Green Day 21st Century Breakdown
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AggravatedYeti
May 12th 2009


7683 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

very well written review -- plus the album is balls. Nice one.

DaveyBoy
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May 12th 2009


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Haha. Croc has started a great debate again. I think part of his argument is longevity, which knocks some contenders out. And I am certain he isn't saying the best singular album.

To be honest, I haven't heard everything by Green Day, so can't really comment. While 'Stay What You Are' is a tremendous album, the rest of Saves The Day's discography is inconsistent, so I'd rule them out.

I haven't heard all of Blink 182's albums, but they'd be a contender. Of course, they're different types of pop-punk.

As for Alkaline Trio, I personally rate them very highly. If you count them as pop-punk, I'd say they are close to Green Day. They can be compared on many criteria to them and the only obvious one that they fail in is breaking through into the mainstream. But that does count for something in Green Day's favor I guess.

Yotimi
May 12th 2009


7666 Comments


^damn your logic. I guess you're right. Overall I'd say Blink are better than GD though.

Knott-
Emeritus
May 12th 2009


10260 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Tbh if Mayday Parade come out with a record which rivals A Lesson In Romantics they'll pretty much be my favourite pop-punk band. Davey's right, though... how much similarity really is there between In Defense Of The Genre and TOYPAJ? Reaaaaaally not much, but they are both pop-punk. Alk3 are a good band but seriously I don't think Green Day can come close to the title.



Really, it's probably Blink. Few bands have done so much for the popularity of the genre and still managed not to sell out (phrase is a stupid one but you get my gist).

DaveyBoy
Emeritus
May 12th 2009


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Dan(iel) Andriano is the guy you are trying to think of Benzum. His voice isn't all that great, but it does work well in conjunction with Matt's. I actually think their main strength is Dan's bass-playing.

Definitely a darker edge to Alk3 & that's probably the reason why they have never cracked the mainstream & maybe even why some people such as yourself don't listen to their albums often.

And they still deliver one of my favorite & fun lines ever: "They said we've had enough, please turn that f*cking radio off, there's nothing on the airwaves in the despair we feel".

gaslightanthem
May 12th 2009


5208 Comments


blink-182 rule, green day are okay but this record totally sux

alligator take your tongue from green days butt, scoop the shit from your eyes and ears and maybe you will see this. how you think this is a classic is beyond me.

StrizzMatik
May 12th 2009


4158 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

I don't get how everyone says it's catchy as hell and then gives the album a 2


Syphylis is catchy too. Does that make it good?



Catchiness does NOT make an album/song good. By example, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, Lady GaGa, Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus, and every disposable teen sensation all have ridiculously catchy songs. Are they all good bands/artists/songs? Hell no.

dub sean
May 12th 2009


1011 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Good review. The fact is that these awfully uninspired and unoriginal songs still get me singing along.

fromrows
May 12th 2009


461 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

I Honestly think this album is the lost link between Nimrod and Warning. Its just as good as could have been expected and even better than most people give it credit for. The songwriting, IMO, is way stronger that AI, in both dynamic and punch, and it does not drag out like some songs on AI. Its basicly a musical clone to AI, but with a few more nice twists here and there to make it more a sequal to AI than a copy of something old. Its bound to be loaded by anyone who though AI was to much to begin with, but I feel comfortable that this album in time will rank beside Nimrod in the Green Day discography as an album almost succeeding in trying everything at once, which makes it up to the individual if thats a good thing or not.



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Adam_Harrison9
May 12th 2009


21 Comments


I haven't heard all of Blink 182's albums, but they'd be a contender. Of course, they're different types of pop-punk.

What about the Offpsring?

Anyway, I'm not sure I could bring myself to listen to this album, nevermind all 18 tracks. I'll stick to Insomniac.

StrizzMatik
May 12th 2009


4158 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Then name a better one!


