Blackbelt54: My Top 25 Hardcore Albums

Inveigh 02.21.11	great list, but there are a good amount of discs on here that I'd put about 1. if you haven't already... check out Judge - New York Crew Verse - Aggression 7 Seconds - The Crew Champion - Promises Kept Youth of Today - Disengage
Inveigh 02.21.11	*above, not about lol
Aids 02.21.11	(listen to emo): Off Minor - The Heat Death of The Universe Saetia - A Retrospective City of Caterpillar - City of Caterpillar Gospel - The Moon Is A Cold Dead World The Saddest Landscape - You Will Not Survive Sed Non Satiata - Sed Not Satiata Daitro - Laissez Vivre Les Squellettes etc.....
WeepingBanana 02.21.11	Bane - Give Blood Touche Amore - To the Beat of a Dead Horse
thediamondcanopy 02.21.11	lack of Converge makes me weep
Blackbelt54 02.21.11	yeah the descendents is a pretty big stretch, i'll admit...
kris. 02.21.11	goddamn people need to learn what hardcore is 1 is not hardcore neither is 10 and lol at converge being hardcore goddamn
Blackbelt54 02.21.11	what is 1 considered? ik that 10 really isn't idk why i had it in there, and ik that converge isnt hardcore. im not good with genres and stuff
AmericnZero02 02.21.11	I'd call 1 post hardcore.
Inveigh 02.21.11	I think you can get away with calling 1 hardcore, but I've always thought of it as post-hardcore. the rest of Refused's discog is decidedly hardcore in nature though.
Scoot 02.21.11	dangers - anger is my #1
AliW1993 02.21.11	Very nice list, I really need to check out Husker Du.
eternium 02.21.11	Both 3 and 1 are debatable but acceptable. Amazing list, quite similar to mine.
LegendofPittman 02.21.11	Geez this list is extremely good.
Adabelle 02.21.11	I only have 5-and-a-half of these, I need to sort my life out.
couldwinarabbit 02.21.11	1 kinda sucks but you have awesome other albums so cool list bro.
WeepingBanana 02.22.11	also, wrong discharge album
ShadowRemains 02.22.11	"...and cursed suck" waitwut
cvlts 02.22.11	what the fuck, hep! so it ain't the swarm, who gives a fuck
demigod! 02.22.11	how the hell isn't converge hardcore? they're just a different style fucking elitists
patroneyes 02.22.11	glad to see nausea on here, i love that album pushing the envelope of hardcore with a bunch of these albums, though
Aids 02.22.11	The Shape of Punk To Come is post-hardcore (but I see "hardcore" as somewhat of an umbrella term anyway) Converge are Hardcore/Metalcore, I don't know why calling Converge hardcore makes you "lol," it's what they are. but who cares, arguing about genres is stupid
Inveigh 02.22.11	good point Pit, although I always though of Zen Arcade as more hardcore punk than post-hardcore (we're splitting hairs obviously at this point). I mean, if hardcore's the umbrella term, then yeah Converge should count, because Integrity's on here (they're essentially metalcore too). genre debates are so motherfucking confusing after awhile.
porch 02.22.11	zen arcade broke all the rules of traditional hardcore and the bassist had a handlebar moustache
Inveigh 02.22.11	funny because that's now pretty much rule #1 of starting a hardcore band
Blackbelt54 02.22.11	yeah i kinda used "hardcore" pretty loosely
AgentYorkMorgan 02.22.11	Glad to finally see a Bad Brains album on a "top hardcore" list I love that band
cvlts 02.22.11	god i was waiting for that
Spec 02.22.11	Needs Verse- Aggression.
Inveigh 02.22.11	"Glad to finally see a Bad Brains album on a "top hardcore" list I love that band" who the fuck is arcade fire
cvlts 02.22.11	was a little hungry for more, but veigh satisfied it
Spec 02.22.11	Who did "Songs To Fuck To?"
Titan50 02.22.11	>no Rites Of Spring >wat
Creature 02.22.11	I would have added Hatebreed - Satisfaction is the Death of Desire, but nonetheless a solid list
EyesWideShut 02.22.11	list has some amazing shit man.. I got Refused as h/c also and Converge is to. for recs check em out' chokehold hatred surge backstabbers inc mind eraser extortion
MrSnuffles 02.23.11	lack of converge makes me happy.
patroneyes 02.23.11	http://bit.ly/hb2mN0
BringMeABrick 02.23.11	Siiick list.
djunior 02.23.11	listen to Mountain Man
Aids 02.23.11	Mountain Man the non-hardcore band is so fucking good listen to that Mountain Man
LifeInABox 02.24.11	lacking Cro Mags and the Bad Brains LP is too low. Some good bands, some not so good bands.
omnipanzer 02.24.11	lots o goodness but no Hatebreed :^( Cheers on the rest though.
ConsiderPhlebas 02.24.11	"goddamn people need to learn what hardcore is 1 is not hardcore" -UhhKris "While Refused remains fucking dead for now, their music lives on in a must have collection of the most crucial hardcore ever created." -Epitaph records "Well, we weren’t crusties by any means. Our two favourite bands were Manliftbanner and Born Against – and then Slayer of course. But we clearly defined ourselves as a punk/hardcore band. I mean, there was a metal edge to our music, but in the attitude, in what we did, in how we did it, in the politics we had, and in the life we led, we definitely identified as a punk band." -Dennis Lyxzen, vocalist from Refused
Aids 02.24.11	people getting all pissy about Refused being called Hardcore are ridiculous. personally I'd call TSOPTC post-hardcore but is it really that big of a deal?
ConsiderPhlebas 02.24.11	Call it what you want, that's not an issue. When retarded kids who know nothing about hardcore start saying people need to learn what hardcore is, it's time to bring out the big guns.
Funeralopolis 12.13.14	"Cryptopsy, Gorguts, and Ulcerate would trash half of these hardcore acts just by heaviness alone. I'm not saying the list is wrong, it's just, hardcore's "metal" moments, rather, it's heaviest sections cannot hold a candle to death metal. I.E. Deftones - Adrenaline vs Cryptopsy - None So Vile. Some may say I can't do that, "two different genre's" argument, but screw it! I'm me I do what I want! jk I'm not that ignorant, but first getting into metal, listening to slayer and pantera and stuff, the thought came to me that, "This stuff is heavy, but there's gotta be something heavier." Another example, the first CD I ever listened to was Rusted Root's 'When I Woke.' That first track, "Drum Trip," I thought NO SONG in the world could top it, and then I met Jamie Saint Merat...and now I'm in a battle of wishing I had my ignorance back (ignorance is bliss), then I digress and say FUCK THAT and thank sputnik m/... Awesome list regardless dude, Shai being #1 is deserved, and y u no have Chain of Strength or Inside Out?!? =)"