uhh
what
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piece of shit
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goddamn
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not as kvlt as burnin down a church... but goddamn.
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fuck beat me to it...
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Holy fuck that's unreal.
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Probably just pissed that his black metal collective is now associated with retard vampires and homosexual werewolves.
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Way to contribute to the generalizations bro. Rot in prison.
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Sanders nailed it.
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Whoa buddy, okay. Slow down. We get it, you're pretty metal.
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Should have just burned down a church.
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Not going to lie, I kind of stared open-mouthed for a couple seconds. Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
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Jesus what a cunt, hope he never gets out.
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BM cliché approved.
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that is badass
i gota check his music out now
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what a despicable human being.
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Somebody will probably make an album cover out of that shit
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Guess he really wanted some
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Probably just pissed that his black metal collective is now associated with retard vampires and homosexual werewolves.
yeah man, it used to just be about the MUSIC.
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sounds like a great guy
I suppose this means that he is now up there with Varg and Faust
or has even superseded their original precedence for black metal badassness
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Now that's fucked up
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scumbag
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goddamn...with a tattoo gun?
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Wtf Wrest is 42 years old?
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Is Wrest's age really the most shocking thing you could find in the article?
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Whoa that's some intense shit.
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He's taking Vargy's place in prison. Fuck this guy.
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what does he do in twilight
I don't even know and I listen to the band lol
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rot in prison dickwad. makes me kinda sad, now whenever i listen to Massive Conspiracy i'll be stuck thinking about the asswipe who made it.
hope twilight stays alive.
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I THINK he's the drummer. I could be wrong though.
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wow
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So, is his last name really Whitehead? That's unfortunate.
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Wow...looking forward to the follow-up article about how the same fate befell him while he was in jail. That'd be some inspiration for a fresh spin on a black metal song.
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he doesn't do vox, thank god. shouldn't change too much when/if they do another album.
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this is pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel as far as humanity goes
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And that is why I'm not interested in this scene.
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And that is why I'm not interested in this scene.
There are nuts in any scene.
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And that is why I'm not interested in this scene.
A lot of these guys are psychos yes, but a lot of them produce some damn good music.
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Dead from mayhem committing suicide by slit wrists/shot gun to the head then writing a note that simply states "Excuse all the blood, cheers" followed by Euronymous taking pictures of it and making a stew and necklace of brain and skull fragments only to be brutally stabbed later on byVarg Vikernes is one of the most metal things ever.
yah no, he never slit his wrists nor did Euronymous make a stew and a neclace of skull fragments, those are myths and black metal being satanic is also a myth, it was never intended to be by its original creators
with that said, what this guy did doesn't really make a damn difference, shit like this happens daily except for once it was done by a member of an accredited bm band
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Psychos produce the best music/art, generally.
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Butchered he did slit his wrists and yeah they made necklaces. They said it in interviews so I don't really know where you're coming from with that. The thing about the stew isn't true though.
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Damn.
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yah watch Until The Light Takes Us it's the real inside story, most of the shit members of Mayhem say are fabricated
how can anyone trully believe half that shit happened? yah cuz it is totally legal for you to make a neclace out of your buddies skull
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How do you know she's innocent anyway? This is alleged.
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"raping her with a tattoo gun."
what does this even mean?
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Ummmm it means he got a tattoo gun, and then proceeded to rape her with it.
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take it word by word, think it over, then report back to this news thread what you believe it to mean
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Raping her with a tattoo gun? The fuck.
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I actually really like the sound of a lot of black metal (I used to like it a lot more) , but this whole "trve kvlt" revival movement is a bunch of silly angry white kids. It's also mostly a regressive scene.
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That's what it was the first time around too Zanders.
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yeah it's unfair to paint them all with the same brush
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Hope the fucker rots.
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this isn't true kvlt, this is just a sociopath that has no place in our developing and modernizing new world
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"That's what it was the first time around too Zanders. "
I don't agree with everything Varg stood for but he was nearly not retarded as this.Reading his blog and watching until the light takes us, led me to believe that he just stands for what he thinks is right and IMPORTAND.He just thinks the rest of the Norwegians give a crap about christianity taking over the pagan religion or whatever they called.
