LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Butt-hurtedness is welcome. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | And I left CTTS off of here because it's obvious |
Sheeple9000
08.03.10 | I concur with all your picks except for #3 |
geng
08.03.10 | You're gonna get destroyed for Converge. Personally I can take or leave them apart from Jane Doe. Agree with you about Protest and Mastodon. Hard to call A7X because everyone seems to hate them apart from a few people that love them. |
Terrifyer
08.03.10 | mastodon are pretty gay apart from Remission |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | I like Blood Mountain... the rest of their discog is ok. Brand New is painfully mediocre and Converge are nothing compared to Botch. |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | yeah I pretty much agree with all of this, although I feel like 3 and 4 are only overrated because they're covered in fanboy jizz, they're still better than like 99% of bands out there and both have released damn near perfect albums.
I was nodding my head solemnly and then very quickly as I read 7, 8 and 10 though. |
McCopper
08.03.10 | Mastodon are not overrated.They are actually underrated. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Far from it, my friend. |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | Remission and Leviathan are both excellent releases, and when those came out, you could make a case that they were underrated (although Rolling Stone was actually on their nuts just a month or two after Leviathan came out, so they were getting plenty of hype).
Now they suffer from BTBAM syndrome, i.e. a good underground band that has a lot of talent and potential gets tons of mainstream attention really quickly because they have a few accessible traits and are suddenly adorned to be gods before they really deserve it. Then they release a bloated, overly theatrical attempt at epicness that just kind of falls on its face (Colors for BTBAM and the last two albums from Mastodon). I would comment on TGM by BTBAM but I haven't even bothered to listen to it. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | It's about as predictable and boring as watching Dick Cheney have a heart attack |
Terrifyer
08.03.10 | they're massively overrated. far too many people seem to think they're one of the best and most important metal bands of the decade, which is about as far from the truth as it gets |
geng
08.03.10 | Watching Dick Cheney having a heart attack boring? I'd be jumping up and down and shrieking with laughter if I saw that. |
pmmets07
08.03.10 | ehhh Protest is pretty cool imo. Although I agree with most of these. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | The Great Misdirect suffers from what I like to call the "Donnie Darko" syndrome. Whoever says it's "groundbreaking" or "Genre-defining" is a pseudo-intellectual. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | "Watching Dick Cheney having a heart attack boring? I'd be jumping up and down and shrieking with laughter if I saw that"
My point with that statement was that the album is predictable, just like a Cheney heart-attack. And Protest is so overblown it's ridiculous |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | Sigh, am I the only one who likes Blood Mountain > Leviathan? |
East Hastings
08.03.10 | i don't know any girls that like a7x :O |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | once you're older I think you'll realize the folly of your choices Maniac |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | "i don't know any girls that like a7x :O"
Then you don't know any girls, and you're most likely still a virgin. |
SoapySoap
08.03.10 | Could only really get into Glassjaw's second album. Never cared for EYEWTKAS. |
BigHans
08.03.10 | Pseudo Guido Posturing Ape |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | I'm still trying to figure that one out, Hans |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Yeah, it's a Sputnik-centric list, Illuvatar. I could go way outside of Sputnik and this list would be over 100 bands long, so I narrowed it down. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Most of this shit is poop |
coleba
08.03.10 | I agree with Brand New except for 'The Devil and God...' which I thought was legitimate. Glassjaw isn't really overrated I don't think, I just think their sound is really grating and can tire you out really quickly. As for the metalcore on here that seems fairly obvious, though for what the genre is worth, ABR is pretty decent. I can't get into Converge at all; Jane Doe has a few great songs, but a few seem incredibly mediocre and I wept at them being #1 of decade. And @Maniac!, yes, Botch cannibalizes Converge. |
krazytom
08.03.10 | 1,6, and 9 only have like one album that gets any good ratings (to me anything over a 3.5ish) so I'd hardly say they criminally overrated , and I'd think In Flames should take DT's spot as DT was around before In Flames (and are much less ghey)
bands needed - Dream Theater, Megadeth |
East Hastings
08.03.10 | "i don't know any girls that like a7x :O"
Then you don't know any girls, and you're most likely still a virgin.
