TheTripP: Vinyl, the Fedora of music...

Crawl 09.13.16	Vinyl has a much much better sound quality than CD.
BullettoBinary2 09.13.16	It varies from person to person, but my reasons are 1. sound. Its just different. Some would argue better, for me it depends on what the music is. Theres still artists I prefer digitally for some reason. 2. packaging/physical copy. Its cool having a hard copy, and i prefer it to CDs because the art is 12x12 and vinyl records often have additional art in the gatefolds or cool pull out posters or something. 3. buying experience/collectability. Its a unique feeling going to a record store and finding your favorite music on vinyl. And also cool to have a growing physical collection with rarities. It feels very personal. Ive never ordered a record online (except a few preorders) because i think going to the record store is a great time. 4. playing experience- It really is cool taking out a record, putting it on the tray, and dropping the needle. It makes listening to music very intentional. Youre focused and that doesnt always happen considering how accessible music is these days. I think the best comparison is reading a paper book vs an ebook. Sure, its the same content, but its just different because of the tactile nature of a book.
DominionMM1 09.13.16	a well pressed vinyl record sounds better than just about any other format. it sounds warmer and has more depth imo. another part is simply the ritual of taking the record out of the jacket, putting it on the platter, dropping the needle and hearing that initial contact with the vinyl also some people just like collecting things. it's a pretty cool feeling when you go to the record store and find a record that you've been looking for for quite some time.
guitarded_chuck 09.13.16	vinyl makes panties drop so theres that
DominionMM1 09.13.16	tell me about it man. i was baggin pelt all over the place after all the ladies heard about my semi rare pressing of hemispheres.
bnelso55 09.13.16	Bulletto nailed it.
bnelso55 09.13.16	guitarded also nailed it.
AsleepInTheBack 09.13.16	they both did indeed nail it
AsleepInTheBack 09.13.16	and dominion
Nazzadan 09.13.16	The only reason I'm not getting into vinyl collecting is because I know I will go way overboard
theNateman 09.13.16	I like the forced commitment that vinyl gives. You can't skip around between your favorite songs, when you put on a record you're committing yourself to the record for the duration of that side. There's no shuffle there's no skip. You gotta enjoy every second of that side. I like that. You
WellFedWhiteMale 09.13.16	I think they look cool, plus what else am I going to do with all these frames? Cram four CDs in them? Nah.
DungeonBoy 09.13.16	BullettoBinary2 has a very good answer, but I'd also like to add about the experience. When you listen to a vinyl record, you aren't driving to the store or going for a run, you ideally are sitting in front of your best stereo actively engaging in an album with the best physical display of artwork and lyrics available. collecting is also nice ;)
CalculatingInfinity 09.13.16	To answer your 4 questions: 1. Well that depends on what medium you prefer. Each medium has its positives and negatives. 2. CD's are usually much cheaper, but Vinyl sounds better a lot of albums. 3. Fuck them. You're still supporting the artist, so you do you and buy from iTunes. 4. A bunch of vinyls have only limited print, CD prints are usually much more numerous.
Snake. 09.13.16	the plural of vinyl is vinyl smh
TheTripP 09.13.16	It does sound like a lot of effort and money I don't have, but then again I waste most of my money on music one way or another... I love the idea though. When I physically buy an album it's either because I really enjoy the artwork or it's a favorite band or musician of mine.
TheTripP 09.13.16	@SnakeDelilah fixed thanks for letting me know
oldsoul 09.13.16	A lot of people jump straight to the sound quality and how it's superior to other forms of listening, but I guess I'm not audiophilic enough to notice (or my player sucks). Like Bullet said, having the physical copy is nice, and there often is some additional material included in a vinyl purchase that might not be present in the cd package - though sometimes it's the opposite. Having the 12x12 artwork is sweet though. Collectability is also a factor, some pressings have limited runs of variants, so it's kind of cool to have something that's more unique. Vinyl is typically more expensive (especially these days since it's hip, and production costs are higher), so it can be kind of difficult to stick to only vinyl purchases, especially if it's something out of print. I generally only buy vinyls of albums that I know are special to me.
