tvol: Why America Is Doomed

geng 10.29.10	There's nothing wrong with a bit of Shakira. She's almost as good as 3 and 5.
Counterfeit 10.29.10	OMG YER SO ELITE BRO
tvol 10.29.10	random story -- while at a gas station, a 40ish year old man came flying in driving his truck blaring nickelback as loud as possible. black guy stares, then looks at me, clearly thinking "wtf is wrong with white people?" I told him I didn't understand it either. black guy nods and goes back to staring at nickelback guy.
BallsToTheWall 10.29.10	Poor dieting(McCdonalds+ and video games(lack of exercise) is the doom of America.
tvol 10.29.10	not trying to be elite... but i think even the most non-elitist among us (as if there are any on sputnik) can acknowledge that the four listed are shitty.
Toadstool 10.29.10	tvol, that gas station comment just made my day
Counterfeit 10.29.10	Some of Weezy's material is fucking ace. and if you can't shake it to Shakira yer gay
Sowing 10.29.10	this list is why america is doomed
tvol 10.29.10	among other things, yes.
McCopper 10.29.10	...and a dark wind blows...
geng 10.29.10	America is doomed because China and Brazil are going to gang up on it and steal its lunch money.
tvol 10.29.10	to be fair, it's china's lunch money. we're just borrowing it.
BallsToTheWall 10.29.10	Fat kids should be put into weight lost camps.
DiceMan 10.29.10	ignorance from the TRUTH and separation of church and state and black people and the budget deficit and healthcare for everyone and socialism and dirty mexicans and democrats and free market policies and support of abortion and gay marriage are why America is doomed are you stupid?
eternium 10.29.10	3 and 5.
JAV 10.29.10	There's nothing wrong with midget columbian hotties. At least she has some talent.
tvol 10.29.10	while shakira is fun to look at, she sings like a bleating sheep.
BallsToTheWall 10.29.10	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZuQM7K7ERc
eternium 10.29.10	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp0Bt2cbcc8 Sheep can be awesome. Okay, it's not a sheep, but it's awesome.
Apollo 10.29.10	it aint just America that's doomed, its the whole world
Foxhound 10.29.10	true dat apollo
BallsToTheWall 10.29.10	Now I have a great halloween idea. Wear a THE END IS NEAR billaboard and spout nonsensical bullshit. Have a crazy wig and devil horns too.
tvol 10.29.10	eterinium... i'm crying from laughing at that goat. great stuff.
eternium 10.29.10	Goats ftw.
Spec 10.29.10	Agreed.
Baphomet 10.29.10	I happen to be a sucker for female fronted pop. And still, I hate Shakira.
Hyperion1001 10.30.10	"Fat kids should be put into weight lost camps." No, fat kids should be should be taken to fat camps and then unknowingly turned into a new source of fuel.
DeafMetal 10.30.10	Was hoping for a doom metal list.
ShadowRemains 10.30.10	tvol u need 2 learn about shakira's ass, it'll help u with a lot of things
Dryden 10.30.10	we are doomed because of the reptilians bro
couldwinarabbit 10.30.10	4 is just as bad 5 makes up for it...almost
growl 10.30.10	THOSE GODDAMN REPTILIANS
kangaroopoo 10.30.10	2 + 5 classic also US/West will no longer be the world power in near future China/India will dominate with population + 65% GDP globally
kangaroopoo 10.30.10	US economy down the shitter whilst trillions being spent on space exploration + unwinnable wars
DeafMetal 10.30.10	Yeah our government is dumb.
Dryden 10.30.10	more people will get raped by me
kangaroopoo 10.30.10	if a lot of that was re-directed into boosting the economy and improving services and border protection, then the US would be safer and more competitive for now and the long term
eternium 10.30.10	"whilst trillions being spent on space exploration + unwinnable wars" Exaggerating, though about a trillion has been spent on Iraq and Afghanistan when combined. Fix debt = end Bush tax cuts, end wars, and cut some out of the defense budget. Once we get surpluses, use them to pay off the debt instead of giving the money back to Americans (which stupid Bush did with Clinton's surplus).
bungy 10.30.10	BAD MUSIC TASTE WILL KILL OUR FAMILIES
Foxhound 10.30.10	there will be no damination with bungy among us
eternium 10.30.10	Have fun dying then. I want a safety net and so do most people.
kangaroopoo 10.30.10	"I think I will find a good job and will be fucking asian bitches in 2012." I'd settle for that.
bungy 10.30.10	TURNED ON THE RADIO AND MY SISTER STARTED DROWNING
eternium 10.30.10	You depend on the government to keep criminals in prison. You depend on the government to make sure your food is safe to eat. You depend on the government to make sure you have roads to drive on.
bungy 10.30.10	THE TUMOR IN MY SON'S BRAIN GREW AT AN ALARMING RATE AFTER I WATCHED A SHAKIRA MUSIC VIDEO
eternium 10.30.10	Wtf? That's some retarded logic. Government makes the laws that make those things possible and then hire people to perform those jobs. The government is made up of people who work for it.
