word

Spoiled, entitled, whiny fucking crybabies.

Turning down 50K from a wonderful label like Epitaph is one thing, but getting overwhelmed, and breaking your band up because you can't handle people you don't like having opinions about you is just outright asinine.

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

snide u keep triggering me man

Also, pretty damn sure that even though this band claimed to be "DIY Punk", not being able to handle other people having opinions is the complete opposite of punk. Hopefully the music community doesn't turn this into some huge social outrage.

T R I G G E R E D

Very few Punk bands ever have the bite to match their bark.

#Truggered
Very few Punk bands ever have the bite to match their bark. [2]

trash band to be completely honest. that statement is the most pussified thing i've ever read in my life

their music is solid tbh

"trash band to be completely honest. that statement is the most pussified thing i've ever read in my life"

[2]

band broke up because each member had self-diagnosed anxiety and depression

I've never jammed their music, only reason I heard about them was because of how they got big simply because they turned Epitaph's 50,000 record deal down. They had the gall to claim that Epitaph is a corrupt label, when as we speak, Epitaph has literally been covering The Ghost Inside's (not even one of their biggest bands) recovery treatment by moving all of the label's cut of TGI album funds towards getting them new prosthetic limbs, specialized instrumental kits and such.

Loved what this band stood for, but statement does sound a bit whiny. Though I won't be surprised if they just change their name and start again.

what a fucking cancerous set of comments so far

sad news, band were great at what they did and helped to spread a positive message, wish them the best of luck in their future endeavours

we will totally miss the 10 minutes of music that they've contributed to the annals of rock n roll. legends.

"band were great at what they did and helped to spread a positive message"

Yeah great message dude, "be who you are, until other people have an opinion about you, then give up on your dream because it's too stressful." This news honestly pissed me off a bit.

"we will totally miss the 10 minutes of music that they've contributed to the annals of rock n roll. legends."

Holy fuck my sides! HAHA

I know of no other all-trans punk bands, so their existence alone by definition made them significant for the lgbtq community, and that was probably a liiiiiiittle emotionally taxing.

great band, rip

damn, some of y'all are serious fucking tryhards lol

no u

Should have chose another shtick for their band if they couldn't handle it [2]

being trans is a shtick now eh

I hate it when Trans bands try to appropriate their ideals upon the public community! Just a bunch of sjw nonsense if you ask me! There's nothing punk about being transgender! Vote trump! 9/11 was an inside job!

people on both sides of this butthurt af lol

watch out y'all, saying something of substance instead of shitting all over it and saying 'pussy' as many times as possible is frowned upon around these parts

But yeah considering they all were probably getting death threats for existing and on top of that writing music based around what they go through in society I can see where they're coming from. Wish them the best

Futures w the most succinct comment yet tbh

"I hate it when Trans bands try to appropriate their ideals upon the public community! Just a bunch of sjw nonsense if you ask me! There's nothing punk about being transgender! Vote trump! 9/11 was an inside job!"

Wow. You win, that's definitely how everyone who doesn't like this band feels.

I think he was referring less to the people who don't like the band and more to the whiny entitled crybabies calling the band whiny entitled crybabies

the folks over at /r/kotakuinaction probably do, which obviously you already know

excited for CaliggyJack to post this to the GamerGate subreddit so they can call us all SJWs

Sinternet with the original disses

Oh wait...

i didn't even know there were sides on this shit but wow are y'all fucking imbeciles

bands can break up whenever they feel like it

I haven't really expressed an opinion on this band, within this thread, except one thing about Punk music in general so lol.

tbh the anti-sjw people are just as much bitch-made knee-jerk virgins as the worst ones on the other side

so, an opinion

"we will totally miss the 10 minutes of music that they've contributed to the annals of rock n roll. legends."

i lol'd

was just referencing this band in talking about Whirr, weird

something you couldn't handle in the paramore thread last night

if you're going to make a statement, don't be fucking pussies about people questioning/not aligning with it, holy fuck.
that being said, they were a very average band, and it's sad to see them go.
rip

i'd be okay if this whole post was just Futures sass tbh

"if you're going to make a statement, don't be fucking pussies about people questioning/not aligning with it, holy fuck.
that being said, they were a very average band, and it's sad to see them go.
rip"

They had a good idea, just poor execution. If they ever did get back together and made another product, I'd probably give it a listen.

