Ryus: alcohol vs weed | Sputnikmusic

Ryus 02.23.23	which do u prefer
JohnnyoftheWell 02.23.23	stupid and destructive and fun vs. boring and relaxing and stinky alcohol any day
SomeCallMeTim 02.23.23	weed. I'm legit addicted to weed tho so
Ryus 02.23.23	my answer tends to change but im pretty solidly team alcohol rn
Hyperion1001 02.23.23	weed all day friend
InfernalDeity 02.23.23	Weed for sure. Music and food are a million times better and no hangover.
onionbubs 02.23.23	weed by a landslide i drink pretty rarely now, but weed provides relief to my eating disorder so i am kinda biased lol, but also i can channel it into fun creative projects where drinking just makes me a moron (also can be fun but a MUCH more specific time and place thing for me)
Sharenge 02.23.23	team 🥦 but sometimes I choose both
SomeCallMeTim 02.23.23	actually if I can imma change my answer to team shrooms
Ryus 02.23.23	lets not get fancy now
SomeCallMeTim 02.23.23	ok fine I'll stick with my 2D devil's lettuce
Supercoolguy64 02.23.23	Alcohol forever
Supercoolguy64 02.23.23	Stoners talk about how evil beer is because it makes you reckless while they puff on a phat ass blunt driving 115MPH down the highway
onionbubs 02.23.23	lmao psychs would j be unfair to compare. i stand tall on acid mountain in my heart (tho shrooms are a lovely time as well)
PotsyTater 02.23.23	Alcohol on weekends weed on weekdays
Ryus 02.23.23	u must pick one
combustion07 02.23.23	Alcohol. Used to be weed easy but something shifted with me a few years back and I honestly don't really like smoking anymore. Switch just flipped and now I get mad uncomfortable every time out of nowhere even though I'd been a heavy smoker since I was 13. I honestly rarely drink nowadays either outside of going to concerts so I'm just kinda old and boring now lol. Used to go crazy hard on both amongst other things though
PotsyTater 02.23.23	Hmm ok I pick alcohol On weekends and weed on weekdays
PotsyTater 02.23.23	Jk I also pick alcohol Weed is mid
BAT 02.23.23	weed, if you've got a low tolerance it takes way less effort/time/health to get buzzed than alc. i drank whisky/rum every night for the first half of my twenties and ended up with clinical depression. i've slowed down on both only doing them every other couple days, but in that regard yeah weeds way more effective/involves less pissing and headaches. kinda miss mids though cause some o the shit is straight up anxiety inducing
Rolling Girl 02.23.23	Weed. Tho sometimes I do wonder if I’m like dependent on it lol. I like the way it feels more, no hangovers, and I probably spend less than I would be on alcohol. Plus most places don’t have anything I’d like.
z00sh 02.23.23	🍺
z00sh 02.23.23	i've always detested how weed smells lmao
EoinCofa 02.23.23	^you’re not wrong; smells like shit!
MrCoffee 02.23.23	weed. love it.
Ryus 02.23.23	im putting u down for caffeine MrCoffee
rabidfish 02.23.23	alcohol and weed and tobacco and a little coke, at the same time. Otherwise why even bother.
unclereich 02.23.23	Alcohol for sure but I haven’t drank in two years or so and I haven’t had weed in 8 years.
BaselineOOO 02.23.23	Both are extremely low IQ drugs, but if I have to choose I'll vote alcohol. I'd rather someone die in a stupid accident from alcohol than induce schizophrenia and ruin his memory as early as in his 20s. As a former junkie I believe weed is top 5 most dangerous drugs and its effects are not even that entertaining.
rabidfish 02.23.23	real shit. Hardcore boozers are always interesting people. People who smoke everyday are pitiful and kinda lame most of the time.
Ryus 02.23.23	basedline
unclereich 02.23.23	Baseheadline
SomeCallMeTim 02.23.23	@unclereich that’s awesome, keep it up! @base can you enlighten on what a high iq drug might be
AeniasGaming 02.23.23	none of the above
SomeCallMeTim 02.23.23	Hardcore stoners and hardcore alcoholics both have potential to be equally useless and shitty
Ryus 02.23.23	"@base can you enlighten on what a high iq drug might be" dramamine
bellovddd 02.23.23	weed easily. Alcohol leaves ya feeling like a pile of poo where weed leaves me feeling like I just did the best poo.
rabidfish 02.23.23	not yo ass morally valuing drug abuse and its effects itt
Dedes 02.23.23	I'm team drink Rarely smoke but kinda drink on the reg tbh
outliers 02.23.23	all I do is smoke weed
BaselineOOO 02.23.23	MXE is a high IQ drug. Dissociatives are magnificent in general, they're more ambiental than psychedelics, they create impossible vibes and visuals, no side effects whatsoever, even after they pulverize your entire conscious existence into pure ether. They have this "side effect" in their long comedowns (1-2 days) making real life feel kinda fake and cartoonish and 2.5D, but it's in a CUTE, non depression-inducing way... and of course a hard trip can get you killed if you have some heart problems, but that is with every hard drug. Thx for the nice comments btw! < 3
unclereich 02.23.23	Thanks Tim! Altho it wasn’t due to any reason. I just went on a health kick and haven’t bothered drinking since!
sixdegrees 02.23.23	beer
YoYoMancuso 02.23.23	chocolate milk
PotsyTater 02.23.23	This earth-shatteringly stupid troll bitch just said meth doesn’t have side effects directly after drawing a line between alcohol and schizophrenia
MO 02.23.23	booze. weed lost its luster for me many years ago. it's just boring
DocSportello 02.23.23	smoke weed pretty much every day alcohol just makes me feel shitty
Goodolboy 02.23.23	I'm actually physically addicted to alcohol and have been for years. Get withdrawals if a go a few days without so that's your answer from me lol liquor. Seems it's winning which is surprising. Stand tall and proud my drunkard bastards
BaselineOOO 02.23.23	"This earth-shatteringly stupid troll bitch just said meth doesn’t have side effects" MXE =/= meth. Meth is a stimulant not a dissociative, you asshat. It's for losers. "directly after drawing a line between alcohol and schizophrenia" Between weed and schizophrenia*. Learn to read, and stop being a frustrated person. Anybody knows how can I block this user "PotsyTater"? He's bad vibe and emanates low quality.
mrdogthrow 02.23.23	weed too many bad hangovers
widowslaugh123 02.23.23	I can’t handle hangovers anymore so I’m gonna go weed
Colton 02.23.23	baseline talkin about MXE like it’s 2015 lol no chance you’re getting that shit today
BaselineOOO 02.23.23	That's okay cause I've quit drugs in 2015 lol. But yeah, it's unfair, any human deserves to try MXE at least once in their life!! That thing was heavenly and it even allow me to talk to water and see how letters and words are formed in people's heads before they were released... it was breathtaking. Colton, you're cool!
