Hendoi
11.27.22 | probably 1996 |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | 1996 isn't even this century... I'm convinced you're a troll lmao |
Hendoi
11.27.22 | oh ok I must've misread it. |
Hendoi
11.27.22 | whatever year mbdtf came out thats the best |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | "thats the best"
...the list is supposed to be about the worst year not the best |
CugnoBrasso
11.27.22 | Hendoi is nailing it |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | Cugno Hendoi is making me lose brain cells. He did this on one of my other lists too. There is absolutely no way he isn't a troll ffs. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | Cimnele I thought it was just me who for some reason couldn't find any great albums from 2019, but then Johnny corroborated my take on the year. It's baffling to me how there is absolutely nothing even remotely worthwhile from the year. |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | 2018. Definitively.
1. Political rock music went straight to hell in the wake of Donald Trump (Machine Head's Catharsis, Ministry's AmeriKKKant, Bad Religion's "The Kids are Alt-Right" and Otep's Kult 45 to name a few)
2. Trap music began to fall off quite badly in quality at this point, plus Lil Xan's "Total Xanarchy" should argue my point enough.
3. The onset of "spiritcore" music (basically shameless ripoffs of Bring Me The Horizon's That's The Spirit) which basically ruined most of metalcore, to this day (BFMV's Gravity, Atreyu's In Our Wake, etc). The problem isn't a change of sound, but rather a lack of good ambition, song writing or energy.
4. The beginning of the declines of both Drake (Scorpion) and Kayne West (Ye)
5. XXXTentacion's death, which forever changed my relationship with rap music, and the onset of bad posthumous albums (with Skins). Also Mac Miller's death. (RIP both)
6. I sorta feel like this was the year where pop music evolved into the TikTok format it now is, which often feels incredibly repetitious and monotonous.
Obviously there were some good albums to come from 2018 but it just seems to begin to terribly fall off from this point onward. So then and now, 2018 sucked the most.
I don't have a favourite album from that year, since whatever albums I used to like I have realised are complete dogshit in retrospect, but if only for nostalgia purposes EXCLUSIVELY, it would be Beerbongs & Bentleys by Post Malone. (6.25/10) |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | STIGMATIZED Thank you for such a thorough and well explained answer. I definitely needed that after the headache Hendoi gave me lol |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | you're welcomed but wouldnt a block of text be more headache inducing than a one liner |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | Not if it's an interesting read that perfectly answers what I was asking. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | Stigmatized speaks a lot of truth (though I do love Kanye and Kid Cudi's Kids See Ghosts album from that year). That said, because Stigmatized basically used all of the points I could have made about 2018, I'll come up with my own: 2014.
Just look at the songs that spent time at number one on the Hot 100 that year: Eminem's "The Monster," Pitbull's "Timber," Katy Perry's "Dark Horse," Pharrell's "Happy," John Legend's "All of Me," Iggy Azalea's "Fancy," MAGIC!'s "Rude," Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off" and "Blank Space," and Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass."
I don't hate all of those songs (in fact, I love "The Monster," and "All of Me" is alright, too), but so much of what made up the pop charts that year was either dull or annoying to my ears, a far cry from years earlier in the decade like 2011 and 2012, where, even though there were several genuine stinkers to reach huge chart success, at least there was often something uniquely memorable about them (even if what was memorable was just flat out irritating -- though perhaps that comes from the fact that I was graduating high school and moving on to college in 2011-2012, whereas in 2014 I was beginning my final year of college). Regardless, in 2014, it felt like any sugary magic that was once present in Billboard was beginning to get sucked away, and I think people who bought in may have started to get sick of this too, seeing as how there were a lot of big hits in 2015 and 2016 that were more slow or midtempo, as opposed to being hooky, upbeat dancepop songs.
At least I had Kendrick Lamar around this time to help me through it all... |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | Something I didn't consider when making this list is the different ways people view a year as being "bad" for music. For me, a good year is one that has a lot of music I love and a bad year simply means lacking music I really like. I don't really consider any bad stuff that releases in a year against the year itself cause, well, every year has plenty of stuff I dislike. But it doesn't matter since I'm never gonna listen to it lol. I also don't consider top charts cause I usually don't care for anything on them no matter the year lmao. It is very thought provoking to see other people's viewpoints on the topic though. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | AsleepInTheBack that's cool and all, but what was the worst year? |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | JKing92: Kids See Ghosts > Ye. Definitely. But it's not a true "Kanye" album soo
Also your points about 2015 and 2016 are accurate. I still have nostalgia for some 2010-2014 pop music stuff but you're definitely right. I think there's still a "camp" quality to a large portion of older pop music, something which has given it some replay value, though that's been lost.
