Paiste, Zildjian, Sabian???

carlofos · 10-21-2001, 02:22 AM

Hi, I am confused, I dont know wich is better.

Please tell me what is the difference you find between those brands, and which is better???

I have some zildjian and sabian, but I dont really know what makes the diference, I just know there are a lot of sub-series of each one, like the avedish from zildjian.

Paiste=korn d silveria
zildjian=limp biskit j otto
sabian= ???? (sorry but I dont remember who uses sabian)

What makes a hand hammered better?????

10-21-2001, 04:55 AM

Its all down to ure personal taste and budget. Get what u think sounds good for the money.

Btw Tommy Decker uses Sabian.

JoeyJordisonRulez · 10-21-2001, 06:09 AM

Yeah - Tommy Decker kicks ***!

10-21-2001, 08:49 AM

UFIP?

carlofos · 10-21-2001, 01:35 PM

What is UFIP?

I know its all about what my budget let me buy, but I really thing they sound the same, sabian or zildjian

What have you got??? splashes? crashes? what size ride?

I was about to buy a 13´ hi-hats, but I really dont know if the 14´have better sound, what size are yours???

Cloud · 10-21-2001, 01:42 PM

I've got "14 hi-hats.

My favorite brand of cymbals is "Istanbul", unfortunately for me, they are expensive and hard to find, so I have only one cymbal of this brand (the ride)

Unbeliever · 10-21-2001, 03:16 PM

Sabian are good.
they do great pack things in all their series which include hats, 1 crash and 1 ride in one box.
if your on a relatively small buget (altho not that small) get the pro sonix series. if u wanna go lower (altho i dont recomend it

) bet the B8 pro series.
if ur rich get HH, or HHX.
ive got pro sonix, and a tama rockstar custom kit, they sound pretty **** good.
16" crash, 18" crash, 14" hats, 20" ride (i think, its either 20 or 21" i can never remember

)
hope that helped

and anyway, i dont like the look of zildjian.
oh yeh, hand hammered (HH) are better because they sound alot nicer, and are made (yes you guessed it...) by hand! so the're all unique. the're also pretty **** expensive.
i think the 13" inch hats would have a higher pitch to them than the 14" ones.
and sabian are canadian. whether that is good or not is a matter for u to decide.
i reckon its good because....
they have canadians in canada.
well the cymbols are **** good anyway

SugarFreeGum · 10-22-2001, 12:41 AM

out of Sabian, Zildjian and Paiste, i prefer Paiste by a mile...

UFiP are awsome, but you pay for it, so if your on a budget..

10-22-2001, 01:22 PM

I use the following setup, and i love it.

All are Zildjian ZBT Plus:

14" Hats
16" crash
18" Rock crash
10"Splash
18" China.

all perform really well, and give a nice bright sound with quick decay. The china is a bit darker, which is to be expected really seen as it is a low pitch model.

10-23-2001, 08:27 AM

We have the Sabian B8 Pro Series. The hi hat & crash sound fine, but the the ride sounds like the lid to my stainless steel stew pot!

10-23-2001, 08:38 PM

I prefer playing Zildjian cymbals... out of all...
i picked Paiste over Sabian tho...

umm Chad SMith uses Sabian.....
Dave weckle uses Sabian......Mike portnoy......Terry bozzio..... umm that Pantera drumma... umm Vinnie Paul..???

Paiste is an excellent cymbals... great projection... great presence.. but not as smooth as Zildjians...

so i like Zildjian the best out of those 3 brands...

UFIP's are more expensive than Zildjian.... and it's hard to get ova here in Australia...... so yeh

fooman · 10-23-2001, 09:08 PM

i use sabian. I use AA's and they sound great. Specially my Crash/Ride and Chinese. I have a B8 ride, and its POOP!!! No versitality in it. One sound and thats IT!! Dont go for B8's if u choose sabian. Sabian is very pleasin to the budget also.

However, about 8 mths ago I looked into buying paiste. This was because for about 5 years Ive LOVED the sound of Dave SIlveria's cymbals, specially his hats. They sound so nice!! The problem in Canada is, Paiste doesnt stock much over here.