WatchItExplode 02.23.23	Y'all heavy stones don't realize ur functionally in a perpetual hangover...get high on Jesus
kevbogz 02.23.23	couples drinks then a spliff, rinse repeat and ride the crossfade ever so gently all god damn night
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	i used to smoke like a chimney when i was younger but now i inhale and my brain decides to hyper focus on every shortcoming of my life and that i should call my mom more often and that i mightve forgottent to pay rent even though its the 12th of the month and that my boss hates me even though i hate him more
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	so alcohol
Colton 02.23.23	used to get that shit in the mail back in the day baseline god bless the dark web and agora marketplace
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	i bought LSD on silk road that ended up being some fucked RC but 10/10 miss those days
Colton 02.23.23	“ now i inhale and my brain decides to hyper focus on every shortcoming of my life and that i should call my mom more often” in addition to the divine synergy between weed/psychs and music that transcends life itself and provides infinite joy, the anxiety that they cause is proof of them being superior. they actually give you a more challenging perspective of your life that can be really healthy and productive if you don’t run from it. alcohol is the opposite, it’s just a way of hiding from the hard aspects of life, and tinkering too much with the part of your brain that regulates anxiety will come back to haunt you eventually. don’t get me wrong i think occasional drinks with friends are good but by and large alcohol is destructive and not conducive to a healthy lifestyle
Ryus 02.23.23	im putting you down for alcohol colton
FellHanded 02.23.23	as a ex pothead - alcohol
Colton 02.23.23	put me down for mxe with baseline
Ryus 02.23.23	there are only two choices here
kevbogz 02.23.23	i go booze. i can't smoke without having a couple cuz if i don't my brain goes 200mph i also have incredibly light (u could say beautiful) eyes and when i smoke they get red like the devil's dick
chemicalmarriage 02.23.23	Booze
Snake. 02.23.23	alcohol just because it's more accessible
Spec 02.23.23	Alcohol because I’m dependant on it.
unclereich 02.23.23	My cousin has brain damage from withdrawals it’s devastating-sadly his father died as a result of withdrawals. I hope everyone can get the help they need itt
Hockeytown 02.23.23	used to be team weed all the way for many years but that shit started giving me crazy anxiety. team alcohol now
Asdfp277 02.23.23	why must they fight
Colton 02.23.23	ppl don’t realize the anxiety from weed is the best part
Trebor. 02.23.23	I was a booze man most of my life but now hit the boof 2-4 times a week, brother
Sinternet 02.23.23	just way more fun being drunk than high so alc weed is fine and i def am better with it than i used to be but its like the most boring thing imaginable, give me shrooms anyday over
Sinternet 02.23.23	alternate answer: fuckin QUAALUDES
DavidYowi 02.23.23	weed definitely. can't drink alcohol when i'm alone i just feel bloated, also i usually hate the taste of alcohol
loveisamixtape 02.23.23	as a bartender i’m gonna vote weed here. alcohol is more fun sure but is more likely to ruin ur life
JoyfulPlatypus 02.23.23	Sign me up for team weed
fogza 02.23.23	not a big drinker but definitely don't feel weed. alcohol
neekafat 02.23.23	Weed 1000% But is being crossed an option
izakaya 02.23.23	alcohol. these days weed makes others boring and me anxious so nah
izakaya 02.23.23	"they actually give you a more challenging perspective of your life that can be really healthy and productive if you don’t run from it." lol deal with this when you're sober
dedex 02.23.23	mh. gonna say alcohol but I still like to light em up
Ragnavius 02.23.23	i love all drugs, even diphenhydramine. take 12 of those and jerk off and tell me its not awesome. they all got pros and cons, and if any drug sucked nobody would do it. i like huffing gas, sniffing glue, i like DXM, i bet jenkem is awesome but ill probably never be in africa to try it that being said, weeds objectively better than alcohol. nowadays i only drink at shows (so around once a month) and i pretty much never smoke weed, but weed is still better as far as safety, orgasms, sleep, diet, everything alcohol is mainly a social utility thing, its awesome but the older i get the cons outweigh the pros. getting drunk is really only fun now if you have some weed around to abort mission when shit starts getting boring and obnoxious id also like to say that what many of you call anxiety is really just introspection. if you smoke some weed and suddenly feel guilty for not doing the laundry for a month, thats a good thing. if you cant smoke weed anymore cause it makes you think about how your parents still pay your rent, well, theres a simple solution there
BAT 02.23.23	dxm sucks lol, just thinking about the taste of robitussin makes me gag. it was something to do when your like 14 and don't know any dealers, don't even think cvs/jewel stocks the gel caps anymore either. and only time i've had legitimate 'i think i'm dying' panic attacks; i was mostly sober. although i prefer weed i don't think its for everyone, and if someone does have issues with anxiety i'd say it amplifies it more than alcohol. aside from stuff like withdrawl i feel like drug effects vary from person to person. also remember reading about 'alcohol perceptions' way back and seems like a legit thoery: people who think alcohol makes things fun have fun when drinking, people who think it make people belligerent/pissed off tend to get cranky
Ragnavius 02.23.23	set and setting bro admittedly ive only ever mixed dxm with other drugs so who knows how i would actually feel about it
LunaticSoul 02.23.23	I hate alcohol, as my father is an alcoholic. I loved weed much more when I discovered it, now my lungs are in a poor shape/was obviously dependent on it to fix my disorders. I am right now team shrooms to be honest, that provides an even better look inward lol. Weed makes me lethargic, I just want to rest and listen to music and binge eat. I am not having fun on it anymore that much, but I enjoy the lethargicness.
BAT 02.23.23	likewise my dad was an alcoholic and it had a definite impact on my upbringing/views of alcohol. he went through addictions of pretty much everything from smack/meth/pills/etc, alcohol was just the easiest to get in his later years. and dxm is fun to goto concerts on/listening to music with friends lol. weeds/alcohols preferable in terms of relaxing though. only did shrooms once and it was awesome
Purpl3Spartan 02.23.23	Where are my fellow water enjoyers
Jasdevi087 02.23.23	alcohol, usually have negative experiences with weed and honestly think the comedown feels pretty gross
Demon of the Fall 02.23.23	Booze for sure, I like pubs and going out. You can be social with weed, but it's a different 'kind of social' and it also stinks terribly when you're not used to it, can smell that shit a mile off. Personally, I struggled with the 'stopping at weed' when it came to drug use also and was pretty messed up at one point in my youth. I did have issues with alcohol, but fortunately later in life I overcame them and am able to drink beer (or sometimes wine) without feeling the need to get plastered (probably due to the horrific hangovers post-30 yo (think it started earlier actually). I wouldn't want to risk trying weed again, in case it sets me off down the wrong path as a gateway drug (again) and honestly, I wasn't that enamoured with the 'feels' anyway.
combustion07 02.23.23	"i used to smoke like a chimney when i was younger but now i inhale and my brain decides to hyper focus on every shortcoming of my life and that i should call my mom more often and that i mightve forgottent to pay rent even though its the 12th of the month and that my boss hates me even though i hate him more" I can relate. Although I do feel what some of you are saying about the anxiety being good/something you can work with or that it is simply introspection I think in some cases you are right. For me though the issues it causes me mentally bounce to more extreme scenarios that greatly alter my mental well-being well after the feeling of actually being high fades away. I think I may have just fucked my brain up though because I didn't have this issue aside from on occasion until a few years back after having an experience where I took entirely too much acid and had an extremely bad trip. Now every time I smoke it throws me straight back into that bad experience and the thought process I was in at the time. The experience of taking the way tooooo much had me mentally destroyed for a few months though so I'm possibly just a special case in the context of this thread lol
Purpl3Spartan 02.23.23	Weed smells absolutely horrid yeah
Zig 02.23.23	Hydrocodone is better
Kompys2000 02.23.23	Got all the way to jenkem defense in under 100 comments lmfao love this site Put me down for team weed
osmark86 02.23.23	Alcohol for me. I like beer more than I'll ever like weed.
DePlazz 02.23.23	Alcohol
osmark86 02.23.23	I don't particularily agree that using weed to discover one's inner anxieties and dealing with them is necessarily the best way of going about these things either. It is often praised as an inate quality of psychedelics and I suppose for some it is, but personally I find that I deal with anxieties better not by going full-out introspective drugged out mode, but by actually talking about these issues with people I care for when I'm sober. Developing the courage to go to those places sober imo has helped me in my own life a lot more than nights of getting high ever did. Soz for randomly ranting, but just felt like kinda going off on this tangent after reading itt.
unclereich 02.23.23	Osmark m/
IsisScript80 02.23.23	Alcohol.