Personally my musical "golden age" seems to cover the period of around 1993 to 2005 (and obviously some outside of that). Most of my CDs in my collection are in that range. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | JKing92 Do you have an AOTY from 2014 so I can yours to the list? |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | Funnily enough JKing, I think 2014 might be my top year for music of the 2010s. It has my album of the decade and one of my other favorites of all time lol.
Edit: Nvm 2011 is the best of the 2010s |
JKing92
11.27.22 | Interesting about your last point, Stigmatized. A lot of the albums in my collection seem to span that range too (I think 1994 is probably the year I have the most albums from, given that it is my favorite music year ever). As someone who was born in 1992, bought his first CD in 2004 (that was Green Day's American Idiot, though the first CD my parents bought for me was Smash Mouth's Astro Lounge back in 1999 for my birthday), and primarily bought CDs between 2006 and 2008 or so (it kind of slowed down as I got deeper into high school, though I did occasionally buy albums I heard and really enjoyed afterwards too, like when I got Green Day's 21st Century Breakdown on release day in 2009 or My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy just before my 2010 Christmas break), I think the fact that most of my albums come from that time period kind of comes with the territory for someone like me.
Onto your other point, I think with quite a bit of pop music, the older it gets, the more I grow to respect it (for example, I remember being really annoyed with the omnipresence of Katy Perry when I was in my first half of high school, though I do admit that the singles from Teenage Dream, though they didn't turn me into a superfan, gave me a certain respect for what she did, with tracks like "California Gurls" and "Last Friday Night" being pretty infectious in their own right). While there are other examples of pop music I will never, EVER, be nostalgic for in any way (as someone who was in middle school when they were hit songs, you couldn't pay me to listen to 50 Cent's "Candy Shop" or the Black Eyed Peas' "My Humps," for instance, while the brief chart reign of LMFAO and Pitbull when I was first starting college continues to make me wince over ten years later), there is quite a bit of stuff from the period when I was in middle and high school (2003-2011, to be exact) that does make me fondly remember my formative years (Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Lil Jon, Rihanna, etc).
Sorry for the ramble, but I definitely have a lot of fun being nostalgic, as you can see! 😄 |
JKing92
11.27.22 | And to answer Scornfyre: my AOTY from 2014 is definitely Run the Jewels 2. Feel free to add me to the list. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | When it comes to the best music year of the 2010s, though (since you bring up 2011 as your favorite), I think I'd go with 2016, myself. I remember finding a lot to enjoy that year. |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | Blimey, where do you start?
The problem presents itself in the ‘scene’ being killed off, the internet making music a commodity and live venues being advertising establishments with over the top health and safety and wankers with phones.
People were so desperate to find the ‘next big thing’ they were unwilling to comprehend a reality where it had already been and gone.
What was now offered was diluted rehashes of what had come before and presented in a way which all seemed so desperate.
Nu-Metal, ‘emo’ ‘grime’ all absolute fucking shit with fuck all redeeming value.
It all contributed to the erosion of the magic and what makes music a powerful force when it comes to being part of a wider group or appreciating it as an individual.
The rot had well and truly set in by 2008
|
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | Y'all are making me feel like a simpleton.
"Me like this year cause has much good stuff."
"Me no like this year cause no has any good stuff."
|
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | I was born in 2003 but I grew to resent modern music in 2018, and started looking backwards. The CD buying came initially from my fear that my dad would delete my Spotify playlist, though nowadays I get them because of liner notes, albums not being on spotify over in the UK (Plexi's Cheer Up; god damnit) and because its nicer to listen to CDs rather than through headphones.
Just checked, and most of what I have comes from 1994, 1997, 1999 and 2001. |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | 1997 was a great year. The last genuinely amazing year. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | LOL |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | 1997 was the last great year for alternative metal; Handsome's self-titled album, Human Waste Project's E-Lux, Snot's Get Some, Deftones Around the Fur (sigh, yes) and Tura Satana's Relief Through Release are gems. And hell they didn't even tune lower than fucking Drop D-flat.
