BigTuna
11.11.09 | It means listen to it, because it's probably good. |
cirq
11.11.09 | /thread |
Eclectic
11.11.09 | As far as I can gather its what has come out of the genre after its add its golden age.
Like post-grunge is the grunge music that has come after grunge became popular. |
AnotherBrick
11.11.09 | ya i dont understand it either...i love post-rock but thats about all from the "post" genre and btw...666 comments...ahhhhhh! |
rasputin
11.11.09 | post means after. as in the opposite to pre- |
Jesuslaves
11.11.09 | I think it means something like... I'll use hardcore as an example: Basically using hardcore instrumentation and/or vocals for un-hardcore-like arrangements, or something to that effect. My best guess. |
liledman
11.11.09 | what rasputin said. its a continuation, expansion or elaboration on the ideas of the un-prefixed genre. |
qwe3
11.11.09 | as I understand it, post-rock is a kind of rock music that comes after rock music as we see it today. post-metal is just heavy post-rock (sometimes with growled vocals) |
AnotherBrick
11.11.09 | saying it as after makes it seem like that rock is gone |
DBlitz
11.11.09 | means ur dum |
rasputin
11.11.09 | no, it just means that it's a new style that has evolved from rock. it's the style that has come 'after' rock. hence, post-rock. it's not that hard. |
AnotherBrick
11.11.09 | hmm i guess that makes sense lol |
rasputin
11.11.09 | yeah, it doesn't imply that it replaces rock, just takes its foundations and creates something else |
TRMshadow
11.11.09 | This is what I'm talking about, everybody has their own opinion. Of course post- means after but I didn't understand anything after that. There are bands making post-rock and post-hardcore but there are still bands making regular rock and regular hardcore. It was all just very confusing to me. |
feav233
11.11.09 | after the metal, after the rock, after the hardcore |
rasputin
11.11.09 | what is there to be confused about
it's just an evolution of style, there is no necessity for post-rock to replace rock as it is |
NigelH
11.11.09 | I think the world is ready for post-rap. |
AnotherBrick
11.11.09 | apparently simon reynolds coined the term in his review of Bark Psychosis' album Hex...he described it as using rock instrumentation for non-rock purposes, using guitars as facilitators of timbre and textures rather than riffs and power chords
gotta love Wikipedia lol |
feav233
11.11.09 | lol post-rap, but why not |
AnotherBrick
11.11.09 | dont forget post-country |
qwe3
11.11.09 | yeah i wrote a paper on reynold's take on post-rock. pretty interesting stuff, that. it's such a general term though |
Prophet178
11.11.09 | Its when a band takes ideas from a genre but do it in an atypical way. |
qwe3
11.11.09 | "no, it just means that it's a new style that has evolved from rock. it's the style that has come 'after' rock. hence, post-rock. it's not that hard."
basically this
with this
"post-rock is a kind of rock music that comes after rock music as we see it today. "
and this
"using rock instrumentation for non-rock purposes, using guitars as facilitators of timbre and textures "
left out the part about power chords because it's dumb |
BenX02
11.11.09 | I did a whole essay on this for school. Contrary to popular beleife, the post- prefix does not mean "after".
Here's part of it, and it does not really answer your question though:
Post-Rock is a sub-genre of Alternative Rock that first showed up roughly in the late 1970s. Post-Rock is contains characteristics from a very wide variety of musical genres, including ambient, jazz, electronica, and experimental, and progressive. Like progressive rock, post-rock does not follow basic song structures or rhythms, however, unlike progressive, post-rock is often very simple and minimalistic. The genre also uses a wide variety of instruments that are not found in standard rock, such as strings and horns. Another trait shared with progressive rock is the longer songs, spanning anywhere from three minutes to thirty or more.