damn :( most of the people i know that like a7x are armenian or suburban white boys who blast city of evil in their toyota tundras haha |
Thor
08.03.10 | lol at calling someone a cock-chewing faggot and then saying In Flames is better than Dark Tranquillity |
BurningApollo
08.03.10 | I do agree with most of this list. I agree with your opinions about Brand New, Avenged Sevenfold, and August Burns Red. All are good enough bands that got too much attention for the amount of talent that they actually have. I don't agree with the comments on As I lay Dying, Protest the Hero, Mastodon and Glassjaw. Sure As I Lay Dying have gone stale with their latest release, but that doesn't mean that all their albums are under a 3. Shadows are Security and An Ocean between us are great albums. Sure there isn't such thing as Progressive Metalcore, but you can't deny that they can fucking shred. The guy's voice fits they guitar playing. Mastodon have slowly progressed from thick, heavy, metal to more of a prog/psychedelic metal sound throughout their discography. Crack the Skye just happens to be more of a popular sound that doesn't mean it's shit, just different. Mastodon has changed their sound and aren't going back. People need to just get the fuck over it. And Glassjaw is talented enough to be called legends, I may not call them legends but they are damn close. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | When did they let you out of the shed in the backyard, Thor? |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | BurningApollo- So you're telling me that Glassjaw belongs on the same level as Fugazi and ATDI? You're nuts. |
FromDaHood
08.03.10 | I totally agree with 1,3 and to a lesser extent 4 |
Prolapse
08.03.10 | you can be amazing at guitar but shit at writing songs burningapollo |
BurningApollo
08.03.10 | I'm saying that Glassjaw should be around the same vicinity as Fugazi and ATDI. Not on the exact same level but damn close. They have written some amazing songs, and Worship and Tribute is a post-hardcore necessity. But let me be clear Fugazi and ATDI are on a level of their very own.
Prolapse-I agree but i don't think that logic totally applies with Protest the Hero. Sure Kezia seemed to be repetitive after about 4 listens, but Fortress was arranged and written well. Again I'm not saying they are the most amazing metal band, but the aren't overrated at all imo. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Ummm...... no |
Prolapse
08.03.10 | they're pretty over-rated on this site, brand new are worse at their instruments but write better songs |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | If you actually think Glassjaw is anywhere near Fugazi, you should be taken out back and shot 4 or 5 times, just to make sure they got the "idiot" out of you. |
TheSpirit
08.03.10 | For A7x I really love Waking the Fallen and for As I Lay Dying i really like An Ocean Between Us... That being said i completely agree with the rest of the list |
witchxrapist
08.03.10 | Yo guys I'm caring so hard. |
Winsomniac
08.03.10 | There you have it, folks. The undisputed authority on all things music has spoken(or rather typed.)
DISAGREEMENT IS BLASPHEMY! |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Winsomniac- Are you stalking me?
If you disagree, that's cool, just back up your points, though. Don't come out swinging with "This list is wrong," then leave and never come back, otherwise, I will troll you |
TheSpirit
08.03.10 | Winsomniac's favorite bands everyone |
Masochist
08.03.10 | Brand New's great; AILD and ABR are good; the rest I don't care about.
[Standard Masochist Converge Insults Apply] |
Winsomniac
08.03.10 | Lol I listen to THREE bands on the list.
No one was praising the shit out of TAS; simply responding to the negative backlash you and a few others whipped up by saying in so many words that It's definitely not a godly album by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not an auto-1 TO US. Explanations have been posted numerous times. If you wanna blame someone for the TAS drama, that's all you, fromtheinside, and a few other guys, which is fine, whatever, but don't cry about the publicity you gave them.
Constellations was EASILY one of the best modern metalcore albums to come out in recent memory. If you don't like the style, that's fine. Doesn't mean everyone who does is by proxy a twit.
Personally, I'm not into AILD, Converge, Brand New(I KNOW, w/e), or the rest of the bands all that much, but I don't feel the need to make a list whining about how they're overrated.
So yeah, there's not a band on that list that is to me, 5-worthy at this point in time. I don't feel the need to denounce them for that reason, however.
Why not just make a list of EVERY popular artist in existence whose music you don't like?
Justin Bieber?
BrokenCYDE?
have you SEEN what scene kids nowadays listen to?
Owl City?
The list would never end. The point is, why are you crying about it? And I say crying because you made a list and before I even read it I knew TAS would be on it simply because you're THAT opinionated and stubborn.
So Bieber > TAS?
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LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Holy shit, stop crying dude. |
SpottedTrout
08.03.10 | As to 2, you seem more upset by what genre youtube faggots call them rather than the music.
Also, everyone doesn't have to agree with you on everything. Music isn't about how many tweedle-dees, junz, solos, or melodic lines you have. Its about how much you get out of it.
When it comes down to it, does it really matter what music people like, as long as they like it?
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jesusjuice1179
08.03.10 | disagree with 2, 5, and 10 |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Wow.... seems to me everyone's taking things way too seriously.
