Neurosis
Pain of Mind


3.5
great

Review

by BMDrummer USER (55 Reviews)
April 13th, 2014 | 21 replies


Release Date: 1987 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Neurosis start their career with a promising debut rooted in hardcore punk.

Chapter 1: Crusty Beginnings

Neurosis, as we know them, are the founders of the loosely defined genre of post-metal. While this is indisputably true, they had a much different sound in the beginning. The sound that they had would confuse many modern Neurosis fans, but if you listen closely within, you can hear elements that would later make it to their masterpieces. The album known as Pain of Mind was made around 1986 and released in 1987 with little to no attention and it’s pretty easy to see why. When I go into the music, you'll understand what I mean.

At this point, Steve Von Till (second vocalist and guitarist) hadn’t even entered the picture yet. He has a bit more of a soothing voice than Scott, and honestly I don’t think it would’ve worked here. They had another vocalist named Chad Salter, who sounded a bit better than Steve probably would have with the band at the time. Dave Edwardson’s growls are still on this release on songs such as Self-Taught Infection, Reasons to Hide, and Progress. Scott’s vocals sound a lot higher in pitch and don’t have the maturity and power of later releases. Lyrically, the album is very angsty compared to their later material with lyrics reminiscent of Black Flag’s Damaged in a way, but there was evidence of the apocalyptic styles to come. They didn’t quite have maturity in that department yet.

Musically, the album shows some potential for things to come. Jason’s drumming still has some tribal influence, but for the majority he just plays grooves on the cymbals, snare, and bass drum. The tempos are usually sped up a lot faster than their later material. However, there are some exceptions such as the intro to Self-Taught Infection, which also shows some Sabbath influence, the crusty Stalemate, and the My War influenced Grey. Other than those and some other things, most of the album is at a hardcore punk speed, even the slow songs are usually at a slower paced crust punk kind of vibe. Scott’s guitar riffs are mostly influenced by Black Flag, Celtic Frost, and Black Sabbath here with lots of fast riffing, tri-tones, and noisy sounds. His playing isn’t very mature, but he does show potential. Dave’s bass playing is rather run of the mill, but he shows potential as well with Black Sabbath and Joy Division influenced playing once again.

The albums songs generally range from mid tempo crust punk with lyrics about war to hardcore punk with more angsty lyrics. The crust songs include Self-Taught Infection, Stalemate, Ingrown, and Geneticide. These are all very dark and allow the band to shine a bit more as musicians. The faster songs include the title track, United Sheep, Training, Bury What’s Dead, and Progress. There are a few odd surprises in these tracks though such as Black which shows their folk influence, Ingrown which shows some Swans influence, and Reasons to Hide which is one of the more dissonant tracks here with Joy Divison influence. Many Neurosis fans will look at this as just a punk record, but it’s actually more than that.

Overall, Neurosis gets a pretty good start in their career. Sure, it sounds almost nothing like their later stuff, but it still is worth a listen. There aren’t really any classics on here, but it’s great for what it is. Neurosis’s debut is a lo-fi, energetic, doomy punk record that is good for fans of the band. Many fans of their post-Souls At Zero records will probably overlook this record, but it's interesting to see how such a unique band began. This album is much more crude and immature than most of their discography, but it is still a good listen.



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Wizard (4)
Old school Neurosis crushes the hardcore/ thrash crossover genre....

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Comments:Add a Comment 
BMDrummer
April 13th 2014


15096 Comments


I will be doing a discography review of my new favorite band, although I'll skip Enemy of the Sun since I already reviewed it. Constructive criticism is welcome!

BMDrummer
April 13th 2014


15096 Comments


Figured I would do one since I need something to do after school anyways. Plus, I haven't written a review in a little while.

BMDrummer
April 13th 2014


15096 Comments


Thanks, I look forward to writing more!

Insurrection
April 13th 2014


24844 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

agree with the rating. album is sweet

DominionMM1
April 13th 2014


21103 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

is it just me or does the word "tempo" show up too much here?

Insurrection
April 13th 2014


24844 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

3 times in the same paragraph is a bit much. try changing a couple of mid-tempos to mid-paced or something so it flows better

BMDrummer
April 13th 2014


15096 Comments


Duplicate. Dammit.

BMDrummer
April 13th 2014


15096 Comments


Ok, will think of that.

Wizard
April 14th 2014


20510 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Well done with the review dude. I like the more technical feel you did describing the instruments, etc.



I will be doing a discography review of my new favorite band, although I'll skip Enemy of the Sun since I already reviewed it.



Please do, I cringe reading some of my reviews for this band. I find that over time, I discover Neurosis a little deeper with each listen, hence making the review process harder to do.

BMDrummer
April 14th 2014


15096 Comments


Please do, I cringe reading some of my reviews for this band. I find that over time, I discover Neurosis a little deeper with each listen, hence making the review process harder to do


Expect a review for Word as Law sometime in the next few days, maybe tomorrow. Also, what do you think of your first review for GTTR?

BMDrummer
April 14th 2014


15096 Comments


Ok thanks.

Wizard
April 14th 2014


20510 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Expect a review for Word as Law sometime in the next few days, maybe tomorrow. Also, what do you think of your first review for GTTR?



Sucks, please redo it!



Looking forward to your reviews : ).

BMDrummer
April 14th 2014


15096 Comments


Almost finished writing the one for the Word as Law, should be up tomorrow!

BMDrummer
April 14th 2014


15096 Comments


Haha, all I really do is listen to music by myself. If I try to write a review, I can usually do it. With Neurosis though, it's a lot harder, especially from Souls at Zero and beyond.

DominionMM1
April 14th 2014


21103 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

"Please do, I cringe reading some of my reviews for this band."



your reviews are awesome man.

ScuroFantasma
Emeritus
April 14th 2014


11997 Comments


"it’s pretty easy to see why. When I go into the music, you’ll understand why."

this reads awkward to me

"the maturity and power of later releases"
"angsty compared to their later material"
"faster than their later material"
"almost nothing like their later stuff"
"fans of their later material "
"more crude and immature than their later stuff"

you really like that 'later' word
nah, seriously though, those last three were dragged from your final paragraph, which is pretty short anyway.

overall the review is pretty good though

BMDrummer
April 14th 2014


15096 Comments


Ok, will keep that in mind next time.

ZombicidalMan
April 14th 2014


2476 Comments


I still haven't listened to this yet, I gotta check it out.

good review, too. I'm no expert but the advice I would give is try to leave out things like "Other than those and some other things". If you're not going to describe it, just leave it out. Because this just makes me want to know the "other things", lol. Looking forward to the rest of the reviews

DominionMM1
April 14th 2014


21103 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

it's worth checking out. to me, the biggest step forward they ever made was from this to twal.

Emim
April 14th 2014


35275 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

This album.



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