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This guy is going to prison a long time for this shit.
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Fucking hell he was pissed off. Be interesting to see how much time he gets/describes why he did what he did. Guess we won't be hearing much Leviathan for a while.
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Yeah, I'm the only one I know outside of the Internet that listens to black metal on a regular basis. I'm sure that fact alone as placed me on no-fly lists, etc. and in the same category as this Loughner kid. And we can thank idiots like this right here.
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Wasn't the future of the band uncertain anyways? Guess that's a definite now.
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What McCopper said, at least the first wave had some sort of goal other than complete and total nihilism. Their form of satanism was less silly than the total nihilism of these newer bands, even though the old ones were still pretty silly ideal wise.
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Dammit, black metal.
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I like the concepts behind black metal just to break up the monotony of everyday life. There's nothing wrong with stepping away from reality for a bit. It keeps you sane.
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Dude the first wave was never about Satanism.
Varg and Gylve never had satanic beliefs.The former just thought it's a cool subject.
And don't put all bands in the same bucket either.It's just that black metal is huge today (anyone with a guitar can play a basic black metal riff) and is filled with generic and cliche bands.Most of them are bad too.And they also think they are satanists.
They are not.Very few -if any- black (or other) musicians are true to any existing satanic "school" (like La'vey and so on).And some others are just fascinated by the subject (deathspell omega for example).
And because you expressed some negative feelings about this "scene" in general earlier on, I should inform you that black metal being as huge as it is, showcases many sub-subgenres as well, one very importand being the "blackened folk" as I like to call it (basicly black metal with folk influences) which is almost never about satanism.
I know this is general black metal and has little to do with the thread subject so uhm...sorry.
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I always think it's a bit fucked up when the details are made public, like everyone who knows the victim personally, are going to know exactly what he did to her. I know she's got nothing to be ashamed of or whatever, she was the victim here but still like it's got to be toughe looking people in the eye when you know they know what happened.
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Again this is alleged. Not only do most of you need an economics class (see Anti-Trust news article) but you also need a law class.
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Keep in mind by "satanism" I don't mean anything theistic. I mean the principle of self liberation and rebellion.
And McCopper, I like a lot of black metal related music. Mostly the experimental and progressive offshoots.
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Alleged sure but I think considering the details of the attack it would be hard to get this one wrong, it would probably be pretty clear from the the injuries and the crime scene what went down.
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Wishing punishment upon someone who is not yet convicted in a court of law is ignorant.
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Someguest, there is nothing wrong about speculating his guilt given the situation.
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MrCopper is right
and I pointed this out as well
Satanism is second wave bm
none of the original creators ever intended bm to be satanic
the media after Varg and Faust were arrested called the scene Satanic
and so everyone who followed it afterwards used Satanism
as a lyrical theme in their music
(a.k.a Dark Funeral and Gorgoroth)
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alleged kinda goes out the window.
no it doesn't
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correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't euronymous a satanist?
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@witchxrapist
nope, he never once ever claimed to be, idk where you got that from bro
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And no he wasn't exactly a satanist.
Quoting Varg "he wanted people to think he was extreme but he didn't WANT to be extreme".
In sort he was a pussy.He wanted an ego boost and I suppose having people believe that he is a satanist sacrificing virgins under the full moon and leading a "black metal mafia" was cool for him.
EDIT: And again by satanist, I don't mean he ever claimed to be practicing any satanic ritual or even believing to some sort of satan.It's more like a lifestyle for the image he wanted to create for himself.
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what. the. fuck.
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no it doesn't
I think in this case it pretty much does, if you're going to be pedantic technically no it doesn't you know it's officially still alleged and the way it's been reported it doesn't seem there's any doubt he did it.
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Goddamn people are retarded.
What is there to debate? Harming another human being, especially a woman, is wrong in any sense.
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"What is there to debate? Harming another human being, especially a woman, is wrong in any sense. "
Satanism agrees
"Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal."
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"nope, he never once ever claimed to be, idk where you got that from bro"
i think i read something about it in "a burzum story"
but who knows, varg's claims make less sense as the minutes go by.