ANd no, I haven't a clue what youtube faggots call anything, considering I refuse to read the stupid comments people leave behind. |
Winsomniac
08.03.10 | LOL im crying, but made 0 lists about it to whore attention. okay. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Lol, whore attention. Yeah, because making a list about my opinion on a site that allows making lists about opinions is whoring myself out for attention, right? |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | August Burns Red are super amazing, silly boy |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Brokebackmetalcore?!?! That would be a gay movie I'd love to see!
I like AUgust Burns Red, but in no way, shape, or form are they "amazing" to me. |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | I'll send you the video.
And come on, they are the salty balls dangling in the ripe mouth of metalcore. They are gods among sheep. |
witchxrapist
08.03.10 | im gonna futt u in the buck |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Futt-Futt
In the buck |
theacademy
08.03.10 | but brand new made tdagarim!!!!!
aild blows
rest is some good and some bad, but nothing that comes close to the divinity that is IN FLAMES |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Weeelllllll, look who's back! |
731
08.03.10 | "Lol I listen to THREE bands on the list.
No one was praising the shit out of TAS; simply responding to the negative backlash you and a few others whipped up by saying in so many words that It's definitely not a godly album by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not an auto-1 TO US. Explanations have been posted numerous times. If you wanna blame someone for the TAS drama, that's all you, fromtheinside, and a few other guys, which is fine, whatever, but don't cry about the publicity you gave them.
Constellations was EASILY one of the best modern metalcore albums to come out in recent memory. If you don't like the style, that's fine. Doesn't mean everyone who does is by proxy a twit.
Personally, I'm not into AILD, Converge, Brand New(I KNOW, w/e), or the rest of the bands all that much, but I don't feel the need to make a list whining about how they're overrated.
So yeah, there's not a band on that list that is to me, 5-worthy at this point in time. I don't feel the need to denounce them for that reason, however.
Why not just make a list of EVERY popular artist in existence whose music you don't like?
Justin Bieber?
BrokenCYDE?
have you SEEN what scene kids nowadays listen to?
Owl City?
The list would never end. The point is, why are you crying about it? And I say crying because you made a list and before I even read it I knew TAS would be on it simply because you're THAT opinionated and stubborn.
So Bieber > TAS?"
Just commenting to quote this again. I mean, I haven't READ it, except for the last line, but one of these years I will. Bless you Winsomniac, bless you and your ass kickage and ability to take things too seriously and make overlong comments! |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Da 731 layin' down da BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!! |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | lol Winsomniac just got punk'd |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | that's right, I spelled it the Ashton Kutcher way |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Well, if Ashton Kutcher was a member of Sputnik, he'd still probably make more sense than Winsomniac. Hey, Brand New's still a band, Winsomniac. Is that why they're over-rated? |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | "Constellations was EASILY one of the best modern metalcore albums to come out in recent memory. If you don't like the style, that's fine. Doesn't mean everyone who does is by proxy a twit."
Now there's a man who knows his metalcore. Lovely. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Lol, I wouldn't agree with him, Brokeback. That shit will embarrass you in the long run. |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | ^I wonder who's alt that is |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Can I be someone's alt? |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | You can be my alt anytime sweety. |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | oh I meant Brokeback |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | "Constellations was EASILY one of the best modern metalcore albums to come out in recent memory. If you don't like the style, that's fine. Doesn't mean everyone who does is by proxy a twit."
but it isn't metalcore. it is NWOAHM. there are almost no hardcore influences in this type of metal anymore. |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | Oh Maniac! So naive. They are the very essence of hardcore, with their shouting and masculine breakdowns. |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | You make internet sarcasm an artform, brokeback. |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | at the risk of feeding this troll, I would say ABR have more of a claim to being metalcore than some other bands they're grouped with. Bands like Killswitch and Unearth were predominately metal to begin with, but on recent albums don't have any hardcore traits whatsoever, other than a few breakdowns here and there. All That Remains, Lamb of God and God Forbid are all just straight-up metal.
Constellations is dangerously close to having no hardcore elements at all though. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | yeah, they've been straying more and more away from "metalcore" or that hardcore-influence with each and every album.
And no, it's not even close to a "modern metalcore masterpiece." |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | "I would say ABR have more of a claim to being metalcore than some other bands they're grouped with."