BAT 02.23.23	just remembered this classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY8jywTuyaw
Egarran 02.23.23	Glad you asked! I was smoking about 5 cigarette+hashish spliffs a day for years. Then last year I switched cigarettes with herbs and suddenly I'm only smoking 2 spliffs a day. Turns out I was addicted to nicotine and not to weed. This has done wonders for my economy but I don't really feel much different. I mean, I was promised higher energy levels but there's not much of that. I love being drunk on high quality booze and would probably be an alcoholic if I was rich (and didn't have a militantly straight gf). Now I just drink about two strong beers a day.
rellik009 02.23.23	both i guess? I only do edible weed in high dosage, and I only drink either wine or liquors/spirits in low amounts. will go for alcohol since it cant induce psychosis and has variety in terms of taste. psychs and dissociatives are just 100 percent better overall tho, even if dissociatives can have harmful effects on the immune system and the bladder.
Avagantamos 02.23.23	i hate getting drunk, but a couple alcoholic bevvies can be pretty nice. that said, weed 100%
rellik009 02.23.23	"baseline talkin about MXE like it’s 2015 lol no chance you’re getting that shit today" there are research chemical alternatives to it now like dmxe and hxe if im correct. just dont know if you can trust the drugs and providers fully though lol
osmark86 02.23.23	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7gbFMWZWlo
robertsona 02.23.23	weed? And yet I’d give it up first prob? Craft beer one of my biggest joys too. Por que no los dos…
synapseSnap 02.23.23	i used to smoke like a chimney when i was younger but now i inhale and my brain decides to hyper focus on every shortcoming of my life [2] one beer, please
Demon of the Fall 02.23.23	yeah, love a good craft beer... so thankful that I can still drink for that reason actually enjoying the taste instead of just drinking for drunkenness is a blessing (some wine is really damn nice too, but I'm not exactly a connoisseur)
combustion07 02.23.23	"I find that I deal with anxieties better not by going full-out introspective drugged out mode, but by actually talking about these issues with people I care for when I'm sober. Developing the courage to go to those places sober imo has helped me in my own life a lot more than nights of getting high ever did." This also. Until you can actually deal with your shit sober I don't feel like it's actually fully dealt with. Everybody does shit their own way but I feel like if you're gonna use drugs to face your demons it's more good for pointing you in the direction of them than it is to actually acknowledge and tackle them
anode 02.23.23	Oh man my kinda thread. I pick weed. Here’s my for and against: Weed - one of my true loves in life. I can’t smoke it the way I used to (well I can but then I won’t get good sleep and will be miserable at work). If I don’t smoke weed for a while, I get very tunnel visioned and even angrier than normal. I don’t get anxiety the way I sometimes used to from it as I think I’ve sorted through a lot of my mental walls. The unquestionable problem with weed comes with socialization. I lose a lot of incentive to go out and meet new people (not that I have a lot when sober). But weed fucks me up a lot and I can’t interact with people normally and being out in public doing things or meeting new people is invariably more uncomfortable for everyone involved unless they also happen to be high in which case we can just laugh our asses off together Alcohol - makes socializing more fun. I normally don’t want to socialize with new people unless they’re hot or they’re interested in music and we can talk about that. But if I’m drunk, I could talk to a tree stump if it gives me the time of day. It’s also a nice respite when I’m alone from my stupid fucking neurotic brain. The problem with alcohol is 1. It’s bad for you and unnecessary calorie intake 2. I can’t work out or practice guitar or be productive in general when drunk (I can while high which I know isn’t true for everybody) 3. It’s a depressant so the comedown can be kinda fucky for me 4. I’ve witnessed way too much alcohol related domestic violence to be totally ambivalent to that side of it so it’s a bit of a red flag for other people But yeah they’re both great in moderation and alcohol just has a few more drawbacks imo
anode 02.23.23	Now addressing the comments that stuck out to me: 1. Mxe sounds fucking great. Im sorry I missed that boat. And I would highly recommend avoiding “research chemicals” relik. We couldn’t get real acid in college and so we did research chemicals a lot and while most of them seemed pretty harmless, I got really fucked up on one of them very similar to what combustion described where I had a bad trip and was quite dissociated from reality for a few months after and weed gave me flashbacks to the horrendous auditory hallucinations I experienced. It definitely gave me a new twisted perspective on life but would not recommend. 2. I wouldn’t recommend using weed or any drugs for that matter for for dealing with your problems or anxieties but there is no question that the psychedelic qualities of weed change your perspective and can give you a different look at things. I think humans generally are way too narrow minded and self centered and weed gives you the opportunity to be like “fuck you you stupid fucking ape”
ArsMoriendi 02.23.23	I occasionally drink and don’t smoke so uh there’s my take I guess
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	Itt anyone downplaying the anxiety weed causes in some people are fucking ignorant. Basically the equivalent of explaining depression to a depressed person
MarsKid 02.23.23	where is the straight edge option
gryndstone 02.23.23	Weed. alcohol makes me feel sick too fast. Doesn't mean I won't partake but I much prefer a high
anode 02.23.23	Not seeing that analogy spaceman. I wouldn’t downplay the anxiety that weed causes. I would say that some people need the anxiety because they’re fucking twats and need to reevaluate things
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AlexKzillion 02.23.23	alcohol for sure
combustion07 02.23.23	"Not seeing that analogy spaceman. I wouldn’t downplay the anxiety that weed causes. I would say that some people need the anxiety because they’re fucking twats and need to reevaluate things" There was a comment or two here that kinda was either downplaying it or at the least trying to generalize it simply. You definitely weren't one of them though. Can't speak for spaceman however but I didn't take anything you said that way. I actually tend to agree with most everything you've said here fr. Especially with the perspective thing even though I don't feel I can really smoke anymore back when I did I definitely used it for the perspective shift it would cause
Colton 02.23.23	“you fear the inner turmoil of the mind… pathetic” - robertsona’s brother I think
DarkSideOfLucca 02.23.23	1 is based Also ughhhhh I don't know man Both are tied for me. Alcohol for social events, but I also smoke every night (after work, after dinner/cleaning) so uh Yeah both. This is the hardest choice in the universe.
robertsona 02.23.23	4/3/22, 3:12AM (first date) Alex Sup lol Alex Girls givin me the coke is better than weed talk 😕 might dip Dylan guh Dylan bad opinion Dylan cant handle the inner turmoil of the mind ended up dating her for a year tho and she got me and jared's apartment covered if we ever miss rent #cocainemeansmoney #helpinghands
combustion07 02.23.23	Also just went back and read most of the thread again and I'm actually not really sure any did really make any statements outright generalizing or downplaying it. It's moreso the comments acknowledge one end of the spectrum of anxiety where it can be utilized to be useful for the process of bettering yourself. The level of anxiety I get when I smoke borders on me plummeting into a weird almost schizophrenic state and I can't speak for spaceman and what his situation is like with it but I can see why someone might get caught up on the way it's been discussed here given how wildly different anxiety can get and other issues it can cause from one brain to another.
robertsona 02.23.23	anxiety feels like procrastination, obviously they're related: it's our subconscious telling us about something, but I agree the signal-noise ratio is way less clear than maybe it's being made to sound, and it's hard to say what we should do based on the anxiety, it doesnt tell us enough. procrastination sometimes means you shouldnt do something and sometimes means you should; they often feel the exact same way. or is this all obvious or maybe even wrong
pjquinones747 02.23.23	my answer is definitely weed. had to unlearn a bunch of toxic behaviors due to drinking and thats not to say weed isnt its own vice with plenty of cons but the floor for drinking is far lower in my experience.
robertsona 02.23.23	seems chemically analogous that you can kinda just keep getting drunker and drunker and drunker
Thibs 02.23.23	alcohol provides more of a de-stress for me. puts me in a good mood. weed is mentally stimulating and effects are strain dependent for sure. I generally don't do one without the other. best combo
mindleviticus 02.23.23	weed 100%
GhandhiLion 02.23.23	neither I'm high on life haha
Eakflanderyof 02.23.23	If I'm trying to have a good time and cut loose a little... definitely alcohol. If I'm chilling at home and want to zone out and play video games or something... weed it is. Weed can give me anxiety if I'm not in the right headspace though
Ryus 02.23.23	narcs must vacate the thread
Ryus 02.23.23	weed just sucks as a social activity for me. alcohol is for the homies
Pheromone 02.23.23	this is a music website
z00sh 02.23.23	water gang wya??
claygurnz 02.23.23	I love both but I'll go with alcohol as its more of a social tool in my life. Drinking with people from work, my family and friends etc, whereas hardly any of my friends smoke weed but they all drink. Plus I've recently been cutting down on weed since I tend to get the munchies hardcore and eat way too much crap and I enjoy having a lower tolerance so it takes less to get buzzed. I usually enjoy a joint just on Friday nights now.