DonkeyLips1 · 10-23-2001, 09:51 PM

i have a paiste 302 16" crash, and pearl cx300 14" hats, i am not an experienced drummer at all, but i do think my crash sounds excellent, but my hats could be better

10-23-2001, 10:36 PM

o yeah.
Joey Jordison uses Paiste too and his set sounds awesome !!!!! so bright and projected

SugarFreeGum · 10-24-2001, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IvanO
I prefer playing Zildjian cymbals... out of all...
i picked Paiste over Sabian tho...

umm Chad SMith uses Sabian.....
Dave weckle uses Sabian......Mike portnoy......Terry bozzio..... umm that Pantera drumma... umm Vinnie Paul..???

Paiste is an excellent cymbals... great projection... great presence.. but not as smooth as Zildjians...

so i like Zildjian the best out of those 3 brands...

UFIP's are more expensive than Zildjian.... and it's hard to get ova here in Australia...... so yeh

hey where abouts in Aus are you??

10-24-2001, 05:14 AM

I;m in Sydney...
how bout u ?

SugarFreeGum · 10-24-2001, 06:14 AM

melb...

the place i get lessons sells UFiP, and i get student prices :P

x253viper · 10-24-2001, 03:38 PM

i think zildjian r the best. i have a 16" crash, 18 crash, 14' hi hats, 20" ride, 4" splash, 6" splash, and a 19" china.

I have a tama star classic performer custom the set is ****ing amazing i love it and the cymbals r all avedis (A series) and they fit right together!

10-24-2001, 04:24 PM

x253viper.... cool set u got there !!!

SugarFreeGum... umm i just found out today... in one of the drumstore in Sydney... they starting to sell UFIP cymbals... i might check it out...

I got student prices too at the place where i have my lessons !! i think everyone's giving the student price for their students aye ??

10-24-2001, 04:41 PM

OK.. here it is... if u want a crash or hi hat or ride.. u cant get better than zildjian!
get 14"" hi hat and a 18" a custom hard rock crash
and perhaps a 21" dark ride... and u have the best cybals around
if u need a china go with paiste, it sounds great!
and splashed trashes and the rest from paiste are great..
but.. if your on a tight budget
SABIAN all the way.. theyre "pack" prices are unbeatable..
but zildjian is considered "the agressive rockers" cymbals

10-21-2001, 02:22 AM	#1
carlofos Hard core drummer Join Date: May 2001 Location: México Posts: 25	Paiste, Zildjian, Sabian??? Hi, I am confused, I dont know wich is better. Please tell me what is the difference you find between those brands, and which is better??? I have some zildjian and sabian, but I dont really know what makes the diference, I just know there are a lot of sub-series of each one, like the avedish from zildjian. Paiste=korn d silveria zildjian=limp biskit j otto sabian= ???? (sorry but I dont remember who uses sabian) What makes a hand hammered better?????

10-21-2001, 03:16 PM	#7
Unbeliever mx throbbing member Join Date: May 2001 Location: UK Posts: 670	SABIAN ARE BEST Sabian are good. they do great pack things in all their series which include hats, 1 crash and 1 ride in one box. if your on a relatively small buget (altho not that small) get the pro sonix series. if u wanna go lower (altho i dont recomend it ) bet the B8 pro series. if ur rich get HH, or HHX. ive got pro sonix, and a tama rockstar custom kit, they sound pretty ** good. 16" crash, 18" crash, 14" hats, 20" ride (i think, its either 20 or 21" i can never remember ) hope that helped and anyway, i dont like the look of zildjian. oh yeh, hand hammered (HH) are better because they sound alot nicer, and are made (yes you guessed it...) by hand! so the're all unique. the're also pretty expensive. i think the 13" inch hats would have a higher pitch to them than the 14" ones. and sabian are canadian. whether that is good or not is a matter for u to decide. i reckon its good because.... they have canadians in canada. well the cymbols are ** good anyway

10-24-2001, 03:38 PM	#18
x253viper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pa, USA Posts: 892	Zildjian are the best i think zildjian r the best. i have a 16" crash, 18 crash, 14' hi hats, 20" ride, 4" splash, 6" splash, and a 19" china. I have a tama star classic performer custom the set is ****ing amazing i love it and the cymbals r all avedis (A series) and they fit right together!

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

10-21-2001, 04:55 AM	#2
Beatmeister Guest Posts: n/a	Its all down to ure personal taste and budget. Get what u think sounds good for the money. Btw Tommy Decker uses Sabian.