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not really out of all the first wave black metallers he is the most rational
which ultimately isn't saying much
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it means he is a sociopath, I doubt he recognizes the consequences of his taboo behaviour
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"not really out of all the first wave black metallers he is the most rational
which ultimately isn't saying much"
Dude, first wave black metal is Venom, Celtic frost, Hellhammer, Mercyful fate and bathory.
Second wave is the "Norwegian black metal" in the early 90s, bands like Burzum, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Emperor and Immortal.
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Ya, those guys from Immortal are total psycopaths...
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no way man, they are just black metals influences
first wave is the original creators of black metal
venom, celtic frost, hellhammer, mercyful fate and bathory just contributed to the birth of the subgenre but arent actually members of the party
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I think it's a bit strong to write him off as a sociopath I mean he's gotten half way through his life without doing anything like this before (that we're aware of) so probably does recognise what he's done is bad. But even if he's normally the nicest guy in the world if you're capable of losing your shit so completely you do something like this you need some serious imprisonment/medicating.
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"no way man, they are just black metals influences
first wave is the original creators of black metal
venom, celtic frost, hellhammer, mercyful fate and bathory just contributed to the birth of the subgenre but arent actually members of the party"
I am sorry but I will have to call you wrong on that.
Venom, Bathory, celtic frost and the rest of the gang are officially recognised as the first wave of black metal.
I agree that they don't share much with what we nowdays call black metal, since they pretty much played thrash with a-little-over-the-top vocals but you can't deny the term first belonged to them.
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There is a difference between beating somebody up and raping them, and knocking them unconscious and raping them with a tattoo gun.
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Well, i mean, the dude was obviously pissed off at something, i don't think he did it just to be kvlt or evil, the article at least doesn't make it sound like that. What if the bitch took all his music and copyrighted it under her name or something like that?
Obviously nothing she could have done is enough to warrant being raped by a tattoo gun, but nothing is being said yet about why he went apeshit.
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Yeah Hyperion speaks the truth. I highly doubt he just flipped for no apparent reason and beat her ass then raped her with a tattoo gun, which is uncalled for no matter what she did.
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I meant that this isn't just a plain old rape and beating, it was beating somebody unconscious and raping them with a tattoo gun. You have to have soemthing seriously wrong with you to go that far.
Sorry for not making that clear enough.
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honestly they are all pretty crazy, Faust aided in the church burning and is responsible for killing a middle aged man on the grounds that he was a homosexual, Euronymous led and advocated the church burnings, Dead killed himself and was hoped up on drugs like the rest of Mayhem, Varg killed Euronymous and is responsible for the burning of 17 churches
I'd have to say Darkthrone and Immortal are the sanest although Varg of Burzum is the most intelligible out of any of them
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"Euronymous led and advocated the church burnings"
Varg says different.According to him Euronymous didn't have the guts to do it.
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But then again, we can't take everything he says for truth, because Euronymous is dead and he can't defend himself.
But look at both their faces I can tell who would go that far and who wouldn't.
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ok legally his offences are serious and are probable worth 5+ years of jailtime
but psychologically it is proven that people who commit extreme acts such as these aren't usually insane unless there is some form of self-affliction that occurs before or after the illegal act
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I can't really say that the fundamental principals of black metal are anything good. Whatever small trace of good there is in them is hyperbolic to the point of being stupid.
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@McCopper, everything you've said is right, however Varg did state that he and Faust eventually convinced Euronymous to participate in the church burnings although Euronymous never really contributed as much as Varg and Faust had done
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Ugh, I can't even reply to the latest posts, I'm off to bed (waking up early tomorrow :/).
Was great fun talking about black metal and psychopaths in a thread about Leviathan.
Gnite.
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@HsThomas
watch the documentary Until The Light Takes Us it'll tell you everything
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"I can't really say that the fundamental principals of black metal are anything good. Whatever small trace of good there is in them is hyperbolic to the point of being stupid."
This is a moot generalization. There are tons of black metal acts that focus on poetry and nature.
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Even if she did piss him off, as far as I see it, there's never a reason good enough to justify beating a woman.
