Tycho Awake
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anarchistfish
March 7th 2014


30340 Comments


Every (other) song on Dive felt like a worse version of Ascension

anarchistfish
March 7th 2014


30340 Comments


I get the feeling the same will probably be the case with this in the context of the title track

VheissuCrisis
Emeritus
March 7th 2014


1389 Comments


Really like your second paragraph here man, real nice.

Your second sentence reads a little awkwardly, specifically where you say 'it' after Fez. Really minor niggle though.

Hyperion1001
Emeritus
March 7th 2014


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Every (other) song on Dive felt like a worse version of Ascension


yeah this album is exactly the same, its like "wow haven't i heard this before only better?" for like every single track

Yuli
Emeritus
March 7th 2014


10767 Comments


Listening to this again and you guys are trippin. Bumping the rating because everything important in the world
depends on it.

and thanks Dan, i'll take a look into it!

Henri, your best bet is to listen to another tune off this album. I hear none of "Awake" in this one, "Dye" - another of
my favorites (that driving beat, man): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGi-ODUVFN8

paradox1216
March 7th 2014


730 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I don't like this as much as Dive, but it's still pretty amazing. Scott is amazing at creating soundscapes

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
March 7th 2014


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

nah bro, it's just that this can only really be said to be "pretty."



I hate pretty.

Sleaper
March 7th 2014


3480 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

imo dive shreds on this... but this albums still very cham like. my new word for CHILLED OUT JAM. its going to be a thing.





Drummerboy123
March 7th 2014


3118 Comments


I'm not even bothered that Tycho's music is repetitive. I just love the chilled out atmospheres he makes. Sooooo goooood!

clercqie
March 8th 2014


6525 Comments


Nice little review here, Jacob.

Just started listening to the stream and so far it's pretty inoffensive. Nothing groundbreaking indeed, but the sun is shining here so it's all good.

twlight
March 8th 2014


8853 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

it's all about the atmosphere and dream-like state of his music. it's not meant to be diverse, it's meant to be a continuous state of chilled consciousness. you guys are over thinking this album, i get that it's hard to get through an entire Tycho record but it some settings, there is no better soundtrack

twlight
March 8th 2014


8853 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

plus, this really isn't ALL more of the same, some of it is but there are some nice new ideas at work.

there is way more live instrumentation on this one and the synths and boards-of-canada-esque pads are

taking the back seat when compared to the guitar lines

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
March 8th 2014


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

argh that post makes me so angry but I'm on a comedown so don't want to overreact ):



For now: grrrr!

Yuli
Emeritus
March 8th 2014


10767 Comments


Jonny, no need to hold back! I'm interested to hear what you have to say.

anarchistfish
March 8th 2014


30340 Comments


Henri, your best bet is to listen to another tune off this album. I hear none of "Awake" in
this one, "Dye" - another of
my favorites (that driving beat, man): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGi-ODUVFN8

Yeah, it's pretty nice I guess. Helps that today's the sunniest day here in months. Like others have
said though, there's not much substance past the atmosphere. I love atmosphere but it's frustrating
when there's nothing much else. Makes it difficult to really get into the music.

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
March 8th 2014


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

Would first like to say sorry for the tone of this because I'm in a really bad mood.



The idea of dumbing down to enjoy music is something I find really offensive. I listen to a lot of ambient and "instrumental" music in general, and if there isn't anything to explore -no twists or ideas or anything, really- what the hell is the point in listening to it? The kind of chill-out music for no reason was explored by new-age and rightly laughed at by almost everyone.



Ambient and associated genres are almost always dependent on the listener. The kind of "show, don't tell" principle of instrumental music means it's up to us to pick out what we want it to mean. If I have to knock out a few braincells in order to not notice the lack of anything to find, I'd say that was a problem with the music.



