.27.21 | After 4 auditions of both albums:
Loose Moose - Elger Er Los:
This is a better album than I thought after the first listenings. It was a grower on me. It's a very diversified album, in the style, with excellent musicians. The influences felt are mainly of Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return To Forever, but I could also feel some of Brand X and, of course, of Bill Bruford. The best tracks are the 2 and 3. The 2 is simply amazing. Track 1 is a great jam. The weakest track is the 4 and the final track is simply beautiful, the most beautiful of all.
Jordsjo - Nattfiolen:
"Jordsjo" confirms what I suspected. This is an album with an amazing musicanship. It shows what a modern symphonic prog album must be. It mixes the best of the tradidion of the symphonic prog music with a modern and own way, coupled with the traditional and beautiful Nordic melancholy. This is all blended in the correct doses. This is an album without weak points with clear reminiscences of Anglagard. It's a shame the title track masterpiece suite haven't been included. I suspect this will be one of my fave albums of this tournament.
"Loose Moose" rated with 4.0.
"Jordsjo" rated with 4.5.
So, "Jordsjo". |
Friday13th
05.27.21 | 0-6
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro
Sharktooth
e21 |
Inoculaeted
05.27.21 | Really wish I could track down a vinyl copy of Nattfiolen that wouldn't cost a fortune to ship from Norway. I only see a couple available on discogs. |
Jethro42
05.27.21 | I'm starting to regret for I let that entry go. I had to toss a coin for Nattffiolen or Pig Views. |
Friday13th
05.27.21 | Not much to add to the comments on the albums so far. 1 is jazz fusion with some good variety, some funk, some nice piano stuff.
2 reminds me of Anglagard as well. I'm not sure about too much Jethro Tull influence. If we are comparing to an old prog band, it's more soft and moody like Moonmadness Camel. |
Divaman
05.27.21 | I want to give them both one more listen before I vote. |
Divaman
05.27.21 | >I'm not sure about too much Jethro Tull influence.
Yeah, I was thinking that too, Friday. I'm definitely enjoying the Nordsjo, but so far, I haven't really heard much in the way of Tull influence either. |
Pangea
05.27.21 | while it doesn't look my entry is going to win, i'm glad that you all are enjoying it.
listened to Jordsjo, it's a super lovely album. It had great interplay of flute & organ. Really enjoyed the vocals too. My vote is still going to moose loose, but i can definitely tell why Jordsjo is getting so much love. |
Inoculaeted
05.27.21 | I only mentioned Tull in the description because of the flute, but yeah early Camel vibes are the hook for me.
Moose Loose is rad. It jams out really fuckin hard and that normally isn't my kind of thing, but it's concise enough not to become overbearing. We're only two rounds in and I've already picked up a bunch of treasures. |
wham49
05.27.21 | I 'll take moose loose, you guys know I dig the jazz fusion and the jamming |
Friday13th
05.27.21 | 2-7
Pangea
wham
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro
Sharktooth
e21
normaloctagon |
someone
05.27.21 | i like the 70s porn mojo going on on that Moose Goose Juice Fuse Truce album, but Jordrojodjojrdjordojdros is so lovely to listen, my vote has to go for that album
vote for Nattfiolen |
MrSirLordGentleman
05.28.21 | Moose Loose has a funky jam-like sound that I really dig with some awesome instrumentation, specially from the keys. It has more personality imo than Jordsjo. But even if I'm a sucker for groovy rhythms, most of the time Moose Loose ends up feeling a little bit monotonous or repetitive with no real moments that stuck on me
Jordsjo is way more "standard prog". It's not really original in its sound and lacks personality even though it is certainly a really well made prog album. However, there are many moments throughout the album which are way more than just "well made" and feel like true top notch prog moments that stuck in my head and make me want to make of it a regular album to listen to
So my vote goes to Jordsjo. A more standard album, but its highs are really high. I would've voted for Moose Loose if they managed to make more interesting the groovy vibe |
Jethro42
05.28.21 | I agree with you SirLord about the lovely keys for Moose Loose.
''Solens'' is in my top 3 prog songs since Jordsjo's album release (2019). |
Friday13th
05.28.21 | 2-9
Pangea
wham
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro
Sharktooth
e21
normaloctagon
someone
Gentleman |
Divaman
05.28.21 | Hey Friday, I posted this the other day in the casual conversation list. But I know you don't read that one, so I'm reposting it here because I thought it would amuse you. My dream description is 100% true.