Ryus 02.23.23	"this is a music website" this is plainly a drug addict website
robertsona 02.23.23	this is a weed website
z00sh 02.23.23	as long as we don't link up the dark web i think we should be okay 😂
robertsona 02.23.23	who got that datura link
GhandhiLion 02.23.23	hello hydrohomie
mindleviticus 02.23.23	"weed just sucks as a social activity for me. alcohol is for the homies" depends what weed you're taking, some weed makes me super social and I'm able to have more exciting conversations, with alcohol, while I feel good, I feel like a caveman after a couple
Pheromone 02.23.23	i am a mort addict
Ryus 02.23.23	"depends what weed you're taking, some weed makes me super social and I'm able to have more exciting conversations, with alcohol, while I feel good, I feel like a caveman after a couple" idk man. ive smoked a good amount of weed and its never done that fo rme. guess its just my brain
Colton 02.23.23	ppl think weed sucks as a social activity because it makes them doubt themselves, but that makes it better for actually being good at socializing with others. a lot of people who drink all the time when they socialize become so dependent on it that they can't socialize without it
Ryus 02.23.23	weed doesnt make me doubt myself it just makes me wanna sit back n chill
Ryus 02.23.23	which isnt ideal for socializing
Colton 02.23.23	guess it's different for everyone, I get high and go to the gym every night, the last thing I wanna do when it kicks in is sit back and chill. but if I drank before the gym I would probably die
GhandhiLion 02.23.23	weed is the worst smelling substance ever, at least the strains that are common in the uk. I'm shuddering just thinking of it. The way it lingers on you the next day, gross!
Colton 02.23.23	that's why you take edibles
Colton 02.23.23	actually that's not really why but it's a factor
GhandhiLion 02.23.23	edibles are definitely the best way to consume it sure
JesperL 02.23.23	i do neither myself but weed > alcohol bc walking around amsterdam at 4 am means making 40 new friends while walking around any other capital city at 4 am means getting beaten up lmao
pjquinones747 02.23.23	hate to be that guy but i really wish edibles actually worked on me. ive taken absurd amounts via edible and havent felt /anything/
Thibs 02.23.23	How many different kinds/brands have you tried? I've purchased some where I'll take 20-30mg and feel hardly anything but have also had 8mg of another brand and feel plenty high
mindleviticus 02.23.23	Edibles are so good after an intense exercise ngl
Colton 02.23.23	edibles don't work for you pj because the industry is filled with bullshit products that advertise high THC but actually have barely any at all. I've had many people say the same thing to me and then I give them my edibles and they're like holy shit
Sinternet 02.23.23	"weed is the worst smelling substance ever, at least the strains that are common in the uk. I'm shuddering just thinking of it. The way it lingers on you the next day, gross!" so fucking true, oddly though last time i smoked (like 4 months ago) we got some really good shit and that smelt fine, fat chance of finding out what it was or who my mate's dealer got it off though otherwise i would more regularly
Colton 02.23.23	softest shit I've ever read
Ryus 02.23.23	worst drug is nitrous oxide shit lasts 3 seconds and makes me feel like i have brain damage because i probably do as a result of doing nitrous oxide
Egarran 02.23.23	Dude, drinking ice cold water while high chef's kiss
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	Yeah anode I read here (and hear all the time cause I go to festivals and unfortunately am caught up in other drugs) that people try and literally explain to me how weed induced anxiety is managable or useful or blah blah. It's like bro, just cause you can smoke weed like it's a cup of coffee doesn't mean you have any clue how my mental is on it. People simp this plant so hard
Kompys2000 02.23.23	Yeah weed is second only to psychs in terms of how annoyingly it's evangelized
rellik009 02.23.23	@anode i generally don't dabble with research chemicals, but mostly because there is barely any reliable info for a lot of them. However, there is a relatively safe market where i live in Europe, especially when it comes to psychs like LSD (i never tried actual LSD, only its analogues).
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	Yeah its one thing if drugs help you but that doesn't mean you should push it on others. Ketamine helped cure my depression but I'm not tryna tell everyone to go buy a ball and listen to boards of canada
Colton 02.23.23	psychs are evangelized because of the drastic improvements they can have to people's perspective and habits, if they don't effect you that way that's fine but don't be bitter
Colton 02.23.23	"Ketamine helped cure my depression but I'm not tryna tell everyone to go buy a ball and listen to boards of canada" why would you not push it on others if it cured your depression
pjquinones747 02.23.23	"How many different kinds/brands have you tried?" haven't paid much attention honestly. i still don't believe im impervious to them i just havent tried the right shit probably. ive tried dispo bought stuff as well as home made stuff.
Ryus 02.23.23	"why would you not push it on others if it cured your depression " ur cute colton
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	@colton do you like it when someone who's life was bettered by religion pushes christ on you?
rellik009 02.23.23	people do tend to forget that the therapeutic effectiveness of drugs like Ketamine or lsd only reaches its maximum potential in a controlled medical setting. like you could take lsd twice to fix your depression but its often temporary if you dont follow through with an actual plan.
Colton 02.23.23	@spaceman god isn't real ketamine is
anode 02.23.23	Yeah bro if it’s panic inducing then don’t do it haha would never advocate for that. yeah research chemicals are so sketchy. I just imagine some crack heads in lab coats mixing chemicals together
rellik009 02.23.23	mr krabs invented god after doing ketamine
Colton 02.23.23	research chemicals are sketchy when it's some brand new chemical that's not super closely related to anything else, but when they just take a drug that's been around for a long time and tweak one little thing so it's basically the same thing then it's probably fine. like what are the odds that the drugs that happen to be popular are fine but drugs that are basically the exact same but slightly different are horrifically bad for you
Colton 02.23.23	but seriously if ketamine "cured your depression" would you not at least tell other depressed people about it
Ryus 02.23.23	what about h2o vs h2o2 did u ever think of that
anode 02.23.23	Yeah I guess youre right and really all drugs are sketchy unless you are intimately aware of how they were construed but speaking of the shit I got in college specifically, it was definitely sketchy haha like lsd is my favorite hallucinogen and these rcs that claimed to be acid were nothing like it
rellik009 02.23.23	what about co2 vs co
GhandhiLion 02.23.23	Placebo effect is really powerful
Colton 02.23.23	a lot of RCs are sold as "acid" but are nothing like it really, but a lot are just analogues of acid like AL-LAD or 1P-LSD and they're very similar
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	Either you're not hearing my argument, I'm not getting my point across, or you're just tryna hold onto your holy view of drug cures. Cause there's a very obvious line between someone telling you k helped their depression and someone literally arguing about how it should be affecting you. If you can't see that then idk man keep ripping the bong until your apparent cure helps you see it
Colton 02.23.23	sounds like it's wearing off maybe you should get some more
Pheromone 02.23.23	colton is like when a character in a sitcom becomes progressively more stereotypically themselves with each season
JKing92 02.23.23	Weed
Egarran 02.23.23	We don't recommend psychoactive drugs because they can fuck people up and we don't want to risk that. But yes everyone should have three good shroom trips.