Wow. You win, that's definitely how everyone who doesn't like this band feels. "

Not what I was going for AT ALL but it is how some people feel about the girls in this band and their music regardless if it's good or not.

i dug this band, but tbh no one could say they didn't see a statement like this coming soon.

Never knew this band but y'all need to calm down and have some good vibes instead.

Band was decent.
Kinda baffled how you could go in to being a full fledged band touring and shit without any pretense of the potential ramifications of "mental and physical health".

If im honestly gonna be as cynical as possible, this reeks of a publicity stunt and an attempt to accumulate keyboard martyrs (i cant believe I actually said that wow).

"Keyboard martyrs"

Poetry.

I guess

more like people worshiping the band as heroes as they dissolve.

Well fuck. I'm trans so this is a bummer but it's also a bummer to see them act like this. Whatever I guess.

Band was shit. Nothing was lost.

i hate most ppl in this comment thread wow. lots of hateful comments towards a band that broke up because of their mental health...

Okay fuck no, want to know why I'm so mad about this? My bike accident when I was a child literally left me with a multitude of brain conditions, including an almost psychotic obsession with wanting to become a woman. I dealt with it throughout most of my teen / early adult life until I finally managed to get a curb on it four years ago. It took everything I had, nothing worked, not therapy, medication, anything, I had to learn to deal with it on my own. These entitled fucks got butthurt because some people challenged their opinion in regards to being trans? They have no right to represent what I went through struggling with trans issues, when they can't even handle a few opinions. They're melodramatic, spoiled fucking children. When faced with opposition and public attention you don't back down, you keep striving for what you believe in. This isn't about fucking mental health, this is about people who had a wonderful opportunity taking the easy way out because they can't handle the fucking pressure. Fuck this band and everything they claimed to fucking stand for.

what the fuck

holy shit

haha wow

...

blackmalachite is that one dude who thinks he can say the n word because he has a black friend

They were an average hardcore band IMO, but this statement just seems disingenuous.

"This band has become too large and unwieldy to feel sustainable or good anymore"

Shouldn't the growth in popularity make the band more sustainable, and allow their message to reach more people?

"Being in the mainstream media, where total strangers have a say in something we’ve created for other queer people, is exhausting."

This is an awful statement here, I'm sorry but the way this is written implies that they only wanted the opinions of people from the LGBTQ community, which is bullshit (because I highly doubt they started the band with the intent of excluding straight people from listening to or discussing them), and contrary to any message about equality or acceptance they were trying to send.

Shame, could've made something positive out of this.

rip hard, really dug their releases. thread is simply ~marvelous~

"blackmalachite is that one dude who thinks he can say the n word because he has a black friend"

If you honestly believe that's an even remotely appropriate analogy for what I had to deal with for nearly a decade, then we have no reason to converse.

yeah there's a million things wrong with what Snide said but I agree that's a pretty bullshit analogy tbh

[abuses the current day toxic sociopolitical zeitgeist to ruin a decent band's career over a rude and tasteless tweet]

[gets a good record deal offer but breaks up instead]

best trolls in the biz

I'm inclined to ask what you find so wrong about what I said?

Fat Mike also offered them a deal too over Twitter lol, why start a band if you wanted it to go nowhere.

yr appropriating what you went through and using it as armor to relentlessly insult a band who quit for whatever reasons they wanted to, so while it was an overdramatic statement i don't think it was too much of a stretch
they owe you nothing and yr being an ass

We're going to have to agree to disagree

Alright, agree to disagree.

@FreddieDelaney31
@BlackMalachite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRPi7M8Hrc0

I sympathize with what you went through but from the way you described it I don't think it's quite the same as being trans and it's a little bit insulting that you're using it to basically assert you know better than them

@sandwich I chuckled and I love Spongebob so a solid win

@hellscythe I sympathize with what you went through when you processed that comment but from the way you assessed it I don't think it's quite the same as experiencing it and it's a bit insulting that you're using that assessment to basically assert you know better than them.

G.L.O.S.S. don't speak for trans people

All Trans people don't speak for G.L.O.S.S.