North0House 10.30.10	Urban Hyms is awesome. Isis is the best band ever... Too bad they're no more...
kangaroopoo 10.30.10	no government = anarchy = no internet = scarce music
eternium 10.30.10	andcas, I am not at all. I simply believe that social welfare is necessary.
layersmeng 10.30.10	I also depend on the government and the people within it to be fucked in the head and costing us millions.
eternium 10.30.10	Really? Because a lot of things would be a lot worse if the government didn't regulate things. Ever heard of the book "The Jungle"?
North0House 10.30.10	By the way, I'm gonna move to Newfoundland, nothing ever goes wrong in Newfoundland. Since when did you last see Newfoundland make the news? That's right, never. It's cuz nothing ever happens in Newfoundland. I'm moving to Newfoundland, where the government doesn't entirely suck...
bungy 10.30.10	You said "Newfoundland" like ten times
eternium 10.30.10	It shows what happened when the government just let the industries do whatever they wanted. It hasn't been like that since the Pure Food and Drug Act and other major regulation laws were passed.
bungy 10.30.10	Newfoundland isn't even a country wtf
eternium 10.30.10	Why so negative?
bungy 10.30.10	"the sad and funny thing is we can argue till were blue in the face and reach 10000 comments but the fact is the government and this country is fucked. its never gonna get any better. eventually its either going to crumble, will go bankrupt, a natural disaster of epic proportions will take place wiping us out, will go into a massive world war 3, ect. nothing we do or say will change anything. voting is rigged. will never stop fighting this war. the only solution will be total destruction. we had a good one. this is the beginning of the end. no one reigns forever. look at history. governments fall after years of faults that emerge." omg
bungy 10.30.10	"not negative. i'm a realist. america is pretty much a failing institution at this point and we as society and the government as one will bring on a self fulfilled prophecy of what this "christian" nation likes to call end times. : )" omg
eternium 10.30.10	andcas, you can't believe in the "end times" and call yourself a realist. Sure, the end of the world is possible, but every generation has believed that it will happen soon, even though it obviously hasn't happened. The world is no more fucked than it has ever been in the past. "Because it's true; we've become a people of entitlements, not of hard work." I know far too many people who work their asses off, yet you believe this bullshit.
eternium 10.30.10	Are you really one of those people who believe that everyone who is poor is that way because they're idiots, did something stupid, deserve to be in that condition, and/or are lazy bastards?
layersmeng 10.30.10	Government is Corporation. Corporation is raping the Earth, and in turn, each and every inhabitant. We have no future.
eternium 10.30.10	Who said I believed in karma?
eternium 10.30.10	I believe that a lot of people are poor because they got fucked over. If your parents are poor, it's getting harder and harder to not be poor yourself. If you get into an accident, you often end up in serious debt over hospital bills. Just look at the people who are losing their homes because the banks are signing paperwork that hasn't even been looked at.
North0House 10.30.10	America's screwed. And no joke, I'm an optimist.
eternium 10.30.10	What if you have been paying your bills? There's been thousands of homes that have been foreclosed when they weren't supposed to be.
pizzamachine 10.30.10	"A mortgage is a contract; if you don't pay your bills you're violating the contract" Yup.
pizzamachine 10.30.10	@ eternium: An example would be nice.
Satellite 10.30.10	it's just a typical midlife crisis: embracing the most mainstream and obvious facets of youth culture. nothing new at all.
Dryden 10.30.10	then fucking it
eternium 10.30.10	Have you not heard about the foreclosure crisis? About how pretty much all of the major banks have been approving papers without reading them at all? http://www.cnbc.com/id/39617381/A_Primer_On_The_Foreclosure_Crisis
climactic 10.30.10	lol wtf
pizzamachine 10.30.10	America is doomed because it isn't Canada. [2]
bungy 10.30.10	America is doomed because it isn't Newfoundland.
eternium 10.30.10	Sigh.. Point is that the people haven't done anything wrong, it is the banks who are doing everything wrong. Sure, a lot of people haven't been paying their bills (because they lost their fucking jobs, which likely isn't their fault either), but they shouldn't lose everything because of that. These people aren't lazy or just careless (some are, but they are a small minority). They are hard working people who have been fucked over by a system made for the sole purpose of profit.