"I blame Friday and the prog contest for this one. I dreamed that for some reason I had allowed myself to get conned into playing a live 5-song set where I would sing and play guitar. I think I was supposed to have a backing band at first, but somehow they all dropped out, so it was going to be a solo set. Now this wouldn't be a problem except that I play guitar like a particularly uncoordinated 12-year-old who's just had his second lesson. My first song was supposed to be 'Norwegian Wood' (That's the part that's Friday's fault). And I'm looking at a list of chords for the song, and asking myself, 'What the **** is a U chord?'
"Happily, shortly before I was supposed to go on, something woke me up enough to remember that I was actually dreaming, and I didn't have to play ****. So it all worked out in the end." |
Divaman
05.28.21 | OK, I'm ready to vote. Given my previously stated preferences and tastes, this one won't be a shock to anyone.
The Moose Loose album is an all instrumental album, which is always a challenge for my teeny tiny attention span. (Yeah, I know, I rec'd an instrumental album last time, what's your point? That was German synthesizer music, a totally different animal.) It's also a jazz album, much more jazzy than it is proggy (to my ears, anyway). Having said that, the playing on the LP is really hot at times, and quite beautiful at others. But it's still outside of my usual taste zone.
The Jordsjo is more to my liking. It's a more traditional prog album (at least the way I define prog), with lots of flute, keyboards, soft guitars, etc. I wouldn't necessarily say the vocalist is a standout, but he's pretty good, more than acceptable.
Stylistically, the Jordsjo LP had a huge advantage for me over the Moose Loose LP going in. I vote for Jordsjo. |
e210013
05.28.21 | About the Jethro Tull influences, I also don't feel them. I think that is due to the flute work. But, who are used to Anglagard feels that the flute influences come directly from the playing of their flutist Anna Holmgren. |
zakalwe
05.28.21 | Jordsjo is certainly a lot more subtle than the moose but I’m going to go with moose. |
TheIntruder
05.28.21 | I agree Elgen Er Los is a great album, a grower and is very well performed. Nattfiolen is an amazing album in the best tradition with a modern approach. Anyway I am going with the album of Jordsjo. It is more akin with my taste. So, nothing new with my decision. I think my decision it is the final word on this round. |
e210013
05.28.21 | Yeah, it seems to be. If I'm not wrong, we have 3-11. |
Jethro42
05.28.21 | If it was a jazz tourney, Moose Loose would be a good candidate to win. |
e210013
05.28.21 | Even if it was with another opponent, who knows? But, this opponent is too strong for it, really. |
SharkTooth
05.28.21 | We could use a jazz tourney, fuggit I have free time this summer, if you guys are game I'll do a jazz tourney |
Friday13th
05.28.21 | Jazz tourney sounds great. There is more variety to jazz than people give it credit. Vocal jazz, big band, bebop, post bop, third stream, avant garde, free jazz...It is a genre where I am familiar with big names and that’s about it, but I could probably surprise people with one or two good picks. |
Friday13th
05.28.21 | @Divaman lol that’s awesome. |
Friday13th
05.28.21 | 3-11
Pangea
wham
zakalwe
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro
Sharktooth
e21
normaloctagon
someone
Gentleman
Divaman
Intruder |
Jethro42
05.28.21 | You pretty much nailed the jazz forms Friday. I love electric jazz (or jazz fusion), some traditional jazz, free jazz when not too weird...I'd say jazz in general, but I'd have hard time to pick up an entry. |
Mythodea
05.28.21 | I'm really struggling with these two. At first I was like ''Hmmm, I don't dig instrumental albums, so this is going to be easy'', but damn, are Moose Loose a great band. They've managed to keep my attention while I'm not that much into jazz even! Nattfiolen is a great album, but I'm a bit bummed out this came just 2 years ago. Retro acts can be entertaining (see Beardfish), but I don't think they're AS good as to justify this complete nostalgia trip. Still, they have an awesome bassist, some killer moments and brooding vocal lines that kiss you softly on the cheek, so I'll be damned I have no clue which one to pick. I guess I'm using every bit of the time to decide. |
TwigTW
05.28.21 | I love how funky Moose Loose is, but Jordsjo's mood and atmosphere are perfect for me. It's Hard to say which I like better. This is going to be a tough round for me. |
Inoculaeted
05.28.21 | @ Mythodea
“I'm a bit bummed out this came just 2 years ago”
Bummed? Really? I get that it leans heavily on its influences and the vibe of it is retro, but if it’s a good album to listen to does it really matter when it came out? I’m all for knocking things down when they blatantly plagiarize but to characterize your reaction to the release date as “bummed” really throws me for a loop.