Done.

shut YR fucking mouth snide

@Bloodhail: honestly you're right, I'm trans so I can relate to an extent but I have no idea what Snide personally experienced. I mostly just take issue with the implication that head trauma somehow made him trans and that being trans is something you can """curb""" or get over

Okay fuck no, want to know why I'm so mad about this? My bike accident when I was a child literally left me with a multitude of brain conditions, including an almost psychotic obsession with wanting to become a woman. I dealt with it throughout most of my teen / early adult life until I finally managed to get a curb on it four years ago. It took everything I had, nothing worked, not therapy, medication, anything, I had to learn to deal with it on my own. These entitled fucks got butthurt because some people challenged their opinion in regards to being trans? They have no right to represent what I went through struggling with trans issues, when they can't even handle a few opinions. They're melodramatic, spoiled fucking children. When faced with opposition and public attention you don't back down, you keep striving for what you believe in. This isn't about fucking mental health, this is about people who had a wonderful opportunity taking the easy way out because they can't handle the fucking pressure. Fuck this band and everything they claimed to fucking stand for.

Can we please meme the fuck outta this haha wow

*They're melodramatic, spoiled fucking children.*

THE FACT THIS IS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH

"honestly you're right, I'm trans so I can relate to an extent but I have no idea what Snide personally experienced. I mostly just take issue with the implication that head trauma somehow made him trans and that being trans is something you can """curb""" or get over"

So, you're telling me that if a person received head trauma and no longer felt comfortable as a man, and decided to change their gender, they could not be considered trans?

no, I'm not telling you that. it's honestly a situation I've never heard of happening before nor one I've given much thought to so maybe I was wrong in saying that.

I hope you don't feel my comment was aggressive as I only meant to inquire. I have heard of many Trans people starting out as straight before accidents, personal reasons, or injuries have caused them to change how they feel in their own body.

Dealing with mental health issues can be crippling at times, especially if your every action is constantly under the scrutiny of the media/others.

So what if they quit because it was too much to manage? That does not equate to them being "spoiled and entitled".

they were a very generic band

i am indifferent to this news

I got to see this band live, so I can be one of the cool people that gets to claim I saw them before they broke up. So, I'm okay with this tbh. Great live band, alright.

R.I.P torts

i liked this band and the message they sent but honestly that statement makes no sense

R.I.P. to one of the most important bands of our time. fuck all the white cishets saying otherwise

"R.I.P. to one of the most important bands of our time. fuck all the white cishets saying otherwise"

W E W
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"fuck all the white cishets saying otherwise"
"cishets"
Do you expect anyone outside of those specific social circles to take you even remotely serious?

The fuck is a cishet, a seafood dish?

could be wrong but I think he was being facetious

"could be wrong but I think he was being facetious"
Poe's Law is in full swing.

lmao

there are still hundreds of queercore bands and LGBT artists out there chillthefuckout

there are

band's music was okay
not everyone can handle the touring lifestyle and that's okay
this thread lol

lol

lmao the amount of people getting offended over this statement i really don't see anything wrong with it they just basically said they were struggling with the touring lifestyle and that being in a band thats somewhat well-known in their scene was having a toll on them and they wanted to go back to being more involved in their own communities what the hell are y'all getting so offended about

they just wanted to take a stab @ trans people for no reason, and found an excuse

Good news article, dumb thread

Good news article, dumb thread [2]

"Amount of people"

Mainly just Snide tbh

they wanted to go back to being more involved in their own communities what the hell are y'all getting so offended about

Yeah sorry I raged so hard guys, this kinda hit home with me.

FEELING LIKE PUSSY, FEELING LIKE CUNT
*Vogues away from your bullshit*

"*Vogues away from your bullshit*"

did you just

I literally did #shook

once again, it's always nice when a new user wastes no time in letting people know how shitty they are

lmao yea

"Spoiled, entitled, whiny fucking crybabies.

Turning down 50K from a wonderful label like Epitaph is one thing, but getting overwhelmed, and breaking your band up because you can't handle people you don't like having opinions about you is just outright asinine."

damn wtf I can barely handle customers at work I can't imagine having thousand of people talk about me, how the fuck can you even act like you have any clue what that's like to go through?

that's because you are mentally unstable trebor17

i hate to say it but i agree with treb, their statement on why they are breaking up was honest, mature, and valid. not everyone can handle that.

This is true, but is there anything wrong with that? Like wow fuck this band for having mental illness

no yeah i don't care about them breaking up lol

they gave their reasons, and they don't owe anything to none of y'all, so, like, fuck off

i dont really feel that feeling mentally and physically drained by their musical presence really necessarily constitutes mental illness..........

i think they're saying that gender dysphoria is a mental illness that can only be cured by jesus

i thought they made cool music but if you're not into it, you're not into it so w/e

their music is cool yea

"i dont really feel that feeling mentally and physically drained by their musical presence really necessarily constitutes mental illness.........."