That is one messed up thing, especially the tattoo gun. I mean, technically he is innocent till proven guilty, but still, it's a pretty odd thing to make up.
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i'm thinking prison for life, yes?
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@wyankeif1337 he will be charged with battery and sexual assault which are both inditable offences and will land him 3-5 years
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he deserves life.
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foreverendeared, the later offshoots of black metal had bands focused on paganism and nature, but the originals such as Hell Hammer, Venom and Mercyful Fate weren't. Bathory started out like those but moved on to viking concepts.
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What? How did he even? Why?
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we don't know
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that's sick man
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fucking hell i hate this planet sometimes
i hope they lock him up for a long damn time
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jesus christ
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What is this i dont even...
with a fucking TATTOO GUN???
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What a bizarre and morally dubious person.
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How about we wait for a verdict before we jump to conclusions?
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"How about we wait for a verdict before we jump to conclusions?"
For what it's worth, I second this.
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What a fucking douche
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Ergh, this makes me sick. I know this crap happens all the time, its just worse when it's actually pointed out.
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The worst thing is, he'll probably get off lighter than he deserves.
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holy....
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This is why some suicidal black metal musicians should just go through with it already. And by some, I mean this asshole. Fuck this guy.
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Guys like these should be emasculated, what a fucking asshole really.
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Just because one guy did this doesn't mean that all black metal musicians are the same way.
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What a sick bastard
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This is disgusting.
Probably not gonna be able to listen to Leviathan the same way.
Fuck this guy, and fuck any "black metal" fan or musician who sees their music and "culture" as an excuse to justify shit like this.
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Why are people jumping to weird conclusions like this^?
It's not as if he did this because he plays black metal. It's just as likely that the fact he's a tattoo artists led him to do this, which is to say, not likely at all.
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bros who actually like black metal like it for the music, not for any faggy ideologies that the bands in question associate themselves with
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It's getting close to the same way the media blamed Marilyn Manson and gothic culture for Columbine. It's fucking retarded. Sure the cultures and music attract people with issues but the vast majority will never condone any senseless act of violence.
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doesn't change the fact that Marilyn Manson is fucking terrible
back on topic: you got it exactly right.
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Well, I'm a huge fan of black metal and I'm trying to explicitly blame an entire scene,
but sometimes it seems like it breeds scum bags like this. You can say whatever you want about there being weirdos everywhere, but can you name a specific sub-group that is associated with as much violence and murder as black metal, however exaggerated it might be?
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Are you serious? Right off the bat, rap.
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oh... fuck.
point = moot.
ignore me.
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Where I'm from, certain musical genre is totally linked with violence, and violent groups and such
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And people are dumb. There's just as many gun crazy alcoholic rednecks that are obsessed with Garth Brooks as there are corpse paint wearing Burzum fanatics who are pyromaniacs.
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How about we wait for a verdict before we jump to conclusions?
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so when he gets sentenced by a jury of his peers or pleads guilty to the charges will you be willing
to admit that he's an absolute piece of shit human being on a character level or are you gonna say
"but wait! we must wait for the appeals process to run its course!"
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an (at times) brilliant musician, but a complete shitwad of a human being. fuck the appeals, we all know he did it.
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By what it sounds like, it seems very unlikely for him to get out of this charge. I don't really understand how the police could fuck up that investigation.
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"Sure the cultures and music attract people with issues but the vast majority will never condone any senseless act of violence."
It's not about being violent, more likely abount acting like a complete douche for no actual reason. And considering topics processed in BM and the behavior of very many people it is is or would be in case pretty much a cliché.
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"so when he gets sentenced by a jury of his peers or pleads guilty to the charges will you be willing
to admit that he's an absolute piece of shit human being on a character level or are you gonna say
'but wait! we must wait for the appeals process to run its course!'"
On that same token, if it happens to turn out that he is acquitted of his charges, will you go back on your statements and say "nvm guy's not so bad?" The point is that while we all agree that something like this is a horrible thing for anyone to do, some of us would prefer to give another human being the benefit of the doubt and wait until yes, we see him through the due process he's entitled to before declaring him a douchebag that should rot in jail his whole life.