After that year, with the rise of Coal Chamber, the genre died. Not because they tuned to drop-A lol but just the creativity began to lack.
People don't know how to convincingly be edgy. Angst is fine in moderation but not when you're faking it just to look "hard". (and yes! overall, all three "Emo" waves are better than all three nu metal waves) |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | Three separate ‘emo’ waves and three nu metal waves says it all |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | JesperL: you're four and this is deep
Look lol i know that definitely sounds like the "im born in the wrong generation" shtick but seriously i have tried with newer metal and rock and I just prefer the production style lol im not asking to be born in 1972 lol
also sorry the waves is just my autistic brain liking to organise things for no reason lol |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | No probs rainman |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | sigh
no |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | "After that year, with the rise of Coal Chamber, the genre died."
Literally have never heard of Coal Chamber before. From my perspective alt metal certainly didn't die in the 2000s. It just got flooded with a bunch of bland mediocre nu metal bands. There was still a lot of good, "mainstream" stuff there, just commingled in the mix. To me a genre doesn't die until there is nothing good left in it of note. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | Frankly, in my opinion, a genre doesn't die, period. More likely, whoever's saying that a genre died just got bored of where that style was going, and left it behind. I don't see anything wrong with that (I stopped listening to new rock music as regularly as I once did around the time I graduated high school or so, and a lot of the new music I've dug since then has been hip-hop), but saying that it "died" just strikes me as ridiculous. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | JKing I agree with that viewpoint to an extent. I think a genre can be considered dead when there is basically nothing being made in that genre (and the little that is being made isn't worthwhile or interesting). Or if a genre is completely unrecognizable from it's original state (the original state would be considered dead). However, genres that fit that bill are few and far between. Mostly really old, outdated genres. However, those dead genres usually have birthed other genres that aren't dead, so the original genre would still be alive in a sense. Just in a new form. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | If any of that makes sense. I need sleep. Gn |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | My bad!! i don't mean "dead" in that sense. I usually use "dead" in terms of wider popularity/recognition and such; its perception. Of course alternative metal didn't die, it just got usurped unfairly by bad nu metal. Most of those alternative metal acts I mentioned were largely commercial failures. Things get submerged and forgotten but no, they don't "die".
Hell, as much as I dislike "spiritcore" I don't think metalcore is dead or anything because there still exists good. like what Scornfyre said; its about finding what is good. And I use Coal Chamber as the sorta beginning of decline, since it proved that anything of any quality in nu metal could be successful. That doesn't mean nu metal or alt metal "died" because of it, since that actually opens some doors to good stuff too. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | I definitely get what you mean in many respects, Scornfyre, though I'd disagree with this: "and the little that is being made isn't worthwhile or interesting."
Ultimately, what qualifies as "worthwhile" and "interesting" is ultimately in the eye of the beholder. For example, Zak talks above me about how much he hates nu metal music. Personally, I rather prefer nu metal to thrash metal (not to mention the NWOBHM), and would argue that metal as a whole is most certainly not dead, despite my lack of interest in its iterations beginning with the NWOAHM. Neither one of us is right about the quality of the genres, given that music is ultimately subjective -- however, the genre is definitely not dead, something I will objectively argue for and stand by.
I can't say I disagree with you too much outside of that, though. I'd argue that, say, the classical music pioneered by Bach and Beethoven hundreds of years ago could discernibly qualify as a "dead genre," since a lot of the work of artists like, say, Philip Glass -- "neoclassical" musicians who are open about the influence they take from the likes of the aforementioned Bach and Beethoven -- definitely comes from a different narrative than the music that the most well-known composers of the classical era pioneered, providing an unmistakably modern update on that sound. But as you point out, this sort of thing is the exception to the rule, and it is alive to a certain extent. Albeit through a new sound that comes from a different starting point. |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | "if you zero in on the way that online dissemination has diluted the material impact of '90s phenomena without picking up a sensitivity for the kind of voices and styles that have grown out of online spaces, you're destined to a world of diminishing returns etcetc."
please elaborate |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | "Ultimately, what qualifies as "worthwhile" and "interesting" is ultimately in the eye of the beholder."
