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Soulfly
Primitive


2.5
average

Review

by superpeer USER (22 Reviews)
May 9th, 2006 | 64 replies


Release Date: 2000 | Tracklist


Dedicado à Deus it says on the back of the digipack. For an album that is dedicated to God it sure isn't very godlike. It's pretty much widely accepted by connoisseurs that Cavalera wrote his best music during his Satan loving days and not in his very Christian period. Although the biblical artwork in the booklet is nice to look at, the music leaves much to be desired.

The album begins with a popular Soulfly song, Back to the Primitive, of which the video could be seen on MTV. It immediately sets the tone and leaves us with a clear idea of what is yet to come. Introduced by Brasilian sounding instrument of which I do not know the name, tribal drumming, simple downtuned riffs and Cavalera's tribal blabbering. Whilst not being an amazing song, it is one of the highlights of the album and it is enjoyable with its power and tempo changes.

Pain is next and is an indicator for another hobby of Max Cavalera. Not only does he seem to change his line-up every album, it also seems to be a personal goal of his to get every musician or vocalist he knows to sing or play in a song. He even gets the so called 'mulambo tribe' to shout on the aptly named song Mulambo, but when looking at the group picture of this so called tribe, they are a bunch of young guys, wearing sport clothes and white caps, you know the type. The song itself is hardly worth listening to. In general, the guests don't impress and seem to be put in only for the sake of being put in. Chino Moreno is a decent singer and it's fun to hear him on Pain. He's far from amazing, but the song is one of the best on the album. A strange appearance is that of John Lennon's son, Sean. He has an enjoyable singing voice, even though his talking voice is a bit, well umm, queer. His co-writing of the song seems to have helped the level up a bit, because it is a pretty good song. Slayer's Tom Araya is another one to appear, in a song that is annoyingly similar to a lot of the other songs.

Cavalera uses the same type of riffs over and over again, and, while that is okay when listening to these songs separately, after hearing a whole album of it, it induces boredom and it's almost irritating.

A nu-metal celebrity like Corey Taylor (Slipknot) could not be left off of the guest list, obviously and he sings on Jumpdafuckup, which is a surprisingly refreshing song. It contains riffs that aren't exact copies of most of the riffs on the album and the verse even features clean guitars. Taylor's vocals flow really well and in my opinion, this is probably the best song on the album.

The last three songs (not including the bonus tracks) have a different approach. Soulfly II is some sort of continuation of Soulfly, an instrumental from the first album. It's a relaxing song, with many of the tribal influences Soulfly is known for, only without the downtuned guitar wall mixed in. It brings a much a wanted breathing pause. In Memory Of ... has three rappers from the group Cutthroat Logic on it. The rapping doesn't go well with the music, which on its turn doesn't go very well with the chorus, another pointless song. Flyhigh then has a pop chorus, sung by a female, it's not as bad as it sounds, but it's not amazing either. One can suppose Cavalera is trying new things, but for the most part he fails. The bonus tracks are an addition that big fans would surely enjoy and Eye for an Eye remains one of the best Soulfly songs. No amazing bonus tracks to be found though.

Another thing that I must emphasise is the fact that Max Cavalera truly is a horrible lyricist. Sometimes it feels that the lyrics were written by a one legged lizard who has just lost his wife in a cycling accident and suffers from a lack of inspiration because of it. Cavalera's lyrics go from bad to plain retarded. After hearing the entire album it seems as if he only knows the words "Bullshit", "Mothafucka", "Fuckoff" and "Soul". Seriously, the man seems to have some sort of soul fetish. Really, really bad lyrics.

Overall this album is poor, the thick sound of downtuned guitars playing very similar riffs is just not pleasant to listen to for an entire album. Only for big fans.

2.5/5



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Apocalyptic Raids
May 9th 2006


810 Comments


Ah Max Cavalera, such a downfall

Bartender
May 9th 2006


826 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I have a soft spot for this album, actually. I can't argue for it being unappreciated genius, though.

ReturnToRock
May 9th 2006


4807 Comments


Slipknot = not nu metal

Mulambo = good song.

And the instrument at the beginning of Primitive is called a Barimbau, it's a brazilian slave instrument used in the popular sport Capoeira.

superpeer
May 9th 2006


257 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah, Bartender, I used to like it, actually. But I hadn't heard it in ages, and listening to it now, I don't like it much anymore.