BullettoBinary2 09.13.16	Yeah when i just wanna jam some songs between classes I connect to bluetooth from my phone or whatever, but if i really want to listen, i sit down in front of my speakers and put on a record
CalculatingInfinity 09.13.16	If I lived on my own in my own house I'd take the time to properly play and get Vinyl, however most of my fav bands don't have Vinyl or they're way too expensive. I much prefer packaging and content over the actual format anyway.
DanielNightLewis 09.13.16	I tend to buy most of my records from bands at shows. it is also a way to show support to them and get a cool looking package. The bands I am in to largely will never see a penny from streaming services and tend to put out vinyl rather than cd's. so that definitely informs my buying habits.
TheTripP 09.13.16	I feel most if not all streaming services take away from the artists and I want to show support to any music I appreciate. That's why I stick to getting the album from the band, buying via iTunes, or buying from Bandcamp.
DungeonBoy 09.13.16	I tend to buy most of my records from bands at shows [2] same here dude, and every time i look at those records it reminds me of the show I purchased it.
DungeonBoy 09.13.16	Vinyl or not, at the end of the day all that really matters is if you enjoy the music you're listening to you support the band in some way or another.
CalculatingInfinity 09.13.16	Vinyl or not, at the end of the day all that really matters is if you enjoy the music you're listening to you support the band in some way or another. [2]
BullettoBinary2 09.13.16	Every record is a conversation starter too. Ive made friends showing off my collection, had great talks with record store owners, even met my fav artist (Aaron Weiss of mewithoutYou) because i was trying to get a record signed
BullettoBinary2 09.13.16	[3]
DanielNightLewis 09.13.16	Totally, each record is a memory too. It's great. If a band doesn't have any records, I'll buy a shirt. If no merch at all, then I'll make a donation at the show or throw some cash at them via bandcamp. But on the whole I prefer to buy records where I can.
CalculatingInfinity 09.13.16	I wish I could have a story behind a bunch of my items, but I make up for that by the grand quality and rarely of some of my items.
DanielNightLewis 09.13.16	I've got some really cool rare items (mostly screamo stuff) but the stuff I tend to show off if people come over tends to be stuff I've picked up at a show that my friends might not have heard of before.
NorthernSkylark 09.13.16	I mainly buy CDs because it would be way too expensive to get all the albums I want to own on vinyl. I have +600 CDs now and about 80 vinyl, so yeah.
TheTripP 09.13.16	@NorthernSkylark Holy hell!
NorthernSkylark 09.13.16	What can I say, I like albums. Also, I never skip songs on cd, so that's not a problem for me.
wham49 09.13.16	I think all mediums are useful, I am a vinyl geek, but use cd's, phone, youtube whatever to listen to music. but when I am home and want to really listen to music, it is vinyl all the way, sound is so deep and powerful, compared to the tin of cd's, also the artwork, and the inclusions like a special sleeve with cool things on it, or a gatfold, fun to look at, also it has to keep your attention, every 22 minutes or so you have to get up and change it, I think it makes me pay closer attention to the music so I know when I have to get up and change it, I lose focus with a 3 hour playlist, IDK it just fills the room so warmly
TheTripP 09.13.16	It does sound like atmospherically it would have a warmer tone at least in your head
wham49 09.13.16	I think it depends on the time period of the music being made, it was org. made on analog, and was made to be played on vinyl it may sound better, not sure how new albums being put on vinyl sound, it might not sound as good as old music on vinyl
Ashen 09.13.16	I don't normally spend more than $15 on a record unless it's something exceedingly special. for the most part, i like the packaging/artwork and i enjoy spending a few minutes on weekends digging through the shelves at the record store. the rarity of vinyl pressings is not all that important to me, although i often come home with albums i've never heard before that i grabbed for a couple bucks and find out some of them were quite limited in their production.