|
Friday13th
05.28.21 | I get it. I don't discount music just because it is derivative, but by the same coin I am excited to find something "ahead of its time" even if I have already heard similar stuff released later, it can be a "bummer" when you hear a good album but realize it would have to be released like 40 years ago before it could be considered cutting edge. |
Inoculaeted
05.28.21 | It is a prog tourney, so I understand the fervent desire to find the cutting edge. I share your enthusiasm for that Friday. I just generally don't need or require an album to be cutting edge to enjoy it. If it's good it's good. Sometimes enjoying art is just that, and not a dutiful study session for history class. |
MrSirLordGentleman
05.28.21 | " I just generally don't need or require an album to be cutting edge to enjoy it"
Originality is like a "plus" for me. If it is there, then that's great, but an album can certainly be a classic without it. I also think that originality is not necessarily good (not everything that's new will be good), but I can at least appreciate the effort of trying something different everytime I listen to some new ideas
That being said, while this is a prog contest and I can see why people prefer Jordsjo of Moose Loose, I also think people might be voting against Moose Loose just because of the genre. It certainly is heavily influenced by jazz (unlike Jordsjo which is 100% standard prog), but it can still labeled as prog imo. It seems to me as if some people are voting against Moose Loose just because it isn't "prog enough" rather than just Jordsjo being better |
e210013
05.28.21 | A great album for me doesn't necessarily mean to be very original or very innovative. It means that it only must be great to me. But, if it can have some originality, better. Of course I prefere some styles to others. My favourite prog style is symphonic prog. And I like lengthy suites or even concept albums with recorrent themes all over the album. I have no problems with huge albums. Besides, I think all about prog was invented in the 70's. Even the seeds of what would be called progressive metal, were sown then. |
Divaman
05.28.21 | I just vote for the one that I like better. |
Jethro42
05.28.21 | It's cool to share different point of views for the kind of music that quite requires an open mind. Progressive rock contains so much branches, we can find for every taste, and there is a paradox; the more it's demanding and complex, the more huge audience we get. The more simple, easier and laid back it is, the less interesting and the most negatively critiqued it is.
I'm hard to please when it comes to prog. Now that I listen to less and less to classic prog, modern prog is my music of predilection, especially when it has retro, vintage soundings, and the selection of keyboards and synths are important. I love modern because it flirts with plenty of rock styles and more, from classical to hard rock to metal. Possibilities are wide open. Just like the progheads minds. Wide open minds. Keep coming the odd time signatures the weird arrangements or the bombasts. P/
|
Mythodea
05.29.21 | @Inoculated
Why the tantrum? I said I'm a bit bummed it came out two years ago and then went on to explain myself> ''Retro acts can be entertaining (see Beardfish), *but I don't think they're AS good as to justify this complete nostalgia trip*''. I say so much about Nattfiolen and the only negative thing I find is that in all its beauty, it offers nothing I haven't listened to before. They stick to the formula perfectly, but genre-innovation aside, I don't feel like they have personality. Is that TOO MUCH when describing a retro act?
But you go on painting a ''dutiful study session for history class'' picture of me, like that's ANYWHERE near to what I said. And the absurd thing is that I find the album so good that I really can't decide! |
Inoculaeted
05.29.21 | No tantrum. Tantra* |
Inoculaeted
05.29.21 | I just think it’s a beautiful album and I’m trying to understand in what way it bums you out. I think your point is that they don’t “earn” the right to rip off their influences because they don’t bring anything new to the table. That’s how I interpreted “I don't think they're AS good as to justify this complete nostalgia trip”. Please correct me if I don’t have that right. If that’s what you meant then I feel like you’re knocking the album for being a new album that exists in an old genre, and I’m not in agreement with that. Sorry if I came across strong, wasn’t my intention. I think it’s an interesting conversation, the perception of originality and its effect on the listening experience. |
Mythodea
05.29.21 | No you're not wrong. There *is* merit in here, however it still feels by the numbers.