10-21-2001, 06:09 AM	#3
JoeyJordisonRulez Tama/Zildjian Fan Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,221	Yeah - Tommy Decker kicks ***!

10-21-2001, 01:35 PM	#5
carlofos Hard core drummer Join Date: May 2001 Location: México Posts: 25	What is UFIP? I know its all about what my budget let me buy, but I really thing they sound the same, sabian or zildjian What have you got??? splashes? crashes? what size ride? I was about to buy a 13´ hi-hats, but I really dont know if the 14´have better sound, what size are yours???

10-21-2001, 01:42 PM	#6
Cloud Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 256	I've got "14 hi-hats. My favorite brand of cymbals is "Istanbul", unfortunately for me, they are expensive and hard to find, so I have only one cymbal of this brand (the ride)

10-22-2001, 12:41 AM	#8
SugarFreeGum Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 436	out of Sabian, Zildjian and Paiste, i prefer Paiste by a mile... UFiP are awsome, but you pay for it, so if your on a budget..

10-22-2001, 01:22 PM	#9
Beatmeister Guest Posts: n/a	I use the following setup, and i love it. All are Zildjian ZBT Plus: 14" Hats 16" crash 18" Rock crash 10"Splash 18" China. all perform really well, and give a nice bright sound with quick decay. The china is a bit darker, which is to be expected really seen as it is a low pitch model.

10-23-2001, 08:27 AM	#10
BahamaMama Guest Posts: n/a	We have the Sabian B8 Pro Series. The hi hat & crash sound fine, but the the ride sounds like the lid to my stainless steel stew pot!

10-23-2001, 08:38 PM	#11
IvanO Guest Posts: n/a	I prefer playing Zildjian cymbals... out of all... i picked Paiste over Sabian tho... umm Chad SMith uses Sabian..... Dave weckle uses Sabian......Mike portnoy......Terry bozzio..... umm that Pantera drumma... umm Vinnie Paul..??? Paiste is an excellent cymbals... great projection... great presence.. but not as smooth as Zildjians... so i like Zildjian the best out of those 3 brands... UFIP's are more expensive than Zildjian.... and it's hard to get ova here in Australia...... so yeh

10-23-2001, 09:08 PM	#12
fooman Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 981	i use sabian. I use AA's and they sound great. Specially my Crash/Ride and Chinese. I have a B8 ride, and its POOP!!! No versitality in it. One sound and thats IT!! Dont go for B8's if u choose sabian. Sabian is very pleasin to the budget also. However, about 8 mths ago I looked into buying paiste. This was because for about 5 years Ive LOVED the sound of Dave SIlveria's cymbals, specially his hats. They sound so nice!! The problem in Canada is, Paiste doesnt stock much over here.

10-23-2001, 09:51 PM	#13
DonkeyLips1 I need to Practice More Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Memphis Posts: 368	i have a paiste 302 16" crash, and pearl cx300 14" hats, i am not an experienced drummer at all, but i do think my crash sounds excellent, but my hats could be better

10-23-2001, 10:36 PM	#14
IvanO Guest Posts: n/a	o yeah. Joey Jordison uses Paiste too and his set sounds awesome !!!!! so bright and projected

10-24-2001, 05:14 AM	#16
IvanO Guest Posts: n/a	I;m in Sydney... how bout u ?

10-24-2001, 06:14 AM	#17
SugarFreeGum Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 436	melb... the place i get lessons sells UFiP, and i get student prices :P

10-24-2001, 04:24 PM	#19
IvanO Guest Posts: n/a	x253viper.... cool set u got there !!! SugarFreeGum... umm i just found out today... in one of the drumstore in Sydney... they starting to sell UFIP cymbals... i might check it out... I got student prices too at the place where i have my lessons !! i think everyone's giving the student price for their students aye ??

10-24-2001, 04:41 PM	#20
SYSTeM oF a DRuM Guest Posts: n/a	OK.. here it is... if u want a crash or hi hat or ride.. u cant get better than zildjian! get 14"" hi hat and a 18" a custom hard rock crash and perhaps a 21" dark ride... and u have the best cybals around if u need a china go with paiste, it sounds great! and splashed trashes and the rest from paiste are great.. but.. if your on a tight budget SABIAN all the way.. theyre "pack" prices are unbeatable.. but zildjian is considered "the agressive rockers" cymbals