Issues drop Tyler Carter

2020-09-02 by Sarah | 104 Comments
Issues has kicked Tyler Carter out of the band following allegations of statutory rape and grooming against the singer dating back to his days in Woe, Is Me.

The band released the following statement through Twitter:

Recently we have become aware of allegations against Tyler Carter, of grooming and sexual misconduct. We, Josh, Sky, and AJ, will no longer be working with Tyler. We believe survivors.

https://twitter.com/issues/status/1300976700524834816

Tagged: Issues

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butt.
September 2nd 2020
11124 Comments


wow. there goes their future. not surprised he is/was a piece of shit, but yeah his voice is the only thing that made this band good

SteakByrnes
September 2nd 2020
30382 Comments


Damn that's wild, Tyler seemed like one of the last people to do something like this. Honestly they should just be an instrumental pop jazz trio now since all of them have the chops for it

AlexKzillion
September 2nd 2020
17955 Comments


Lol rip to prob my biggest guilty pleasure.

These allegations must have been pretty damning for them to add that “we believe survivors” part. Feel like you don’t throw something like that into an official statement unless it is 100% true.

DamnVanne
September 2nd 2020
3532 Comments


Are we ready to admit that at least the last 10 years of the post-hardcore scene has existed purely as a vehicle for sexual predators?

OwMySnauze
September 2nd 2020
2544 Comments


Im more surprised this isn’t a hobblepot news submission

JeetJeet
September 2nd 2020
12430 Comments


"Are we ready to admit that at least the last 10 years of the post-hardcore scene has existed purely as a vehicle for sexual predators?"
These shitty bands and their frontmen are dropping like flies.

Digging: Doechii - Alligator Bites Never Heal

FatalHybrid
September 2nd 2020
48 Comments


I am curious what the band do without Tyler. I think the rest of the band are talented enough to salvage this if they really want to. Just amp up the metal/jazz sound and they could make a decent go of it. They'll likely never be spectacular, but I don't think losing the Justin Timberlake wannabe is the end of them necessarily.

As for the reasons the band shitcanned him? I wish I could say I was surprised, but given the other accusations that have come out about other singers in the scene I'm not surprised in the slightest. Huge shame.

KenboSlice
September 2nd 2020
3858 Comments


Bring back Michael and throw Hance Alligood in there too

AlexKzillion
September 2nd 2020
17955 Comments


Yeah I feel like they easily have the talent to go instrumental... but they won’t because they’d pretty much be starting from scratch and ditching their existing fanbase who were mostly their for Tyler.

cold
September 2nd 2020
6735 Comments


These shitty bands and their frontmen are dropping like flies. [x1,000,000]

Digging: Drug Church - Prude

SmallMess
September 2nd 2020
130 Comments


A lot of people are going to need Issues tissues.

MillionDead
September 2nd 2020
5587 Comments


"the last 10 years of the post-hardcore scene" Not even real post-hardcore, just scene bullshit.

Get Low
September 2nd 2020
14553 Comments


Bring back Michael [2]

Trebor.
Emeritus
September 2nd 2020
60012 Comments


My .5 review is validated


theoleinnout
September 2nd 2020
116 Comments


guess you could say he caused some issues

LeddSledd
September 2nd 2020
7445 Comments


man these people have issues

ba dum tis

LeddSledd
September 2nd 2020
7445 Comments


not even really post-hardcore, just scene bullshit [2]

maybe there's like 50 well-known metalcore/post hardcore bands also with allegations i'm not aware of, but shit like this seems spread out all over many music genres from what I've seen

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
September 2nd 2020
26767 Comments


reset the clock

AGAIN

hobblepot
September 2nd 2020
2953 Comments


“Im more surprised this isn’t a hobblepot news submission“

what am i, the Chris Hansen of sputnik?

Tundra
September 2nd 2020
9921 Comments


Now they just become Polyphia II: Electric Boogaloo

Matthias812
September 2nd 2020
140 Comments


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Digging: Cane Hill - A Piece of Me I Never Let You Find

LunaticSoul
September 2nd 2020
2418 Comments


" Polyphia II: Electric Boogaloo"

Polyphia knows how to play though

I forgot actually this band is liked on sputnik :/ yikes

oh man who would have fucking thought emo bands were sleezebags. Jesus christ I saw half Escape the Fate once making out with girls that couldn't have been possibly more than 14 lol

cold
September 2nd 2020
6735 Comments


wut

BlitzPhoenix98
September 2nd 2020
202 Comments


Who's next

cold
September 2nd 2020
6735 Comments


"you read what I typed"

what band are you in

Tundra
September 2nd 2020
9921 Comments


"oh man who would have fucking thought emo bands were sleezebags."
saw this coming from a mile away, Tyler is an ass hat

bigweinerdon
September 2nd 2020
2738 Comments


Bring back Michael [3]

Tyler was a clown anyways..maybe they'll get heavy again

GuanoBumbershoot
September 2nd 2020
1713 Comments


The age of woman interested in guys in bands, believe it or not, actually does extend past their 18th birthdays. Come on, you fucking creeps!

cold
September 2nd 2020
6735 Comments


"I am the first musician of all time that has not raped"

bruh, how do you have Daughters at a 1?