In an imaginary scenario, the band got together in a room, pondered about the quintessence of progressive rock and then proceeded to recreate it in all its glory. I would be fine with that, had they added some more memorable ideas or did it in their own unique way. I appreciate Beardfish for adding their own touch, and I could add Steven Wilson's Raven or Opeth's Heritage as albums that wear their influences to their sleeves, yet carry their own identity (to my ears, at least).
Would I treat Nattfiolen differently if it came 50 years ago? I probably wouldn't filter it through this lens, and would choose it over ''Elgen Er Los'' simply on the basis that instrumental jazz prog isn't really my thing. Again, if I found it more enjoyable or I was moved by the compositions, probably the emotional attachment would let me overlook my criticism, but since it hasn't yet (I can't deny it might in the future), I can't turn a blind eye.
I hope this covers my train of thought. You did come off as aggressive, but I found funny your Tantra comment, so I forgive you. Friends again.... |
Inoculaeted
05.30.21 | If Nattfiolen came out 50 years ago it’d be a fuckin bone fide classic! Thanks for the clarification btw. I understand your point, but I do think Jordsjo has an identity despite the heavy influence. Friends! |
e210013
05.30.21 | I completely agree with you Inoculaeted. I even think "Nattfiolen" has more identity than "Elgen Er Los", despite "Elgen Er Los" be an album of the classic era. I can see much more influences of many other bands of the classic era on it than we can feel on "Nattfiolen". In reality I can only see a clear influence on "Nattfiolen", which is of Anglagard. And for those who know Anglagard very welll, and I can say this is my case, Anglagard is a true original band despite only born in the 90's. So, to have been born in the 70's, isn't necessarily a condition to be a band more original and pure on its music than a band that appeared much latter. For instance, despite there aren't really anything new under the sun, the Italian prog bands are, in this moment, in the vanguard of the prog world. If you have any doubt, you can check an amount of those bands and albums in these last years. We need to be honest. Prog is still alive and kicking, especially and mostly, thanks God, due to the Italian and Nordic prog bands in our days. Many of the others, simply follow a winner formula, despite be good in same cases, as unfortunatelly happens with many of the last Dream Theather works. And this is only a merely example. And I really love Dream Theater. This is what I think. And as Genesis said: "I know What I like And I Like What I Know". |
Jethro42
05.30.21 | I was to pick up Nattfiolen by a hair, as an entry. Not long ago I talked to you e21 about that album/band. I was sure you would like that music because of Anglagard and Sinkadus similarities. It's drew with dark atmospheres all the same, with an enthusiastic touch, and same instrumentation as well.
And it's a good thing you promote Italian prog bands. Their music captures the essence of classic prog bands with their own mediterranean flavour. 3/4 of the prog I'm listening to is Italian stuff. And yes, prog is alive and kicking thanks to them. |
e210013
05.30.21 | It's the same with me Jethro. I think they're that mostly incarnate the good old spirit of prog nowadays, beside some Nordic bands, as I mentioned. Besides, I think they always did that. We can see it in the so many Italian 70's classic prog albums. |
Inoculaeted
05.30.21 | I'm going to have to track down some Anglagard. |
Jethro42
05.30.21 | Hybris is their masterpiece, more ''rough'', darker and colder, but Viljans Oga is pretty much in the same vein as Jordsjo, with classical vibes at places. |
e210013
05.30.21 | I agree. But I need to join them the other one, "Epilog". For me, the three are all masterpieces. But I confess that "Hybris" is the masterpiece of the masterpieces. |
farmerobama
05.30.21 | Both really fun albums, but my vote has to go to Jordsjo, mesmerizing stuff. |
TwigTW
05.31.21 | Both of these are great albums... I love the funkiness of Moose Loose, and the crisp production. I don't really notice the difference between one song and another, but that's not a bad thing for me. It's an enjoyable jam from start to finish. I like the way everyone handles their instrument, and I bet they're great live. I would go to see them.
On the other hand, Jordsjo is a smoother and more atmospheric band. This album sounds like the mountains, streams, and pastures of Norway. I really love the pastoral atmosphere. And while it is reminiscent of Jethro Tull, I don't find it to be derivative. The band has it's own distinct sound. The atmosphere carries me away, but the instruments always hold my interest ...and for that beautiful combination, my vote goes to Jordsjo. |
Mythodea
05.31.21 | Ok, so, after deliberate thought, I'm thinking I should vote for Nattfiolen. The thoughts I expressed still hold true, but I realize that, all things being equal, Nattfiolen is still an album I would enjoy far more with repeated listens. Elgen Er Los is highly entertaining, but I don't see myself really going back to it, even with the great impression it has left me.
