doesn't sound very acoustic to me

I was waiting for this news

Now I know how Sowing feels :/
Not the same obviously, but...

Lmao

forgive me for maybe being an asshole but seriously how would a little kick like that put a guy/girl in the ER overnight?

I love how he almost falls after it. Sober up, asshole!

her statement doesn't match the footage imo. Claims Homme looks at her and swings his leg back before kicking her and that isn't the case. It looks like an impulsive thing, not intentional, just drunken rock n' roll

-edit- 3,000th comment of nonsense

c-c-c-c-cocaine

being rock n roll gets you in trouble these days mate, didn't you hear?

This is not rock n roll...its retarded behavior

"it was just a little kick to the face and he was drunk! shit happens!"

-this thread, 2017

i shot a baby on stage i was feeling rock and ROLLUH and ended up blowing the baybuhs brains out from the stage. the mother cried but police explained eh it's just how it is with rock n rollers get over it pussy

Not surprised he did this, dude is a massive tool.

rock and roll will never die

rock and roll is pretty dead tbh

but Neil Young said...
aww shit, Neil Young's releasing the Pono and "Stand Tall", I guess rock is dead, huh?

rock and roll is dead and hip-hop sucks

bring in 2018 with a bang

has he responded to the photographer?

@ "hip-hop sucks", just read Pitchfork's Top 10 songs of the year and 9 of 'em were sub par rap songs (DNA is good, but)

what a douchebag move. I'm not seeing ER but maybe a broken nose? he should be in hot shit for assault of some sort. he fuckin kicked her in the face for...his own amusement?

I look forward to how this thread develops.

Hasn't Homme been noted to be acting strange lately? I'd be incredibly surprised if he weren't picking up on the drugs again recently, judging by this incident.

I look forward to how this thread develops.
Have faith in sputnik bros

did he ever drop them?

oh fuck, i musta misread the article i saw earlier, i thought he kicked her camera and that knocks into her? Did he actually kick her directly in the face. oh boy, he could get charged with assault

That night Josh also intentionally cut his forehead and left it bleeding, called the crowd "retards" and made them chant "fuck Muse." He issued an apology but not much of one.

I don't know what's going on with Josh but dude needs to get his shit together stat.

it looks like he hits the camera in the vid, either way, not a cool thing to do

honestly im rooting for josh to ruin his own career

At this rate it won't be very hard for him to do so

Yeah, he's sounding a little unstable.

jeez Homme whatchu doing holmes?

ur the one who said it^^

He looks effectively hammered.

Based on the video, he just looks like he's moving around and happened to kick someone/something.

"honestly im rooting for josh to ruin his own career"

I'd be shocked if this even makes a dent, If his fans can forgive him for all the shit he's pulled in the past they'll undoubtedly forgive him for this.

Nah, he looked over at her and obviously made an effort to reach over there and kick in her direction.

josh literally seems to be losing his marbles here. although, yes fuck muse. that part is hilarious. Actually its all hilarious minus the kick thing

Putting The Story So Far to shame

After watching the video many more times, yeah, he definitely looks over before he kicks.

the fuck is he addicted to?

he's falling apart

Was their new album supposed to be titled Villains, or Assholes?

i think whats most important here is whether or not homme kicked a girl in the face

rather than to what degree homme kicked a girl in the face

the way i see it

is that i just watched a video where homme kicked a girl in the face.

i mean im no scientician but im pretty sure thats good maths.

im not usually for being so black and white but all im saying is im seeing some hard evidence to support the fact that josh homme kicked a girl in the face and then a lot of substantially less convincing evidence that its ok because it was probably an accident on account of alcohol cocaine and rock and roll

Your powers of deduction are the best.

ill wait until social media panders to my liberal sensitivities and emotional biases to decide whether or not he deserves to have his life ruined

he kicked a camera

he kicked the camera that rebounded into her face

it wasn't cool, & I don't know why he did it. but still, if we're "getting down to brass tacks" here, that is what happened

"he kicked the camera that rebounded into her face"

so sue the camera

oop sorry he vicariously kicked a girl in the face intentionally on purpose by visually going out of his way to kick her camera into her face id say thats precisely .3 douchebag units greater of a social offence to someones well-being than directly kicking her in the face.

he only wanted to destroy her face and her camera in his drunken flurry of disarming masculinity

i accidentally broke someones camera on their face with my foot while intentionally kicking the camera that was in front of their face?

if we were to agree to lump all acts of random violence against a person and their personal property in any state of inebriation or otherwise together under the umbrella of 'acts of dickery' then we certainly have video evidence that josh homme was being a dick.

