can the author please explain what's going on here a little bit better.

i understand we don't have high standards for news posting but c'mon

It seems pretty clear to me. Did you read the whole thing?

he's fucked

The first half of that story was pretty confusing.

He was a boss in CunninLynguists

Kno quitting would be a damn shame. This sounds pretty fucking ridic... The sampling laws have really damaged hip-hop and made it harder to create music in a legit way. Still I realize they need to be there to protect creative rights yodda yodda.

yeah

a. who the fuck is kno
b. where were these samples used
c. why does anything fans 'reveal' have anything to do with the law
d. i can't tell where that incoherent mess of a quote ends and begins because there are so many internal quote marks
e. what is APOS
f. basically what is the legal issue here im confused

dude doesn't have a wikipedia page

i mean a news article should really have at least ONE clear sentance summing up what is going on for people who aren't already in the 'kno'

... what? someone explain

I've never even heard of this guy, but the article seemed pretty clear.

Here's the 'average sputnik user' version:

He makes music and uses samples that he doesn't have permission to use. His dumbass fans like to go to Youtube and other hotbeds of intelligent conversation and point out what samples he has used so that the evil corporations can easily figure out what to sue his ass for - the end.

I GET IT NOW

but using samples is commonplace, willie

and its a fan's right to discuss the music

i don't understand why this situation is different from the billion of other producers who use unsecured samples

I can't believe that you're being serious, academy. I have more faith in you than that.

he be trollin

or dumb

i don't know which

i don't understand why this situation is different from the billion of other producers who use unsecured samples

i am not trolling; i genuinely believe this article is poorly written

his sputnik page has 1 album released very recently

meanwhile hes talking about 3 million for what I assume is a different album

i have no idea what this guy's music sounds like or how he uses the samples

using unsecured samples is not necessarily illegal (see the shit girl talk pumps out)...

Music like his; using samples has been commercially released before. Why is this instance an issue?

ok now that i was able to youtube some stuff, it's rap music

so basically he should lawyer up and stop writing shit like the quote above and this:

kno said on Monday, 01 March 2010:
The best way I can explain it is -- you wouldn't purposely snitch on your weed dealer, would you? Especially if he didn't care if you came to his house and smoked for free all the time? He isn't trying to get rich -- he sells dimes to a VERY small clientele for f***'s sake -- but it is HIGH GRADE because he likes to see people get baked. He could be selling dirt by the pound and drive a Lexus, but he doesn't because even if what he's doing is illegal, he at least has some quality standards and principles -- and you like good weed, so you wouldn't do your boy like that. Right?

who cares, Kno is a mediocre rapper at best anyway

He had to have known this was going to happen eventually.

I dont know who this guy is, what this guys does, or what this is about, therefore, i do not care.

"The music I make infringes on copyrights. I am aware of this and have been aware of this, that is why I don’t stress getting rich off of it, I tell people to download it if they want to and I sink any money I do make back into making more records. I am not “blaming fans”, I’m stating facts—public discussion of specific instances of copyright infringement in my work is making it impossible to even create the music period, even if I were to give it away for free. It would still end up on Youtube and I’d still get served by Google-searching lawyers and publishing houses who think they might be able to squeeze money out of me.

So, he's pissed that people called him out for illegal sampling, and he's even more pissed because the fact that people have been talking about it has sparked legitimate legal issues? Well, fuckin duh

And yeah, the article is a bit haphazard

I agree with academy, if you arent familiar with the guy the article is really difficult to follow. The article needs to be worded better and maybe have a sentence or two explaining the situation hes being quoted on before he starts his rambling.

lol what a moron

http://www.whosampled.com/artist/CunninLynguists/

lol

Kno's production is top-notch. shame if he quits.

Christ. I usually love poor puns, but this is too far!

Damn shame if he quits though. DiS was pretty awesome, and APOS is on my list.

Nothing this guy has done before or will do after will top his work on the album he is talking about in the article CunninLynguists - A Piece of Strange.

It's a phenomenal album and whether or not you're a fan of hip hop, if you cans simply appreciate music pushing the boundaries, it will blow your mind.

