toxin.: Himym S8 Finale (spoilers)

toxin. 05.14.13	i just want someone to talk to about this
Trebor. 05.14.13	I really wish this show ended like 2 seasons ago
Rev 05.14.13	i havent watched himym since season 7 ended please tell me what happens im too lazy to finish it
Trebor. 05.14.13	They've completely given up, like at the end of the last episode Robin was all pissed at Barney and then she had a moment with Ted and then the next episode stars and it's like jk
Aids 05.14.13	I don't watch this show cause it's pretty tepid but where are the spoilers? that's the only reason I clicked. did he finally meet their fucking mother?
toxin. 05.14.13	yeah aids they showed her face, she's pretty damn cute and seems perfect for a ted mosby. guys the first half of season 8 was really shit but more or less after robin and barney got engaged it got really good, like the last 12-14 episodes. @treb dude season 6 was easily the worst season of the series lol, 8 is probably one of the better ones
toxin. 05.14.13	https://www.google.com/search?q=cristin+milloti&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS503US503&aq=f&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=XdKRUeT-GYHJiwKX-IDoCQ&biw=1777&bih=861&sei=YtKRUcKSPIPeiAKy9YCYCA actress, she's not a 10/10 but ted mosbys don't marry 10/10s
toxin. 05.14.13	@rev, uh basically barney and robin get engaged, writers toy around with some robin and ted stuff (i know people are sick of it but it was written well in the 2nd half of this season), marshall and lily are moving to italy 10 days after this finale whereas ted is moving to chicago (so he thinks) b/c the whole robin/barney thing, and then robin's having sort of cold feet because barney was being a shit fiance there's s8 in a nutshell
toxin. 05.14.13	how could you hate this show, seasons 1-3 were too good to be hatable, if you get to the hateable seasons (6+7+first half of 8) then you've gone thru the good stuff and can't feel as strong as an emotion as hate
Trebor. 05.14.13	8 seasons to build up to a regular woman's face wow groundbreaking television
Trebor. 05.14.13	I don't know if I have a whole nother season in me, I gave up on The Office this year cuz it was so fucking bad. I like completing things, but man it's hard
Rev 05.14.13	1st season was so great Man I want to bang Alyson Hannigan tho
Trebor. 05.14.13	It's always been just a great show, not spectacular, just something to watch when nothing else is on The era of these kind of sitcoms is dead as fuck, this last season will be the last of an era
Trebor. 05.14.13	Honestly once people start watching the spanish version of Breaking Bad ironically, this kind of TV is over
toxin. 05.14.13	"8 seasons to build up to a regular woman's face wow groundbreaking television" well when you put it that way lol. but yea maybe just wait and see how S9 is, if it's shit (i doubt it will be, i haven't been this optimistic about himym ever since i started when s6 was airing) then don't bother. alyson hannigan is my least favorite female with the reveal of the mother now on this, rev but i never watched buffy so maybe that's why she's meh honestly laugh tracks get too much hate, they only bother me when the writing is shit and they laugh at bad gags (see: TBBT and S6 of himym and the last like 4 episodes of friends)
toxin. 05.14.13	last 4 seasons of friends* probably like last 7 seasons w/e
Trebor. 05.14.13	If a show is good enough you don't notice it like Seinfeld yeah, but we've moved past that shit as a people
CrownOfMagnets 05.14.13	i stopped watching after season 5. i miss the old episodes of this show. the show turned to shit when barney and robin started dating i guess?