"
"he kicked the camera that rebounded into her face"

so sue the camera"

actually in that case you would still be suing homme, not your camera.

"he kicked a camera"

Yes, it's important to remember that in addition to injuring a reporter who was just doing her job, he also probably broke a very expensive camera, thus making it harder for her to do her job in the future.

Damn, Pots. Going hard.

log s the moral police have declared your line of reasoning illogical

@xing don't mind me, i'm just having a field day over this because i've hated josh homme for a long time as a person.

this is a guy who kicked a founding member out of his band for beating his girlfriend
when you're drunk on a stage with flashing lights coming from all directions, it is possible to see an inanimate object going off and not the person holding on to it

it is also possible to unleash your inner good person and not try to destroy peoples expensive belongings.

i mean obviously kicking any object going off in front of you isn't exactly condonable, but to rush to put it into the same blanket "domestic abuse" category as someone who had flat-out punched a girl in the face is just as brash innit

"this is a guy who kicked a founding member out of his band for beating his girlfriend"

oh wow what a high bar he set there by doing exactly what any responsible person would do especially when they have their entire careers on the line for associating with other terrible people...

"i shot a baby on stage i was feeling rock and ROLLUH and ended up blowing the baybuhs brains out from the stage. the mother cried but police explained eh it's just how it is with rock n rollers get over it pussy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5eFk5x0o44

"i mean obviously kicking any object going off in front of you isn't exactly condonable, but to rush to put it into the same blanket "domestic abuse" category as someone who had flat-out punched a girl in the face is just as brash innit"

i cant seem to find the person who called this domestic abuse or is under the impression that he punched a girl in the face. i do see people watching a video of josh homme kicking a camera into a girls face intentionally which is probably assault and destruction of property and she could probably sue him, recieving compensation for her medical bills, damage to her property, and additional for the mental and emotional ramifications.

"oh wow what a high bar he set there by doing exactly what any responsible person would do especially when they have their entire careers on the line for associating with other terrible people..."

even if that was the reason, you'd think it would lead to him being particularly mindful not to consciously kick a female in the face front in center at one of their shows

and yet he did

i am kind confused as to what point you are defending at this point tbh

he kicked a camera into a girls face and it was irresponsible and shitty



















and he should face chemical castration

is that so rash?

*jokes*

rock always sucked anyway

the point is that I can believe he only saw the flashing object and not the girl behind it, especially in whatever intoxicated state he was in
of course it still sucked, wasn't the greatest move, and she was hurt, but I don't think it was the malicious domestic-abuse level thing some of you are trying to paint it to be
of course no one but homme really knows this shit but, things do look different from the stage than they do to a bystander in situations like this

camera lights have a tendency to come accompanied by a human holding it

lmao at anyone who thinks this is defensible

@Log S. This is Josh Homme we're talking about, dude. Obviously we can't prove it was intentional at this point, but he's proven himself time and time again to be exactly the kind of person who would do some shit like that on purpose.

"but I don't think it was the malicious domestic-abuse level thing some of you are trying to paint it to be"

ill repeat myself as it seemed you may have missed it by accident

"cant seem to find the person who called this domestic abuse or is under the impression that he punched a girl in the face. i do see people watching a video of josh homme kicking a camera into a girls face intentionally which is probably assault and destruction of property and she could probably sue him, recieving compensation for her medical bills, damage to her property, and additional for the mental and emotional ramifications."


im not sure who this person you are talking about who thinks this is a case malicious domestic-abuse and it certainly isnt me. i think ive been pretty clear that i just think that josh homme intentionally kicked a persons camera. and it hit her in the face and fucked her up. and i dont blame the camera for fucking her face up because obvious reasons.