I was afraid of that very point being misinterpreted when writing it. I didn't know the tight words to use. I still don't. "Worthwhile" and "interesting" were definitely not the right ones though. As a really shitty example of what I meant, let's say the only thing being done in a once popular genre is a few unknown bands making completely derivative, less-than-ammature stuff. Then the genre, despite having music technically being made, is still dead since nothing "tangible" is being done with it. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | "For example, Zak talks above me about how much he hates nu metal music. Personally, I rather prefer nu metal to thrash metal (not to mention the NWOBHM), and would argue that metal as a whole is most certainly not dead, despite my lack of interest in its iterations beginning with the NWOAHM. Neither one of us is right about the quality of the genres, given that music is ultimately subjective -- however, the genre is definitely not dead, something I will objectively argue for and stand by."
Even for my original, poorly worded point these examples still wouldn't qualify. I was strictly referring to genres with little to no fanbase left for current stuff in it. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | "As for 2014, lol dig deeper casul"
Frrr. Two of my favorite albums of all time are from 2014. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | Johnny, I'm not saying that people don't have the right to declare individual genres a "rancid dearth" of all of those qualities (they very much do, and I'm sure there are genres that fit that bill for me personally). I just find that the use of "[insert genre here] is dead" is often a foolish argument. In my view, just say "[insert genre here] sucks" and move on. I might not necessarily agree, but I find it to be a much more constructive way of going about it then declaring it "dead," as if a style of music can die as easily as a human being.
This isn't about disliking genres. This is about declaring genres "dead" out of closed-mindedness. I don't care how they feel about the genres personally, the focal point here is not about opinions. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | "Even for my original, poorly worded point these examples still wouldn't qualify. I was strictly referring to genres with little to no fanbase left for current stuff in it."
I concede the point. Looking back, that wasn't a particularly good example on my part. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | "I think any decent take on what makes a duff year has to balance a whole range of perspectives and have at least some measure of sympathetic affinity for whatever styles were emergent or dominant at the time (preferably from a mix of countries and cultures)...which is why 2019 really was such a bloody disaster. Moderate to major slump on every front I've turned to, kill that year with fire and wipe it from the history books"
I wholeheartedly agree with this viewpoint. I didn't understand the sentiments shared above of "the top charts were bad so the year is bad" or "these genres had bad stuff so the year is bad." Granted any way of looking at a year being good or bad is inherently subjective since it is always based on musical opinion, but I don't see the point in deeming a year as bad from it's negative attributes. A year should be deemed bad from it's lack of positive attributes. My take on what makes a bad year is still also very flawed since I'm very picky and only look at the genres I care about. But your way of looking at it is about as objective as one can be in this highly opinion based manner. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | I still don't believe that many of the factors for which a genre is declared "dead" are particularly valid. Many (though not all, admittedly) of the genres I've seen called "dead" are still active styles with a considerable number of bands forming within them, they just aren't as commercially viable as they were at one time.
At least, this is how I see it, for the most part. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | That's cause when most people say a genre is dead they don't actually know wtf they are talking about. For example, most morons in mainstream media say rock is dead, which is a fucking laughable statement.
There are very, very few genres that are actually dead, and they are very old ones. Can I list any off the top of my head? Fuck no. But I digress. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | On that note uh... I'm just gonna let Johnny make all the arguments. I agree with pretty much everything he is saying, except he explains it all in a much more clear and concise manner than I ever could |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | PSHHHHHHHHH YR KILLING ME JOHNNY
Hell, from what I've seen, I completely disagree with that point. During several of many dumb research dives into the wayback machine of 1990s and 2000s bands, there's definitely differences in the ways that artists and fans communicated with each other, whether it be MySpace, vBulletin or fucking fanlistings; but the differences between the bands that attained EXTREMELY cult fanbases (i.e. the Society of Modern Heretics for theSTART) to the ones that didn't is that the former (referring to the artist) ensured they had some sort of direct engagement with their fans, or lack thereof (given you're established enough), and either way being engaging with the way you present yourself. Surprisingly, 1990s/2000s forums are WAY nicer and tamer than the stuff you'd get these days, but either way we have to move on. And I accept that completely.
I think that with the reduction of "closed platforms" (i.e. forums, vBulletin) for fanbases during the 2000s and the migration to platforms such as Instagram and TikTok that sort of "cult-ness" that a lot of 1990s and 2000s bands have/had cannot be cultivated in the same way, and I personally think artists have to be more image-based and hit-based, than art-based, in order to properly grow a fanbase. Radio doesn't work anymore like it used to. Not that that is a problem.