Hmmm... NOFX, Lagwagon, No Use For A Name, Alkaline Trio, Dillinger Four and Say Anything are all arguably or definitely better, and that's not even a complete list.



blink is great with their A-game but completely inconsistent otherwise. Cheshire and Enema were good, Dude Ranch was classic, s/t was good but not great, and TOYPAJ was a garbage retread of Enema. And in strict terms they most definitely did change their sound to appeal to the masses and that's blatantly obvious listening to EOTS. The Offspring? Maybe 14 years ago. Their last really great record was Americana and that had plenty of filler.

Yotimi
May 12th 2009


7666 Comments


The only pop/punk band I know of without a bad album is Park but nobody knows them here and Brand New. Blink was fairly consistent. Green Day has one great album with Dookie, Weezer had 2 with Blue and Pinkerton, Offspring had 2 with Smash and Ixnay, Say Anything has one with Is A Real Boy, Saves the Day has 2 with Stay what you are & In Reverie.

fromrows
May 12th 2009


461 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

This post has no other purpose, that me wanting to say that I completely agree with StrizzMatiks view here. I still really like the new record a lot, but these are some strongs points you put across. I would also add Set your goals, Rancid, Smoke or Fire, None More Black, Descendents, Strike Anywhere, Good Riddance and so on even though (beside Rancid) they all operate in a more hardcore-melodic sound, which means Propagandhi of course should have been mentioned as well! This Message Edited On 05.12.09

fromrows
May 12th 2009


461 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

And Bad Religon! No matter how you view their style or importance, they undoubtly influenced every single band mentioned so far! Its beyond understanding that their last three records havde been among the best they have ever done!

StrizzMatik
May 12th 2009


4158 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

On a side note, all the people who say Green Day always sucked and never wrote a good record - seriously talk to me when you weren't 3 when Dookie came out, since you'll never understand just how fucking huge that record was and how much it completely changed popular music at the time. Not to mention that Kerplunk!, Nimrod, and Insomniac are all quality records. Warning (even though people hate on it) was really good too. Disputing GD's cred as one of the pop-punk greats is simply fucking retarded since half the pop-punk bands around wouldn't exist without them.



Fromrows I wouldn't really put Propagandhi or BR in that league. They've had melodic sensibilities but are closer to punk than pop-punk IMO. Rancid def. belongs up there though (AOCTW, self-titled and Indestructible anyways).This Message Edited On 05.12.09

fromrows
May 12th 2009


461 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Yeah thats true! I would love to throw in Common Rider as well even though its way more ska-orientated, but fans of Green Day would undoubtly like them if they dont know them and of course Operation Ivy as well, but most would probably know them because of Knowledge.



StrizzMatik is just read your view on the new Nofx and again I completely agree! You should definitely do more reviews, and maybe of that record! Your have some quality points and you are definitely a skilled writer!

Knott-
Emeritus
May 12th 2009


10260 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

On a side note, all the people who say Green Day always sucked and never wrote a good record - seriously talk to me when you weren't 3 when Dookie came out, since you'll never understand just how fucking huge that record was and how much it completely changed popular music at the time. Not to mention that Kerplunk!, Nimrod, and Insomniac are all quality records. Warning (even though people hate on it) was really good too. Disputing GD's cred as one of the pop-punk greats is simply fucking retarded since half the pop-punk bands around wouldn't exist without them.




doesn't make this album any less boring.

Yotimi
May 12th 2009


7666 Comments


Yeah Dookie blew me away when it came out (probably the first album I actually truly loved) and Insomniac was pretty solid too. But everything since then has been pretty awful. So hating on them now is cool!

StrizzMatik
May 12th 2009


4158 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

doesn't make this album any less boring.


Agreed, but I wasn't talking about this or AI

Knott-
Emeritus
May 12th 2009


10260 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

nah i know, i just think some people are hesitant to break their own self-deception that green day are THEBESTTHINGEVAR shrugs



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