Kusangii 02.23.23	Alcohol is such a shit drug lol
robertsona 02.23.23	Once I was with my high school summer camp friends a decade later in a weird hotel room and we were talking about ketamine and I had only had it once but I was like “yeah man ketamine is sick love feeling like I’m gonna knock some shit over” and then windmilled my arms and did the cartoon guy falling down “woah oh oh oH OH OH” voice and a girl spit out her drink laughing
Colton 02.23.23	one time i did ketamine and listened to cocteau twins and closed my eyes and i swear i was literally flying through a mountain range
Eakflanderyof 02.23.23	I've had some great times out drinking and it's fun hanging with some friends drinking and watching sports or whatever but yeah alcohol is one of the worst substances when abused
WatchItExplode 02.23.23	Can't even believe the amount of weed I smoked in college. Best thing I ever did was dry out for 3 months while seeking my first professional job. I went back to it, but never the same way. I just enjoy a single puff here and there...just enough to tilt my consciousness slightly. Craft beers and rye till death. Alcohol.
Eakflanderyof 02.23.23	Same for me. I used to smoke so much in my early 20s. Nowadays, I might take a hit or 2 off the one hitter at night and I'm set
BaselineOOO 02.23.23	RC are trustworthy on the European market. Never got a bad experience with vendors from Netherlands, Spain. Stuff like 1P-LSD, 4-AcO-DMT and other analogues are 99% if not the same as the real deal. The dangers of RC is with trying new on the block, experimental stuff, or weird blends of more than 2 substances. RC stimulants are especially dangerous and full of adverse effects, but stimulants in general should be avoided. I detest psychedelics, natural or synthetic, one bad trip and they can leave you broken for months. I will generalize (because it's true), but dumb people have positive experiences with psychedelics, and intelligent people struggle with them. You'd need extremely well controlled settings in order for psychs to "cure" forms of depression. Also, typically many people who say that psychs change their life for the better kind of turn into losers?
robertsona 02.23.23	I’ve never had a bad trip of like 12 but I dont got too many brains it’s true
BaselineOOO 02.23.23	Nooo, I'm sure you will have your share of hell deep bad trips, you're the best! < 3
robertsona 02.23.23	Thank U…
GhandhiLion 02.23.23	put my name under Tupelo Honey
madrigal30 02.23.23	booze cruisers uniteeeee
zakalwe 02.23.23	Bunch of students with your hippy shite. Piss up, sing song, shag in a back alley. British boozer >
Colton 02.23.23	idk how people shag slags when they're proper pissed, always made me less inclined to do so innit
gravityswitch 02.23.23	plus limp dick
Colton 02.23.23	socializing is literally the only thing alcohol enhances for me. everything else becomes worse. food, music, sex, exercise, studying, video games, movies. literally everything
Colton 02.23.23	obviously a couple beers is fine but if I have more than that and listen to music it gives me this super uncomfortable feeling where the sound waves are entering my ears but my brain is not processing them and it just feels so wrong
CygnusX1 02.23.23	Weed is nice and chill, lets you relax and slow down a bit. Good for appetite and sleep aid. Stress relief and all the medicinal benefits are great. Alcohol helps get people into fights, drunk driving accidents, liver cancer, and social interactions are easier. And it has it's own -ism! Alcohol rules, way better
Ryus 02.23.23	someone gets it
ffs 02.23.23	weeds cool but i can never punch my gf unconscious like when im drunk
Kompys2000 02.23.23	Sheesh well now we know why yer like this zak, toke up and kick back with some Beatles and maybe the brats and yanks won't torment you so ;P
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	I'm gonna steal the declaration of independence
rellik009 02.23.23	"I will generalize (because it's true), but dumb people have positive experiences with psychedelics, and intelligent people struggle with them." LMFAO
loveisamixtape 02.23.23	i’ll have you know my IQ is 743 and i consider shrooms to be the best drug
Colton 02.23.23	baseline takes acid and collapses under the weight of his own intellect
zakalwe 02.23.23	Absolute bunch of melts
JohnnyoftheWell 02.23.23	team weed making an alarmingly good case for why any decent pub should refuse them entry how has it come to this I am sad
Colton 02.23.23	we don't want to go to your shitty pub
JeetJeet 02.23.23	Gonna go with weed. Drinkings fun, just way less fun than a few bong rips or an edible.
anode 02.23.23	I’m low key really jealous of Brits being able to use the word pub and for it to be so ubiquitous for people to just tag up and go drinking. Like in the us it’s kinda strange for two young adult men to go to the bar together to chat and blow off steam cause the bars are kinda shite. Or at least my friends never want to do it. And it’s kinda taboo at least at the jobs I’ve worked at to go drinking after but in the uk it seems like the norm
zakalwe 02.23.23	Yanks John. Absolutely fuck all idea unless it’s packaged, sold as product and franchised to become a consumable ‘benefit’ Few centuries of bullshit v millennia of getting on the piss and having a rum old time.
ArsMoriendi 02.23.23	It’s okay Zak, I know the world changing can be scary
Sharenge 02.23.23	SLANDER THE OPPOSING TEAM!
Sharenge 02.23.23	for the lols
zakalwe 02.23.23	@Ars. They never tell you it’s changing for the worse
tellah 02.23.23	alcohol, zaza was dope until I turned 25 and now makes me panic and get anxiety every time i try it
sixdegrees 02.23.23	robitussin
Thibs 02.23.23	If I had to give one of them up it would be weed. my vote is for alcohol.
unclereich 02.23.23	smok
Hyperion1001 02.23.23	I genuinely think the two worst drugs you can put in your body are alcohol and benzodiazepines no drug in the history of human civilization has been as destructive or ruined as many lives as alcohol.
TheTripP 02.23.23	alcohol, miller time babyyyy
combustion07 02.23.23	"that people try and literally explain to me how weed induced anxiety is managable or useful or blah blah. It's like bro, just cause you can smoke weed like it's a cup of coffee doesn't mean you have any clue how my mental is on it. People simp this plant so hard" Yeah I had a long time friend I outright had to quit hanging out with when I quit smoking. He'd hit me up to come chill and immediately try to get me to take a dab. I'd say no and explain why I don't mess with it anymore (which he already knew) and he'd beg me for like 10 minutes straight then finally drop. Then like clockwork every 15-30 minutes bring it back up. Dude would even occasionally be like "c'mon pussy!" Like bro I did fucking fentanyl for years it's not like I'm some kind of prude when it comes to drugs I just like not mentally crumbling and having an nonstop existential crisis. That said I wish I didn't have my real bad acid experience because I loved weed back in the day and really wish it was like it used to be for me.
zakalwe 02.23.23	Let’s face it, if all us worldwide sput lot had a meet up and sat around a massive table in a boozer with decent tunes playing, a fucking great whip on the go and a bit of karaoke it’d be the absolute bollocks. All you other melts can sit there rolling spliffs and being bells.
Hyperion1001 02.23.23	like half the words you just used aren’t real words
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	"no drug in the history of human civilization has been as destructive or ruined as many lives as alcohol" That's because of its been around so long and is so accepted I to society. I promise you opiates are infinitely worse to whoever they've reached
ProphetNimd 02.23.23	I smoke more but I like both. I pretty much only ever drink socially anymore since I'm 30 and have to plan my hangovers now while weed is more of a me thing I chill with. I've definitely tried to cut back on weed though since I don't really like myself when I smoke everyday and it pisses my girlfriend off, so I've isolated it to weekends only.
