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Trigger_003 11-26-2006 01:56 AM

And we thought those crazy percussionists were only playing chicken and fighting :p. Nah that's cool man.

Guitar was sweet as and Orchestral was only fun coz my mate Derek was there. And dad every so often. Hah we were holding everyone's spots down there, making sure nobody jumped in from about noon Friday, and we kinda got bored so we somehow ended up rocking on our chairs making percussive sounds with the legs and blowing over the tops of our assortment of bottles, drinking out of them to try to get a nice dissonance happening.
Our music teacher drove past (fortunately not then) and sms'd us saying we looked like a pair of homeless people with nowhere to go :cool:.

They got pretty drunk up at guitar but that was only the same as the few nights before anyway haha. Thursday night (or more like friday morning actually) someone went home and brought back a full drum kit from who knows where and we played it for 4 hours straight. I feel sorry for the neighbours. Fun group up there.

I had to get to a rehearsal too. Though I can't say all 40 or so of us were crammed into a driveway.

Awesome. I need to line up some new gigs with D of S so I can test it out.

Aes820 11-29-2006 04:17 AM

We got the finalised design for the 07 youthweek back from the designers yesterday arvo, so today was me being bloody hard at it trying to get the website done for a preamptive launch this friday.
I think we'll see if we can put off launching it 'till next friday tho, because the content still may take a while.

Aus_rock_god 11-29-2006 05:41 AM

Hey dude, where abouts in Australia are you???

And what do you know about lighting?

My band decided today that we deperately need a lighting technician, and I happen to be the best one I know (which sucks, because I can't sing, play guitar and operate a lighting desk at the same time).

Apollyon 11-29-2006 07:02 PM

Would it be appropriate to post a track in here if I need someone to lay down a drum track that I could compile onto it?

Trigger_003 11-29-2006 11:47 PM

Sure, but do it in the forum, not in this thread. Might have more luck trying over in the drum forum though.

Chris - design anything near as good as the other one?

Jase - the only lined up slab of Aussie without any surf. Sucker :p.
Haha you could try. There's no point in trying to per-program everything (or at least into sections) then quickly bringing one of your mates up to speed with a few basic steps in the alterations they have to do and letting them learn as they go is there?

Aes820 11-30-2006 03:13 AM

Yeah. the ACT.
But hey.. come on now. It's only like a 2 hour drive to the beach where I am.

The design is great given the constraits they were given.

Trigger_003 11-30-2006 05:56 AM

Sweet, hook me up when it's done for interest's sake.

Haha yeah, not much longer than it takes me :(.

Aes820 11-30-2006 05:53 PM

I got a colleague of mine to put a teaser up online on Wednesday.
The site should be live (in a 'lite' version) next week sometime.

Aus_rock_god 11-30-2006 07:09 PM

Trea - Nah, I tried programming entire songs into light jockey, then found that most venues we play in either:

a) don't have a compatible desk (you need a high end Axiom, minimum).

b) didn't have a spare phono - rca lead to run from the kick mic to the lighting desk that was long enough (I program our shows to follow the kick drum, so it doesn't look stupid if we play faster).

c) hire their lights, so if I was to come in to see how their lighting rig worked, then go home and program it, I'd come back to find that everything had changed.

d) the entire show would f*ck up if our drummer used his kick by accident between songs, or did a drum solo.

I've trying to teach friends, but their brains seem to pop whenever I go through how to do lighting shows:

"okay, you have faders and buttons, these are your front cans, these are your back lights, these are your rays, these are your blinders, this is to control the DMX, this is the add/kill button, don't touch the DBO button or the add/kill button if the DMX lights are running, make sure you turn your," *POP* "Oh dear, now your brain's exploded all over the dimmer rack, hold on while I turn the three phase off."

Chris will probably kill me for saying this, but it's easier to learn how to run a sound desk then to put on a lighting show, because learning to run lights properly is like learning another instrument, except the instrument changes how it's played and what it can do with each venue.

