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Sowing
Moderator
September 9th 2017


43974 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I like System but I think it's a bit too anthemic for a National opener; it'd be all downhill momentum-wise from there. Works better right where it is IMO.

Tunaboy45
September 9th 2017


18433 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This one really takes its time to unfurl and reveal everything, much less immediate than TWFM but almost as good.

Sowing
Moderator
September 9th 2017


43974 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

agreed



HV > Alligator > TWFM > Boxer



not sure where this fits in yet

Tunaboy45
September 9th 2017


18433 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I was a worm, I was a creature

I get on the ground the second I'd see you


theBoneyKing
September 9th 2017


24462 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Plane you should read the American Songwriter feature I mentioned in one of the other threads for this, I think you'd find their songwriting process interesting.

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
September 9th 2017


16654 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

glad they're good again twfm was so bad this rules tho

luci
September 9th 2017


12844 Comments


The opener feels more like a "we're back" statement than an introduction to the album so I get the misgivings. It's a warm embrace for sinking into the couch rather than a preview of what's to come. I love it.
The closer on the other hand I'm finding to be quite lackluster. Ending the album with what's effectively a song compilation is an odd concept for this band, and it just ends up feeling like a preview track on Soundcloud with short snippets of every song. Doesn't give the record any sense of closure, just seems to peter out (which fits the thematic purpose I guess).

cylinder
September 9th 2017


2639 Comments


the closer is pretty easily the most unique-sounding thing they've ever done

theBoneyKing
September 10th 2017


24462 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

The closer is really more of a mood piece than a song. Matt had misgivings about it too but eventually decided it was worthwhile, ironically, only after using part of it to write Guilty Party.

Winesburgohio
Staff Reviewer
September 10th 2017


4010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i'm going to try and make my case hungover, so apologies in advance for any errors in argument, pacing, syntax, but: the subdued tone and the subtle sadness, the reconciliation of the thematic inquiries of the album, the sanding of the jagged edges peppered throughout the album: opener should be the closer. game set match.

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
September 10th 2017


16654 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

i can see it but like what would be the better opener



and then where does the title track go??

cylinder
September 10th 2017


2639 Comments


The opener being the closer would be so depressing tho. I couldn't leave on that note. I love that the title track ends it because it's a bit more hopeful and also feels more conclusive, as we get to see where the album title came from, right before it exits

DoofusWainwright
September 10th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Turtlehead should have been the opener and closer and poked out between every other album cut

Winesburgohio
Staff Reviewer
September 10th 2017


4010 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

for posterity: Rowans extremely good and intriguing adjustment.



1. Nobody Else Will Be There

2. The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness

3. Turtleneck

4. Born to Beg

5. Empire Line

6. Day I Die

7. Carin at the Liquor Store

8. I'll Still Destroy You

9. Guilty Party

10. Dark Side of the Gym

11. Walk it Back

12. Sleep Well Beast

Dedes
Contributing Reviewer
September 11th 2017


10061 Comments


What album would be a good start for this band?

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
September 11th 2017


16654 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

boxer

StarlessCore
September 11th 2017


7752 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

turtleneck so bad

WatchItExplode
September 11th 2017


10464 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

a single song that convinced me the National I used to love is dead, buried, and rapidly decaying

mryrtmrnfoxxxy
September 11th 2017


16654 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

oh no rip

StarlessCore
September 11th 2017


7752 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

kinda feel that way but its not like this is bad



its more they were so good and this isnt like god-tier shit



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