someone
10.22.20 | I know
And those I don't know I will learn.
Also what do you mean nobody knows Suicide? |
cordwainerbird
10.22.20 | thank you very much my friend
oh no a ton of ppl know about suicide but nobody really talks about their second album, which i like better than their self-titled one. as the review for it so eloquently puts it they uh "take on synthpop and win gloriously" |
WeepingBanana
10.22.20 | 5, 10, 14 rule so much |
Sinternet
10.22.20 | i'd say 13, 14 and 15 have reasonably large acclaim
but good call on 3 it rules hard |
WeepingBanana
10.22.20 | Haruomi Hosono’s solo stuff is also great! |
Ryus
10.22.20 | ya 5 9 and 10 rule. good genre good albums |
cordwainerbird
10.23.20 | tysm y'all. yea i put some more well known ones toward the end kind of just to tie the list together but i can take em out if they're too mainstream.
@weepingbanana yes I love Hosono's solo stuff! always feel like im melting when i listen to it |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | surprised neither ghandhi nor sandwich have seen this |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | i have seen those two around and i think it's finally time for me to go "notice me senpai" like 3 years later or something |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | do it theyre good boys |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | woah good list i wrote the review for 8 everyone should check it
will check out some that i dont know on here |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | i was gonna say i'll go bug them but then i remembered i have no idea how i ever actually end up on their pages. this site is a maze i feel like im in a giant supermarket like that one allen ginsberg poem |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | u click on the name |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | oh FUCK yea phero! that was such a good find for me last year, John Maus sated my fucked-up postpunk thirst for a good long while |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | WHERE ARE THEIR NAMES
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parksungjoon
01.06.21 | in threads theyve posted in? or just go here
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/user/ghandhilion
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/user/sandwichbubble |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | yeah cord the sputnik website is pretty good, but the sputnik forum is the real big brain destination |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | i feel like an absolute relic. i'll just choose to believe that makes me look wiser and not dumber
thanks a lot! |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >i feel like an absolute relic
tell me about it |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | huh. i did just posted a bit on sputnik forum but it seems a little dead there? less lively than main site at least. but i'll give it a shot too lol |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | what was that old chatbox that small time websites used to use, could see it on piczo or something
it's important |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | sitting and feeling like i was unearthed thousands of years ago like an ancient alien is definitely one of my pastimes |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | nah the forum sucks, mort has 1,353 comments on it and that says what u need to know |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | sounds VERY familiar phero |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | so what u are saying in fact is that it is a SMALL brain destination. |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >what was that old chatbox that small time websites used to use, could see it on piczo or something
fuck is it the one that made a sound every time you joined |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | yes yes the one that made the sound ! it was on e v e r y t h i n g
kinda like pre-discord too on the actual website
and yeah forum is small brain big brain destination agreed |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | this sounds so familiar and i can't place it. i spent too much time playing AdventureQuest and watching "Pokemon Fire Red Hack Mario Vs. Elite Four Scatman" to remember much else from that period of time |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >AdventureQuest
! |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >yes yes the one that made the sound ! it was on e v e r y t h i n g
the one that assigned you a weird cutesy name every time you entered a new room? |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | lmao found it - xat chat box
look at that for some nostalgia
https://imgur.com/a/Nw6zqyp |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | thats the fuckin one lmao |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | wonder if sput ever had an xat |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >kinda like pre-discord too on the actual website
hate to be that boomer but pre-discord was definitely IRC and nothingelse compares |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | >AdventureQuest
fuck I remember it so clearly. what an ass game but back then it was so magical. remember watching "linkin park - breaking the habit" amvs to it and also several other anime like dragon ball z i think. i like dbz a lot because it's just a bunch of dumb himbos screaming and punching each other - which is pretty hot ngl
>xat chat box
OH HOLY SHIT yea that's it!! omg |
Pheromone
01.06.21 | i was more of a habbo hotel kinda cat 😎
and you are right park |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >what an ass game but back then it was so magical.
really?