TheNewWhack
September 2nd 2020
1660 Comments


To all those saying "go instrumental," look at what happened to Tides of Man post Tilian. They put out some amazing music that didn't sell for shit.

cold
September 2nd 2020
6735 Comments


issues should've stopped before they even began

ConcubinaryCode
September 2nd 2020
7692 Comments


Still sucks to see the "wait for the facts people" still out there.

Get Low
September 2nd 2020
14553 Comments


Too bad this news didn't come out during the Woe is Me vs. Issues debacle.

Valzentia
September 2nd 2020
1470 Comments


something something lame issues pun

Digging: Better Lovers - Highly Irresponsible

AlexKzillion
September 2nd 2020
17955 Comments


“To all those saying "go instrumental," look at what happened to Tides of Man post Tilian. They put out some amazing music that didn't sell for shit.”

Yeah that’s what I’m saying... their existing fanbase wouldn’t give a fuck about them anymore... and all the people in the Polyphia/Covet/whatever niche wouldn’t care either because they used to make the exact kinda music they love to navalgaze at.

I’d bet on them adopting a new name at this point, no matter what route they go.

iChuckles
September 2nd 2020
717 Comments


Band is challenging DGD for the most number of line-up changes, lol. Sucks if this is actually true (mainly because for the victim's sake) but also because how the rest of the band deserves better than having all of their fans turn their backs on them because they're TC fangirls. AJ, Sky & Josh are killer musicians and one can only assume they know more than we do considering they wasted no time parting ways with Tyler. Dude might have been a wierdo in other ways too that only they know.

Element
September 2nd 2020
98 Comments


i don't think there is anything wrong with waiting for the facts in this situation, we know nothing about this whole thing, yes rape is awful and survivors should be supported but you can't go screaming rapist until you've at least reported it to the police

KenboSlice
September 2nd 2020
3858 Comments


Element shut up

AlexKzillion
September 2nd 2020
17955 Comments


Counterpoint: we've seen bands like ADTR and Pvris wait around for months and months not even acknowledging allegations against some of their least important members (tho I'm aware that pvris dude is no longer in the band anymore).

Meanwhile, Issues kicks out Tyler Carter, who is easily the bands biggest selling point for 90% of their fanbase and (like his vocals or not) is essentially irreplaceable, literally out of nowhere. According to the twitter replies, it seems like nobody even knew these allegations existed until he was kicked. Nobody was pressuring them to do this.

I get wanting to "wait for the facts" but I feel like we already have them in this situation.

bigweinerdon
September 2nd 2020
2738 Comments


i dont really listen to issues for tyler, i listen for them fatass grooves

Rowhaus
September 2nd 2020
6461 Comments


Seems like this Tyler guy has issues.

EddieMarais
September 2nd 2020
230 Comments


band are shit, tyler's a cunt, literally couldn't care less if they fade into the cesspit of Rise's back catalogue.

thoughts with the survivors.

Allergist
September 2nd 2020
1081 Comments


Why is it that shitty edgelord music and rape accusations go hand in hand?

Metalglenn22
September 2nd 2020
4 Comments


Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hobblepot
September 2nd 2020
2953 Comments


can’t fucking believe that fans are actually asking for them to replace Tyler with Jonny fucking Craig. He’s just Tyler but on heroin.

Valzentia
September 3rd 2020
1470 Comments


"Band is challenging DGD for the most number of line-up changes"

*laughs in Pigface*

deathofasalesman
September 3rd 2020
8641 Comments


2020 is music's metoo, I'm glad

"Still sucks to see the "wait for the facts people" still out there." [2]


I feel like I stayed away from these kinds of bands during their heyday cuz their sound seemed targeted towards young girls, but I didn't think anything of it at the time. I want to see more dirt get spilled and more bands dissolving because of it. We shouldn't teach our generation that this kind of thing is okay and there aren't repercussions.

I don't think we should be hanging these guys by their balls or whatever. I do believe in redemption but it has to be done through actions and education, not through publicist-written apologies.

momentzuhclarity
September 3rd 2020
1493 Comments


WHAAAAAT LOL

AlexKzillion
September 3rd 2020
17955 Comments


“I feel like I stayed away from these kinds of bands during their heyday cuz their sound seemed targeted towards young girls, but I didn't think anything of it at the time.”