But yeah even if they don't have anxiety or depression or bipolar or whatever yeah

anyone would feel stressed and tired in that situation, and even if they didn't, they don't need to have an "excuse" to quit, it's their choice

Good band, better thread 😂😆😅

yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man

thread is fucking beautiful, please keep going

and others agree, and then other people have different opinions, did ya hear?

I usually hate people telling others to go kill themselves, but snide should just kill himself or permanently log off

dilton deeeboi

the duboi dab

Still yet to listen to either of their records. Am I missing much?

A whopping ca. 22 minutes of average, but fun hardcore punk with a huge LGBTQ* edge in the lyrics. If that's your thing, go ahead.

Also, band splits up for reasons, people get mad. I don't think the girls in this band owe you anything.

That sounds pretty cool, will check. Thanks slash.

I've gotta say, I don't know how well I would handle being in even a reasonably popular band, I have a lot of social anxieties, never mind all the other stuff they've gone through.

If they've decided it's too much for them, that's their decision.

Yeah what they're saying is entirely reasonable. Being in a band is cool and all but not if comes at the cost of your mental health.

damn shame, they made great music and it was cool seeing trans musicians repping in hardcore, but i can't blame them for doing what's best for their mental health

They might've just thought they could handle it before starting but in the end they realized they couldn't so they backed off, maybe they had naive ideas of how it all would be (namely that it sounds like they only made music for LGBT people and apparently thought only they would listen to it which is fucking stupid) but I don't really see what's wrong with that

Pretty mediocre band all things considered but RIP I suppose

So what if they quit because it was too much to manage? That does not equate to them being "spoiled and entitled". [2]

Rip to a socially relevant band.

I'm not very familiar with them, but did the band actually try to become popular? From what I know they were kind of irrelevant until their debacle with Whirr put them in the spotlight by accident [and probably got them a lot of attention by the lgbtq/punk communities?].

never really understood the whole "we're getting too big" reason to break up but whatever keep it punx

it's transgender music by transgender people, expressing their experiences and feelings. idk how can any of that be attention seeking, as they never made any attempts to use their trans status to gain attention -- it was whirr who exposed them to the public eye

so, for trans people its' a lose/lose situation? either they never express themselves, or they express themselves and be automatically assumed to be attention-seekers?

Snide used to just kind of get on my nerves, but now i see he is just true scum of the earth.

Here in the south anyone that is trans face's extreme discrimination and fear for their lives on a daily basis, in fact many have been killed just for simply living their life.

I can't even imagine being such a minority in a music scene that has already been known to have a bad culture at times, and then touring and being subjected to the opinions and potential discrimination from random strangers all over the US.

I'm sure when they first started touring things weren't as bad, but increased popularity creates jealousy, and jealousy can breed a lot of hatred and ill will. When you get so big you start fearing your life, it's not unreasonable to wanna break up

I got a lot of respect for all these woman, and Its nice to see they stuck around as long as they did. Hopefully they can finally get some peace and mental stability.

"I'm not very familiar with them, but did the band actually try to become popular? From what I know they were kind of irrelevant until their debacle with Whirr put them in the spotlight by accident [and probably got them a lot of attention by the lgbtq/punk communities?]."

What happened between them and Whirr? Sorry I haven't been keeping up on these guys.

Also:

"subjected to the opinions"

HEAVEN FORBID

your a fucking idiot.

quoting this one line is missing the whole point

"subjected to the opinions"

I know white males in bands who have been told anonymously that they would be killed if they showed up to play the next show on their tour. so if your trans imagine shit that like that x1000.

Being paranoid and fearing for your life isn't some small petty shit.

The frontwoman, Sadie Switchblade, got in an argument with Whirr over Twitter a while back. It's unclear who exactly was tweeting on behalf of Whirr at the time, but whoever it was started tweeting some pretty transphobic shit.

it was whirr who started it all tbh, i don't even remember seeing any comments from g.l.o.s.s. at all

gmember: ur right about the violence stuff, but it isn't calligy's fault for not interpreting "opinion" as "violence". people who aren't in that position have no way of knowing

I can't remember if she got involved at the time that Whirr was tweeting, but Sadie did eventually comment on the whole ordeal after the band tried to save face.

it was whirr who came out of the blue with "lol @ whirr" and "gloss is just a bunch of boys in running around in panties making shitty music"

then they said it was "a friend" who posted that, and nobody bought it

Asdfp277: appreciate someone getting where im coming from.

