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MrKite
January 1st 2007


5020 Comments


You really know your stuff. I never knew that. I'll make a note of that as it will probably come in handy if I decide to sing in a band.

Steerpike
January 1st 2007


1861 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Uh, yes I can. I've seen videos of him doing that god-awful squawking of his. His face and neck are tensed up, his eyes either squeezed shut or bugging out... wrong, wrong, wrong. All that tension is the symptom of bad technique.

Besides that, the only way to achieve the tone he creates is by doing it wrong. If you do it right, it shouldn't sound like that. It's actually easy to tell the difference once you listen to various sources of harsh vocals long enough.

There's a section in our forums called The Jam Session. Merkaba is our vocals guru, and has councilled numerous board members in their learning to sing. He has experience with clean vocals, harsh, screaming, growling, the whole nine yards. He's well-versed in all the techniques and has more than ample experience. If you ask him, I'm sure he will explain it better than me.

Yimmypalooza
January 1st 2007


81 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

You may have seen videos like that but i've seen videos of him doing just the opposite. And you can't say its wrong because how do you know he doesn't want it to sound like that and thats why he's doing it?

MrKite
January 1st 2007


5020 Comments


Just ask that dude steer said. He'll explain it.

Steerpike
January 1st 2007


1861 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

And you can't say its wrong because how do you know he doesn't want it to sound like that and thats why he's doing it?


That's not the point. The point is that his technique fucking awful. No vocalist with real training would ever do that to themselves.

I don't care what sound you're trying to achieve, if you do it right, it shouldn't hurt. And I've spoken to people who have seen Heafy blow his voice out in the middle of a set and Corey had to take over vocal duties. If you know what you're doing, that never happens.

MrKite
January 1st 2007


5020 Comments


He just doesnt want to accept that someone he loikes is doing something wrong.This Message Edited On 01.01.07

Steerpike
January 1st 2007


1861 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

I admit I lost some of my respect for Jon Oliva of Savatage after I learned that most of his career was spent with bad breathing technique and he would always end the tour with his voice wrecked. I did appreciate that he recognized this flaw in himself and got a professional coach to teach him how to break his bad habits.

Yimmypalooza
January 1st 2007


81 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

MrKite that has nothing to do with it. I've heard of many good singers who blew out their voices just because they didn't take care of them. Besides it doesn't really matter now because unless you didn't know he doesn't scream anymore but i'm sure you have a problem with his singing technique too.

metallicaman8
January 1st 2007


4677 Comments


MrKite that has nothing to do with it. I've heard of many good singers who blew out their voices just because they didn't take care of them. Besides it doesn't really matter now because unless you didn't know he doesn't scream anymore but i'm sure you have a problem with his singing technique too.


Yeah, it's a cookie-cutter copy of James Hetfield. Don't get me wrong, I like Hetfield's voice. It's more the concept than anything that bothers me.

Steerpike
January 1st 2007


1861 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Actually, I do. Aside from the fact that I'll bet money he still hasn't gotten a professional voice coach, he sounds like James Hetfield more than ever. And Hetfield's voice is like ear gonorrhea for me. So I hope you can understand my vitriol.

Yimmypalooza
January 1st 2007


81 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Thats all anyone ever says. I really don't think he does but thats just the excuse for everyone to use as yet another reason to insult them. I've heard plenty of people say that he sounds like Hetfield but he can actually sing while Hetfield can't.

metallicaman8
January 1st 2007


4677 Comments


Thats all anyone ever says. I really don't think he does but thats just the excuse for everyone to use as yet another reason to insult them. I've heard plenty of people say that he sounds like Hetfield but he can actually sing while Hetfield can't.


You jackass, it says in your soundoff that he sounds like Hetfield. Anyways, Hetfield actually sings pretty well on Load and ReLoad.

Steerpike
January 1st 2007


1861 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Thats all anyone ever says. I really don't think he does but thats just the excuse for everyone to use as yet another reason to insult them.


There's a difference between an excuse and a reason.

I've heard plenty of people say that he sounds like Hetfield but he can actually sing while Hetfield can't.


Oh Jesus. I see this getting worse before it gets better.

Yimmypalooza
January 1st 2007


81 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

You're right and that is an excuse

metallicaman8
January 1st 2007


4677 Comments


No, it's not an excuse you feeble minded ignoramous, it's a reason. People don't like the album because he completely ripped off James Hetfield's vocal style, they don't use that fact as an excuse not to like it. No one needs an excuse not to like this album. There are so very, very many reasons to dislike it there's no reason to make more up.This Message Edited On 01.01.07

Steerpike
January 1st 2007


1861 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

No, for me it's a reason. His voice sucks, and I cannot support someone who deliberately ignores his own god awful technique. Heafy is in a position where he has absolutely no excuse for his shoddy vocal habits.

metallicaman8
January 1st 2007


4677 Comments


WE ARE THE FIRE


WO-O, WO-O

JumpTheF**kUp
January 2nd 2007


2722 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Why do Trivium fanboys still hang around? I thought we had purged them all.

Yazz_Flute
May 16th 2007


19174 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I know i've said this before, but this album is my guilty pleasure. I really don't see much wrong with it other than heafy's shitty screaming.



The crusade and ember to inferno i don't really care for, but i really like this album for some reason. I love the last two tracks, "drownded and torn asunder" and "pull harder." Some great metalcore there i have to admit.

Bfhurricane
May 16th 2007


6283 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Like Light to Flies is a definitive metalcore song. I also really enjoy When All Light Dies off of Ember to Inferno, that's probably my favorite Trivium song.



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