The term "Post-Rock" itself supposedly originated from the critic Simon Reynolds who first used the term in his review of Bark Psychosis' album Hex which was published in the March 1994 issue of Mojo Magazine, although the term was late expanded on by other people and critics. Public Image Ltd. is arguably the first Post-Rock band, however, Post-Rock was not widely populerized until the late 80s and early 90s, with bands such as Slint and Talk Talk being very heavily influential on the genre, so much so that two specific albums, Slint's Spiderland and Talk Talk's Laughing Stock are often cited as "giving birth to Post-Rock." There are many other influential post-rock bands from the early 90s such as: Cul de Sac, Stereolab, Laika, Disco Inferno, Moonshake, Seefeel, Bark Psychosis, Mogwai, and Tortoise.
Post-rock grew even more in popularity in the late 90s and early 2000s. Bands including Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Sigur Rós, and Explosions in the Sky formed during the mid-late 90s, and bands like Yndi Halda, Caspian, God Is An Astronaut, and 65daysofstatic came about in the early 2000s. Even though Post-Rock itself is a sub-genre of alternative rock, it has still spawned sub genres of it's own, such as Post-Metal, which is post-rock with metal influences, some bands included in this genre are Isis, Pelican, Neurosis, Red Sparrows, and Giant Squid.
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deathmetal101
11.11.09 | Wow.....that was long.
i think rasputin pretty much summed it up in less than 10 words |
Aids
11.11.09 | Next time you do an essay for school, make sure you spell "belief" right. |
qwe3
11.11.09 | ben thats cool that you did that etc but no one actually read that.
i summed it up in 3 quotes from the thread pretty well |
Douchebag
11.11.09 | Lets all make Post Hair Metal bands... |
qwe3
11.11.09 | well thats because post-rock is one of the most popular genres on this site. everywhere else a lot of people talk about post punk, i've found |
Tempertemperature
11.11.09 | Its basically the modern form of whatever genre the prefix is used on. |
qwe3
11.11.09 | oh right iluvatar, yeah i get you. guess it still has to do with post rocks prominence on this site |
qwe3
11.11.09 | post-punk hasn't been a very active genre for ages as opposed to post rock |
astrel
11.11.09 | It is when you make a comment on this site. This comment is sometimes labeled as a "post." |
qwe3
11.11.09 | depends on what you call post punk/post rock origins. a lot of bands that even hint at post rock are lumped into that category hence its abundance atm |
cirq
11.11.09 | blahblahblah
/thread |
Mordecai.
11.11.09 | "post means after. as in the opposite to pre-"
i don't understand how one could not know that, but then again there are a lot of idiots around here. |
ameypv
11.11.09 | big tuna's first comment is the answer to your question |
qwe3
11.11.09 | mordecai has it |
Faint7
11.11.09 | ben your essay is almost exactly the same as the wikipedia page. just in case you didn't know |
BenX02
11.15.09 | What if I wrote the Wikipedia page? |
Faint7
11.15.09 | what if? |
BenX02
11.15.09 | I don't think I did write the page , but I don't think I intentionally rip off the Wikipedia page. I fully realize that is is very similar (that might be an understatement). I spend like three hours a day on Wikipedia (:D) so that might be why there are similarities.
This was also written about three years ago, when I didn't give a shit about school, so I can't be sure that I didn't copy certain parts and just change the wording.
But like I said I'm pretty sure I didn't intestinally copy the Wikipedia page. |
Ire
11.15.09 | post-core? |
PirateSquid
11.15.09 | 'Post-' in music basically is supposed to mean it takes the genre, but attempts to progress it in a different direction with a new genre.
Such as post-rock is similar to normal rock in the way it uses the same instruments and sometimes melodies, but it usually goes way out there in terms of different normal signatures, compositions, etc.
Post-Hardcore expands on Hardcore-Punk by trying to progress into more melodic vocals and over three heavy, angry powerchords.
Post-Metal is similar to Post-Rock, 'cept with Metal.
'nuff said, dawg.
Out. |
Aids
11.16.09 | I started a post-crunk/screamo band (a la Brokencyde).
Who wants in? |
jredmond
11.24.09 | The prefix "post" can also serve as a response to the genre its attached to initially. So a post metal band, might have a 'responsive' sound which responds to the original genre (metal); this helps differentiate between post metal and progressive metal as well, but like most things in life, there are exceptions and overlaps...so who really cares? |