toxin. 05.14.13	lmao for me seinfeld had so many of those laugh track moments though... maybe the joke flew past my head but w/e season 5 was def the beginning of the decline but 4 iirc was not one of my favorites either, either way i've been saying for a while that 8's been a nice return to form but i guess everyone on sputnik has already dropped it
ViralOblivion 05.14.13	Show needed to end seasons agon
tempest-- 05.14.13	Seasons 1-4 were fantastic and 5 is great. 6 and 7 were bad and this season was average. Had some really good moments, but also some really dumb ones. The mother was pretty cute and I believe the writers will make sure she'll be good for Ted. I'm glad the show will end on a relative high note, rather than continuing to utter shit like The Simpsons. Also, Alyson Hannigan season 1 > anyone damn she was so cute too bad that she's old now :-[
Aids 05.14.13	show definitely sucks, toxin saying it's impossible to hate is pretty hilarious I can understand liking it in a "hey there's nothing else on" kind of way (similar to Big Bang Theory or Everybody Loves Raymond), but that's it
tempest-- 05.14.13	nah bro first few seasons are really good. TBBT sucks and Raymond rules.
Jesuslaves 05.14.13	i've never even watched this show
toxin. 05.14.13	@lloyd agreed with your assessment except 4 wasn't fantastic for me and i'm a little higher on 8 (but i don't mind ted and robin so much since it seems realistic to me) @andcas there's like no deal anymore tho, the only reason today's episode had me giddy was because we finally saw the mother which i've been waiting for for years. otherwise it's sort of just filler, a solid watch but nothing extraordinary @aids if laugh tracks rub you the wrong way i can see why you'd dislike this. but it definitely doesn't "suck", its writing was probably on par with seinfeld's ("omg did he just go thar") and the whole point of my post was "hating" a series requires a certain amount of commitment to the show, and the writing of the first few seasons was just too good to hate. hating those seasons is like hating seinfeld, it doesn't make sense. so my point was that anyone who "hates" the series has to hate it because of the later episodes which means they saw the good episodes too. comparing it to tbbt or raymond is hilarious, did you even watch? season 1-4 stinson is on par with kramer for best sitcom character i've personally watched
toxin. 05.14.13	tbbt is just flat, my super sorority girl friend loved it and i can see its appeal to people like her (no derision intended)
toxin. 05.14.13	it's called "how i met your mother" it's just a moment that fans have been anticipating for years, lol how is this hard to understand at all
treeqt. 05.14.13	"actress, she's not a 10/10 but ted mosbys don't marry 10/10s" closer than most non koreans get though
toxin. 05.14.13	lol how is it stupid? every single moment on tv can be stripped down to "so you're waiting for a bunch of actors to pretend to do something or feel some emotions? what a bunch of tripe you fucking idiot." the whole point of media is to immerse yourself in it, right? part of the immersion of himym is that the reveal of mother is huge, that's just the premise of the show. it's something you accept, if you don't like it, move along to the next channel, but don't delude yourself into thinking that how bryan cranston pretends to finally get caught isn't equally as stupid at its core
toxin. 05.14.13	goddamn you say the fucking dumbest things ever @tree hahaha yeah...... never met a 10/10 korean and i'm from asia basically
toxin. 05.14.13	missing the point as usual, good job
ViralOblivion 05.14.13	The shows premise doesn't even make alot sense
tempest-- 05.14.13	dude Marshall > Barney by about a billion Marshall has always been the best character on himym
ViralOblivion 05.14.13	Everyone just loves Nph for some reason
tempest-- 05.14.13	he's pretty charismatic but Jason Segel is way funnier
treeqt. 05.14.13	that's so ironic LOOOOOOL
Aids 05.14.13	haha oh wow itt my unfair stereotypes about fans of How I Met Your Mother are confirmed
apert 05.14.13	NPH is pretty fucking awesome in the Harold and Kumar films
tommygun 05.14.13	show got old pre fast ted is a wank barney rules robin is sexy marshall is ok sometimes rest sux
ButtsoupBarnes 05.14.13	"there's like no deal anymore tho, the only reason today's episode had me giddy was because we finally saw the mother which i've been waiting for for years. otherwise it's sort of just filler, a solid watch but nothing extraordinary" seriously? just because of that reveal, the last 4 to 5 seasons havent just been filler? this reveal just happened because it had to happen at some point. bays and thomas probably thought, they better do it now, because the reactions to another stupid twist at the season finale would haven been horrible. the impact it could have had is totally lost, now that we had to endure so much mediocrity with seasons 5-8. the majority of people doesnt really care anymore. once there was a certain mystery around the identity of the mother. now people just want it to be over with. himym is a victim of it's own success. the writers clearly haven't had enough ideas to sustain so many seasons. i mean, season 6 basically consists of 24 episodes arguing wether ted should destroy an old building or not.