APOS stands A Piece of Strange. Most well-recognised album from Kno's hip hop group, Cunninlynguists

uhhh anyone else have trouble discerning the article

even though i am not very good in english i still understand the article. well, i had to read it like 3 times to get the gist of it.

anyway, no matter how he puts it, its illegal what he did, he knows it and should live with the fact that people will point it out at some point.

i understand where he is coming from: i am download music from the internet coz i dont have the money to buy all of it so i am on the same boat as he is and i wouldnt like it if some people snitched me to some lawyers.

I don't see why hip-hop gets away with sampling everything and people think it's brilliant. Personally, I think the artists should go way of Dre and have new drummers and instrumentalists come into the studio and he samples the music he has paid them for / they allow him to use. I know he's used samples in the past, but the bulk of his music is made in this fashion now. What just because you are cheap as fuck and want to pump out a beat in 10 minutes means I'm supposed to call you a genius?? No. Every other genre of music has a band or someone creating the music out of nothing. Sure, some bands use samples, but it isn't the backbone of the genre. Shit, Electronica is just as synthetic as hip-hop and it's still someone sitting down and making the beat from scratch, not sampling Funky Drummer, EQ'ing it, and calling it a song. So, anyone who gets caught sampling, tough shit man. You know the laws. If you're REALLY that creative and great, then you can create music from nothing. You don't need sampling to create good hip-hop. And I'm sure many will disagree. But go ask Clyde Stubblefield how he feels not seeing a dime in the last 20 years.

^ This guy hasn't listened to APOS.

Every other genre of music has a band or someone creating the music out of nothing.

A Piece of Strange isn't even CL's best album. Group is incredibly overrated anyway.

Everybody knows that any good hip-hop producer uses illegal samples

I don't see why hip-hop gets away with sampling everything and people think it's brilliant.

No... No they don't. If you knew who Clyde Stubblefield was and what I was talking about in my last sentance, you wouldn't say that at all. Funky Drummer is the most sampled drum beat in the known musical world and Clyde is the drummer who performed it. On the record, it's been in over 140 different songs (and that's just the ones that make money and can be determined). I'm sure it's much higher. Has good ol' Clyde seen a dime? Nope. Bet your ass he hasn't. So no somber, they do NOT "clear the samples". They distort it with EQ and various other plugs and hope that no one can recognize it.

@ McDiggitz
I'm not sure of the specifics in this case but I do know that the performer of a certain song doesn't always own the rights to that song, so most likely,someone is getting paid of that sample

I'm sorry if I was unclear. People on youtube were going to his songs and naming samples he used ( which were uncleared ) . Simple as that. You wouldn't think it would be a big deal but It is for Kno. He's received a letter stating copy right infrigment I believe.

Also Kno had been posting the names of the youtube users that did this for everyone to see which upset some people.He talks about that in one of the quotes.

And really I highly reccomend you go the link it will make it easier to understand.
Sorry again for the confusion

ITT: Pissed metal kids butthurt because sampling artists make way better music than the classically trained gothics they listen to.

Like a couple tunes off the album so I got nothing against him, but encouraging people to download something you stole is just stupid

Is he still quitting? I understand why he's angry, but he can't expect it to just stop.

he expects his 'fans' to act more like fans, and not rat him out. any bet this public announcement is just going to feed trolls to do it even more

I can sympathize with him. It's a pretty helpless situation to be stuck in. I can't say if I was in this situation I wouldn't be complaining.

He makes good music too... shame :/

he's full of shit + unreasonable

if KNO quits, it means everyone on sputnik is going to rate "Death Is Silent" a 5 and over-hype his return

but some people have told me it literally SAVED THEIR LIVES

He can quit for all I care.

but peoples' LIVES are at stake damnit

yeah we have 300 million more I'm sure we'll be fine

There's over 6 billion damn it.

yeah we have 300 million more I'm sure we'll be fine

america is the only country with actual people, rest of us dont count

I'm glad he never quit, Kno is one of the most talented producers and beat makers, just listen to Oneirology, Will Rap For Food, and my personal favorite "Death is Silent". He is also a deep philosophical rapper, very underrated.

Inb4 Ryanhulla is Kno reviving a 2 and a half year old thread.