Dryden 10.30.10	someguest is right
ShadowRemains 10.30.10	"America is doomed because it isn't Canada." pretty trve
eternium 10.30.10	Some of them HAVEN'T VIOLATED ANYTHING. Is that complicated?
climactic 10.30.10	eternium where you from?
eternium 10.30.10	Georgia.
eternium 10.30.10	"Now if you're talking exceptions again..." Tens of thousands of foreclosures have been found to have been miscued. That's a LOT of exceptions.
eternium 10.30.10	When it comes to average Americans, you exaggerate their faults. When it comes to corporations, you minimize their faults. The average American is making less money while the richest people have seen their salaries multiply. At the same time, the price of goods has climbed.
kangaroopoo 10.30.10	come to Australia instead, only 22 million people, unemployment 5.2%, and one of the few advanced economies that didn't fall into recession
eternium 10.30.10	Australia has spiders the size of basketballs.
kangaroopoo 10.30.10	Melbourne is big and doesn't have too many creepy crawlies
eternium 10.30.10	Okay, so if the corporations decide to lower wages while increasing the price of its products then it's everybody else's fault.
qwe3 10.30.10	you say this while digging 5....
eternium 10.30.10	Greed is never a good thing. It's all about profits for far too many businesses. Workers are deemed as an expense while consumers are looked at as only ways to make more money. They do their best to fuck over everyone else in order to make more money for themselves.
eternium 10.30.10	So you have no problem with the fact that income inequality has returned to 1928 levels or that wages have decreased all around except for the very rich, where it has increased fivefold.
eternium 10.30.10	Because unions aren't nearly as powerful or prevalent as they used to be. The people simply don't have the power, because complaint risks firing, which would lead to depending on the government to make a living.
Idnuf 10.30.10	"It's all about profits for far too many businesses." Welcome to capitalism.
eternium 10.30.10	Also, unbelievably high profits and income inequality levels aren't needed to get innovation. Just look at the '50s-'70s.
Apollo 10.30.10	"America is doomed because it isn't Newfoundland." my father is from Newfoundland
Idnuf 10.30.10	^Yeah, I hate that the whole American/capitalist focus on creating your own fortune and accomplishing everything by yourself limits the kind of organization we could have to protest.
eternium 10.30.10	That IS A UNION, dumbass. You can't just round up all of the people who work at Cargill and make them agree to quit their jobs. It's impossible, especially when they most likely have nowhere else to work. It's almost wage slavery.
Idnuf 10.30.10	Unions involve paperwork, rules etc. He's talking about a bunch of people giving a company the finger
eternium 10.30.10	People aren't going to just stop working when it's their only source of income.
eternium 10.30.10	I don't know how it is in Michigan, but both minimum wage and welfare are barely livable.
climactic 10.30.10	Wal-mart sux
eternium 10.30.10	Welfare should be about equal to minimum wage, maybe slightly less, imo. Did Wal-Mart raise its wages after that happen?
eternium 10.30.10	So.. then it accomplished nothing.
wyankeif1337 10.30.10	Wow, I missed out on a damn big thread.
botb 10.30.10	"america is doomed because people like music that you don't?" this explains my viewpoint.
tvol 10.30.10	remind me never to title a list that could possibly lead to what just happened here ever again
eternium 10.30.10	Why?
pizzamachine 10.30.10	Why? [2]
tvol 10.30.10	because idiots bitching about politics on he internets is gay as aids
eternium 10.30.10	You're a fucking idiot for thinking that these things don't matter.
pizzamachine 10.30.10	because "idiots" (wrong) "bitching" (wrong) about politics on "he" (wrong) "internets" (wrong) "is gay as aids" (wrong)
tvol 10.30.10	they matter. random opinions on the internet don't
eternium 10.30.10	I love marijuana and music. tvol, your entire list is a random opinion on the internet.
pizzamachine 10.30.10	"they matter. random opinions on the internet don't" So opinions matter, but if they're said on the internet they don't...
tvol 10.30.10	agreed. and it doesn't matter much
eternium 10.30.10	Your list doesn't matter because it doesn't affect people. Politics affect every single person.
tvol 10.30.10	so you spend your friday night discussing them on sputnik? there must be something better to do
Asiatic667 10.30.10	Every country is doomed in this case, because most of them have the problems (obesity, crime, poor education etc.) I live in new zealand, and despite what a lot of foreigners think, it's NOT all green valleys and sheep.
eternium 10.30.10	Says someone who is also on the internet at the same time.
tvol 10.30.10	i'm honestly shocked its taken this long for someone to comment on the facebook stalking
tvol 10.30.10	i'll be the first to admit my friday night is lame. new city, dont know many people yet, work in the morning, girlfriend sits for the cpa exam tomorrow. not a recipe for a rootin tootin time
pizzamachine 10.30.10	He rolls with the punches like they didn't happen. I respect that.
eternium 10.30.10	I'm saving up my energy for this huge local show tomorrow.
tvol 10.30.10	+1 bro acknowledged and accepted. here, have a bro yourself +1 bro
eternium 10.30.10	I'm going to go masturbate and go to bed.
tvol 10.30.10	i did my cranking earlier. like to get it out of the way early in the day