There's more to it than making everyone visible and having blue lights for quiet songs and red lights for loud songs.

Chris - bugger... throw an egg or two at parliment house for me though.

Trigger_003 11-30-2006 11:07 PM

Haha that sounds great - you can abuse the House without getting arrested.

Yeah I understand how complex it is... just wasn't sure about the whole programming thing. Hope you find someone good for ya. I'd learn but it'd take me too long :p.

Jo Shoe Wah 12-01-2006 07:05 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 10 minute walk to beach :p

I haven't been around too much lately, but me/other guitarist/drummer are going on a music shop hop in sydney tomorrow, should be fun :)

How is everyone?

Aes820 12-01-2006 07:41 AM

I got mates who do theater production, and who work for Staging Connections, they know alot more about lighting as what i would.
I can't see it being too overly hard tho, plug em in and turn em on, for the most part. :)

I made a lighting pattern generator once. It can run up to 2400 watts across four channels that can be set to modulate along to the intensity of the music.
So like 600 watts for bass frequencies, 600 for low mids, 600 for high mids and 600 for highs.
Run the drum kits mics through it via a spare Aux of the mixer and it's like an automatic lighting rig that triggers itself along with what the drummer is doing. Handy to run spots and washes off.

I guess the only reason why it's restricted to 2400 watts at this stage is because that's it at the full 10 amps that it's safe to draw from a standard power socket. It could easilly be adapted to suit larger applications.

[url]http://www.dropbear.net/files/lights.gif[/url]

Trigger_003 12-01-2006 11:44 PM

Ooo, look at all the pretty lines.

Sounds like fun.

I'm okay... other than my ankle haha. It's looking pretty artistic right about now, lovely shades of purple. I was helping dad with a hike camp at Wilson's Prom and on Monday I was going down a steep slope, some rocks and sticks moved, I twisted my ankle in 3 different directions then decided I should probably land on top of it (while carrying a heavy pack because those year 9s were complaining so I took some of their stuff into my pack to help out) just to make sure that I did some damage. I also chose to do this with 14km left to walk plus having to set up camp/dinner/etc.
So that was entertaining.

Jo Shoe Wah 12-02-2006 01:31 AM

Owwww that sounds like a fantastic trip.

I sprained my ankle too the other day, me my drummer and another friend had a free period and became so bored that we started jumping from one seat to the next (like 4 seats facing each other in a square) and trying not to run into each other, i landed not so good one time :)

In Billy Hydes today i played the most beautiful strat i've ever come across. It sounded sooo good, i played it through a podxt live as that's what i'm looking at getting. But mann i want that guitar soo badly, bitta saving to do though. :p

Trigger_003 12-02-2006 01:52 AM

Haha go crazy stuff that you know you're going to get hurt by eventually but really don't care.

What model/brand? On the net anywhere?

Retrovertigo 12-02-2006 04:43 PM

would i be able to get a decent drum sound from one sm57/other mic by itself?

Aes820 12-02-2006 05:36 PM

Trea. Bad luck about the ankle... pics?
I love going walking. I used to walk quite alot when i was younger. Mainly around Kosciusko.
[QUOTE=Retrovertigo;13744364]would i be able to get a decent drum sound from one sm57/other mic by itself?[/QUOTE]
That's a hard one.
But you could get something semi-useable by positioning one mic at about head height behind the drummers left shoulder.

Jo Shoe Wah 12-03-2006 05:07 AM

We record our drums with just 2 mics when we just record jamming. They are decent enough for that purpose, we have one for the kick and one overhead...our drummer is pretty loud especially on the snare though, experiment with an overhead position like where Chris suggested, and let your ears be your guide :)

Trigger_003 12-03-2006 05:14 AM

Haha no, no pics.

Yeah Kosi is great :).

Drums. Yeah. Drums are good.
<_< I leave that aspect of recording up to my drummer lol.

