Seeing a band live doesn't magically change to content of the album. All it can mean is that you have some different subjective reaction to the songs.

Album Rating: 1.5

My point WAS that Mastodon's song was easy, but it flowed right and thus made a good song. And who cares if I haven't seen them live? I can only judge from their album, and their album sucks. What do you want from me?

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Album Rating: 1.5

"And solo's don't make a band technical, it might make the guitarist technical, but seeing as the whole band isn't playing the solo together, it screwes your throught."



Ok, so where are the other band members playing technical stuff? I heard one or two bass slides in the album (not that technical) and not much else from the bass. Drums were average, nothing exceptional, not terrible. So why are they considered technical? That doesn't "screwe my throught" at all.



I'm judging based on the album content, not live performance, let me re-emphasize, as are all the other people on this site. I recommend not buying the album, thats what people come here for. But seeing as I haven't seen a live show by them, I'm not going to say "don't go see them live." The album and live performance are two different things, and if you think the album deserves a better rating because they had a "phenominal" live performance, you're very wrong.

Album Rating: 3.0

cogitus is a dumbass. you obviously dont like the chariot in general, dont rate an album that you dont like the style of music. they did what they wanted, it turned out how they wanted. you just dont like it. its not really a bad cd at all. its not the best, but it is the best effort by them. i dont know what you see in there first cd

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Album Rating: 1.5

"you obviously dont like the chariot in general"



Obviously? I liked their first album, and the EP wasnt too bad. Obviously you're a homer fan who has no idea what hes talking about. And for the genre, I definately do like some metalcore.



"they did what they wanted, it turned out how they wanted"



How does it that make it a good album!?!? There is no way this is worth a 4.5.



And I never said they played "simple" music. Its just not technical in the sense of a band like Psyopus, Meshuggah, etc, and it shouldn't deserve that label. Its probably somewhere in the middle.



If you don't see the instrumentation as poor or the songwriting terrible, I'm fine with that, thats your opinion, I don't mind. We agree to disagree.

ok

"I liked their first album, and the EP wasnt too bad"

why say that they lacked cohesion and organization when their first album was complete chaos? (not in a bad way)

The Chariot's sound is based off complete chaotic hardcore that probably seems very loose and all over the board, but i think they do it intentionally... and yes, people arent going to like AS much as others
but if you see them live,you'd KINDA understand their music a bit more... cause their live shows are INSANE! (meaning, you cant really sound too technical when your moving all over the freekin stage lol)

Album Rating: 1.5

I know their sound is chaotic.. I just thought there was a better thought process in their first album, as well as just better riffs.

Cogitus is right. Their first album was good because the music was chaotic to reflect the dark lyrical concepts of the album (see: my review of the LP). But the recording was the essential factor. The recording is what makes the album incredible. The way Scogin's screams sound, the feedback on the guitar, the thundering bass, all paint the picture of what the lyrics narrate. But when they started recording with run-of-the-mill recording, they just sound like any other boring modern metalcore act. Plus, I think they definitely simplified their music when they switched recording styles too. It's nowhere near as chaotic as it was (judging from the two tracks on Unsung and what I've heard of this album).

I still think its just as chaotic, only polished a bit more with the recording style...
If you listened to the original release of "And Shot Each Other" back when it was "Elvish Presley" it sounded just as chaotic as their first...
and as for the dark theme, i really dont think you should label a band for being "dark" just cause they have a black and white cover art and sound like Converge (rawness wise)
and even still, Josh Scogin didnt think that the first album was the best that The Chariot could do...
and if you didnt know, Everything is Alive... was done entirely live, as was Bless The Martyr (for the most part), so i can understand why The Chariot would clean their act up a bit because besides being a bit less polished, Everything is Alive... is pretty much a followup of Bless The Martyr
The Chariot wanted to make something fresh, while still holding onto that dirty southern chaotic hardcore... and viola, you got The Fiancee...

Stop calling it hardcore, it's metalcore first off.

And you obviously didn't read what I said about the lyrical content being dark. I didn't label them as dark cause the album cover is black and white. The lyrics focus mainly on how godless and depressing the world is and a lot of the lyrics have a sort of apocalyptic theme to them (see: And Then Came Then).

And as for the live recording, I never believed that. The vocals and some guitar parts sound way to polished to be straight up live. Some modification must have been done.

haha, all right fine... metalcore

and if you look at it that way then Everything is Breathing... is still just a followup to Bless The Martyr and it doesnt really have the correct sound and tone that The Chariot is...

Everything is Breathing... would have been better if Josh stayed with Norma Jean so The Fiancee creates The Chariots sound and it creates a newer sound then that of older Norma Jean...

and besides maybe a couple water break in between, the recording was done entiely live with NO mastering... another reason why Everything is Breathing... is more of a followup of Bless the Martyr, which was done in 3 takes...

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and Cogitus, you didn't by any chance neg all of my reviews for no reason did you? If I am mistaken in this accusation you have my deepest apologies.

Album Rating: 1.5

Thankyou, someone agrees.

I hated it, WAY MUCH.

why

Album Rating: 1.5

No, I didn't neg your reviews. Sorry that theres some irresponsible nut out there doing such a thing.



And I did forget to mention the recording in my review. Thanks for pointing that out cb.

oh aight my bad bro =]