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Take a quick look at the fundamental ideals of "true" black metal. They aren't necessarily constructive or positive, so it makes sense that a lot of nasty people would come out of it.
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Heard about this earlier today and was appalled.
The Tenth Sublevel is pretty fucking great though.
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"he is accused of smashing her head into the wall of his tattoo parlour until she passed out before raping her with a tattoo gun."
holy shit that's so fucked up
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http://waldemardaninskyjr.blogspot.com/2011/01/idiot-wrest.html?zx=7f3d7b0475f86f97
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That link ^ is bogus.
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what a piece of shit
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And the WTF!!! moment of the day is.....
really can't believe what i've just read this guy needs flamethrowering and throwing in a bath filled with salt. Scumbag
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with a TATTOO GUN wtf
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should be hung by his thumbs and then immersed in a barrel of hot oil
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this is terrible! this is NOT what rock is about!
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gee, thanks so much for adding to the reputations of tattoo artists you fucking scumfuck
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so when he gets sentenced by a jury of his peers or pleads guilty to the charges will you be willing
to admit that he's an absolute piece of shit human being on a character level or are you gonna say
"but wait! we must wait for the appeals process to run its course!"
Yeppers, but we're all innocent until proven guilty. I would just like to hear his side of the story too. More than likely he probably did this crime though.
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what the hell...
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How the fuck do you rape someone with a Tattoo gun?
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"gee, thanks so much for adding to the reputations of tattoo artists you fucking scumfuck"
If this actually affects the way you see tattoo artists in general then you are fucking retarded
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sounds like a cool guy
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hurrrrr
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How? what? why?
i... i... just dont know anymore
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I thought this was a joke when I first read it..
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He raped her with his tattoo gun?! Holy Shit!
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maybe she just wanted her initials tattooed in her anal cavity
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Lol. Out of all the dumb comments, mine gets deleted.
Would like to believe he didn't do this since I appreciate his body of work, but this isn't really the kind of thing one makes up. Guess we'll see. I agree with Wiz; wait for a verdict or at least his side of the story. Also saddens me to see the numerous (but somewhat expected) "lol black metal" comments and completely irrelavent arguing about Satanism and the members of Mayhem.
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Would it not be ironic if Wrest came down with leukemia the same way how Nergal got leukemia after ripping up a bible.
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Yeah Hyperion speaks the truth. I highly doubt he just flipped for no apparent reason and beat her ass then raped her with a tattoo gun, which is uncalled for no matter what she did.
Oh, just "uncalled for"?
I love how some people are talking about this like it's just some pedestrian crime.
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"
Yeah Hyperion speaks the truth. I highly doubt he just flipped for no apparent reason and beat her ass then raped her with a tattoo gun, which is uncalled for no matter what she did.
Oh, just "uncalled for"?
I love how some people are talking about this like it's just some pedestrian crime."
Well what do you want me to say? That's it's the end of the world and oh my god it's the worst thing anyone has ever done. That wouldn't be true. She isn't dead, it could be worse. Is it completely fucked up and wrong on every level? Yeah, but still worse things have happened.
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how would one rape another person with a tattoo gun? Thats creative.
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i've made my gf sleep on the floor for not giving me a bj, but if it's the same scenario this guy has taken it to the extreme. regardless of his story, it's still way too far for any situation so i don't see what everyone is generalizing on at the moment.
also the retardation of everyone forcing their image of ethics has been amusing. (counters my first paragraph but everyone is just seeming to always pull out forced ethics on sputnik in these situations)
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Hopefully he pulls a Burzum and continues to make music from prison. Most of his releases have been consistently great.
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Well what do you want me to say? That's it's the end of the world and oh my god it's the worst thing anyone has ever done. That wouldn't be true. She isn't dead, it could be worse. Is it completely fucked up and wrong on every level? Yeah, but still worse things have happened.
I wasn't necessarily talking about you. And just because worse things have happened, that doesn't diminish what happened here in the least.
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That's very true. It's not like he should just be able to walk free after this. I mean raping someone with a tattoo gun is all kinds of fucked up.