Retrovertigo 12-03-2006 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=Aes820;13744778]That's a hard one.
But you could get something semi-useable by positioning one mic at about head height behind the drummers left shoulder.[/QUOTE]

definetaly not for a serious thing, but just a decent recording of my drums thats not distorted to all hell.

can a single mic handle that?

Aus_rock_god 12-04-2006 09:49 PM

[quote=Aes820;13736538]I got mates who do theater production, and who work for Staging Connections, they know alot more about lighting as what i would.
I can't see it being too overly hard tho, plug em in and turn em on, for the most part. :)

I made a lighting pattern generator once. It can run up to 2400 watts across four channels that can be set to modulate along to the intensity of the music.
So like 600 watts for bass frequencies, 600 for low mids, 600 for high mids and 600 for highs.
Run the drum kits mics through it via a spare Aux of the mixer and it's like an automatic lighting rig that triggers itself along with what the drummer is doing. Handy to run spots and washes off.

I guess the only reason why it's restricted to 2400 watts at this stage is because that's it at the full 10 amps that it's safe to draw from a standard power socket. It could easilly be adapted to suit larger applications.

[url]http://www.dropbear.net/files/lights.gif[/url][/quote]


You may as well make a 32 amp one dude. If a venue has a dimmer rack, they'll have 3 phase, and since I guess you could replace a dimmer rack with this...

That sounds pretty friggen cool to me man, except I desperately want a lighting guy just because I don't want our shows to be repetivive in the way of lights.

Since I've started doing lights for some of our support bands, I've been trying to teach our drum tech what to do.

Aes820 12-06-2006 07:00 PM

Looking to have the new youth week website live by COB today. Busy ironing out the last little creases.

Jo Shoe Wah 12-06-2006 11:20 PM

I didn't see that post up there trea.

I haven't been able to find the exact model or any pics on the net, partly due to me not quiiite remembering exactly what model :p too in love with the sound.

But i think it was a Fender Classic Player Strat, maple fretboard, BEAUTIFUL paint job/pickguard, $2.8k

Haha go crazy expensive stuff that you know you're going to get upset by but really don't care. :p

Trigger_003 12-08-2006 03:01 AM

Haha I'm like that but in a different way. I'm just too lame to actually go out and spend any of my money even though I can usually afford something I want. Dam[I]n[/I] I'm indecisive.

Jo Shoe Wah 12-10-2006 03:54 AM

Hehe ah well at least its there when you find something you can't say no to :p

I haven't been up to too much lately, had composition due on thursday and i've got a performance next friday though its non assessable. Goshhh im mixing up my posts with this and the VCE/HSC thread.

Hows everyone been?

Trigger_003 12-10-2006 01:54 PM

Haha nice work. Let me do it too (for the others):

VCE results are out. Study score of 49 for IPM, heck yeah!

Annnnnd! AYB is playing in the opening ceremony for the 2008 Beijing Olympics. We're making a bit of a 2-week tour out of it as well.

Aes820 12-10-2006 03:52 PM

That's awesome news about the 08 Olympics. Well done!

Trigger_003 12-10-2006 03:54 PM

Thanks :D

Btw, for non-vic people, that 49 is out of 50, so it's pretty much the top 1% of the state or so xD.

Agentile1990 12-27-2006 09:00 AM

That Guitar Kid
 
Hey, My name is Andrew and im from Florida. My main thing is guitar. I have been playing for alittle over 10 years. Ill admitt it, I'm a gearhead. I also play bass very well and a little bit of drums (working on that). I love to run live sound. I just love the rush it gives you and the pressure to make things work the first time. I also like engineering things for recording sessions. Not so much the producing that takes too much creative critical listening. I feel What you hear is what you get. Anyway enough of my rambling on. I just love to Jam.

Auberge le Mouton Noir 12-27-2006 09:40 AM

Got a valve amp for christmas


am now in love with valve amps


:p


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