it was pretty complex compared to a lot of flash based stuff. the art and flavour was bad maybe |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | > IRC
was growing up as irc was getting phased out. really want to hear more stories about what it was like being on there as well as BBS bc as a 80s/90s cyberpunk lover I find it pretty fascinating |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | >it was pretty complex compared to a lot of flash based stuff. the art and flavour was bad maybe
u could very well be right. it's been a long time since i revisited it and last time i did i probably approached it with a more cynical outlook than i should've bc the art looked so dated to me then. it was actually pretty cool yea |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | ah hell i'll finish those descs on the list now. why the fuck not |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | tis done
edit: damn sputnik losing the fucking album covers, get it together ur fallin apart here!! |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | aq drew a lot of influence from mmorpgs, from the f2p + buy-in premium account model to the z-tokens, the content updates and events and even the way it worked as a flash client interfacing with their servers... it was an mmo in all but the multiplayer aspect... and i liked the way they implemented some older feeling stats system and stat check dice rolls into the quests, dont see that much in most rpgs these days
for a 2003 flash game it was impressive |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | i'm honestly impressed at how well you remember AQ, or at the very least that you took a good honest look at it since its release. this whole time I've been writing it off as a meme but yea, looking back it was definitely impressive.
incredibly immersive in spite of its art too - i think it accomplished this through the sheer number of options it had. the world felt truly interactable and i loved it for that |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >i'm honestly impressed at how well you remember AQ
imagine being a nerd lol
i played it a fair bit at the time although not in 10+ years |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | > imagine being a nerd lol
yea can't relate B)
jk. i'm a game dev, how can i not be. my main inspirations are 90s adventure games mainly but AQ along with games like Pokemon definitely formed some of my earliest sensibilities |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >i'm a game dev
my condolences, its probably harder than ever to get noticed / not starve to death |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | >its probably harder than ever to get noticed / not starve to death
oh yea it is! i'm overdue on an article about my experiences. i've been doing indie games for like 6-7 years and i still don't have a fully released game. projects stack on top of one another bc the old one gets stale and their scopes get smaller and smaller so that maybe one can actually get done - it's not happened. i dont think ppl have an idea abt how much work it is
recently switched my major in college from game design too and need to talk about that also. very hard not to be disillusioned abt games... but i rly do love the medium to death and want to believe it's worth it |
parksungjoon
01.06.21 | thats.... pretty much what i expected to hear
switched majors cuz its not not employable enough? i have a friend who was in one those and she seemed happy with it but its not an available major here |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | absolutely not for the employability - i'm in it all for the art. the overt focus on employability is precisely what drove me away -- too much focus on the polish and the technical aspects rather than the creativity. no room for honest-to-god innovation or unconventionality. i was in there with a bunch of people who didn't know what the fuck they wanted - to make art or money. well i'm in it to make art and if that's what you're in it for too then the industry is not for you - and the indie gaming sphere hardly is either. 80% of the indie game sphere is people creating with their eyes and not their heart
i'll just be trying have the most fun i can and in the process carve out a niche like tobing fox and that smash hit "Blundertale". that man feels like a kindred spirit that houses too much talent in one body. |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | what a night. i did not expect to be typing all this out on sputnik music dot com
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parksungjoon
01.06.21 | >i was in there with a bunch of people who didn't know what the fuck they wanted - to make art or money
thats sad... cs majors being way too into money and not that interested in problem solving / etc was sad enough already but this is even sadder... |
cordwainerbird
01.06.21 | yeah... i don't want to be cynical but it was very discouraging. the way we talk about the gaming medium is artistic but the way its produced is largely soulless rn. that was a hard truth to learn