TheSpaceMan 02.23.23	Granted opiates have been around forever too but not in their current destructive form
anode 02.23.23	Nice to see zak taking the controversial stance of shitting on stoners
ProphetNimd 02.23.23	CBD absolutely fucks though and I do use that every day without feeling like a loser.
loveisamixtape 02.23.23	alcohol stans r naturally more aggressive due to their severely depleted levels of serotonin
zakalwe 02.23.23	Yeah, that was a real point of discussion in the Carpenters Arms last week
JohnnyoftheWell 02.23.23	"severely depleted levels of serotonin" literally how else am i meant to enjoy shoegaze
Ragnavius 02.23.23	cbd stands for "cantfeelthis bullshit drug"
DocSportello 02.23.23	"I genuinely think the two worst drugs you can put in your body are alcohol and benzodiazepines" [2]
Ragnavius 02.23.23	but ya if youre schizophrenic or something dont smoke weed
BMDrummer 02.23.23	rarely drink anymore so i guess weed. dipped pretty hard into alcoholism in the last two years and never wanna go back, worst i've ever felt in my life and no good came of it. would rather deal with weed anxiety any day over some of the hangovers i've had lmao
Ragnavius 02.23.23	no surprise johnny is team alcohol, my dear boy fancies himself the "not problematic faulkner" it seems. with half the clarity of prose, to boot! :D
Ragnavius 02.23.23	zak's example of all of us sittin around gettin drunk on warm boddingtons only helps team weed tbh, like yeah alcohol would make it easier for 100 people who dont like each other and dont like any of the same music to sit around for a few hours talking lol. but just wait til someone wants to hear brand new and someone else wants to hear yo la tengo and then the blows start to come
Ragnavius 02.23.23	anyway this thread has put me in a beer mood tbh, nice weather here
Kompys2000 02.23.23	"Granted opiates have been around forever too but not in their current destructive form" I mean it was powerful enough 100 years ago for Britain to use it as a tool of imperial subjugation, I'd say it's made some awfully impressive headway towards alcohol's headcount in the intervening century
Ragnavius 02.23.23	i bet heroin's awesome
loveisamixtape 02.23.23	cocaine makes people annoying and is often cut with fent so that’s prob my least favorite drug
sixdegrees 02.23.23	I will simply do as Verm would do and have a kickass ale
Ragnavius 02.23.23	yeah it sucks you cant even accept a free bump anymore
Ragnavius 02.23.23	man some good coke, good booze, good smoke, few handfuls of kratom, 6 benadryl, 2 hits of acid, 8th of shrooms, and a full canister of gasoline with an unjizzed-on rag sounds like a killer evening right about now. put on some ACDC
JohnnyoftheWell 02.23.23	cokeheads are boring as all hell yh who the hell is clarity is she single hope she finds someone else
Hyperion1001 02.23.23	yeah don’t get me wrong, the opioid epidemic is very bad. but honestly I’ve been around addicts a lot in my years and it didn’t seem to be this destructive until fent showed up. at the moment all I even think about is weed and even that I don’t do much. drugs aren’t drugs anymore and it’s just not worth it.
CygnusX1 02.23.23	Wishing I had some ludes damn those looked fire
combustion07 02.23.23	It's wild from what I recall I've only had 3 notable hangovers in my life which is shocking because I used to drink whiskey like some kind of damn whiskey fish lol the few times I did get a hangover though they were insane earth shattering ones that really had me rethinking my life decisions. Its been over a year since I've drank at all though because I only do it at concerts these days and it's been a good while since I've been to a show. It'll be interesting to see how easily I'll get drunk after taking the lengthy break. I used to have an incredible tolerance. There was a Nailbomb show I went to years ago where I drank 15 beers in just a couple hours lol
Ragnavius 02.23.23	i ended up taking my shirt off at steely dan last year
DocSportello 02.23.23	lmao did they play deacon blues
Ragnavius 02.23.23	nah but i did see them do that one like 5 years ago
DocSportello 02.23.23	Donald fagen's solo stuff is actually p good. nightfly > gaucho imo
Eakflanderyof 02.23.23	Man, alcohol vs weed really got sputnik in a frenzy
JohnnyoftheWell 02.23.23	"what a thread, I'm always just about to say something but thanks to weed I can't be bothered" - egarran, 2023 i will reversepastaninja ur ass
DocSportello 02.23.23	we love to party
Epictetus 02.23.23	Alcohol. Weed for beatniks and guys who write poetry
SomeCallMeTim 02.23.23	maybe im team caffeine
Goodolboy 02.24.23	Pot heads are usually lame werdios and sleep all day tbh
Colton 02.24.23	thank you egarran for shedding light on that. weed makes you not comment on sputnik and is therefore objectively the better drug thread over
Ryus 02.24.23	surprising results tbh
anode 02.24.23	“Pot heads are usually lame werdios and sleep all day tbh“ lol that definitely checks out with your username
WatchItExplode 02.24.23	Based on this thread, there are 69 active users on Sputnikmusic.com. Nice.
Supercoolguy64 02.24.23	If you get a hangover then that means you’re lacking in tummyfeel. The second I feel a bug in my stomache is when I stop for the night.
Sinternet 02.24.23	colton desperately trying to seem hard in the sput drug thread hm
anode 02.24.23	Yeah Colton stop talking about how many qualuudes you can take in one night without passing out
combustion07 02.24.23	Always wanted to go back in time and do some damn qualuudes. I assume anode spelled that right cuz I got no clue lol. I was born too late! Who got them black beauties and qualuudes?!?
Sinternet 02.24.23	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2JF0P4GFA
loveisamixtape 02.24.23	“I’m low key really jealous of Brits being able to use the word pub and for it to be so ubiquitous for people to just tag up and go drinking. Like in the us it’s kinda strange for two young adult men to go to the bar together to chat and blow off steam cause the bars are kinda shite. Or at least my friends never want to do it. And it’s kinda taboo at least at the jobs I’ve worked at to go drinking after but in the uk it seems like the norm“ lmao that’s not weird or unusual at all what are u talking about
Colton 02.24.23	what did I say that came off as hard to you sinternet
Sharenge 02.24.23	drugs
Colton 02.24.23	i am just sharing experiences of my life sinternet. come by sometime I'll sit you on my knee and tell you stories of southern ontario in the mid 2010s
JayEnder 02.24.23	Weed sucks. And this is coming from someone who smoked daily for almost 6 years. One day I just had this epiphany that it simply wasn't fun anymore and since then every time I smoked it made my social anxiety spike to a hundred. Also I don't drink either. Always hated alcohol. So sign me up for team sober lol.
combustion07 02.24.23	I have this weird thing where I assume when users join they're real young like I was when I did so I have this false impression that Colton is like 16 lol. Idk your actual age but in my world you've been a high school kid
Colton 02.24.23	I joined sputnik in 2009
Sharenge 02.24.23	sit on his knee
JayEnder 02.24.23	"i used to smoke like a chimney when i was younger but now i inhale and my brain decides to hyper focus on every shortcoming of my life" Man this hit. Literally same. Since last year every time I smoked weed every awkward moment of my past would come back to haunt me.
bellovddd 02.24.23	So weird. Weed cures any bit of anxiety or depression I have. Without it I would be dead 100%.
JayEnder 02.24.23	It used to for me, I was straight up addicted for a long time. Then I just started abusing it too much and it lost its magic.
Ragnavius 02.24.23	colton is 16 AND he joined in 2009
Ragnavius 02.24.23	i didnt really get any real life responsibilities til i was like 22 and thats when weed started to become less fun for me sorry i offended folks with the anxiety remarks, i mean if weed makes you unable to order food or use the phone or something then yeah dont smoke it. i can pretty much only get fried when ive got all my shit in order nowadays
bellovddd 02.24.23	I started smoking when I was 18 every day till I had my first child at 26. I stopped for a number of years because the wife thought it would be a good idea. Now that the wife has fucked off I am back on it and I'm a lot happier and calmer then I was not on it. Call that dependency but at least I am better to be around and less of a dick for no reason. But totally understand how people have negative effects from it. Do whatever makes you happy.
Colton 02.24.23	wife owned
bellovddd 02.24.23	wifeless now. lesson learned.
Jasdevi087 02.24.23	colton you ever smoked nutmeg bro?
Colton 02.24.23	so when you say you're happier and calmer now, what you're saying is weed > wife
Colton 02.24.23	I have not smoked nutmeg. I have smoked weed, salvia and DMT
Colton 02.24.23	and tobacco
Jasdevi087 02.24.23	aight well, report back on that one later
Colton 02.24.23	I do not partake in such activities anymore. weed and the occasional weekend beers only. I also have some shroom caps but haven't taken em for years. once you get the message you gotta hang up the phone they say
MetalMarcJK 02.24.23	Al K. Hall
bellovddd 02.24.23	WEED IS 1000 TIMES BETTER THEN WIFE. CORRECT now shrooms is where its at though.
robertsona 02.24.23	weed is wife
SomeCallMeTim 02.24.23	Love the shrooms love I’ve seen in here
bellovddd 02.24.23	shrooms are my preferred mode of transportation if I can get them.