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Hopefully he pulls a Burzum and continues to make music from prison. Most of his releases have been consistently great. he put Leviathan to rest after Massive Conspiracy came out i think, so thats unlikely.
unless prison gives him some new found motivation to write stuff
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Hm, that's unfortunate.
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I'm sure he's going to be too busy on his hands and knees in prison to be making music after doing something like this.
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wtf?
This dude has issues.
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his ass is grass in the slammer
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I hope he's made someones bitch in jail!
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Why?
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What a surprise. Someone commits a heinous crime and the best that the sputnik community can muster up for wit is to jump on the overcrowded lol bm bandwagon. I enjoy his work and I thought he was actually a normal person. Apparently not. Why are tattoo artists always really demented people?
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Weren't the live guitarists from Satyricon also accused of rape a few years back??
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What a surprise. Someone commits a heinous crime and the best that the sputnik community can muster up for wit is to jump on the overcrowded lol bm bandwagon
that and lame prison rape jokes
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Yeah.
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Bad timessssss.
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hopefully this ass goes to prison and gets the favor returned on him
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I like his music more now
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that and lame prison rape jokes
haha yeah, those won't ever be exhausted i suppose
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what a tool
i mean who does that shit?
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Correct, a tattoo tool can do that. Like this one perhaps:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qxc5e2UpeFU/SunM8b_9IgI/AAAAAAAABVs/z44ggLLhpB0/s400/modern-tattoo-
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Who knew a guy who made music like that would be so fucked up?
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dumb
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What a piece of shit.
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bitch should have let him fuck
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I just read he killed himself last night. Wow.
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wut
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I just read he killed himself last night. Wow.
Source?
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can't find a source on that but that's fucked up if true
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Yeah apparently he killed himself :S
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I can't find a "source" either, but that's the word going around.
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where's it "going around?"
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How about we wait for confirmation before we jump to conclusions?
fixed
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oh wow, that just made things even more fucked up
if that were possible
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How about we wait for confirmation before we jump to conclusions?
fixed
hence the asking for confirmation
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Well if he killed himself, then he sure went out with a weird set of events.
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where's it "going around?"
Deep password protected kvltist websites.
Seriously, this is just word of mouth. Some idiot probably made it up. It definitely keeps the discussion going though.
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passwords aren't kvlt
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I call bullshit until links be presented.
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well if it's legit it's probs going to win news of the year
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IDK if he killed himself, but the whole beating thing was in the Chicago Tribune.
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Satanism (or the tinkering thereof) ain't cool...darkness swallows some people
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I think it's less Satanism and more that he's kind of just an angsty twat and was bound to explode at some point.
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Jesus or Satan...take your pick
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I'm gonna pick a childish attitude on life. I really hope I don't get banned for stating how I feel about this situation again.
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glad you are back from banning
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this is an alt
but seriously, look through the guy's discography
tentacles of whorror, that's an album title
for an album made by a man in his 40s
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Does it really matter what the album is titled if the music is good?
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not at all, but that's besides my point
what i'm saying is that wrest is clearly a very immature individual
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brutal.
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it was jeff whitehead with the tattoo gun in the parlour
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"Jesus or Satan...take your pick"
Yeah, completely disregard every other religion. I love comments like yours.
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http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/57264717/Leviathan+wrest.jpg
I meant to embed the image but it wouldn't let me.
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This isn't 100% fact. It wasn't his shop, he was doing a guest spot at somebody's shop. Also the report doesn't say it was a tattoo machine. It just says tattoo tools, witch could mean anything. It did not happen inside the shop either. It happened in a guest house/apartment that is attached to the shop. Not defending the guy, just think that if you are going to report on things that you should do a little bit more research.
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can anyone confirm that he killed himself?
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Also his last girlfriend committed suicide because of the music he's into. Dudes kinda got a track record that's not so hot. I've met Jeff a couple times at some tattoo conventions and he was always kind of a dick witch is why I never got tattooed by him, even though he's a fucking awesome tattooer.
