caught noncing?

oooooooof

fwiw, Thomas Winkler posted a response: https://www.instagram.com/angus_mcfife_official/?hl=en

"This morning I received an e-mail from the band, informing me that they want to part ways with me. As a reason they mentioned disagreements on business and organizational matters."

is this band big enough to receive allegations? I do really enjoy them though and i'll miss THE McFife

Thanks for the addition Malcontent. Was gonna throw that in the comments but got busy

I know next to nothing about the situation (besides some possibly irrelevant, old, questionable tweets) but it seems to me like Tom is both extremely surprised and, genuinely, heartbroken.

Regardless, I can't imagine a band without him. He embodies that character. Shit, he even SIGNS OFF on everything under his GH pseudonym :/

You are not supposed to be able to fire a Prince.

I said the same thing. It's a coup

Please don't be sexual harassment again..

Let it be some fucking Nightwish 'we don't wanna work with you anymore' shit or something trivial.

That's dumb they fired him through email...

Drugs or rape?

Oof those band chat screenshots... this band is toast lol

must.... resist... urge to call... band... glory.... hole....

Yea, the screenshots are pretty bad. It's like for once the fired band member might not be the bad guy

Honestly Thomas always seemed like the most wholesome one. His personal adventures just paint him as a Disney character

guy using slurs was the alestorm vocalist

what a fucking shocker

Screenshots? I need a link

https://twitter.com/GloryhammerC posted them.

Daddy Crud is James Cartwright (Bass)
Crud Syndrome is Christopher Bowes (Keyboard)
Crud Ambrosio is Michael Barber (Live Keyboard)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gloryhammer/comments/p9mdeu/leaked_gloryhammer_group_chat_texts_reveal_racism/

"Otherwise people will find out we're just a bunch of complete cunts."

WELP

Lmao

https://twitter.com/whatawiseass/status/1429522654088896516

Looks like accusations of abuse are also coming out

What a fucking shitshow omg

Damn... Displaying their dirty laundry out for everyone to see doesn't exactly bode well for their band name.

the audacity of these fucking nerds to talk like that

"is this band big enough to receive allegations?"

is the implication here that obscure artists can't commit sexual assault? what

It's not rape if your album doesn't go Triple Platinum!

it was a dumb joke you right, but what a shit show this situation is becoming.

"should be a rule, boink only, no dating fans."

so like, my band opened for Gloryhammer and Alestorm in '18. after the show, our singer (my best friend's girlfriend at the time) disappeared for an hour. turned out she was on their tour bus getting laid while we loaded out. she then dumped my dude for GH's drummer, and they got married and moved to england.

tl;dr GloryHammer dudes have always been scummy

that is a wild story

Well, I guess your best friend gets the last laugh at least lol

The leaked messages linked on Reddit contain the phrase "Gave her boobs a good old spermin [sic]" and now I want to drink bleach

"tl;dr GloryHammer dudes have always been scummy"

I read your story and while the statement might be true it's not really a good synopsis of the story lol.

true, that was just one dude sleeping with someone's girlfriend. but it fits into the larger picture we're assembling of this circle being the real fucking wankers.

"true, that was just one dude sleeping with someone's girlfriend."

I've never really liked that phrase/sentiment because it treats the "girlfriend" as someone who has no agency.

But that being said, yeah this band seem like a bunch of wankers. I've never heard of them so I checked them out and I would've actually thought they were endearingly dweeby if this whole text message business hadn't come to light.

ha ha this sucks lol.

(Deleted because I wised up and read mmore of the chat)
If real this is fucking appalling.

The racism can be found right here.

https://twitter.com/GloryhammerC

Fucking woooooooow

ew why do i have to share a last name with this wanker

change your name to Thomas Wanker

"I've never really liked that phrase/sentiment because it treats the 'girlfriend' someone who has no agency."

yeah that's not great phrasing and you're 100% right. turned out she'd cheated on him a bunch though, and everybody was happier with an ocean between them. weird little saga. GloryHammer isn't really the villain, but it was bad "we're famous, we do what we want" vibes that the text messages (assuming they're real) play right into.

