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OutKast
Stankonia


4.5
superb

Review

by Robert Crumb USER (49 Reviews)
January 16th, 2005 | 624 replies


Release Date: 2000 | Tracklist


#359 on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time.

Hey Ya. These two words changed the face of pop music. Wait... is ‘ya’ even a word? My word processor says no. Ah... well... You know what I’m getting at. In the past few years, OutKast has risen to the top of the heap. Their 2003 hip hop double album opus, Speakerboxx/The Love Below found them catapulted into a grand audience, well beyond that of the average hip hop group. Before that, 1998 produced the brilliant Aquemini, their first offering fully realizing the nature of their game. And in between, they found enough time to give us Stankonia.

Since Aquemini, OutKast have been the prodigal hip-hop artists. Jay Z may have staked claim on the ‘King of Hip Hop’ crown but clearly, OutKast proved to be the most forward thinking, unique, consistent and creative force in popular hip hop. Musically, they’ve run the gamut. A scan of their library would find cuts emblazoned by dub reggae, soul, gospel, southern seasoned riffs and of course the George Clinton influenced space-funk psychedelia they do so well. Organized Noize, primary OutKast production team and fellow Atlanta natives, are responsible for much of the musical foundation; the three-man team worked with the duo of Andre 3000 and Big Boi on and off throughout the years creating the polar opposite to the established southern hip hop scene’s sound, most notably, that of Master-P and his No-Limit cronies. Consequently, the diverse nature of the group’s music led to an existence on the cusp of popularity within their genre in their early years. Further removing themselves from contemporaries, OutKast’s lyrics proved to be increasingly substantial as the years passed. There’s definitely more De La Soul than gangsta posturing here and while they may have name checked Mercedes and the sticky icky without hesitation, the combination of the streetwise and philosophical was more often the rule, not the exception. As Dre puts it:

‘I met a critic, I made her **** her drawers
She said she thought hip-hop was only guns and alcohol
I said "Oh hell naw!" But yet it's that too;
You can't discrimi-hate cause you done read a book or two.’


In a lot of ways, OutKast is that perfect balance, daring enough to bring in new crowds with every new album, conscious enough to appeal to what most mainstream listeners assume hip-hop is. Forward looking, yet, able to use the past to its benefit. ‘Gasoline Dreams’ follows a liquid-sexual introduction, completely contradicting the opening. It’s abrasive and on attack right from the opening, a sound in debt to classic hardcore/political rap acts like Public Enemy, Ice-T or N.W.A. It’s hard to imagine a hip hop group able to successfully take the scathing attack of artists like those, yet come up with soulful, laid back tracks like later cuts on the album. But that’s the nature of OutKast’s game. In fact, they utilize this ability right away making an interlude-aided transition into the butter-smooth ‘So Fresh, So Clean,’ which combines the tradition of rappers and braggadocio with seductiveness laced among weirdness capable only by lyricists who refer to themselves as Possum Aloysius Jenkins and Francis the Savannah Chitlin Pimp.

As far as mainstream success goes, Stankonia is not short of it. ‘Mrs. Jackson’ and ‘B.O.B.’ were huge hits, and once again, allude to the captivating variation of OutKast. How many odes to a baby’s momma have you heard with more conviction than ‘Mrs. Jackson’? It may not sound like too touching of subject matter, but that’s the catch, they tackle the situation with both tongue-in-cheek lyrics and sincerity. The somber effect-ridden beat trudges along, sparsely backed by synths and keys during the hook, which are another focal point in OutKast’s attack; Andre croons his apologies to the song’s namesake, shades of the catchy, poppy direction he decided to go with later on his section of the latest release. But with B.O.B., we once again find ourselves staring at OutKast’s other face. B.O.B.(Bombs Over Bagdad) is drum ‘n bass assault at a frantic pace with perhaps one of the best guitar solos in hip hop history. Perhaps the most astonishing thing about this track, though, is the rapid-fire delivery our favorite duo. B.O.B. is the kind of song that gave OutKast the reputation as one of the best live shows hip hop had to offer, as they, along with contemporaries such as The Roots and Black Eyed Peas among others began to implement live instrumentation into their acts, which is still horribly under utilized within hip hop recordings.

Of course, with most glorified pop albums, the real gems are not the singles but the songs too genius for air-play. These might include, depending on who you ask: the pseudo afro-beat energy of ‘Humble Mumble’ featuring Eryka Badu helping out on vocals, sexual appreciation 101 tune, ‘I’ll Call Before I Come,’ an intensely psychedelic love song, ‘Slum Beautiful,’ the closing drone-fest of ‘Stankonia (Stanklove)’ (which doesn’t work on my copy any more, and is a personal favorite of mine dammit,) the hip hop equivalent of a hardcore song, the 1:28 long ‘‘‘ and the cancer-serious suicide dirge of ‘Toilet Tisha’ among others. Actually, pretty much any given track has a lot of upside (read: Andre’s verses) with the exception of the album’s one flub, ‘We Luv Deez Hoez.’ Yes, we do love ‘em. We probably don’t need a song about ‘em.

In addition to ‘We Luv Deez Hoez,’ Stankonia, like many a hip-hop album before it, suffers from another failing... interludes. Most of the interludes are bearable really, not so much filler as simply unnecessary. Like all hip hop interludes, they may initially be clever, even funny. But that never lasts. It’s just nitpicking, though. In fact, I love ‘Cruisin the ATL.’