if calligy really paid attention to my whole post he should of realized what i was getting at. when someones opinion is that "you should die for being trans" it's a lot more serious & different than someones opinion being along the lines of "your band sucks and should break up"

whirr have always had that pseudo-punk we don't gaf skateboarder kid mentality on all their social media, so Whirr were just doing what Whirr always do, throwing dumb insults around. They said something like "at least we're not boys playing dressup" and a lot of people saw it and immediately got out the torches and pitchforks on GLOSS's behalf. It doesn't really matter who in particular from Whirr tweeted it bc all of their tweets/facebook posts are done with the same attitude, so the rest of the band can't really shirk responsibility for it.

it's pretty obvious it was them lmao, specifically because they're always posting shit like this

Gmember: You don't know me, you barely know who I am so who are you to say what experiences I can talk about? I don't give a flying rat's ass if I am trans or not. I lived most of my adult life as an advocate for the rights of those who transitioned genders. I've had very close friends who switched genders as well. It's very personal to me, as it should be.

Personally, I don't care what GLOSS does, I didn't like their music so them breaking up had no effect on me. What Snide was mad about wasn't the mental illness part, it was the "These people have opinions on our music", the kind of anti-consumer rhetoric that came off as condescending and rude.

I have many friends who are within the LGBT sphere who I have helped get through personal struggles, and they too were there when I needed their help. They are people I would die for, and their rights as people are something they deserve more than anything. Teaching LGBT people to move on from the words that mean nothing is the best way to help them cope. We do this by helping and supporting them when necessary, but also helping build their confidence so that the menial words of fools cannot affect them. THAT is what should be encouraged.

Fuck you for saying I could never understand their plight because I am not trans, fuck you for denying everything I fought for based on a generalization, and fuck you for trying to put priorities on threat levels based on their identity.

Opinions are NOT violence, and your inability to differentiate the two won't help trans people at all.

tl;dr

dammit guys we gotta play 200 cap venues and not basements anymore and that breaks hxc trans rules rip the band

also caliggy shut up lmao

' it was the "These people have opinions on our music",'

can you direct me to where they said that kotakuinaction boy

"Being in the mainstream media, where total strangers have a say in something we’ve created for other queer people, is exhausting."

Also, keep using that KiA reference as an argument, it's definitely helping and is totally not irrelevant at this point.

"where total strangers have a say in something we’ve created for other queer people, is exhausting."

'keep using that KiA reference as an argument'

will do

also i kinda see how you'd take that from that statement but I don't think it was meant in the way you're using it, and more that they weren't prepared for the mainstream yet and wanted to be performing and writing music for other queer people not just anybody.

dumb confirmed

"and writing music for other queer people not just anybody."

Perhaps I am the only one that doesn't like the idea of "exclusivity" in music. Oh well.

"...and wanted to be performing and writing music for other queer people not just anybody."

still gonna side with you over caliggy here but isnt hardcore exclusivity the same thing everybody hated nails for perpetuating? doesn't matter if you're a meathead or a trans girl, exclusivity is exclusivity.

i don't care that much abt whatever ur arguing rn but i'll say: can u not be like this pls, caliggy. u care too much, and expect other people to care that much too

i hate that kotakuinaction is associated with this kind of people, since kotaku is legitimately such an awful website

I'd like to know what y'all mean when you say "exclusivity" in this context. It's not like GLOSS was saying, "You can't listen to our music if you aren't trans."

Fine, I apologize. I don't want to give a bad name to the subreddit and it's clear I've gone too far apparently. You're right, I am expecting too much from people who have every right not to give a damn. I'll stop posting on this thread now. Carry on.

but that's kinda exactly what rhey were saying and have been saying to an extent

^ was about to say that. they just said they didn't like being in the center of attention + people were idealizing them too much, which is uncomfortable af

it takes away freedom, being in the center of attention & people's expectations. and for some people, freedom of expression is the most important thing they seek in music, specially punk music i bet

They very literally said that what they created was for other trans people, and notice how they exclude trans people when they talk about "total strangers" having an opinion on what they create

They don't necessarily seem to abhor the idea of some other type of person listening to their music, but it's pretty clear that they only wanted other trans people to butt in with their opinions and they didn't wanna, or at least didn't care about any other kind of view

caliggy: u haven't said anything particularly stupid anyway, so don't apologize. just don't care so much, it makes other people care too, and i don't wanna care about anything anymore. there's too much stuff going on already

gwyn [122344758590]

at live shows they'd blatantly tell all trans people to come to the front and tell straight cis ppl to go to the back cause the music isnt meant for them

idk, even when i think that attitude is stupid af, i still kind of understand where they're coming from. idk, i can't put it into words, but i can empathize.