Fucking bummer, his voice had so much character. He really way the key ingredient that set these guys apart from the rest of their modern power contemporaries. Sucks to find out he was a prick in reality.

With these types of firings and the way these articles are written I can't help but imagine a bunch of guys picking the now-ex member up literally and "removing" them from a practice room or bar or something.

"Fucking bummer, his voice had so much character. He really way the key ingredient that set these guys apart from the rest of their modern power contemporaries. Sucks to find out he was a prick in reality."

Wait, I thought the band was a bunch of pricks and the singer the nice person in comparison

I'm sure the world's greater villains thought they were on the right end of things. It's not a comparison here but: adolf probably thought he was a gem.

two sides to stories etc etc

I don't see how this applies to this situation. Did the singer say anything on these screenshots? I don't think he did

Nice people and pricks…

So to recap: Band is shit and has thrown out the only member that, allegedly, isn't shit?

Never heard of these guys, but judging from the text messages they seem lovely

can we all at least agree alestorm are dogshit

Gnocchi what are you talking about? This guy seems like the least scummy person involved here. Why are you comparing him to Hitler?

I was confused too lol
Makes you wonder who leaked the screenshots, right? Maybe the guy who got kicked out of the band, but it's just speculation

I didn’t, read it again.

there is always more than one side to stories, yea. I wonder if there will be more material to this, but maybe it isn't all that important after all

I would be okay to see a redemption arc for the singer

"GloryHammer isn't really the villain, but it was bad "we're famous, we do what we want" vibes that the text messages (assuming they're real) play right into."

Ha! To be honest, given the context of the other shit they've been doing/saying "falling in love with the lead singer of the opening band, and getting married and living happily ever after" is downright wholesome lol.

No idea what happened or what the truth is. It must suck to finally get back to playing shows and touring after a year and a half, having literally just played a huge festival, and a couple days later the band emails you to let you know you're fired. Even weirder that they apparently already have someone else ready to fill-in for their upcoming shows. Sounds like they knew this was gonna happen.

I'm not a fan of theirs, but I did see them live at Heavy Montreal 2018 and they were great. Their singer was very charismatic and appropriately over-the-top. The crowd seemed to really like him. It might be hard to recover from losing him. And if he was kicked out for no real good reason, the band just really fucked themselves over.

Allegedly from a lot of what I'm gathering from different media sources it sounds like they didn't like him using the character name when featuring on other bands' projects. That would certainly explain why the initial matter was described as "business related".

Still think it's pretty weak though. Chris Bowes is literally playing the same character in Wizardthrone but that shit is okay somehow

that is the pettiest imaginable reason to remove someone from a band ever

“that is the pettiest imaginable reason to remove someone from a band ever”

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Hell of a way to piss off your fans.

"I would be okay to see a redemption arc for the singer"

Dude doesn't need to be redeemed I don't think. Everything so far has painted him as innocent and genuinely wholesome.

I guess it's been confirmed that he owns the copyright for Gloryhammer. I would die laughing if he rebooted the band with all new members. I'd be entirely ok with it

Wait, you mean the singer gets the copyright for the name? Really?! If that's true then lmfao

Trademark, not copyright. And even if the trademark is registered under Winkler's name it might not necessarily mean he's the sole owner or has the sole right to use it.

Ah, gotcha. Would have been funny though

Yup, I'm not an IP lawyer, but my basic understanding is that registration of a trademark doesn't eliminate the rights of those who were using that trademark before registration. Therefore, when Winkler registered the band name as a trademark in 2019 it would have prevented anyone else from using the same trademark/band name in the future, but would not affect the rights of people already legally using the name, i.e. his bandmates.

Additionally, seeing as how Winkler is apparently a lawyer by training, my assumption is that the band itself likely has formal agreements on the use of the band name which would also have an effect.