Same except for these guys. I still maintain that that first album is like a 3.5-4.0 and that they have around 6-7 truly transcendent songs. Their style might be kinda gimmicky but when it worked it fucking worked man.

Valzentia
September 3rd 2020
1470 Comments


The Tyler has spoken https://twitter.com/officialtc/status/1301537352490405889

Ectier
September 3rd 2020
2878 Comments


With an apology that basically says "I let fame go to my head anf abised people, i went to counselling tho and faced all my bad memories and stuff but anyway im sorry guys for being a shitty 'influencer'". What a crock of shit. Meanwhile the comment thread has loads of "its in the past now" as well as the texts from the victim saying he was fucking 12 or 14. Fuck off tyler you predatory fuck.

Digging: Mother (BE) - II

Snake.
September 3rd 2020
25376 Comments


"you can't go screaming rapist until you've at least reported it to the police"

don't make me tap the sign

SitarHero
September 4th 2020
14792 Comments


"The Tyler has spoken
https://twitter.com/officialtc/status/1301537352490405889"

Pretty solid apology tbh. Makes some excuses, but genuinely owns up to shitty behaviour and seems to show genuine remorse.

Calc
September 4th 2020
17459 Comments


dude was preying on 12 year olds huh? the apology was shit btw he's purposely wording things in a way to paint himself as a naive, passive recipient of the attention he got rather that addressing the things he actually did.

Pikazilla
September 4th 2020
31198 Comments


Yet another warped tour core band strikes again

SteakByrnes
September 4th 2020
30382 Comments


"the apology was shit btw he's purposely wording things in a way to paint himself as a naive, passive recipient of the attention he got rather that addressing the things he actually did."

[2]

momentzuhclarity
September 4th 2020
1493 Comments


^ [3] i've noticed these apologies tend to walk that line so that nothing is really said and it kinda makes the whole argument semantics

SitarHero
September 5th 2020
14792 Comments


"he's purposely wording things in a way to paint himself as a naive, passive recipient of the attention he got rather that addressing the things he actually did."

I don't think he's doing that at all. I mean, he doesn't go into specifics, because it's a private matter unless the victim wants to talk about it publicly, but he seems to own up to his fuck ups being a product of his own actions and not someone else's.

hobblepot
September 11th 2020
2953 Comments


holy shit he groomed Sam from Marmozets

https://twitter.com/sammarmozets/status/1304274310572449792?s=21

Get Low
September 11th 2020
14553 Comments


The tweet is unavailable.

notagenius
March 31st 2022
1258 Comments


“Bring back Michael and throw Hance Alligood in there too”
"Band is challenging DGD for the most number of line-up changes"
lol

not gonna lie this kind of firing is pointless for Tyler is the soul of the band. he is (was) indeed amazingly motivated. anyways it felt like he didn't want to make metalcore anymore, so I don't care.

Why many talented people are narcissists?

Get Low
March 31st 2022
14553 Comments


notagenius where u been, bud? Thought you were never coming back lol

notagenius
March 31st 2022
1258 Comments


- Get Low

I was depressed for a while and didn't recover until I listened to the new underoath album this year. lol. Thanks for remembering me.

Get Low
March 31st 2022
14553 Comments


Screw depression! > : (

Glad to see you back. ^.^

notagenius
March 31st 2022
1258 Comments


Tyler has formed a new band called Emerald Royce which released an EP and two singles last year. this dude is ridiculously tough and crazy ambitious.

momentzuhclarity
April 4th 2022
1493 Comments


i enjoy the emerald royce stuff, but this stuff won't ever sit well with anybody.

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


When I listen to Fame over Demise again now, I believe this was what Tyler really thought and believed inside.

Emim
April 4th 2022
36054 Comments


https://youtu.be/_YmDcCpD1gc

How hard is it, people?

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


I also enjoy emerald royce. I'm even secretly happy that he hasn't disappeared because of the scandals. Damn, he's really talented and hard working. It's hard for me to really hate someone like that even in the presence of revolting ambition and hurt.

Get Low
April 4th 2022
14553 Comments


Need to check Emerald Royce; Tyler is an amazing vocalist. I don't care about the accusations.

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
April 4th 2022
26767 Comments


you don't care about statutory rape because shitty scene musician 'sings well'?

damn what a scumbag

Get Low
April 4th 2022
14553 Comments


Nice. Well spotted, Sint.

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
April 4th 2022
26767 Comments


you realise no one likes you right? fucking weirdo

Get Low
April 4th 2022
14553 Comments


You are not exceptionally popular yourself.