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Uh, I guess, I'm a little slow on the uptake, here...but, anyway, have to comment. Fresh out of an awesome Nachtmystium gig, last night, at The Regency Ballroom, and still reeling from getting to meet Blake Judd...so, was googling Blake pics, and, I happened to come upon...this(?) Oh, my heavens...I am seriously devastated by this. I freaking love Leviathan. I can't take it.
As a San Franciscan, I am in a cold chill about this. He was ours, damn it! All the talk I've had to wade through about dissing American Black Metal, but, we had Leviathan, here in Cali, so, could be proud...sigh. Damn it all! As a woman I really take offense to actions such as jamming tattoo instruments in your girlfriend. They were lovers, travelling together, weren't they? WTF happened? I really hope she will be ok. Am so sad...
Well, we still have Crebain, as far as I know...(best be behavin', ATB, dang)...
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Da fuck?
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so did this ever get proved?
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Trials and accusations take a damn long time before anything happens.
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i feel like it's not the sort of thing where proof of guilt is the issue.
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some fucked up shit right there
a tatoo gun???? jesus
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I wish It causes them to sell more records
and
if in prison free time would help Jef to focus more on his music
Sad to see so many stupid cliches on sputnik and much more sad to see so many people who just care more about cock and bullshit stories rather than music
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this story isn't about music, fuckwad.
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if in prison free time would help Jef to focus more on his music
Having a guitar in jail is a privilege, not a right. Just because he has free time doesn't mean he'll be concentrating on writing music.
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lol
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This event alone could affect some musical outcome in someway for the next album, like lyrical theme or some shit like that. Especially if he becomes a bitch in prison.
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There won't be a next album because he's not continuing with Leviathan, so it doesn't matter.
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he shouldn't be continuing with life
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Why, because he made a mistake?
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I mean the guy is a psycho, but it's not like she died or anything. Yeah he deserves to go to prison, but this definitely isn't the worst thing that's ever happened.
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yeah women enjoy being raped anyway
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it just slid in!
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Some idiot will probably stir up shit over the dangers of black metal now
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see this is why black metal should be banned, it promotes rape, murder, blasephemy and shitty versions on Kiss paint
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"As a woman I really take offense to actions such as jamming tattoo instruments in your girlfriend."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*deep inhale
AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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That would be funny if Fox News did a report on Black Metal with their News reporters that listen to Christian Rock.
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I think he listens to unblack
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If your referring to me listening to unblack metal. I've heard of Unblack metal but I've never listened to it before.
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lololol, and i was tlaking about the news reporter, unblack = christian themed black metal, its pretty much christians doing what they do best being faggots and raping anything they think is blasphemous
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Unblack metal is the most retarded thing ever.
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agreed
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Unblack Metal sounds just as bad as Deathcore tbh.
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"As a woman I really take offense to actions such as jamming tattoo instruments in your girlfriend."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*deep inhale
AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm glad you enjoyed my comment, foreverendeared. I guess. I was trying to lighten up my mood about it, a bit. The weird thing, for me, is I really wanted to meet Jef Whitehead. I have enjoyed his music so very much. I even thought about trying to meet him, several months ago, when he was actually still living here, in SF. After all, I knew where the man worked.
If someone had asked me, a few months ago, who I thought I had half a chance of meeting first, Grutle Kjellson, Blake Judd, or Wrest, I would have said, undoubtedly, that I would probably have way more likely chance of meeting Wrest.
Thanks to the Regency Ballroom, I have now gotten to shake Blake's hand, and, I do believe it was I who greeted Grutle, with my eyes, as he was entering the Regency, for gig with Dimmu, back in Nov, (hee...sigh). I now know there is very little chance I will ever meet Wrest, nor, would I actually, at this point, even care to, which is a little disheartening, for me, in any case.
Now that I have gotten to meet Blake, it is hard not to speculate that it must be devastating for him to have to think about what has become of his friend...
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Not as devastating as thinking about what has become of his band...
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So that whole suicide thing isn't true?
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Whatever ! ...His music is mind-blowing and it's what that matters !
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how can you say whatever to rape
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A man/woman who forces someone against his/her will is th pussiest thing a human can do. If this is true I hope somebody smashes his face in with a brick.
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Dont worry he's probably getting gaped and gagged in prison
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