Storm In A Teacup 02.24.23	Weed. I smoke everyday it helps me get through a lot physically. Haven't had to pay in a few years though. My lady's dad supplies weekly.
pizzamachine 02.24.23	I do the alcohol sometimes
WatchItExplode 02.24.23	Fascinating. We are all unique individuals with different experiences with substances. I suppose it's best not to yuck someone else's yum...unless it's meth. Fuck that shit.
TenSecondsToThink 02.24.23	every few weeks i drink 2 beers and watch concerts on youtube and it's about my favorite thing to do on earth. change is a great rec btw, it's easily overlooked
combustion07 02.24.23	What'd you think of Salvia when you tried it Colton? Or anyone else that has for that matter. I tried that shit at an obnoxiously young age lol
Avagantamos 02.24.23	when I tried salvia I was out in the woods and the trees started talking to me in an alien language, like they were lecturing me. also felt buzzing over my whole body, like hitting the funny bone but without the pain. very weird and interesting substance, not exactly bad imo
Deathconscious 02.24.23	I smoked for a few years as a teen but it started giving me a ton of anxiety. Alcohol for sure.
Ragnavius 02.24.23	i did nutmeg when i was 14
BAT 02.24.23	[same :(, i had the worst cottonmouth in my life and a headache for the following week] wonder how many people here remember 'totse'
BaselineOOO 02.24.23	I just realized there are only 69 active users on sputnik. Wait, I'm starting to connect the dots, was I unbanned because the site is dying? I thought it was because Johnny got dark sxual phantasies with me. :(
anode 02.24.23	You saying it’s normal to get a drink with a bud and drink after work with coworkers in the us or it’s normal to be jealous of drinking culture in the uk loveisamixtape
IsisScript80 02.24.23	^ One thing I can say for sure: The U.K. drinking culture is absolutely NOTHING to be jealous of.
MarsKid 02.24.23	"So sign me up for team sober lol." My man
IsisScript80 02.24.23	^ Yeah, should be a third category here for straight edge.
anat 02.24.23	pringles
loulou 02.24.23	weed
MarsKid 02.24.23	Straight-edge homies let's go put us next to a Have Heart album lol
PurpleDino 02.24.23	booze! used to smoke weed everyday, haven't touched it in about 2.5 years now booze is easily better and without doubt the best drug in terms of it always being fun in almost any situation mdma is the best drug in terms of the actual experience however
madrigal30 02.24.23	booze > weed because even at my drunkest i'm doing activities. weed makes me lazy, which i hate
PurpleDino 02.24.23	'booze > weed because even at my drunkest i'm doing activities. weed makes me lazy, which i hate' this 100%, weed makes you boring, booze makes you sociable
madrigal30 02.24.23	it's fun when the goal is to, say, sociably watch a movie, or sociably create something, or socially enjoy nature. but booze puts you in the right headspace for your bars, your parties, your dates, etc
Demon of the Fall 02.24.23	'One thing I can say for sure: The U.K. drinking culture is absolutely NOTHING to be jealous of.' (2) true, a lot of pillocks spoil it. I don't get people that still go out on the razz religiously well into their 30s and 40s. My generation, I guess they just didn't ever stop. A lot of youngsters are rejecting booze now apparently. It still happens of course, but there seems to be a gradually changing shift in mentality. I love pubs, especially historic characterful ones. It's like stepping back in time. I like these new-fangled beers too, but the dying art of a nice cask pint is something to be cherished as well. Dogs. Fires in winter. Low lighting. Perfection. And screw TVs in pubs, I'll watch the footy at home or if you absolutely need to then show it at a dedicated 'sports bar'. The ones that show 'news' or something are even worse, turn that shit off. No need for that in a pub. genuinely forgot why I started this comment, ah well
Ryus 02.24.23	unfortunately the dearth of funding for this research precludes a 3rd straight edge option
Rowhaus 02.24.23	weed getting BTFO hell yeah
Demon of the Fall 02.24.23	lazy fuckers can't even be arsed voting, four whole letters on a keyboard is tough
Nomos2 02.24.23	weed all day lmao booze can be more fun but its side effects are disastrous. How can any of you guys drink past 30 and enjoy it?!
Colton 02.24.23	weed makes me more productive personally
IsisScript80 02.24.23	"unfortunately the dearth of funding for this research precludes a 3rd straight edge option" Tough times. Understandable.
MarsKid 02.24.23	We will make our own list. Maybe.
JeetJeet 02.24.23	"this 100%, weed makes you boring, booze makes you sociable" This is the exact opposite for nearly everyone I know that smokes lol. And frfr if I'm going to a social event/party I'll probably take a few hits beforehand since it kinda just spices everything up just a tiny bit.
madrigal30 02.24.23	>how can you drink past 30 and enjoy it?! don't get old
heck 02.24.23	only sociopaths and sadists prefer alcohol
climactic 02.24.23	alc for sure. wish i still enjoyed weed, anything more than 1 or 2 hits turns me into a paranoid schizo these days
Storm In A Teacup 02.24.23	That's you not the weed. Gotta get boost your confidence, boost your self esteem, understand your perspective isn't others perspective.
Sharenge 02.24.23	it could be tho
climactic 02.24.23	or people just react differently to different substances?
onionbubs 02.24.23	ily storm but gonna repurpose that last quote and flip the "understand your perspective isn't others perspective" the other direction too as everyones body and brain chemistry is different
madrigal30 02.24.23	as usual, based onionbubs. haven't seen yer name in forever big boss how are ya
IsisScript80 02.24.23	"only sociopaths and sadists prefer alcohol" I don't believe I'm sociopathic, but I am partial to a bit of mid-week sadism, so that checks out.
madrigal30 02.24.23	sadism in moderation is good for the soul
anode 02.24.23	I think that’s so strange how people all of a sudden can’t smoke weed anymore cause it fucks with their head. Happened to one of my friends too
Egarran 02.24.23	Excellent
Rowhaus 02.24.23	Put me down for alcohol plz. I drink it pretty much erryday
JeetJeet 02.24.23	I'd down shots/beers/face blunts with nearly everyone in this thread. Just please for the love of god do not play Radiohead around me or I'll willingly puke on you.
madrigal30 02.24.23	jeet that's real as hell
Rowhaus 02.24.23	I'd gladly drink to some Radiohead bashing
onionbubs 02.24.23	"as usual, based onionbubs. haven't seen yer name in forever big boss how are ya" thank ya! its true i have been on here more sparingly lately but ive been doing great and i hope ya are too : )
DocSportello 02.24.23	I love Radiohead but it’s just not music you listen to around people lmao
Drifter 02.24.23	dr pepper
robertsona 02.24.23	weed making me more productive is a hilarious fantasy in a number of ways it gets rid of motivation. the only time it doesnt is the once-in-a-while where I convince myself that I worked out because it was fun to smoke weed beforehand and exercise high, which is probably often true if I am going to a party and smoking weed right before I will not say a damn word.
Ryus 02.24.23	yea sona im in the same boat
DocSportello 02.24.23	I used to be like this, in college I’d have voted ‘alcohol’ and secretly wished I could’ve said ‘weed,’ bc I enjoyed its effects but it’d totally wreck my ability to socialize - on the contrary, it’d make me feel nervous and so I’d subvocalize my way to the fringes of the party. Tried weed again a few years later after beginning to deal with all my shit and found it kinda enhanced interactions with people, and it’s only gotten more pleasant. Probably had something to do with the fact that my fraternity was a bunch of hateful shitheads lmao
Hyperion1001 02.24.23	ive heard some people say they smoke before they exercise and I just cannot imagine how that’s in the least bit productive.
Egarran 02.24.23	Consider that sex is a kind of exercise.