Tycho's sunny day drive into the wilderness vibe is cool, but there's really not much else to it and while I'd be fine with a couple of tracks pushing the tried-and-tested it seems lazy to repeat the same image over and over again. Especially when there are artists who do the same thing so much better (BoC, obviously, Thrupence, even fucking Sun Glitters or Stumbleine if we want to open the flood gates to that whole ballpark)



As a counter-example, Borealis pushes for the "raver's enlightenment" experience in his last album, but instead of repeatedly showing us the same photo he chips away at the moment from different angles:



from when the chaos starts to make sense: https://soundcloud.com/origamisound/borealis-eye-blossom



to just pure bliss: https://soundcloud.com/origamisound/borealis-lover

Yuli
Emeritus
March 8th 2014


10767 Comments


Awesome post, Jonny. I can def see what you mean, and I'd agree w/ you that there's something disturbing about artists who hide, more or less, behind the label of "well, our music is just meant to chill to," or, in this case, fans of an artist who claim the same thing.

However, I don't think there's anything amiss about enjoying an artist like this. The important distinction to make- and one I make sure to illuminate in my review- is that music like this can only do so much for me. I can't get swept up in it like I can with other artists, but I can at least admire the things that do come to me with a record like this. You make an important point, and i hope others will take something meaningful from it instead of taking offense to it.

I also will say that this record feels to me as if it covers many different sonic palettes, but maybe that's something that comes with repeated listens- something that you, understandably, wouldn't want to undergo. While I agree that Tycho pushes a certain theme perhaps too far with his music on the whole, I disagree that this album is a blaring instance of that.

Kubrick
March 8th 2014


793 Comments


The idea of dumbing down to enjoy music is something I find really offensive. I listen to a lot of ambient and "instrumental" music in general, and if there isn't anything to explore -no twists or ideas or anything, really- what the hell is the point in listening to it? The kind of chill-out music for no reason was explored by new-age and rightly laughed at by almost everyone.


There is no such thing as "dumb" music. There is no such thing as "smart" music. Music cannot be inherently intelligent or stupid. Music isn't inherently anything at all other than a collection of vibrations in space that our brains happen to be able to interpret. If there's no one around to hear it, then music is inherently no different than wind through a forest. Any "value" of music is created ENTIRELY in the mind of the listener. Beethoven's 5th isn't inherently smarter or dumber than smashing a bunch of pots and pans together. Theoretically, banging pots and pans together can actually have more "value" than Beethoven's 5th if there's a person out there who has a stronger emotional response from the former. It's completely, 100% listener-dependent. There's no way it can be anything but.

So to say that Tycho's music is "dumbed down" and that new age music is invalid and laughed-at by everyone is a complete misunderstanding of musical value. That statement is really just an advertisement for your personal, unique, and entirely subjective interpretation of those styles masquerading as an objective statement. Disliking Tycho and other similar styles of music is 100% valid for you, but dismissing them as inferior, "dumbed down" forms of music just completely misses the point of music in general.

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
March 8th 2014


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

I don't understand Kubric, I was talking about it from the exact same perspective as you. Music being what we make of it and all that.



At the same time, music can't be 100% subjective because there wouldn't be any use for music in general! We'd just be happy with our pots and pans and never bother organising sounds into something our minds can easily latch onto. There needs to be substance for us to interpret without pure projection (:



The new age thing was something that came up when Mark Banning's (really, really good) Journey of Light was recently salvaged from the depths of some old collection and finally digitalised. The way it was sold was effectively "don't worry, it's not like the standard view of new-age." So yeah, there's plenty good in the genre but if that's how they sell it you can't tell me it's popular.

StrangerofSorts
Emeritus
March 8th 2014


2904 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5 | Sound Off

and you can still enjoy it Jacob (: (I mean anyone can enjoy what the fuck they like unless it involves oppressing others) but I'm just getting the feeling it's placed on a different scale to albums that don't shut their sights at "this is all we want to achieve". It's allowed for rather than considered- no thought for the lack of scope.



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