Apology To Daitro & Thursday
2009-10-26 by Dave de Sylvia STAFF | 74 Replies | 1595 Views

Sputnikmusic would like to apologize unreservedly to the members of Daitro and Thursday for a breach of privacy that may have caused unintended offense to all parties.

Private e-mail correspondence between a member of French hardcore band Daitro and a Sputnikmusic staff member was inadvertently posted on the public forum, causing some friction between members of the French act and American counterparts Thursday.

We apologize for this breach of confidentiality and have taken measures to ensure it will not be repeated.

Daitro declined to comment directly, however they have kindly agreed to accept our apology.

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Jom
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 1897
10.26.09


All offending parties should be TERMINATED.

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klap4music
Contributing Reviewer


Comments: 1062
10.26.09


yay for transparency!

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robertsona


Comments: 2320
10.26.09


i didnt even know about this


wat

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americanmusicmachine


Comments: 346
10.26.09


all the thursday fand getting pissy on absolutepunk was pretty funny.

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Kirgasm


Comments: 2151
10.26.09


anyone want to explain what happened? i'm out of the loop : (

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joshuatree
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 2526
10.26.09

Album Rating: 1

everybody thta likes thursday hates us now so nobody hates us

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americanmusicmachine


Comments: 346
10.26.09


thursday rep asked daitro to tour with thursday daitro said 'we'd rather not, thursday kinda sucks'. daitro's coments get leaked. geoff accuses daitro of being elitist posers.

americanmusicmachine


Comments: 346
10.26.09


...was a big deal on absolutepunk for a day or two.

redskyformiles
Contributing Reviewer


Comments: 5794
10.26.09


i know the letter was addressed to Ryan, but if I remember right John posted it in the forums. either way that Daitro thread on AP was ridiculous.

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Ruins


Comments: 1295
10.26.09


omg Sputnik scandal

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redskyformiles
Contributing Reviewer


Comments: 5794
10.26.09


i kno, havent had one of those in a while

EasternLight


Comments: 1405
10.26.09


lmao wow.

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Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.26.09


who would do such a thing!

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Ruins


Comments: 1295
10.26.09


where'd you post it at iluv

joshuatree
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 2526
10.26.09

Album Rating: 1

iluv has soiled our site's good name!

EasternLight


Comments: 1405
10.26.09


sputnik is a shit name

americanmusicmachine


Comments: 346
10.26.09


IT'S a sattelite

EasternLight


Comments: 1405
10.26.09


an old one.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.26.09


i posted it in a thread about daitro in the hardcore/emo section of the forums. apparently THE FROWNYPANTS

NortherlyNanook


Comments: 1212
10.26.09


iluv i thought you didn't really want the info on this actually deleted in the emo thread and yet when mute deleted it you got all "NO MAN I WAS JUST JK"

at least that's how you acted

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Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.26.09


i didnt really want it deleted and then he did and i was like i was jk bro

that was how i acted yes

Ruins


Comments: 1295
10.26.09


ugh i'm pissed i missed this

at least i get to see the fallout!

redskyformiles
Contributing Reviewer


Comments: 5794
10.26.09


http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1382421

SmurkinGherkin


Comments: 744
10.26.09


absolutepunk thread is lol

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redskyformiles
Contributing Reviewer


Comments: 5794
10.26.09


so many "these guys seem like dicks so their music must suck" comments.

UhhKris


Comments: 3790
10.26.09


took a while for an apology to be issued
didn't this happen a while ago?

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NortherlyNanook


Comments: 1212
10.26.09


i didnt really want it deleted and then he did and i was like i was jk bro

that was how i acted yes


ah okay i confused because i figured that if SPUTNIKMUSIC is making an apology i thought you might have actually been serious thx

CradleofMILF


Comments: 153
10.26.09


I am pissed that Thursday is touring with TDEP cause I really want to see them but like Daitro said Thursday sucks. Maybe i'll go and leave early who knows.

IsItLuck?
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 4150
10.26.09


took a while for an apology to be issued
didn't this happen a while ago?

the emails were in late July and no one significant saw it, but then some _____ re-opened up Pandora's Box Oct. 10th-ish in a Thursday forum and thought it was pertinent, in addition to being legitimately important. It's the equivalent of someone posting an AIM convo, but you take out all of the important details that give the convo meaning

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thomasj12e34


Comments: 155
10.26.09


tbh it was pretty funny

cbmartinez


Comments: 2042
10.26.09


hi Ryan

sorry but we declined because we hate this band, we just can't take them seriously and they totally suck with their promo photos, booking agent, tourbus, major record company and all that crap we feel too much far from. Sorry to disappoint you but fortunately we don't need these kind of offers to tour the US
!!

all the best
julien

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Geoff Rickly replies on the Thursday fan site, Thursdizzle.net:

DIY is and has been alive in the US for a long time... I think a lot of the ethics of DIY are great(and I've been involved in that scene in many aspects for years[thanks lost in Paris]- as a promoter of house shows, putting out indie records, playing in bands that play DIY, community based shows and working to help establish a DIY network [allagesmovementproject]) and a lot of the people who espouse them are sincere. And a lot of the people that preach DIY just want to look cool and self-righteous. Great. Just what the world needs.

Thursday has been touring for ten years and played all over the world. We've had people help us, we've employed our friends, payed for their healthcare, made tons of music and art. It's been a full time job and we've loved it. If we had stayed diy and done it all, we would have done 1/2 the touring or less... How many chances have you had to see daitro???