I would have agreed on Thrill Seeker. but they are slowly doing exactly what killswitch did |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | The whole "calling NWOAHM metalcore" thing annoys the shit out of me |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | You remind me of my first love, Inveigh. So delicate, so fresh, so ready to accept the undeniable truth. Well done. |
Inveigh
08.03.10 | fair enough |
therayder
08.03.10 | Take Mastodon off this list right now. Agree with a lot of the others, although The Devil and God... is one of my favorite albums |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | and one million fappers can't be wrong. |
OpethFreak
08.03.10 | Agree with you on 1 . 2 . 3 . 9
But dude, DT and Mastodon/??? |
Emim
08.03.10 | 1. Wrong
2. Still wrong
3. Jane Doe isn't the classic
4. Their middle two albums are great; first was boring and haven't heard Daisy
5. The only album this would apply to is Messengers (P.S. Jane Doe is repetitive too)
6. Don't listen
7. In Flames is better, I agree
8. Blood and Thunder alone makes them awesome
9. Waking the Fallen is good and Nightmare is pretty consistent. Don't hate just to hate
10. Emery is a Post-Hardcore legend.
Needz moar overrated bands, plz. |
botb
08.03.10 | 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10 no. but nice try. |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | Emim: "3. Jane Doe isn't the classic"
Correct, it's 'You Fail Me' |
BrokebackMetalcore
08.03.10 | Bringonthebreakdown's wisdom is faultless. Bravo! |
botb
08.03.10 | i mean this statement alone
"NO! THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PROGRESSIVE METALCORE"
is hilarious.
a. BTBAM's The Silent Circus.
b. Protest The Hero isn't metalcore. |
Emim
08.03.10 | Emim: "3. Jane Doe isn't the classic"
Correct, it's 'You Fail Me'"
"I see what's happening here, George. You have ESPN or something! Quick, tell me what I'm thinking! Fantastic, George, fantastic!" |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | Obscure Seinfeld references ftw, Emim? |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | Maybe that Seinfeld moment was different from that quote....
Anyway.. You Fail Me > JD |
Emim
08.03.10 | It's heavily paraphrased, but it's taken from Seinfeld.
And yes, You Fail Me > JD |
Maniac!
08.03.10 | I now love you. |
Dryden
08.03.10 | list tells the truth |
LaCosaNostra13
08.03.10 | Thank you Dryden, good sir. |
FruityCatOfDoom
08.03.10 | yeah their all overrated but that doesnt mean there not enjoyable.
and lol at 9 |
TrapThemAlive
08.03.10 | Love 2 3 4. Fond of 8, but agree with the rest |
couldwinarabbit
08.03.10 | Agreed to all.
Everything other than Jane Doe sucks a lot.
Brand New has good lyrics on two album (Devil and Deja) everything else has bad lyrics and worse music.
Well done good sir. |
theacademy
08.04.10 | tool^ |
zarquan99
08.04.10 | 1. What?! they don't get any fucking praise!
2. agreed. shit band.
3. Maybe over-rated but they are still very good. Yes yes yes Jane Doe is classic bla bla bla but all their other albums are at least 4's as well. That's saying something.
4. completely agree.
5. What they don't get any praise either! I agree with your opinion though.
6. shit band. not over-rated either.... unless you hang with scene faggots.
7. agreed In Flames' old albums were better imo but DT stayed true when IF went all Nu-Metal on our asses.
8. what?
9. agreed. their new album is utter shit and just as bad if not worse as their old material.
10. their ok. |
Counterfeit
08.04.10 | You crazy nigga. 3 & 4 rule.
JD > ATF > YFM |
theacademy
08.04.10 | aild is gay
pth is good but like 8/10 good not 10/10 good
converge can be 10/10 good but they're usually 7/10 good
brand new wrote the book on being 4/10 good but hit 10/10 good status when they made tdagarim, whcih is the essence of 10/10 good.
abr is cute cuz they christian and play metul.
acadia strain is -3/10.
dt = lol when compared to the 11/10 good that in flames is capable of
mastodon = 9/10 good
a7x made waking the fallen.
glassjaw = pretty good, like 8/10 good. |
Ire
08.04.10 | list does not have animal collective or the smashing pumpkins
FUKKIN' FAAAAAAIL |
theacademy
08.04.10 | animal collective is the fuggin sudowoodo of music
means its guckin fay and worthless |
SylentEcho
08.04.10 | Dark Tranquillity are good. All the others are meh. |
TMobotron
08.05.10 | Glassjaw is awesome, and to say something like
"If you actually think Glassjaw is anywhere near Fugazi, you should be taken out back and shot 4 or 5 times, just to make sure they got the "idiot" out of you."
Just makes you sound stupid as fuck. |
LaCosaNostra13
08.05.10 | Someone's a butthurt Glassjaw fan!
*Cocks shotgun* So, do we want to do this the easy way, or my way? |
Spec
08.06.10 | Avenged Sevenfold being overrated lol. |
PanasonicYouth
08.06.10 | agreed with 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, and 9
goddamn the new sevenfold album is terrible |