DominionMM1 09.13.16	"I think it depends on the time period of the music being made, it was org. made on analog, and was made to be played on vinyl it may sound better, not sure how new albums being put on vinyl sound, it might not sound as good as old music on vinyl" all depends on the quality of the mastering and pressing
TheTripP 09.13.16	The process of making vinyl themselves sound really cool
Masochist 09.13.16	I enjoy certain genres much more on Vinyl than on CD--folk, country, jazz, post rock, etc. To me, those types of genres are ones that help you get into a mood, and listening to them on vinyl accentuates that mood vs. on an album. I really think it has to do with the sound quality--not that it's superior, but that it's different (because the record is actually physically producing a sound that is then amplified, rather than a CD using a laser to read the data). That natural quality lends itself to the listening experience, IMO.
TheTripP 09.13.16	And that's what attracts me to the idea the most
ZippaThaRippa 09.13.16	I've heard recently that the advantages of physical media as far as sound quality goes is vastly overstated. That being said, I like LPs because it's like having a piece of visual art to go with the musics. Some album covers just look really cool in a large format. And artists do all kinds of creative things with the record itself. Sometimes you might get record exclusive bonus tracks. Sometimes you might get an alternate song version. Sometimes you might get a cool poster. LPs are just fun.
Conmaniac 09.13.16	Bulleto/guitarded nailed it [2]
TheTripP 09.13.16	Thanks everybody for the feedback, went a lot better than I thought! There may be a list in the future on what kind of vinyl players to go for and such... only time will tell :)
wham49 09.14.16	quality of pressing is yes very important, think recording equip. is as important also zippa, you will hear reports both ways, I once saw a demo on tv with the same album on vinyl and digital, and what it seems to be is the depth, like on the vinyl you might here a subtle tamborine, or something and on cd it is not there, plus there is a bottom end on vinyl that is not there on cd plus it is too easy to search youtube or order a disk on amazon, the hunt to find out of print vinyl or a jem you never heard of makes vinyl collecting so much fun
TheGreatQ 09.14.16	FLAC is the fedora of music.
ScuroFantasma 09.14.16	"I've heard recently that the advantages of physical media as far as sound quality goes is vastly overstated." Yes and no. You can definitely download digital files that match physical quality, but barely anyone does because ~memory~ and "I can't even hear the difference" so you end up with heaps of low bitrate files everwhere. With physical you don't have a choice, you just get high quality.
HeckToPay 09.14.16	vinyl sounds better (usually) and gives off a more comfy vibe, but cd's are easier to store and are cheaper. theres good arguments for both
Typhoon24 09.14.16	cause collecting records is mad cool man disagree and ur house gets burned down srsly tho i like the feeling of the needle dropping a lot. also p cool to have a drawer/shelf full of em
Shadowmire 09.14.16	The idea that vinyl is a strictly superior format in terms of audio fidelity is misguided, but the fact of the matter is that it's also usually true. Besides any claims of added warmth and atmosphere, vinyl records are 'better' for one easily perceivable reason: dynamics. The popularization of CDs as the 'primary' medium for music releases facilitated all the loudness war practices still pervading music right now. But it's not that simple, either; vinyl records released as 'collectors items' using the CD masters are effectively just quieter versions of the same release with the same crushed dynamics.
SitruK6 09.14.16	Well personally i only collect CDs and here's why: 1) I lack the space to have a proper vinyl collection, even right now with my CD collection I'm pretty much struggling in space. 2) the difference in price between vinyl and CD is huge where i live, literally i can get 4 CDs for the price of 1 vinyl. 3) i just don't have the time to go vinyl hunting
Archelirion 09.14.16	I just sold my vinyl player to my friend a few days back. I had no issues with it as such, but I just didn't really use it in comparison to digital formats. However, what I love about vinyl is the physical entity itself. The artwork, the disc, everything about the tangibility is glorious.