"things do look different from the stage than they do to a bystander in situations like this"

i suppose this means that if i pee off the stage onto someones camera and it accidentally hits them i can blame it on the concert lighting

lol chill, obviously he's in the wrong but it ok

are you talking to me?

ye

aha. thats funny.

snapchat update

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcjRL5IB8ZA/

cognitive dissonance set to maximum overdrive

"Love you Josh❤️. Your real fans know you are a good man! You are SO good to us & have a HUGE heart! You would never intentionally hurt a woman. Don't let the haters get to you. EVERYONE makes mistakes. ❤️"

Lol that comment

His "real fans" must not know much about him.

the defence of this on here is unsurprising yet no less hilarious, dude acted a fucking fool, came up with a totally bullshit apology too

he can get fucked

he's still drunk lmao

the camera is in critical condition in the E.R.

shadows has spoken

god that "apology" is almost worst than the thing itself, it's obvious he shows no remorse and was just doing it to save face in the public's eye

to quote stranger things, a mouthbreather

agreed with that hard, i thought it seemed obvious at least.

he's known for getting irritated with his fans and acting out like a giant man-toddler, and he's totally self-righteous about it. if this wasnt a chick he would be spitting some story about how the guy deserved it and would probably threaten to fuck him up

blaming it on rock n' roll mentality is such lol

as i said in the villains thread, this isn't henry rollins fighting fans at an 80s black flag concert that were more than willing or even more willing than him himself to fight back

"blaming it on rock n' roll mentality is such lol"

its especially ironic when you consider how vocally against moshing he is

omg he just released a gloriously bullshitty apology video on fb

i would be much more willing to accept it as genuine if he even slightly acknowledged any of his other previous behaviour as equally shitty but its clear he has no recollection of any of his other famous outbursts

whatever im not who he has to pander to anyway, i dont listen to the band any more regardless on account of them being not good any more

at least he recognized he's cringey somewhat (?

i dunno man he was so vague about it that i question the depth of the self awareness/retrospect that he insinuated by saying "he has a lot to think about"

he didnt seem to make a link between this and his other aggressive behaviour at all and doesn't see the connection. it just all seems like posturing.

Well, that's a news story... how newsworthy, so controversial, very important to know.

lol

imagine knowing your dad kicks his fans in the face

my dad kicked me in the face

at least he didn't fuck her against her will amirite

"my dad kicked me in the face"

well you probably had it coming.

immediately after i posted it occurred to me it's not even the worst thing your dad could've done

i am dumb

The kick doesn't look too hard but you can plainly see the woman goes somewhat unconscious from it... really shitty of him but ngl I laughed cause I'm a shitty person too

Wow, cunt behaviour for sure. I'm a pretty big fan of the dude and honestly cannot see how this could be justified. Just a straight up dick move.

there's no way she went unconscious lmao

I hate people holding up cameras/phones at gigs, might try this

Did she wear a muse shirt at least?

Hommecide Division coming back around

Typical yank over dramatic attention payout bollocks.

It’s a rock n roll concert not a fuckin tea party.

nicotine valium vicodin marijuana ecstasy and alcohol

In a world of anime, 25yr old man children, safe-spaces and hurt feelings they’re GG Allin

Spicy hot take as always Zak

i usually think i believe in freedom of speech but then zak speaks and then im not so sure anymore

It's seriously like he got lost on his way to /mu/ and just decided to stick around here

honestly its probably good to have him around just for a reminder of how absolutely surreal life is

Ooof hot fukin damn

That's indefensible, especially given his history of doing stupid things & generally not seeming to give a shit. Not that I'm going to stop listening to their (good) albums.

pretty much

Sterile bunch of fannies. Put yourself in that woman’s position. If I was kicked in the face like that by Josh Homme at a show I’d be honoured. I wish I had a scar tbh.

If he kicked out at the camera (like what has actually happened here) I’d laugh.

yeah its pretty funny when your extremely expensive camera that you use for your job is destroyed by a douche and you get your face busted in the process by a dude who would have a tantrum if you even pretended to mosh in front of him.

i'm not even sure why zak is playing a dumb character all the time, what's your deal?

Fuck it, it’s insured and there’s footage who gives a fuck?

ah yes, let's just take kicks to the face that leave us in the ER and have our expensive equipment destroyed by some pussy because complaining is for pansies

coming from the same guy who complains that he has brown neighbours now

It'd explain why he likes Oasis. He's essentially playing a 'chav' from a time before that term existed.

Racist

Haha. I don't think they're a race dude.