When people look at things like Wikipedia and whatnot and see that "oh, they made good music and got big", that is never the case; for example, (source: Sellout: The Major Label Feeding Frenzy..) around the time the band was releasing their major label debut in 2004, My Chemical Romance's label, Reprise Records, heavily ensured that the band would build a strong fanbase on the internet, MySpace and beyond through online promo, which has thus transformed them retrospectively into one of the most well-known rock groups of the 2000s and beyond. I personally don't think something like that is as achievable now without it being obvious, such as with GAYLE's "abcdefu", whose conception was revealed to be a setup by Atlantic Records to mask genuine song creation. It often feels like the only reason I still hear about big mainstream acts i.e. Drake was because thet just reel in hit singles after hit; when you don't get a hit, or you don't roll with the programme, you can fall off the face of the earth in a scary way, like with Bebe Rexha; I knew her from some hit singles in 2018, but hell even I didn't know they had a new album in 2021 until really recently! (not because I'm a hermit) |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | So yeah. People don't understand what it takes to really cultivate that huge success that bands like Oasis and Arctic Monkeys have; drive and effort. You have to slog it out hard. Not everyone gets to be an industry plant, y'know. The only reason no one has heard your band is because your promo is shit, not because you don't have Spotify or a TikTok account (though those do substantially help you).
Aka; western bands should stop thinking that using social media for promo and yourself is "cringe" |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | Also, hot take: if you think your genre is dead, do something about it you jackass. make music that isn't. Fix the problem!!! I am writing music too y'know, and then i'll see if i can get a cool style of music popular. its that mentality. not a 52 year old complaining about the "youth of today" listening to rap (a very popular scapegoat for many youtube channels which say "rock is dead"). The two can coexist, and its up to you to make it good. |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | Hmmmm |
neekafat
11.27.22 | Old man yells at cloud |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | It’s a fucking shit cloud, it can fuck off |
JKing92
11.27.22 | Sorry, Zak:
Old man yells at cloud [2] |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | I think STIGMATIZED is incorrectly conflating "not popular" and "dead." |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | Naive slags who know nothing, chat rubbish [1] |
JKing92
11.27.22 | OK boomer |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | scornfire: i said that earlier |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | Must have missed it. This chat is basically one big wall of text that has gone completely off the rails lol |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | Boomer walks across a field to watch Zeppelin smash out Dazed and Confused having just hung out the back of a bird in the car park.
Kids today walking into the Budweiser sponsored ‘amphitheater’ to watch the third wave of ‘emo’ having sued the security for assuming their gender during the search at the gate.
I’ll take the boomer life. |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | jesus christ you really did take onto that final comment didnt you |
JKing92
11.27.22 | As a 30-year-old, I'd much rather take that second option, Zak. I'd rather be who I am now, as a millennial who welcomes the world continuing to change as I get older, than some Trump-loving, boomer Luddite who whinges on about how "things were so much better back in my day."
This world may be far from perfect, but I certainly prefer it the way I live, since I'm a lot luckier to have come out as bisexual as a teenager in the 2000s than I would have ever in the '70s (let alone the '60s). Oh, the joys of social progression... |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | dear zakalwe
bad take
from STIGMATIZED |
STIGMATIZED
11.27.22 | i didnt do nothing i swear |
Snake.
11.27.22 | "OK boomer"
says the npc type who has literally the most boomer ass music taste on this site |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | I completely agree |
Snake.
11.27.22 | “Stigmatized speaks a lot of truth (though I do love Kanye and Kid Cudi's Kids See Ghosts album from that year). That said, because Stigmatized basically used all of the points I could have made about 2018, I'll come up with my own: 2014.
