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kalkwiese
January 21st 2019


10456 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Waaaaaait! 'Give me the child I'll give you the man', they say

kalkwiese
January 21st 2019


10456 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I need to sing a Jim Grey tune again

Fowo
January 21st 2019


719 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

this particular song, gifr to afterthought and into the white are so stuck in my head rn. I've listened to all of their albums but none of them tops this for me personally

CosmicPie
November 2nd 2019


2901 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I'm starting to really appreciate this band. Packed with substance.

Fowo
May 27th 2020


719 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

AND ONCE AGAIN EVERYBODY



WAAAAAAAAAIT

GIMMIE THE CHILD ILL GIVE YOU MAN THEY SAY



yeah changed to 5, this album deserves it

vermillionZ
June 14th 2020


397 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

First time listening today and I love it, much better than Bloom for sure, found that one somewhat boring. Didn't even know that Atlas from "In Contact" is just a re-recording from this album, the original is much better honestly.

wildinferno2010
June 14th 2020


1907 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

100%. Not a fan of what they did to that track at all on In Contact.

Fowo
June 15th 2020


719 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

The only track from the album I personally despise lol.



Kinda wish they redid Into the White

kalkwiese
June 15th 2020


10456 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Upon relistening I don't enjoy the revisited version as much as I thought tbh. But it's still nice

solrage
June 27th 2020


309 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I love the music on this but it was clearly mixed by a deaf person. I can't stand to crank this as it's piercing bright in some sections. I've had to use a PEQ to drop the 1.5k-4k range about 3db.

Fowo
June 27th 2020


719 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It's not perfect but not that bad either. Unless my 90$ headphones are just too simple to catch the terrible imprefections (using RHA ma750 right now)

CosmicPie
June 28th 2020


2901 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I've never been one to notice that much. Unless it's over the top good like Steven Wilson's stuff or over the top bad like Baroness' Gold and Grey.



This is the second album where the mastering was brought up in a negative way, and I just don't see it.

solrage
June 28th 2020


309 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@Fowo: I looked up measurements for your headphones and they're 15db down at 2k: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ReadHeathAcousticsMA750.pdf

Typical "neutral" tends to be 5db-7db down, something like this: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD650.pdf



So I absolutely believe this album would sound fine on your headphones because the "bright" area between about 1.5-4k is already quite attenuated on your phones. I'm using ZMF Aeolus right now and they measure similarly to the HD650 above, but with better/more extended bass.

solrage
June 28th 2020


309 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@CosmicPie: Not mastering but mixing. Mastering is typical modern metal/rock loudness wars stuff with minimal peak dynamics. It's not good, but not as terrible as some, and it's so common that it doesn't bother me much anymore unless I compare it to old stuff with double/triple the peak dynamic range. Mixing is about the balancing of instruments/volume. Whoever mixed this clearly did it on speakers/headphones that weren't neutral.

CosmicPie
June 28th 2020


2901 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Ah, okay. I see. What instruments you think sound off in the mix?

wildinferno2010
June 28th 2020


1907 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

It was mixed by their guitarist. Seems to be the last one he did on his own, so perhaps he wasn't 100% happy with it either.

I've never listened to this through headphones and it's always sounded decent through off the CD through my car speakers.

Fowo
June 28th 2020


719 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah but to be honest, from people who listen to metal dominating majority will choose V-sounding headphones, not neutral ones. Bass frequencies in most cases contain the leading melody lines, so it's natural you'd like to have it expanded with good gear. I've got one pair of some neutral headphones but can't use it for stuff like this or other "punchy" style songs, instead they do fit to music like The Dear Hunter very well

solrage
June 29th 2020


309 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@CosmicPie: In the opening track the guitar is super bright during that 0:37-1:07 section. I didn't make it past the opening track before I went into my EQuilibrium plugin on JRiver to EQ it myself.



@wildinferno2010: Haha, makes sense it was mixed by the guitarist!



@Fowo: I hear you. I'm a headphone junkie so I have many sets, including some V-sounding ones and some downward sloping ones. The good thing about neutral phones though is that it's easy to EQ if you come across albums like this that need it. I just checked and, eg, this album/song sounds fine on my NAD HP50s, but they're indeed very bassy headphones that are down 10db at 2k.

Mythodea
January 8th 2021


7457 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Man, this has progressively become equal to In Contact, and maybe it's starting to surpass it.

LeddSledd
January 8th 2021


7444 Comments


only heard Bloom from these guys, what's probs their best?



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