The Smashing Pumpkins
Machina/The Machines of God


4.5
superb

Review

by tribestros USER (62 Reviews)
July 11th, 2007 | 14 replies


Release Date: 2000 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Misunderstood, challenging, and little tough to get 'into' describes the Pumpkins' 2000 release very well.

With all of the Pumpkins' mania that is going around with their newest release, Zeitgeist, I figured it was time to look back on Smashing Pumpkins' most difficult and equally challenging album, Machina: The Machines of God. The last album released before the original break-up, Machina: The Machines of God was a misunderstood epic that never did well commercially because its companion, Machina II: The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music was never released to store shelves. This album was an incomplete epic that was a very, very good album that was looked over along with their 1998 release Adore. Sadly, this album was seen as the break-up record that eventually disbanded the band, but it shouldn't have been.

Machina: The Machines of God was a difficult album to get into and understand because on first listen its overwhelming, diverse, and a bit confusing. The album was an infusion of hard rock, new age, and just plain odd. But it worked for Machina: The Machines of God because songs like Try, Try, Try and The Imploding Voice may have been odd and a little bit musically 'out there', but they were immediate classics upon first listen. This goes for plenty other songs, like the harder riff-heavy opener The Everlasting Gaze and the a bit irritating but still catchy Heavy Metal Machine.

The album is easily the Pumpkins' most diverse record because The Everlasting Gaze may have just sounded like Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness while Try, Try, Try may have been something completely different than we've ever heard from the Pumpkins. Some of the songs are strange, but not as different as Adore or as typical as Gish. Machina: The Machines of God was all in all another dimension to the Pumpkins' music.

Machina: The Machines of God was by far, a concept album. The music jumped all over the place, but the album was consistent as the album would go from the heartfelt, solemn epic Stand Inside Your Love to the slower, atmospheric track I of the Mourning seamlessly without even a worry in the world of the songs not fitting together. The album was also a showcase of Billy Corgan and James Iha's impressive guitar work and how they managed to make great sounds while being completely different in their style. The signature layered guitar work is present, and heavily used just not as much as it was in Siamese Dream, but with a different sound and twinge which also captured by the album's frequent use of keyboards and fuzzy Zwan-sounding guitar work.

But the album isn't an easy listen on first glance, as it kind of gives a listener a question, of "What just happened? This is the Pumpkins?" because it sounds so different than anything we've heard so far from the Pumpkins. Its not Adore nor is it Siamese Dream. But after a few listens, the tracks seemingly stick out a lot more and the album becomes much easier to comprehend.

Billy Corgan's lyrics are just as prophetic, poetic, and angst-filled as they've always been. While most of his lyrics are very hard to comprehend for the standard person, they are a bit deeper and much more poetic than standard songwriters. The songs are just as catchy and interesting as they've always been and just as deep and impressive lyrically as they've always been. But Machina: The Machines of God seems to have a darker, almost helpless feel lyrically which the former Pumpkins albums never had.

But by the end, Machina: The Machines of God manages to slowly die off as the last few songs are especially strange and different but still quality tracks nonetheless. It doesn't take much away from the album, its still a very good album. And twenty years from now when everyone's looking back on the Smashing Pumpkins' lengthy career, Machina: The Machines of God and it's partner Machina II: The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music will go down as the most misunderstood and challenging albums of the Smashing Pumpkins' career.

DOWNLOAD:
Stand Inside Your Love
Try, Try, Try
The Imploding Voice



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Comments:Add a Comment 
FriendofTheDevil70
July 11th 2007


388 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Disagree heavily with the rating but great review nonetheless. I feel this is by far their weakest album.

DaveBum69
July 11th 2007


699 Comments


I agree with everything you said I actully listened to this yesterday after I went and tried to zeitgeist with no luck, this album is great although some a song take a LONG time to grow on you, I glad to finally see a review that does this album justice.

tribestros
July 11th 2007


918 Comments


I normally can tell when I write a bad review but I don't think this is a bad review. After reading it over again I notice that if I was reading this and it wasn't by me I'd get:

-Very tough to get 'into'
-Musically diverse
-Some songs are very hard, some are very atmospheric
-It's companion is needed to really enjoy it
-Try, Try, Try, Stand Inside Your Love, and The Imploding Voice are very good.

You didn't get that vibe?This Message Edited On 07.11.07

tribestros
July 11th 2007


918 Comments


I don't know; its different...

Yeah, I see your point.

IsItLuck?
Emeritus
July 11th 2007


4957 Comments



You're getting sloppy with your reviews. You're a good writer, but this just doesn't really tell me anything.


Foodforthegods
July 11th 2007


425 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

this has some of the best pumpkins songs. Try, Try, Try , everlasting gaze, Age Of Innocence, Stand Inside Your Love are such awesome song.

Two-Headed Boy
July 12th 2007


4527 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Your opinion of this is ehhhh. Still, it would be a great album if it was just alot shorter.



I think the review was alright. Not your best for sure, but not bad.

StickmanSouffle
February 18th 2009


286 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

This album is terribly underrated.

rasputin
February 18th 2009


14967 Comments


No it's just not very good.

oWhoadYo
June 7th 2012


2416 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Agree with rating. Album rules. Corgan can do no wrong, and This is a fact.

Hopelust
February 6th 2015


3618 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This album doesn't get enough credit.

Log S.
October 5th 2017


3394 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

this is undoubtedly a fractured album but I love it so damn much

This Time is one of my favorite Pumpkins songs ever

fucking beautiful

DarkSideOfLucca
October 5th 2017


17796 Comments


Eh, I think Adore is the underrated one. That album is fucking amazing imo, this one is good but not amazing.

Then again, it has been years since I've heard this.

Grungil
February 17th 2022


604 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Only behind Siamese Dream and MCIS, as my favorite SP album. A lot of poppy tunes here like Radio, Wound, This Time and of course, the amazing Stand Inside Your Love.



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