Bassbeginner: I thought it was that one, but I wasn't sure, so I'd rather say I don't know it then to say something wrong. I might edit it in when I'm not feeling lazy.

gigi666
May 9th 2006


257 Comments


Slipknot = not nu metal

im not going to "comment" on that

Tyler
Emeritus
May 9th 2006


7927 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

This album was one of a few that helped me get into metal.



I agree with 'Tender. While it's no classic, I also have a soft spot for it.

pattern_recognition
May 10th 2006


950 Comments


Boring album, and patchy, like most Soulfly.
'Chino Moreno is a decent singer'
^^^^^^^^^^ Understatement of the year.
Good review though.

superpeer
May 11th 2006


257 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Decided to change rating to 2.5, because 2 is a bit too harsh, it has its moments. :p



Still not very good though.

A.K.tm
June 21st 2006


12 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

JUMPDAFUCKUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good word.... I like it

JumpTheF**kUp
August 6th 2007


2723 Comments


Title track slays.
From what I've heard (which is about 4 songs), the rating looks about right.
Nice review Jelle

irishman365
May 1st 2008


1 Comments


The instrument that Back to the Primitive begins with, or includes is the berimbau--a stringed percussion instrument that consists of a steel string (Arame), strung to a wooden bow (Verga) and struck with a wooden stick (Vaqueta). It also has a hollowed out gourd (Cabaça) attached to it to help amplify and resonate the sound, and a stone or metal coin-like object is used to control the tone of it (Dobrão). Sometimes a small wicker basket, rattle-like object (Caxixí) is used with it in the same hand as the stick. I also included a listing of all of the instruments used by the band just for informative purposes.

Max Cavalera (vocals, acoustic & electric guitars, berimbau, percussion).
Andreas Kisser (acoustic & electric guitars, sitar, percussion, background vocals)
Paulo Jr. (bass, timbau grande, percussion).
Igor Cavalera (drums, timbau, djembe, percussion).
Additional personnel: Carlinhos Brown (vocals, berimbau, timbau, wood drums, lataria, xequere, surdos).

More information regarding these instruments can be found at Wikipedia, or simply Googled.This Message Edited On 05.01.08

Wizard
May 1st 2008


20564 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I still dig this album once in a while. Soulfly, I feel, became worse after this.

Cuban Pete
May 1st 2008


3813 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

BACK TO THE PRIMITIVE

F*CK ALL YOUR POLITICS

Wizard
May 1st 2008


20564 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

WE GOT OUR LIFE TO LIVE



THE WAY WE WANT TO BE



I can't believe I still know the lyrics to this album. Terrorist owns this album. I still love that song.

AngelicDeath
May 14th 2009


21 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Couple good songs on here.

nihility
April 21st 2010


10 Comments


Grady from will haven lends his voice on "Pain" along with chino. best part of the album for sure.

deftones27
August 29th 2010


137 Comments


Its an alright album but you gotta admit jumpdafup is a sick song.

Jadedxtc
December 11th 2010


1 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I happen to be one of the people in the "Mulambo tribe" and also in that photo (and a girl). All of the people in that photo are close friends of the band and where given the title because of that. I spent a week with the band while recording Primitive and we had a blast. Although, everyone has a right to their opinion, educate yourself first before writing a review. What did you think? Because they said tribe you assumed the photo would be a bunch of axe chucking natives? Or a bunch of Cleveland Indian fans? Give me a break.

sevenfaces1976
July 9th 2011


2 Comments


When asked in an interview whether he was a Christian and whether Soulfly was a Christian band, he said:
“ No. I mean, if I was a Christian I would wear all these different kinds of omens. Because Christian people are so close minded. A priest would not accept that. So I don't like the concept of Christianity in terms of being so close minded. It is the same with music. Sometimes I compare preachers to close minded musicians or close minded listeners, who only like one kind of music. Some preachers are the same. And they don't tolerate Hindus, Buddhists or whatever. Only them. It's bullshit. So Soulfly is not a Christian band at all. Very much opposite. But we are very spiritual. Spiritual has nothing to do with Christianity anyway. It has been here since the beginning of time.[2] â€
He also stated that he does believe in God, "But it might be different than the God the preacher preaches about."

BigHans
July 25th 2011


30959 Comments


MOTHERFUCKER YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOW IRATE

JUMPDAFUCKUP!



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