still kind of petty af tho

Still not the same as telling cis people they can't listen to their music.
Some artists make stuff for a specific audience, and they don't owe anything to anyone else.

what you feel isnt understanding, its a psuedo-progressive mindset that conditions you to believe its not as bad if its a trans girl that does the same thing a gross meathead would traditionally do lmao

"at live shows they'd blatantly tell all trans people to come to the front and tell straight cis ppl to go to the back cause the music isnt meant for them"

I was actually gonna say that unless they outright excluded cis people from their live shows they didn't seem that mad about it, what a dumbass thing to do lol

But whatever floats their boat I guess. Although, if people payed to see their live shows and they force them to go out for that then that should very much be considered straight up robbery

"Some artists make stuff for a specific audience, and they don't owe anything to anyone else."

in no way should music be made simply to owe something to someone lol

idk, i feel like it's about giving power and validation to outcasts. i was thinking about songs that discuss outcasts, people who aren't normally accepted. think p!nk's "raise ur glass", etc.

i don't think the metalheads are coming from the same place, as they usually do it because of a sense of superiority as opposed to an attempt at empowering, although i can't possibly know what gloss meant by inviting trans people to the front of their shows. i just feel it's more about showing love to trans people, not trying to feel superior tbh

i feel that way myself, being an outcast weirdo myself, but i make a point not to ever make "normal" people feel inferior and/or feeling superior to them

there are a grand total of 0 things that have come out of switchblades mouth/twitter that were showing blatant love as opposed to trans, non-white, non male superiority

"you barely know who I am so who are you to say what experiences I can talk about?"

I never said you couldn't talk about anything you have experienced.

"Teaching LGBT people to move on from the words that mean nothing is the best way to help them cope. We do this by helping and supporting them when necessary, but also helping build their confidence so that the menial words of fools cannot affect them. THAT is what should be encouraged'

All that is easier said than done, especially when someone deals with mental illness. Not to mention the fact that some LGBT don't have real life people they can reach out to and get support from.

"Opinions are NOT violence, and your inability to differentiate the two won't help trans people at all."

You are right opinions are not violence, but you have to realize that sometimes people act on their opinions and beliefs, and if those happen to be fueled by hate those can lead to violent acts. No one knows what the members of G.L.O.S.S have experienced, but it's naive to think they couldn't have experienced potential life threatening situations.

I wasn't trying to start too much shit, I just got real heated.

I really hope they're not the kind of trans people that hate trans people from other genders because otherwise fuck them and their bland ass music

"there are a grand total of 0 things that have come out of switchblades mouth/twitter that were showing blatant love as opposed to trans, non-white, non male superiority"

thank god i don't have a twitter

sorry boo, ain't gonna look it up, i'd rather live in my fantasy world pretending she's not one of those people

nah they're more "you're perfect if yr trans" and "if yr cis white or male you're fucking worthless and below me"

The fact that some people in this thread now hate me simply because I was honest about my mental illness is honestly a little shocking. Also, I wasn't implying that EVERYONE who is trans is mentally ill, I was just saying that in my case, my former desire to become a woman was caused by a traumatic brain injury, and it took years to calm it down to the point where I didn't have those desires anymore. If you guys don't believe that it took effort, and that I suffered for it, that's also being naive.

s"orry boo, ain't gonna look it up, i'd rather live in my fantasy world pretending she's not one of those people"

joke obviously but you're still stupid

Also, I wasn't implying that EVERYONE who is trans is mentally ill,Also, I wasn't implying that EVERYONE who is trans is mentally ill,Also, I wasn't implying that EVERYONE who is trans is mentally ill,Also, I wasn't implying that EVERYONE who is trans is mentally illAlso, I wasn't implying that EVERYONE who is trans is mentally ill,,

at live shows they'd blatantly tell all trans people to come to the front and tell straight cis ppl to go to the back cause the music isnt meant for them

goddamn it morbid curiosity

yea snake if you think that isn't a problem you have dogshit for brains bud

boolin, why repeat one of the quotes from my response as if it's some terrible thing? My case was different from others, but I had the desire to become a woman for nearly a decade. My desires just subsided over time.

cis tears taste like mountain dew yummmm

ok her twitter is dumb

I didn't take offense to any part of that Snide.