ArizonaIcedOutBoys 09.14.16	shuddup, mr. a a ron
DinosaurJones 09.14.16	FLAC is the fedora of music. [2]
Sinternet 09.14.16	indie chicks get wet over it that's why i always keep my bon iver record at hand
RadicalEd 09.14.16	FLAC is the fedora of music. [123]
guitarded_chuck 09.14.16	"tell me about it man. i was baggin pelt all over the place after all the ladies heard about my semi rare pressing of hemispheres." lmao
TheTripP 09.14.16	@ArizonaIcedTea I done messed up I just heard what FLAC is and still have no idea xD
Sinternet 09.14.16	it stands for Fat Lonely Anxious Chauvinist
rabidfish 09.14.16	FLAC is the fedora of music. /endthread
emester 09.14.16	"FLAC is the fedora of music" Even as an audiophile myself, I 100% agree. The margin of difference between 320kbps CD and FLAC are so miniscule that it would be idiotic to sacrifice that huge chunk of hard drive space. If you want FLAC stream it imo Back to vinyl, while it is expensive, there is something alluring about analog sound, even if, contrary to common belief, it doesn't sound better than some lossless formats like WAV, DSD and so on. It's a hands on way to listen to music that goes beyond just amassing mp3 files. It doesnt have that pick up and play ease of use but you dont really get that warm sound anywhere else.
wham49 09.14.16	not sure why you guys think vinyl is so much more expensive than disk, I started collecting vinyl 15 years ago because the opposite was true, maybe the new releases are more expensive or buying repops of vintage stuff on amazon but go to record shops with top quality vintage stuff and it is as or cheaper than a shit version on disk
AtomicWaste 09.14.16	"FLAC is the fedora of music." [123456] I'm a full-on vinyl collector. I basically realized that all of my music consumption was digital anyway and I just like having something bigger, more collectible, and more aesthetically pleasing than CDs whose jewel cases seem to get smashed up in a matter of days. I simply find it to be a more valuable product and, again, since most of my consumption is digital, I basically use buying vinyl as an excuse to support the musicians (and will happily pay the higher cost to provide support and gain a superior tangible product). A lot of it has to do with the fact that I've always loved album art too, and I really enjoy displaying it. I think I have 14 albums up on my walls right now with several boxes full of other albums in my closet. I plan on decorating more of my house with them sometime soon because it looks absolutely rad.
Calc 09.14.16	^^ it's like your me atomic. literally the exact same reason for me. I just don't hang mine up
jagride 09.14.16	vinyl fetishism is way grosser and more pervasive than hardcore flac nerds
Calc 09.14.16	well duh, vinyl is perfect for today's 20 somethings. the fact that we know what FLAC is is pretty nerdy honestly. not a lot of your regular person knows it's a thing but everyone knows what a vinyl is
AtomicWaste 09.14.16	"^^ it's like your me atomic. literally the exact same reason for me. I just don't hang mine up" This is why we're bros :) If you've ever wanted to hang 'em up, buy mirror hangers and fasten them to the wall with those in a triangle shape. You can get like 12 mirror hangers for 2 or 3 bucks, which gives you a mount for 4 albums. Significantly cheaper (and simpler) than buying $20 frames.
DinosaurJones 09.14.16	Well, time to start decorating my apartment. My vinyl are just chilling on the shelf.
Calc 09.14.16	honestly that'd prolly look good in my little office room i'm gonna try it and see how it looks
jagride 09.14.16	smh
wham49 09.14.16	please do not hang record on your wall unless it is a double or something, listen to them they are music, I have a few hanging, because they are doubles that are trashed with good covers
AtomicWaste 09.14.16	The best thing about the mirror hanger thing is that you can just slide them in and out whenever you like for a listen.
wham49 09.14.16	ok makes me feel better.LOL
TheTripP 09.14.16	I would love to see a pic of the vinyls hanging up!
WeepingBanana 09.15.16	i just buy vinyl so i can flip it for mad $$$ on discogs lmao
TheSpaceMan 09.15.16	vinylses are cool
Asdfp277 09.15.16	flac sounds better, but yeah space
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