Just look at the songs that spent time at number one on the Hot 100 that year: Eminem's "The Monster," Pitbull's "Timber," Katy Perry's "Dark Horse," Pharrell's "Happy," John Legend's "All of Me," Iggy Azalea's "Fancy," MAGIC!'s "Rude," Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off" and "Blank Space," and Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass."“
TIL the only way to judge a year based off music is by reading the billboard top 10 |
JKing92
11.27.22 | People actually still use "NPC" unironically? 😂 |
YoYoMancuso
11.27.22 | 1915 had some really shitty ragtime releases |
Relinquished
11.27.22 | idk I wanna say 2010 or 2011
but i’m basing that on remembering (probably poorly) of not enough notable metal releases (not saying there weren’t but not enough as other years |
Demon of the Fall
11.27.22 | 2020 seems like the obvious choice, but honestly this is dependent on how much you were into / attentive during any time period
I can’t say that every year received the same attention |
JKing92
11.27.22 | I think 2020, as shitty of a year as it naturally was for all of us, was actually one of the best music years of this century so far. Future Nostalgia, Run the Jewels 4, Ohms... a lot of damn good stuff came out that year. |
SitarHero
11.27.22 | 2012 was a good year for music. So was 2014 and 2016. And 2019. Actually every year is a good year for music if you're not an irascible cunt. |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | 2016 was definitely the best. |
JKing92
11.27.22 | Now that I might agree on. |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | Ha
Good lad |
JKing92
11.27.22 | Silver linings are always good, in my book. |
Demon of the Fall
11.27.22 | zak should have at least 20+ years on my wife
I think they’re roughly the same age, which is a scary thought |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | 42yrs old with the joie de veivre of a 22yr old?
Pass me the pills I’m doing the lot |
Demon of the Fall
11.27.22 | No I think she’s appropriately early 40s
You just sound like an old man yelling at a cloud |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | That cloud fucks me right off. Gives me chest pains just thinking of the fucker. Smarmy Cumulus floating about taking the piss. Hate it. |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | "Actually every year is a good year for music if you're not an irascible cunt."
I DARE you, give Johnny and I an 8/10 of higher album from 2019 |
Parallels
11.27.22 | >1996
that was definately a swipe at Failure |
Scornfyre
11.27.22 | ">1996
that was definately a swipe at Failure"
Oh definitely. That's why I said they had to be a troll. They also said whatever year had MBDTF is the best probably cause I have it at a 1 (rightfully so I might add). |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | Comment #100. Who would've thought this would be my first list to reach 100. |
hesperus
11.28.22 | Probably 2020. My favorite album from the year is Devouring Ruin by Wake, and I also really dug the Ulcerate album from that year, but beyond that there was very little that rose above the level of "good enough to revisit regularly." Plenty of stuff AT that level, but very little above it. |
Donchivo
11.28.22 | Completely disagree on 2019.
Yugen Blakrok (top 3 rap album of the decade)
Ezra Collective
Syzygyx
Blood Incantation (top 5 death metal of the decade)
Tool
Motorpsycho
Was a great year IMO |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | Motorpsycho releases a pretty good album literally every fucking year so that doesn't really count as something exclusive to 2019. |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | And as someone who doesn't like Tool to begin with, that Tool album was even more of a snoozefest than the rest of their discography. A complete disappointment, especially considering the 13 year album gap. |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | Never heard of Syzygyx, but I'll try them out rn.
Hip hop and death metal are in my bottom 5 genres though so. |
SitarHero
11.28.22 | Re 2019:
Moon Tooth - Crux
Johnny Booth - Firsthand Accounts
FKA Twigs - Magdalene
Wilderun - Veil of Imagination
Devin Townsend - Empath
He Is Legend - White Bat
Thank You Scientist - Terraformer
Thornhill - The Dark Pool
Richard Henshall - The Cocoon
Cara Neir and Fall of Rauras, which I can't personally stand but everyone else on here was jizzing all over.
Etc. |
Sinternet
11.28.22 | no such thing as a bad year |
Kompys2000
11.28.22 | No such thing as a bad year [2] but if we have to pick a worst then 2002 is a strong contender in my eyes, kind of an off year for a lot of big names and of course you've got the Clear Channel memorandum which kinda sanctified the anti-intellectual wave of the bush years |
MoM
11.28.22 | 2020 solely because MF Doom died |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | 2002 was a great year. At least for the music I like. |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | "Thank You Scientist - Terraformer"
Terraformer was one of the best things that year, and it's only a 6.75/10 for me... |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | Ok I'm relistening to that TYS album. It's much better than I originally gave it credit for. 7.75/10. I also realized Glass Beach was 2019 which has a few songs I've had on repeat for a while. So 2019 is slightly better than I thought. Still the worst year by a wide margin cause still nothing above an 8. |
SitarHero
11.28.22 | Looks like you joined sputnik in 2019. Definitely a shitty year lol. |
Scornfyre
11.28.22 | "Looks like you joined sputnik in 2019. Definitely a shitty year lol."
LOL. I spat out my drink. You didn't have to roast me that hard. |