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
April 4th 2022
26767 Comments


i'm not simping for rapists mate

like take a fucking look at yourself, aren't you like 30?

like your schtick would be cringy if you were 15 but you're a grown fucking man acting like this, like jesus christ what do you actually do with your life

Get Low
April 4th 2022
14553 Comments


presumption of innocence etc etc this shit is so boring at this point

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
April 4th 2022
26767 Comments


whats boring is simping for rapists

actually wait its not boring its disgusting

have to wonder if there are skeletons in your closet maybe?

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


Only a child would confuse personal life with professional life. the grown-ups can distinguish between these two. The MeToo movements over the years are confusing these things wildly. If you are listening to music, then keep it in the scope of music by keeping it professional. am I allow to like his music while I don't like him as a person?

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
April 4th 2022
26767 Comments


personal life/professional career is the jonny craig macbook scam or random nft-promoting c-list musicians, not someone who groomed and raped people, using their profession and authority to do so

listen to the music w/e, i still listen to brand new, but don't fucking defend the shitstain

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


Yes, I'm with you. I think Get Low is in line with us on this point. He/she didn't defend Tyler.
one more effective way should be making people especially the young ones realize that one's fame and status is not the same as one's personhood, do you agree?

Drifter
April 4th 2022
21008 Comments


get low is such a massive waste of life its amazing.

"have to wonder if there are skeletons in your closet maybe?"
lmfao ive always felt this. get massive creepy vibes from him.

parksungjoon
April 4th 2022
47231 Comments


manchild with arrested development whose shit taste revolves around music that only 13 year olds could think is worth a damn might have skeletons in his closet

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


if so then I also have skeletons in my closet

Get Low
April 4th 2022
14553 Comments


"Yes, I'm with you. I think Get Low is in line with us on this point. He/she didn't defend Tyler."

I actually am defending Tyler, but what I'm defending is the presumption of his innocence. If I knew without a shadow of a doubt that he did the things he was accused of, I would not be defending those actions.

Sinternet
Contributing Reviewer
April 4th 2022
26767 Comments


genuine question why do you even bother coming here

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


good god wth man he pretty much admitted it himself.

Get Low
April 4th 2022
14553 Comments


"good god wth man he pretty much admitted it himself."

Okay, well if so, then I do not defend his actions. I still like him as an artist though, as do you.

parksungjoon
April 4th 2022
47231 Comments


neck

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


I don't know if sputnik's report button actually works or not. Anyway, from now on I'll report any personal attacks I see.

Get Low
April 4th 2022
14553 Comments


It does work

Tundra
April 4th 2022
9921 Comments


Tyler could rape and kill a person and Get Low would still probably listen to him lol

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


yea just like people still sing about sid vicious how amazing
alright guys I know you mean no harm. prob just want his attentions. let us give such fun flirtation or whatever a break okay?

Drifter
April 4th 2022
21008 Comments


notagenius confirmed get low alt. dont defend him bruh dude is a bigoted piece of shit this is only the tip of the iceberg

Storm In A Teacup
April 4th 2022
46395 Comments


Never realized Get Low was such a piece of shit,

JayEnder
April 4th 2022
21129 Comments


Took you this long?

Digging: Tyler, the Creator - Chromakopia

Storm In A Teacup
April 4th 2022
46395 Comments


“Only a child would confuse personal life with professional life. the grown-ups can distinguish between these two. The MeToo movements over the years are confusing these things wildly.“

Go fuck yourself.

Storm In A Teacup
April 4th 2022
46395 Comments


I don’t read every thread Jay and the ones I read I’m liable to skip through.

Drifter
April 4th 2022
21008 Comments


lmao i didnt even see that comment yikes def a get low alt

"am I allow to like his music while I don't like him as a person?"
this is perfectly fine just dont go on a thread about the issue and be like STILL LOVE THE MUSIC THOUGH DONT CARE HE RAPED SOMEONE

like my favorite musician has a whole documentary series about him being horrible but i dont go around bumping threads calling him daddy anymore. its just unnecessary and stirs up emotions for people.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
April 4th 2022
30304 Comments


this is one of the worst threads of all time

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


ah wow let me put it together, it's me who still likes Tyler and put it on this thread. If there has to be a creepy one, I am the creepy one not Get Low alright? I am not his alt.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
April 4th 2022
30304 Comments


now now, you can BOTH be creepy

notagenius
April 4th 2022
1258 Comments


Well, I guess I'm gonna have a hard time convincing you if you keep making snap judgments like that, whatever you say. (But in fact, it was me.)

Shamus248
Contributing Reviewer
January 20th 2024
1137 Comments


Band's farewell song is absolute dogshit

Digging: JoJo - III.

Get Low
January 21st 2024
14553 Comments


good thread



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