So, yes, Elgen Er Los (3.5) is a great opponent, but I think Nattfiolen is going to stay with me a lot more (4) |
MiloRuggles
05.31.21 | hey ho, comin in supa late as seems to be my inaugural prog tourney tradition
I'm gonna have to buck the trend here and vote for Moose Loose. While the album lacks a touch of identity (and a cathartic closer) is just has some of that pure, raw prog juice runnin cold through its veins.
This juice on its own may not have cut the mustard against a different opponent, but I have one of those strange, nearly inexplicable fundamental problems with Jordsjo. I'll readily admit that they're a great band, that there are some really sweet songs on the album, and that I almost flipped my vote to this album based on Septemberbal alone, but my main problem here is one of context. I feel that there is next to no need for an album that sounds like this to be released in 2019. It's almost like I've come to understand why so many people dislike Steven Wilson's Raven... even if I'll never agree with them.
Great round team, both albums were fun stuff
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MiloRuggles
05.31.21 | lolol scrolling up it looks like I just added fuel to a particular fire. It's all love and Jordsjo are good and everybody is correct and beautiful |
Mythodea
05.31.21 | ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍 |
Friday13th
05.31.21 | 4-12
Pangea
wham
zakalwe
Milo
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro
Sharktooth
e21
normaloctagon
someone
Gentleman
Divaman
Mythodea |
e210013
05.31.21 | No problems, Milo. You didn't add any fuel to any particular fire, because there is none. Above all, we are talking about music. And, as we know, music is a very personal taste, especially when we are talking about great music. And, fortunately, we all were faced with two great albums. So, there isn't any problem, really. Besides, it's nice to have some votes on Moose Loose's album, because it's a great album. The only problem, for me, is that the album of Jordsjo was too strong for it. Cheers buddy. |
Inoculaeted
05.31.21 | Damnit Ruggles. |
e210013
05.31.21 | Friday, if it's possible, we want to know the two next contenders, since the winner is clear. Don't forget, pal, that some of us live in Europe. And in my case, we has the same time of UK, which means that is almost 15.00 PM. |
Mythodea
05.31.21 | here, it's already 17:00 |
e210013
05.31.21 | Yeah, it's true. I completely forgot that in Greece you have two hours of difference from Uk, Ireland and Portugal. |
Mythodea
05.31.21 | It's weird how time zones work. Some countries have an hour difference and can be on the same meridian. UK is above Spain and France, yet they are an hour apart |
someone
05.31.21 | it's still morning in the US, maybe Friday's from there |
e210013
05.31.21 | Yeah, you're right. Some years ago we had the same time of Spain, France, and so on. However, in the Summer it was very strange because at 9:00 PM we still had the sun shining. So, It was very hard to convince the kids go to to bed. Then, the governement decided to back to the previous time, the same TMG of UK. But what still remains very strange it that we are in the same meridian of Galiza, a region of the western north of Spain, and that they have an hour of difference from us. |
e210013
05.31.21 | Yeah, you're right someone. In US is even stranger. It has different TMG times all over the country. |
Jethro42
05.31.21 | Yes Friday, bring us the two other contestants please :) |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | Time zones were invented so Santa can get to all the children’s houses in time on Christmas Eve |
Mythodea
05.31.21 | *mind blown* |
e210013
05.31.21 | Absolutely and without doubt. |
Jethro42
05.31.21 | Santa Claus superstar! |
Jethro42
05.31.21 | I've already listened to a couple entries to come, and I can assure you the tournament is not over. |
wham49
05.31.21 | I think moving forward we should judge every album on its quality not if we personally deem it “proggy” enough, if Friday deems it worthy we should all accept that, I voted that way in round 1 and after changed my thinking on it. |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | I'm creating charts on graph paper calculating the (total number of notes*number of mellotron tracks)/(total seconds with vocals)
Whichever comes out higher, that's my vote. Prog 101, babyyy |
MrSirLordGentleman
05.31.21 | "I think moving forward we should judge every album on its quality not if we personally deem it “proggy” enough"
this |
Divaman
05.31.21 | This is sort of how I do it. (I really vote based on the album I like better, so theoretically, it's possible for me to decide that I think one album might be superior, but screw 'em because I like the other one better.)