I could also learn to make my own clothes and build my own house but I don't. Neither do most people. When you break it down we all choose what we want to make. Thursday chose music over business as a job.

Crysis


Comments: 4508
10.26.09


CONTROVERSY

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Jonnyborg


Comments: 28
10.26.09


haha, I frequent both sites, so hearing this from both sides is pretty hilarious.
In other news, daitro is pretty great, I had to check them out after hearing about them via this "scandal"

Electric City
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 9781
10.26.09


John Hanson: Staff MVP

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jcfiasco


Comments: 64
10.26.09


rofl this is redic.

is the post from martinez actually what they said? If so that's a super Thursday burn.

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mynameischan
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 13168
10.26.09


don't worry guys i fired john hanson

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JokesorInsults


Comments: 228
10.26.09


amazing thread is amazing

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Satellite


Comments: 773
10.26.09


The funny this is that out of all parties involved, Rickly comes off as the least douchey. Weird.

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someguest


Comments: 2583
10.26.09


The Thursday hate is pretty stupid too.

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myhigherpie


Comments: 2427
10.26.09


I kinda like Thursday =(

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IndieOut


Comments: 262
10.26.09


is being a staff an actual job that you can make a living from? like a career choice?

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KritikalMotion


Comments: 1545
10.26.09


I love thursday and i like daitro but thats a pretty shitty thing to say.

Gotta lot of respect for rickly.

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JimmyTwoTimes


Comments: 146
10.26.09


I think this is funny as shit to be honest. Daitro some funny-ass motherlovers.

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YouAreMySilence


Comments: 2372
10.26.09


Thursday is pretty fantastic and Daitro is pretty good,
I think whether they like Thursday that much or not, declining was a stupid move.
And it's not like Thursday is credible, Geoff is also a very respectable guy.

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santi3hg


Comments: 439
10.26.09


The dudes in Daitro are pretty open about bands they dislike, spoke with them while they toured the US at a house show.

Transient


Comments: 392
10.27.09


why would a band like daitro tour with thursday anyway, their fanbases don't really overlap (???)

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ma7erick


Comments: 16
10.27.09


FAIL

HighandDriving


Comments: 2208
10.27.09


Wow Sputnik mods are fuc king idiots, this was on AP.net long before I saw it on MX. Hell I posted it on the forums before anyone. Congrats, you guys are retarded.

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Dave de Sylvia
Moderator


Comments: 6856
10.27.09


You don't seem to understand what an "apology" is.

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Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.27.09


Uh I posted this in Emo/Hardcore in July dude 5 hours after the email was sent to Ryan haha. That is where the email came from in the first place idiot DONT DENY MY AWESOMENESS

hey dave gtfo

Poet


Comments: 3813
10.27.09


John Hanson is indeed awesome.

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Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.27.09


When those rare individuals strive for greatness, they are indeed striving for "John Hanson"

SnackaryBinx


Comments: 2162
10.27.09


I strive for "John Hanson" every day of my life. It's unachievable though, unless it's John Hanson achieving it.

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Dave de Sylvia
Moderator


Comments: 6856
10.27.09


John, I know you think you discovered this, but it was actually that other guy who posted it first. He will now be replacing you on staff.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.27.09


On the 27th of October, 12:20pm US Eastern Time, John Hanson's Sun was shattered.

KritikalMotion


Comments: 1545
10.27.09


it's 12:20 am here

this is relevant

Dave de Sylvia
Moderator


Comments: 6856
10.27.09


On the 27th of October, 12:20pm Eastern Time, John Hanson's Sun was shattered.

You fucking retard, I posted this on AP.net long before anyone.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.27.09


WHAT THE FUCK

I have lost both my staff position and my satisfaction in leaking this classified information

HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH ALL THIS LOSS!?!?

Dave de Sylvia
Moderator


Comments: 6856
10.27.09


Congrats, you guys are retarded.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.27.09


You don't seem to understand what an "emotional breakdown" is.

Roach


Comments: 1071
10.27.09


Hell I posted it on the forums before anyone.

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Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.27.09


http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=576454

i mean yeah

Roach


Comments: 1071
10.27.09


Congrats, you guys are retarded.




Lol HighandDriving is a giant retard

Hostile101


Comments: 514
10.27.09


whats "DIY" lifestyle??

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Phantom


Comments: 6578
10.27.09


lol what the hell happened up in hurr

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PuddlesPuddles


Comments: 1139
10.27.09


They're

French

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kitsch


Comments: 2477
10.27.09


iluvatar is gonna get beat up by a french dude

nychicano


Comments: 79
10.27.09


It's a good thing no one uses the forums.

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cbmartinez


Comments: 2042
10.27.09


haha and the fucking idiot brags insisting that "I posted it first!!1!"

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer


Comments: 11096
10.27.09


who is the idiot me or highanddriving

correction WHICH idiot are you referring to specifically

SnackaryBinx


Comments: 2162
10.27.09


i'm going to go with the biggest lol in the ap thread is the dude who said Thursday shaped screamo.

i laughed, hard.

americanmusicmachine


Comments: 346
10.27.09


na the funniest is the one that said daitro were idiots cuz they didn't use proper grammar like geof did.

bringonthebreakdown


Comments: 4248
10.27.09


itt john hanson is distraught

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thediamondcanopy


Comments: 74
10.28.09

Album Rating: 4

So yea, I invented screamo.

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