Cryptopsy
And Then You'll Beg


3.0
good

Review

by Insurrection USER (114 Reviews)
March 1st, 2013 | 82 replies


Release Date: 2000 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Combine mundane technical death metal instrumentation with a lifeless vocal performance, horrid production, and a couple signature Cryptopsy moments, and you have And Then You'll Beg.

None So Vile is widely considered one of the death metal albums of the 90’s. It essentially has everything that makes death metal great in the first place – stellar riffs and drumming, audible and independent bass, and not to mention some of the best breakdowns in the genre (none of that chugga chugga bullshit). On Whisper Supremacy Lord Worm was replaced by Mike DiSalvo on vocals which caused a bit of discrepancy within the fan base, but to be fair Mike did a pretty solid job being a non-growler featured on a technical death metal album. However on And Then You’ll Beg, his presence is undoubtedly the bane of the record. He gives an absolutely wretched vocal performance on top of the mundane instrumentation that was unlike anything Cryptopsy had done before, adding up to nothing more than another run-of-the-mill death metal album from a band that could do so much better.

And Then You’ll Beg continues Cryptopsy’s more technical approach, although unlike Whisper Supremacy which had a perfect combination of fresh riffs with a melodic touch and some of the dirtiest riffs Cryptopsy has ever done, And Then You’ll Beg meanders around a familiar comfort zone of standard, uninteresting songwriting for most of its 39 minute runtime. In retrospect, after listening to this as many times as I have, I can barely remember a handful of riffs, contrary to previous Cryptopsy efforts where seemingly every song had at least one (usually multiple) highlight moment to set it apart from the others. As a whole, And Then You’ll Beg sounds like a loud blur of stale, boring death metal with very few glimmers of pleasantness overshadowed by its overbearing monotonousness.

As I stated earlier, Mike DiSalvo’s presence is the greatest bane of And Then You’ll Beg. His tough guy hardcore vocals were passable, even somewhat enjoyable on Whisper Supremacy, but here he sounds like he’s trying way too hard to sound brutal and it’s just dreadful. The vocals aren’t the only negative, as it’s easily the worst produced Cryptopsy album. It’s odd because None So Vile and Whisper Supremacy had such a wonderfully dark and murky atmosphere, whereas this is a very hollow, flat sounding album. The guitars have hardly any crunch to them and the vocals cover them up most of the time anyway. Because of this, everything on And Then You’ll Beg sounds haphazardly thrown together without the glue of good production holding it in place.

This is a Cryptopsy album, though, so it’s not all bad. ‘We Bleed’ is definitely the track pick here, having some of the best riffs on the album along with a killer solo from Jon Levasseur. ‘Shroud’ also has its moments with a tasteful classical sounding riff about half way through coalescing the more dissonant halves of the song together nicely. Unfortunately that’s about where the positives end. Apart from an interesting bass lead into ‘Soar and Envision Sore Vision’ and the nut-crunching intro of ‘Voice of Unreason,’ nothing really stands out on this record. It’s really a shame considering what Cryptopsy were capable of, only to blend right into the rest of the death metal crowd with this generic outing. And Then You’ll Beg is a worthwhile listen for a die hard Cryptopsy fan, but I’d go so far as to say it’s the worst album in their discography (yes, including The Unspoken King). Not bad, just painfully and utterly average.

Recommended Tracks:
We Bleed
Shroud
Back to the Worms



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Insurrection
March 1st 2013


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

MAC? And thanks man.

CK
March 1st 2013


6104 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I agree with the rating alone.



Skele, what exactly is MAC? But yeah, Once Was Not is far too hated

Insurrection
March 1st 2013


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

What did you disagree with? Just curious

CK
March 1st 2013


6104 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Oh no, I didn't disagree with anything. I'm saying I didn't even read your review because I agreed with the rating alone. I could read it if you are looking for feedback. I will do my best; sitting down and focusing on reading something isn't the easiest thing for me to do ha

Insurrection
March 1st 2013


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Oh ok i thought you meant you disagreed with everything except the rating lol. And its up to you i just felt like giving this a review.



Amazing av btw

Insurrection
March 1st 2013


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Nah high 3-3.5 max. Vox and production bring that one down hard too

Insurrection
March 1st 2013


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

It sounds like Worm is gargling cum the whole time especially those highs ugh

CK
March 1st 2013


6104 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

The majority of his highs are pretty bad, especially when he sounds like a panda bear taking a harpoon to the groin. I also think the shitty production took his vocals down a bit

Insurrection
March 1st 2013


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Really above WS and BMF?

ohfoxxxycole
March 1st 2013


4339 Comments


review was alright pos

Necrotica
March 1st 2013


10693 Comments


"It sounds like Worm is gargling cum the whole time especially those highs ugh"

That's pretty much Lord Worm on every album he's on, though

demigod!
March 1st 2013


49631 Comments


neck

pissbore
March 2nd 2013


12778 Comments


neck, I meant NSV but stupid autocorrect on phones


technically that would be a self-neck


linguist2011
April 16th 2013


2656 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Another solid effort from Cryptopsy. Although I personally think the vocals in this are somewhat weaker compared to the previous album, they still do a good job in keeping up with the great instrumentation. 'Voice of unreason', 'shroud' and 'Back to the worms' are the album's highlights for me.

Fozzie
April 17th 2013


506 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

This album never did it for me. The vocals are much weaker compared to Whisper Supremacy and I don't think Mike was a good fit for the band.



Voice of Unreason is a pretty good track, but the rest of the album is really bland.

Madbutcher3
June 28th 2013


3159 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

Voice Of Unreason is by far the best track here

Sniff
September 17th 2013


8254 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

How is S/T rated higher than this?

Insurrection
September 28th 2015


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

cause it's better

ElegantElephant
September 28th 2015


1391 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

you must be bored as fuck

Insurrection
October 3rd 2015


24845 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

so ive come to the realization that this is better than TUK



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