But having said that, I think everybody has to vote by their own standards. (And if that involves higher math, like the method porc suggested, so be it.) :) |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | Always get high before you do math, it's how I survived uni
[: |
Divaman
05.31.21 | Probably wise. |
MrSirLordGentleman
05.31.21 | "Always get high before you do math, it's how I survived uni"
Or study humanities and get rid of math in your life like a boss |
Mythodea
05.31.21 | ^ Ι feel represented |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | Is "study humanities" a synonym for "people watching" ? |
MiloRuggles
05.31.21 | Marijuana is (in)directly responsible for the 3 As I ever got in uni essays
I'm personally voting for whichever album has better indie cred |
MrSirLordGentleman
05.31.21 | "Is "study humanities" a synonym for "people watching" ?"
"The humanities include the study of ancient and modern languages, literature, philosophy, history, archaeology, anthropology, human geography, law, politics, religion, and art."
Actually I think human geography might fit into what you're saying |
Inoculaeted
05.31.21 | (total number of notes*number of mellotron tracks)/(total seconds with vocals)
Not shown - A way to divide by zero. Moose Loose wins with a score of UNDEFINED |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | Moose Loose is DISQUALIFIED and also THE WINNER OF THE TOURNEY |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | "Marijuana is (in)directly responsible for the 3 As I ever got in uni essays"
Was one of those your Today is the Day review? That's an A and change if ever I saw one |
MiloRuggles
05.31.21 | That was an excerpt from my PhD thesis. There's 35,000 more words where that came from.
So porc's a STEM kid, huh? What's it like having a career? |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | Fuckin' FOOLED YA
English/Film double major, zero money, less prospects, and a totally unfounded ego |
MiloRuggles
05.31.21 | Fuckin rusemaster plus over here. Heyo, I doubled up on Media & Comms + Cinema (purely theory, no practical, what the fuck was I thinking) so I feel ya |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | Hey, we ain’t in this for the money. We in this to talk about how fuckin’ breathtaking it is the way Bresson uses images of hands |
MiloRuggles
05.31.21 | Straight up seen no Bresson. Which of his works is his handsiest? |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | Ooh Pickpocket is (perhaps expectedly) handsy as fuck. Opening shots of that and L’Argent are both straight up hand ballets |
porcupinetheater
05.31.21 | A'ight, Moose Loose got that groove that really niftily evolves into something a little more introspective as it goes, very much consistent good, not much super songwriting wow
Jordsjo sometimes very safe in the pastoral folky prog thing, but also sometimes busts out trading instrumental runs that pack a way bigger wallop than that sort of thing often does because the writing feels like it takes precedence over the playing. And fuck, the bass is tasty af the whole way through. Bass pushes it over the top. GeorgeJoe gets the vote for me |
Friday13th
06.01.21 | 4-13
Pangea
wham
zakalwe
Milo
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro
Sharktooth
e21
normaloctagon
someone
Gentleman
Divaman
Mythodea
Twig
porcupine |
Friday13th
06.01.21 | Okay, so I vote for Jordsjo since I’m a sucker for the style and it is well done. Moose Loose was good though.
That means it’s 4 to 14 and Jordsjo wins handily. Voting is closed and I’ll put up the new match in a few minutes. |
SharkTooth
06.01.21 | sweet |
MrSirLordGentleman
06.01.21 | Just noticed that Shark didn't vote for the funky pick. Now that's new |
SharkTooth
06.01.21 | Most funk doesn't do it for me these days, I'm much pickier when it comes to the genre than I used to be |
MrSirLordGentleman
06.01.21 | you may be losing the gr00ve bro |
SharkTooth
06.01.21 | oh noooo000000😱 |
Friday13th
06.04.21 | I didn’t mean to leave farmerobama out, but I missed his vote. The final tally was as follows:
4-15
Pangea
wham
zakalwe
Milo
Zig
bgillesp
Inoculaeted
Jethro
Sharktooth
e21
normaloctagon
someone
Gentleman
Divaman
Mythodea
Twig
porcupine
farmerobama
Friday
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Divaman
06.04.21 | I actually just picked up the new Jordsjo LP a few days ago. I've only given it the one listen so far, but again, pretty good. |