C'mon now, you have to be playing a character, or at least playing up to some sort of persona?

I am ‘me’ and nothing will ever change that. I may have been like you when I was younger but I doubt it. I’ve always been ‘me’ and being ‘me’ helps me understand and love ‘you’ People should try being themselves once in a while, you’ll find it unbelievably refreshing.

What, as in a mind cripple?

Yes

Probably.

That's not what it means but ok...
This thread got very, very un-PC rather rapidly.

Hmm, is that not what it means?

fuck's sake Josh

"Put yourself in that woman’s position. If I was kicked in the face like that by Josh Homme at a show I’d be honoured. I wish I had a scar tbh.

If he kicked out at the camera (like what has actually happened here) I’d laugh."

ahh yes, but you're also fucking retarded, so you have to factor that in

Nice one Immanuel Kant

you're probably old enough to remember his name in the paper

lol.

That’s a bit more like it. Fuck me, when did everyone lose their sense of humour? I generally find it distressing. No wonder you’ve all got anxiety issues up to the eyeballs.

yeah well at least we don't have to worry about polio like you lot did

Rickets were still knocking around tbh

why do people even care about this shit

ur looking for peoples sense of humour in a thread in which you have objectively said nothing funny tho

Well not funny haha anyway

People will defend anything if they have a hard on for the person that did it smh

I don't see it as defense, rather acknowledging that a moment of retarded behaviour shouldn't cost the guy's entire career or result in him being condemned as if he commited a heinous crime.

Having seen the footage again I’ve changed my opinion.

What on Earth was he thinking?
To lash out like that shows complete recklessness and it’s a miracle the victim hasn’t suffererd fractures.
This machismo and complete neanderthal attitude that emboldens itself at rock concerts needs to be shown for what it is and stamped out.
There’s absolutely no need for such moronic actions, I hope the woman receives a massive payout, Josh faces criminal charges and such events like these are banned for good. I’m truly incensed and outraged at such vile behaviour and it needs to be controlled, monitored and ultimately encroached upon by some form of independent government body to ensure health and safety is a priority.

Can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.

lol ppl still defend this known asshole

any other details or is this just the story so far?

How can't you tell if it's sarcastic wut. Just zak being an arse as usual

This is bad and all but I fail to see the relevance of the photographer being female, every single headline is using that specific pre-modifier

Because men should be strong and can take a kick to the face like a champ while women are weak and it's like kicking a puppy

Now I’m sorry but in using the pejorative ‘arse’ you have left me shocked and deeply upset. Not only on a personal level but think about the potential homophobia projected by your use of that term. You are repulsive and vile, can we not use such derogatory and prejudice abominable phrases please?

Yeah i don't give a shit about this it's no big deal.

If he would have done some sexual harassment though I'd burn all my eodm and qotsa stuff immediately

zak- would you crawl over 50 good pussies to get to one fat boy's arsehole?

Both genders have arses mate - but if you sexualised the specific 'arse' you were being called that was your own prerogative. Take from that what you will

Only if he looked after himself

the key to a well groomed arsehole is a thorough trimming

Fucking horrendous. Although I hear people aged 16-25 are now experimenting a lot more with anal which is an absolute joy to hear when I’m eating my cornflakes.

not sure about anal, but ass eating definitely

pro tip- cornflakes are lovely with brambles

https://www.facebook.com/QOTSA/videos/10156044377137806/

Here’s josh’s video response to the whole thing. Some of it seemed pretty canned but it seems like he’s learned from it at least. He understands she’ll probably sue.

come to brazil

Pots killing it itt

His apology was so half-assed. He obviously targeted her and there was no other equipment nearby that he was kicking.

Can the dude just OD soon so we're free of his music?
Edit: O there's a video apology now, I guess I'll have to watch that before I judge

Homme needs to do himself a favor and OD

"any other details or is this just the story so far?"

most underrated comment of this thread thus far tbh

his video apology is better

at least he acknowledges that he kicked a camera into her face lmao


I first heard about it from the Queens facebook post and it made it sound like he just accidentally kicked a tripod or smth

didn't know how much people apparently hated josh homme. damn.

They hate the new album and, thus, hate him

You sure it has nothing to do with the fact that hes a total douche?

remember when he kicked nick out for assaulting a girl?

remember when uh

uh

NO ONE KNOWS

It's because of this that we can no longer write about or review any QOTSA material. We simply cannot separate the artist from the art in good conscience.