I just can't believe you can't comprehend the fact that they may of broken up over potential life treating situations they faced stemming from peoples negative opinions and beliefs on trans people.

"boolin, why repeat one of the quotes from my response as if it's some terrible thing? My case was different from others, but I had the desire to become a woman for nearly a decade. My desires just subsided over time."

im just takin the shit from an out of context line lol dont fret

"cis tears taste like mountain dew yummmm"

hows being an sjw white knight treating you you fat fuck LMAO

good one mr. faceless keyboard warrior

snide intentionally being a contrarian thickskull, what else is new

"I just can't believe you can't comprehend the fact that they may of broken up over potential life treating situations they faced stemming from peoples negative opinions and beliefs on trans people."

That's not the vibe I got from their statement, and from evidence I've seen in this thread, I don't think that's the case. Their statement was more of "I don't want cis people having opinions on our music" rather than "we're receiving heavy toxicity because we're trans", I'm not saying they haven't, and I wasn't trying to imply that. I was just implying that their statement seemed rather counterintuitive and whiny.

Thank god Snake appeared in this thread I was still debating on who to vote for on sach's worst user list

"good one mr. faceless keyboard warrior"

torts here, newsflash, my avi is my face lmao

Is boolin another torts alt?

nah just my new account cause caliggy got me banned for being too, in yr words, e d g y

honestly if you get mad at a band for appealing to their target demographic then you're a total bitch, it's not like they're not kicking you out of the venue (if they were then disregard everything i said but that's not what torts said so)


plus it's not like they automatically know if yr cis or not unless they're judging people for not looking trans (then yes that's a fucking problem)

there's appealing to a demographic and then there's singling people out and telling them that this music isnt for you, get to the back of the venue, two different things there.

also wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't a complete dick to cis straight white men outside of music and was doig what she did out of pure love for the trans community.

so she's a bigot

I'll never understand the "exclude people because they're not like you" mentality, especially if they're involved in a group of people that's trying to gain more acceptance.

honestly i still don't really see a problem with that

like if she wants to be friends with exclusively LGBT community members, it's superficial but whatever that's fine

if she alienates non-queer listeners for liking their music then yes that's kinda fucked up

Excluding anyone because of who they are is a shitty thing to do, that includes if they're excluding someone for being cis / white / straight / whatever.

yea total dick move

oops

which she does to an extent, which isnt cis tears its just the actual problem here.

also in it being superficial, it also makes it fucking stupid and futher encourages a bigoted mindset that should not be allowed to exist, in any group of people, straight, gay, white, black, male, female, neither, etc

inb4 "reverse racist"

its not reverse anything, its racism, sexism, or whatever else kinda -ism. just cause its bigoted against white ppl doesnt mean its reverse, its racism, plain and simple

"reverse [whatever]" isn't nearly as bad as "the originals", but that doesn't mean it's not fuck-stupid

""reverse [whatever]" isn't nearly as bad as "the originals""

except it is because racism is racism, sexism is sexism, bigorty is bigotry, and so on

except is is because racism is racism, sexism is sexism, bigotry is bigotry, and so on [2]

isn't as bad in the sense that it doesn't have the same consequences

but it could one day, and why would you use that to an extent to where it has to become that some day, genius?

I can't wait for the day when cis people are enslaved by the trans master race

a. it isn't nearly close to being the case, nobody is "us(ing) that to an extent to where it has to become that some day", by far
b. i didn't support it to begin with

""reverse [whatever]" isn't nearly as bad as "the originals""

Yeah because there's no such thing as reverse racism, sexism or bigotry, it's still just racism, sexism and bigotry

hence the quotation marks. thanks

I don't know if this is relevant to the current conversation, but where I live in Southern California, I literally only have two friends who identify as straight; the rest are bi, gay, pan, genderfluid, etc. I've actually gotten made fun of by some of them for being straight on occasion (lighthearted jokes, nothing serious)

Also it's still just as bad regardless

morally yea, it still doesn't have the same consequences. hence my clarification.

thanks

"I've actually gotten made fun of by some of them for being straight on occasion (lighthearted jokes, nothing serious)"
This is fine as long as they take no offense to you also making jokes about their sexuality

anybody else stoked for the cishet holocaust? gonna gas em all with glitter and perfume

"morally yea, it still doesn't have the same consequences. hence my clarification."

And the different consequences being?

see: Hellscythe's comment

"This is fine as long as they take no offense to you also making jokes about their sexuality"

Most of them don't, even considering that most of my irl humor is either dark humor, or shitty puns. The few that have gotten upset have apologized shortly afterwords though.