At the heart of OutKast is the contradiction. At the heart of contradiction for OutKast, is Andre and Big Boi. The reason OutKast has been so successful is because each plays off the other so perfectly and the result can be quite magnificent in terms of music in general and not just hip hop, as exemplified by both Aquemini and Stankonia. If today, OutKast decided to split rght now, as much speculation (which is probably just that) might lead us to think, you’d be hard pressed to convince me that OutKast produced a better album than this. Speakerboxx/The Love Below is a great piece of work but you know what hurts it? The ‘/.’



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Comments:Add a Comment 
ludacrishiphop
September 26th 2004


6 Comments


sweet :cool:

ZEROthirtythree
September 30th 2004


234 Comments


Good review. I love this album.

"B.O.B." is one of my favorite rap songs.

Happymeal
September 30th 2004


330 Comments


So Fresh, So Clean is cool. Nice review man.

40 oz 2 freedom
September 30th 2004


96 Comments


Nice Review, this is my second favorite Outkast album, behind "ATLiens". "B.O.B." is without a doubt my favorite song by them, though. Brilliant guys.

Dancin' Man
September 30th 2004


719 Comments


Nice review. Awesome album. I still prefer The Love Below for sheer originality, but this album is a killer.

manuscriptreplica
September 30th 2004


431 Comments


Great review.

B.O.B is the best Outkast song.

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb]OutKast the reputation as one of the best live shows hip hop had to offer, as they, along with contemporaries such as The Roots and Black Eyed Peas among others began to implement live instrumentation into their acts, which is horribly under utilized within hip hop.[/QUOTE]

Naming the Black Eyed Peas along with greats of the genre of Outkast and the Roots is an insult.

4/5

Tangy zizzle
September 30th 2004


253 Comments


Nice review Robert.

I had this album but it got stolen!

br3ad_man
September 30th 2004


2126 Comments


[QUOTE=manuscriptreplica]Great review.

B.O.B is the best Outkast song.



Naming the Black Eyed Peas along with greats of the genre of Outkast and the Roots is an insult.

4/5[/QUOTE]

They used to be good, apparently.

sum1soiledMyBongos
September 30th 2004


19 Comments


Yeah i was really into the Black Eyed Peas for a moment, like three or four years ago... they had some semi-underground hits like "that's the joint, that's the jam" and Falling Up. That was really good. Most of their new stuff is a bit corny in my opinion. It is catchy though.

But as for Outkast, this is a splendid album. A few low points such as those stupid interludes, like reviewer already noted. But for the most part it's very good, i thin my second-favorite, with ATLiens being #1.
Good review.

Robert Crumb
October 1st 2004


165 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Hehe, that's why I wrote "contemporary" instead of "peer." The Roots were/are both peers and contemporaries. BEP are just contemporaries in my opinion. But I do agree with what others have said about BEP, they're not that bad when you put things into perspective. Conversely, they're not the great. But they're great break dancers! :p



This is actually my second favorite OutKast album behind Aquemini. I'm tired of reviewing albums I like.

manuscriptreplica
October 1st 2004


431 Comments


[QUOTE=br3ad_man]They used to be good, apparently.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I saw them live at the BDO 2002 (I think?) maybe 2001, when they didn't have that stupid woman slut as a singer. It was the coolest little crowd as well.

Hunter555
July 2nd 2006


424 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This album kind of got me started with rap. I think i'll check out the 'similars'

Sepstrup
February 10th 2007


1567 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Some of these songs are complete genius: "Gasoline Dreams", "So Fresh, So Clean", "Ms. Jackson" and "B.O.B." for instance.



"Snappin' & Trappin'" and "We Luv Dez Hoez" pretty much suck though, in my opinion. Overall it's a really good album, bogged down by stupid skits (like most rap albums), those two bad songs and a few average ones.



Who the hell neg'd this review?!

robertsona
Staff Reviewer
October 24th 2009


28200 Comments


i get fucking shivers when i listen to b.o.b. when that one part with the choir or whatever comes in


fucking awesome


why does this album have like 10 comments wtf

botb
November 14th 2009


18424 Comments


have been listening to this recently. it's too awesome.

Titan50
December 14th 2009


4588 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I've listened to Ms Jackson about ten times on repeat



NEVER MEANT TO MAKE YOUR DAUGHTER CRY, I APOLOGISE A TRILLION TIMES

Andre3000
January 13th 2010


62 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

'one of the best albums of all time'



nay, THE best album of all time. apart from revolver, of course.

Shadowed Reflection
January 25th 2010


275 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5



Some of these songs are complete genius: "Gasoline Dreams", "So Fresh, So Clean", "Ms. Jackson" and "B.O.B." for instance.



"Snappin' & Trappin'" and "We Luv Dez Hoez" pretty much suck though, in my opinion. Overall it's a really good album, bogged down by stupid skits (like most rap albums), those two bad songs and a few average ones.



Who the hell neg'd this review?!


I reckon those are two of the best tracks...

joesmoe4000
April 27th 2010


679 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

excellent album but imo doesn't compare to outkast's classic albums aquemini & atliens.

bloc
June 13th 2010


70694 Comments


I'm sorry Ms. Jackson!



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