"remember when he kicked nick out for assaulting a girl?"


it's like when Trump criticizes others for sexual assault/misconduct... like.. really?

/hypocrisy

It doesn't count as wife beating if you only use your foot!

What a guy

3.5 thread might read again

oh i got it remember when

when uh

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

"Can the dude just OD soon so we're free of his music?"

you're a terrible human being

Besides, his music would still be around

"Can the dude just OD soon so we're free of his music?"

lmao that was funny

That kick didn't look like enough to send a child to the ER but it was a pretty dumb move on his part. Not justified at all.

"That kick didn't look like enough to send a child to the ER'"


it's almost like there's sensitive bones and tissue around the eye socket or something.

Time for a new username^

How hard is it to just not kick people in the face? Seems like a pretty easy ask.

Then again, I keep asking myself "how difficult is it to not walk around in your underwear in the workplace and/or not masturbate in front of your coworkers?" but the answer appears to be "very difficult."

i honest to god can't understand some people's thinking process either

"Can the dude just OD soon so we're free of his music?"

You're a different kind of asshole aren't you

dude's a scumball of the lowest regard. coward move josh you fuckwagon

Couldn't give two fucks

"That night Josh also intentionally cut his forehead and left it bleeding, called the crowd "retards" and made them chant "fuck Muse." He issued an apology but not much of one."
So disappointed, idk. I know he can be a dick sometimes but I still love the guy. Or did, idk fuck.

"It was probably neekafat"
Okay fuck you but I laughed

Before you judge someone walk a mile in their shoes. I propose we all kick a photographer in the face today to understand Josh's mindset.

[2]

https://www.stereogum.com/1974872/queen-of-the-stone-ages-josh-homme-kicked-a-photographer-in-the-head-at-kroq-christmas-show/video/

Those two pics from the injured photographer's POV right before the kick... wow Josh, wow.

...I wouldn't go THAT far

That 2nd update thing is 10x better than Jesse's apology at the least

I know, I guess now you won't be listening to them now :/

Ain't that a kick in the head

My head keeps spinnin' ...

"That 2nd update thing is 10x better than Jesse's apology at the least"

Yeah the problem is it took a bunch of people calling him out on how shitty and dishonest his first update was to get to that 2nd one. So I have a hard time believe the 2nd one is sincere and not just a better prepared version of the first

mystery solved

http://moaropeth-blog.tumblr.com/image/3969395972

"So disappointed, idk. I know he can be a dick sometimes but I still love the guy. Or did, idk fuck."

My thoughts exactly. I always defended this guy when my friends said he was a dick because of how he treated Kyuss and later how he treated Nick Oliveri. But now its like damn

u weren't around for those times

She was probably begging to get kicked in the head

"Yeah the problem is it took a bunch of people calling him out on how shitty and dishonest his first update was to get to that 2nd one. So I have a hard time believe the 2nd one is sincere and not just a better prepared version of the first"

I do see that side of it too, idk. Just a lot of things he said seemed honest but it's hard to tell with a celebrity

I'd kick someone in the face too if I put out that last garbage album.

"FUCK MUSE"

and he totally redeems himself!!! lmao

Martial arts practice is for the dojo, Josh Hommes.

He still absolutely nails that solo like he nailed that camera.

And I think the first apology was lawyer written. I do think he’s sincere with that video apology, Josh isn’t one to apologize like that.

" Josh isn’t one to apologize like that."
Yeah actually that's a good point, he's not really one to admit fault like that lol

Yeah honestly, I don't buy it worth shit. I mean hopefully he won't kick more photographers in the face?

He played a show at the venue my brother worked at a few years back and he was stoned all day due to back issues and drinks a bit, who knows what else he consumes. His video apology sounded like a person who sobered up and was wondering wtf they did the night before and embarrassed by it. He was most likely stoned and drunk and who knows what else when he was performing and impulses got the best of him.

It wouldn’t have shocked me if he did that, which is why I think that apology video is the most introspective he’s ever been.

"i usually think i believe in freedom of speech but then zak speaks and then im not so sure anymore"
Hahaha

Fact is that he's an egotistical performer and he felt the lady was being disrespectful to his "art" so he kicked her camera. He's a prick.