i've switched to animation and am definitely having a better time |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | THE ALBUM COVERS GOT FIXED, POG |
parksungjoon
01.11.21 | swee |
Cygnatti
01.11.21 | don't be seen with me T_T |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | YEAAAAAA such a good song cyg |
Trundle
01.11.21 | awesome, will get on this |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | :^) :heart: |
sixdegrees
01.11.21 | Tyfys |
Trundle
01.11.21 | just started listening to Richenel
it's fucking awesome |
Trundle
01.11.21 | cordwainerbird, you better pass me some toast for this jam |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | Richenel was and is amazing, RIP. I reached out to him maybe three or four years ago and asked to include some of his work off La Diferencia for a surreal horror-adventure game I was working on abt a Bob Dylan-type folk singer in the 60s. Rich happily obliged and showed so much genuine interest in the project - what an incredible and genuine dude, and an unknown gem of a queer icon honestly
the game still isn't done but I want to release it in dedication to him :(
I'm so glad i can help others check out his music |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | SO HAPPY UR ENJOYIN IT DUDE |
parksungjoon
01.11.21 | tfw |
Trundle
01.11.21 | wow, everything about that story is awesome, i knew i had to check it out when i saw Yazoo listed as a related artist, i've only heard a couple of Yazoo songs before but i loved them |
Trundle
01.11.21 | only 4 bucks on itunes as well, easy purchase |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | so fucking glad dude |
DrMaximus
01.11.21 | Will check these |
Trundle
01.11.21 | not as much as me, i totally needed this today, to unwittingly support a Queer artist on the same day a member called me a "cocksucker" for literally no reason, with the patented follow up justification post of "not that he has anything against cocksuckers" can't help but feel for the people that have to deal with that stuff all the time.
even worse, he called me "Joe Rogan" |
parksungjoon
01.11.21 | lol who |
Trundle
01.11.21 | nolerthebowler |
parksungjoon
01.11.21 | lol |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | what the fuck
what an ass, sry that happened
support this queer artist also when i release my games or finally launch my avgn/mr plinkett/mts3k/max headroom-esque youtube channel |
Trundle
01.11.21 | ya, i reported the posts, which were removed, but still, i thought slurs were an insta-ban these days |
Trundle
01.11.21 | d00d i've been rewatching every AVGN episode again for the umptennth time,
just finished ep 91. |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | i would test the theory by using slurs on myself like "the silent protector" meme |
parksungjoon
01.11.21 | >but still, i thought slurs were an insta-ban these days
if they were ghostbird wouldnt still be around |
cordwainerbird
01.11.21 | oh fuck yeah dude! ive also rewatched all the episodes like a dozen times by now. i've always been fascinated with the 2006-2011 era of avgn in particular. they just have this weird lo-fi vibe to them |
Trundle
01.11.21 | ^ain't that the truth, ghost is a walking meme |
Trundle
01.24.21 | k so i moved onto oppenheimer analysis, it was also amazing, which should i go to next?
already heard tones on tail and i love them too, anything else like them with more goth overtones? |
SailorMars
01.24.21 | oooo these seem lovely |
ReefaJones
01.24.21 | Where is Cabaret Voltaire? |
SailorMars
01.25.21 | up ur butt |
cordwainerbird
01.27.21 | "Where is Cabaret Voltaire?"
on my favorite albums list jhsbv
i'd add some cab but the theme between these is mostly spacey/abstract and cab is more grounded/gritty |
cordwainerbird
01.27.21 | do love me some cab tho. interesting because that suicide album is also very gritty but it's a lot more surreal abt it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.27.21 | Everything I've heard here is sick, will check more |
AnimalsAsSummit
01.27.21 | 4 is amazing. 15 looks very cool |
cordwainerbird
01.27.21 | :heart: thanks a lot yall |
Pheromone
01.28.21 | check this cord - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biaIWJdIjpQ
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cordwainerbird
01.30.21 | this fucking rules phero thank u for this
u have correctly identified my uh, as the kids say "my shit" |
Gestapo
01.30.21 | This list fucks |
cordwainerbird
01.30.21 | i appreciate u :heart: |
Cygnatti
01.30.21 | @cordwainer, pls jam dis bro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmLy0twS4o |
cordwainerbird
01.30.21 | cyg i LOVE this - cant help but feel like it's missing a hook but still found it very enjoyable. thanks a lot
i rly love the recs. ive done a lot of research to find more music like this and altho i will sometimes turn up with stuff it always feels im missing some real good ones |
Cygnatti
01.30.21 | LFG |