If you're referring to his last one that doesn't really help

okay i just looked at switchblade's twitter and it literally looked like a cut & paste of every single stereotype of tumblr imaginable


but w/e i still like their music and the message they were sending nevertheless

"Most of them don't, even considering that most of my irl humor is either dark humor, or shitty puns. The few that have gotten upset have apologized shortly afterwords though"
No offense but you're friends sound like pussies, if they are able to dish it out they have to learn to take it, don't apologise because they got a little bit butt hurt over a joke

should try reading that again usheen

I live in Southern California, expecting almost anyone to not freak out over something small like a joke here is like expecting all humans to suddenly not need water to survive.

"should try reading that again usheen"

Why?

Southern Cali sounds like a great place

because snide said that they don't take offense to whenever he makes fun of their sexuality (either that or snide worded it wrong)

They don't take offense to my jokes most of the time (just as I don't take offense to theirs), and when some do get upset, they usually calm down the next day and apologize.

Oh shit, my bad

snide is an idiot, more news everyone already knew at 11

At least its a healthy relationship then

How am I an idiot botb?

Switchblade's twitter description literally says "Menace 2 cisiety"

Literally 0 self awareness lmaoooo

cisiety

I checked her twitter. Ya know, the reasons for quitting the band are still justified. But, uhhh, No. This woman. I...No. Just no. I don't...No. That's almost enough for me to delete their music from my computer. How can you be this dense a human. I..

You know what, I'm out.

yea she's kind of a fucking idiot

Just cringed so hard

this thread bleeds the kind of douchebaggery that people that think milo yiannopolous is funny emit

Link me to the Twitter pls

'Maximum' Rock 'n Roll needs safespaces.

You brat cunts have killed everything, absolutely everything.

sounds like somebody needs a nap

band was fun if overly try hard, thread is why I still lurk this site goddamn

Best thread 2016

This strikes a major nerve with me. I realize the touring life isn't for everyone, but if you can't handle touring, you don't start a band. And if you don't want the attention, don't write in-your-face songs about sensitive, major political issues. By doing so they were practically commanding attention to themselves good and bad, and when they got it they suddenly couldn't handle it. Talk about spineless. If anything, The fact that they gave up on writing about what they believe in so easily reflects badly on them and their kind. And besides, when you've only been together for a year and have ~20 minutes of material, how stressful can touring actually be?

Just checked the band out yesterday, and aside from a few good (if really heavyhanded) messages and some catchy songs, they're pretty medicore, so no big loss here.

I just read Sadie's Twitter and I'm pretty sure I just developed a tumor.

https://twitter.com/SadieSwitch666/status/750961654423166978

I can't... I can't even...

"but if you can't handle touring, you don't start a band"

why, u think music is exclusively playing live? kate bush has never toured in her life

"the genocide of black people in america" oh no oh god no

I feel bad but I genuinely lmao'd

are we beating this dead horse again

you can if you want to but it's not necessary.

would really rather not

lets do it again for old times

Better to beat a dead horse than a live one ya know

Cuz animal rights and stuff

yeah animals need to get a job

Some bands don't like getting too much attention. And sometimes it is possible to get too big too quickly to a point where it's not sustainable. The Defiled did well as an underground band but once they signed to Nuclear Blast the touring and financial strains of playing worldwide and being unable to stick to a job will catch up, so they broke up. So I can understand the idea they they felt like they were getting too big too quickly.

reading back this thread and wow did I have some trash views

which one is u

boolin is his account in this thread = torts = melonade

smh

2016 was when the culture war was in full swing so everybody was fucking tense about SJWs and Trumpers. It was a very polarizing year. Looking back I cared an extreme amount about the views of these band members for no necessary reason other than "Fuck da SJdubyas". I'm sure a lot of people have mellowed out in the last 3 years since, me included.

Well no one was as bad as snide I think lol.


If anyone is interested some g.l.o.s.s members formed a new band with new members called physique

Snide was just honest. At least he wasn't passive aggressive like I was.

i cared a lot in 2016 too it seems

We all did. The whole issue was exacerbated by Trump and battle lines were drawn. Hell, I would say G.L.O.S.S. themselves also fell victim to the same shit.

2016-17 were tough years for discourse. Anger, fear, and bitterness were everywhere and we were all put into fight or flight mode by a media that fed off of these conflicts for clicks.