Of course he’s a prick. But what else can he do at this point other than not do it again? He apologized twice, he’s gotten a ton of bad press, and he’s gonna give this woman a massive pay out.

"It wouldn’t have shocked me if he did that, which is why I think that apology video is the most introspective he’s ever been."

Agreed hard

Woman deserves the huge payout, chances are she was just doing her job and shooting the show for a local newspaper/website/publication.

????

Yeah she should def take legal action

Aiwaz literally what the fuck are you saying

I just kinda tuned him out lol

The comments on that instagram post have the same level of cognitive dissonance that the Rihanna getting beat situation had.

"I want Chris Brown to murder my vagina"
- 10,000 dumb twitter whores who thought domestic abuse was sexy.

Also, that kick was pretty intentional. You could tell from his motions very clearly that he meant to kick her. This isn't like the dude from The Story So Far who was justified in kicking that girl off the stage, this was an unprovoked attack on a camerawoman who was hired to film.

"his isn't like the dude from The Story So Far who was justified in kicking that girl off the stage"

egh here we go again

I mean I think we can all agree though that effed up Josh Homme wanted to kick her camera out of her hands, I don't think he meant to kick her, and even though it ended up injuring her I think that distinction is very very important.

Josh shouldn't have kicked the camera out of her hands period, not much distinction to make. She wasn't on stage being a nuisance with a phone or disturbing the show, she was doing what she was being paid to do, filming the band on the show floor. Josh is 100% in the wrong here, and I'm glad that he's replacing the girl's camera, paying for any medical expenses and giving compensation.

There's a huge difference though between being malicious and wanting to harm someone physically and wanting to kick the camera out of a photographer's hands. Both are shitty but there;s a huge difference in intent. He owned up to it, including the physical harm he caused but intent is important, but so are the consequences of what his actions caused.

"There's a huge difference though between being malicious and wanting to harm someone physically and wanting to kick the camera out of a photographer's hands. Both are shitty but there;s a huge difference in intent."

That's true, yeah I guess that's a relatively big difference.

I by no means am justifying his actions, I just wanted to say intent is important and it's clear he was just being a complete dick and wanted to kick her camera away and I don't think he intended to ever tee up on her face with his foot.

Wat

he just ROASTED JH

Lol

more mod pussery, probably.

It would appear that our boy assaulted a photographer.

Yo some asshole kicks my camera into my face but he only meant to kick my camera so its ok

Brandon Flowers trolling lol

Josh Hommehamehame *blasts*

Anyone know what the song is in the vid btw, the guitar sounds pretty cool

Say what you want about this incident but at least Josh is no Afroman.

https://imgur.com/gallery/9ELxRS0

That gif is a classic

"Yo some asshole kicks my camera into my face but he only meant to kick my camera so its ok"
...Yea no one said it was ok

The woman Afroman hit invaded his personal space and surprised him. This woman was not even on the stage. I'm n ot saying Afroman was justified (he apologized profusely and attended anger management classes, probably settled too) but somewhat different circumstances here.

She was taking a picture at the time he was kicking, ie it was pressed right against her face. It's like kicking someone with a mask on, injuring them and saying "shit man, I only meant to kick your mask, not your face - my bad"

Username to thread topic compatibility is out of this world

they prolly deserved it #InHommeWeTrust

Wtf, I love Josh Homme now. shame the music sucks

Username to thread topic compatibility is out of this world [1 2 fucking3]

about the risks of invading someone's personal space (black metal version) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffxbailr-dg

This is fucked up and all, but FUCK MUSE might be one of the most legendary phrases I've heard all year.

However, there's no justification to Homme's actions. So what he kicked the camera or something, he still had the intent to physically assault someone.

Oh look Josh Homme being a douchenozzle again. I hope he gets fucked over this time and he finally learns his lesson.

lol creating an account just to say that

#activist

"it's almost like there's sensitive bones and tissue around the eye socket or something."

Been kicked in the face pretty hard before, wasn't that bad.

u sound smart

ever been kicked in the head

been dropped on my head on concrete

fuck josk homme

yeah he's fucked that is definitely a deliberate kick to the face

this is nothing compared to what jesse lacey did tbh

'Been kicked in the face pretty hard before, wasn't that bad.'

good for you man