Ryus 02.24.23	lmao yeah there are certain things that are incredible while high (music, sex, food) but it just makes me a sloth and i fall asleep after an hour
Hyperion1001 02.24.23	I desire nothing more in this world than a deep, restful sleep and so far the only thing that allows that to happen is weed lmao. I had a med card in Maryland for insomnia and I miss it every single day.
syco722 02.24.23	Can't smoke anymore without a panic attack since I got older unfortunately so team alcohol
Demon of the Fall 02.24.23	best argument for team weed is definitely that sleep one, bloody hell do I wish for some good sleep, like actually feeling well rested by morning. Haven’t slept well in years
Colton 02.24.23	"ive heard some people say they smoke before they exercise and I just cannot imagine how that’s in the least bit productive." I've been doing this 5 days a week for many years. I think a big part of it for me is I love listening to music while I'm high and the gym is the perfect time to listen to music so it just goes hand in hand. but it also makes you more aware of your body I think so it makes it easier to target specific muscle groups and use the right form
Colton 02.24.23	"What'd you think of Salvia when you tried it Colton?" it was horrifying. I thought I died. tried running out of my friend's room over and over again to escape it, only to end up back where I started every time. after the 6th or 7th time I gave up and just accepted I was dead. then it wore off and obviously I hadn't actually been running out of the room I was just sitting on his bed the whole time
Hyperion1001 02.24.23	I already spend entirely too long in the gym if I smoked beforehand i might waste away in there lmao.
twlight 02.24.23	Alcohol. Used to be a huge stoner but it isn't fun anymore and gives me paranoia. Alcohol is definitely more destructive but much more social and better buzz imo
MeatSalad 02.24.23	I'm probably on team weed (edibles rather than smoke tho, not tryna fuck up my lungs)
Nomos2 02.24.23	Been smoking weed daily for...oh god..since 2010 or 2011 or so? Sometimes I wonder what my unmedicated brain would look like after a good long tolerance break. And then depression and anxiety pop right back up and remind me that I might be better off just smoking it away, lesser of the evils I suppose. I'm proud to say I had a cocktail night lately with 2 of the top 20 bartenders in Canada serving us at a private event for 8 people. Absolutely bonkers cocktails. Proud to say it didn't trigger any addiction issues and it's been a while since I've drank at home! Waayyyy too easy to spiral with the booze. I do feel quite a bit for those who have paranoia and panic attack on weed. I've always just gotten a nice peaceful happy numbing out of it. The panic only sets in from smoking far too much, but that's not too different than taking too much of any psychedelic too.
combustion07 02.24.23	"I think that’s so strange how people all of a sudden can’t smoke weed anymore cause it fucks with their head. Happened to one of my friends too" I've noticed this happening a lot more with people in the past like 5 years for some reason. I've also noticed it's a very common issue for people who use harder drugs too. "ive heard some people say they smoke before they exercise and I just cannot imagine how that’s in the least bit productive." I've got a good friend who does this and my cousin does also. It blows my mind. My cousin does every time and he's the bodybuilder type of whatever and has worked out to an extreme level where he's given himself a hernia on two occasions. Wild stuff lol
syco722 02.24.23	Colton, you and I had an extremely similar experience with Salvia, almost the exact thing happened to me except I only went 'in and out' once. Finally actually made it outside, shadows came alive, literally had an existential crisis and thought I was in hell forever (for what was actually 15 minutes lol). Would not recommend to anyone. Also, big props to you Nomos for having a drink and not letting it get to you. That's awesome man. It is DEFINITELY too easy to spiral with the booze (i.e. if I'm posting on here, that means I've had a few).
combustion07 02.24.23	"it was horrifying. I thought I died. tried running out of my friend's room over and over again to escape it, only to end up back where I started every time. after the 6th or 7th time I gave up and just accepted I was dead. then it wore off and obviously I hadn't actually been running out of the room I was just sitting on his bed the whole time" I also had a real bad time with it when I tried it. Very fucking weird hallucinogen imo and I tend to like the ones I've tried at least outside of it. When I did it I fell backwards in the bedroom and it looked like the ceiling was stretching away towards the sky and it made me feel like I was falling endlessly. It scared the shit out of me at the time and felt like it lasted forever. I've always wondered if I just had a bad experience with it because I was like 13 when I tried it and I hadn't even gotten my hands on any shrooms or lsd at the time so it was my first experience with anything like that. Never bothered trying it again though and the experience made me wait a handful of years before I tried shrooms or lsd even though I'd had opportunities to before. Outside of dmt it's also the only time I've had any significant visuals from a drug
pizzamachine 02.24.23	*alcohol we need
chemicalmarriage 02.24.23	Heard of a guy in the early 90s that gave himself ayahuasca enimas while chewing peyote buttons at various in and out burger restrooms. Guess hes the singer for tool or some shit nowadays
onionbubs 02.24.23	i absolutely believe that mjk origin story
unclereich 02.25.23	Anyone here smok
chemicalmarriage 02.25.23	I guess In and Out were pretty down with a lot of the freak scene but politely asked him to stop spraying the ayahuasca up his ass. Guess he would go on at length about his mom at the counter until they said fuck it and let him have his way
unclereich 02.25.23	I’m just gunna share anecdotes now itt and the straightedge thread lol. I’m bored and snowed in. I had an ex who was fresh out of rehab but learned to “drink in moderation”. I knew that’s not how it worked but hey I was young dumb and in love. Oh boy did we ever get fucking blitzed together. One night of drinking in reno I projectile vomited after burning man, all over a hotel room she was staying at. In my stupor I thought I cleaned it up with towels. I found out the next morning to several loud screams that I had instead used her and her best friends clothes as towels for my puke. That was the first night we hooked up and we ended up dating for almost 4 years thereafter. She’s a drug and alcohol therapist now hachi machi !
unclereich 02.25.23	Sometimes I don’t know if the past exists and am only reminded of it by a subtle daydream of a memory
Colton 02.25.23	the past existed but it does not exist
nol 02.25.23	it’s not a competition
Ryus 02.25.23	no its a survey
nol 02.25.23	I like both in different scenarios
Hyperion1001 02.25.23	life itself is only a vision, a dream. nothing exists save empty space, and you. and you are but a thought.
Colton 02.25.23	do you guys fuck with babybels
nol 02.25.23	No I’m nol
MistaCrave 02.25.23	Definitely alcohol for me. I smoked a lot when I was a teenager even tho it gave me really bad anxiety and i stupidly kept pushing it until one day i ended up in a depersonalization episode that lasted like a month, easily the shittiest my mental state has ever been in my life. I drink pretty sparingly too but I def prefer the effects of alcohol over weed these days
nol 02.25.23	thoughts don’t have mass ho
nol 02.25.23	My favorite thing is when potheads make fun of alcoholics when they can’t go 1 hour without hitting something thc related or they’d have a full blown mental breakdown
nol 02.25.23	I, a man of culture, use both a bit too often
MistaCrave 02.25.23	Lol my favorite quote on that subject is "we're just going to 7/11 man why do you need to smoke weed first is there something wrong with you"
Colton 02.25.23	agree with the general sentiment there but going to 7/11 is probably the most reasonable possible scenario for smoking weed beforehand. literally every facet of the 7/11 experience necessitates weed consumption
Nomos2 02.25.23	ty syco722 I had some issues lately but have gotten rid of them for now & it's good to know I'm in control. Jeeze you guys are reminding me why I never want to do salvia or DMT. A truly out of body experience does not sound like a good time, and that's coming from someone with a lot of psychedelic experience. that's great she's a therapist now unclereich!
someguest 02.25.23	alcohol
asanisimasa 02.25.23	marijuana enthusiast; alcohol only works out half the time for me
deathschool 02.25.23	🥃 🍺
Ragnavius 02.25.23	ill tell you what you people smoke pole
Egarran 02.25.23	You make it sound like it's a bad thing
DoofDoof 02.25.23	alcohol there were maybe three years in my life I'd have answered weed though