Jesuslaves 05.14.13	andcas has to be the most miserable, obese fucking sadsack on the planet.
tommygun 05.14.13	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BOk84i2-uJw/URdkve7K4eI/AAAAAAABJh4/NpDwWV4lu6E/s1600/cobie-smulders-8.jpg i would do horrible unspeakable things to this woman omg
tempest-- 05.14.13	barely even looks like her
tommygun 05.14.13	i know haha her face looks way different i was just admiring her rig
tempest-- 05.14.13	hmm ~2005 Alyson Hannigan >
tommygun 05.14.13	hmm idk alyson doesn't really do it for me like i get the vibe she'd be crazy in the sack (maybe just from watching her in american pie) but still idk all hypothetical of course haha
tempest-- 05.14.13	I think she's cute as a button and cute > hot in my books but ofc cobie is still pretty hot :-]
theacademy 05.14.13	in this thread: people who are no longer qualified to be critical of ANYTHING because they at some point enjoyed how i met your mother (or the american Office) goodbye forever to your cred. love, the academy B.S. in Arrested Development, 2003
theacademy 05.14.13	"Honestly once people start watching the spanish version of Breaking Bad ironically, this kind of TV is over" this was actually pretty great tho
ButtsoupBarnes 05.14.13	i just feel sorry for you if you never enjoyed the american office. so sad.
theacademy 05.14.13	i appreciate your sympathy, but I shall continue to toil through this waking life...
toxin. 05.14.13	"in this thread: people who are no longer qualified to be critical of ANYTHING because they at some point enjoyed how i met your mother" dude if you did not enjoy slapsgiving you have no soul, then again if you're in agreement with BOTH aids and andcas then it's probably a no-brainer that your opinion sucks
WeepingBanana 05.14.13	just watched the last episode. show has really gone to shit but i mean i guess this needed to happen. the first 4 seasons are great but goddamn this show has gone on way too long
Yuli 05.14.13	I'm imagining some of you naysayers watching the first few episodes of this show with your arms folded, sighing and mumbling to yourself, and it's really funny to me. I really don't see why anyone would have any problems with the show. The humor is pretty well-done from what I've seen, and even when it does fall flat, there have been enough redeeming qualities for me to get a lot out of it still.
Sowing 05.14.13	Show was really REALLY good at one time, and had a shit load of potential, but they stretched it out for about two seasons too long. They also ruined what I thought was an amazing chance to make Victoria the mother (he met her at a wedding, so it would have worked). I've missed most of season eight because of being overwhelmed with my new job, but to be honest I'm not sure I would have watched it anyway. I'll catch up and watch the finale online, but I'm not expecting anything special.
theacademy 05.14.13	Its not as bad as friends was or two and a half men or big bang theoretical is but like I didnt laugh at it and I laugh at a lot of other stuff. One time I even laughed at Whitney. That was a dark day.
theacademy 05.14.13	Andcas stick to music I mean seriously...
theacademy 05.14.13	Dont go around telling people i watched whitney tho... it wad on at the gym and my ipod was dead and people will get the wrong idea about me
demigod! 05.14.13	ugh this show has gotten really lame. first 5 seasons were good tho
toxin. 05.14.13	@demi/SS, like I said it's returned to form after S6 and S7 and first half of S8 imo, the writing isn't on par with the first 2-3 seasons' writing but there was no chance it was going to be. anyways this episode isn't really that exciting except for the reveal at that end, if anything it was weird how understated the rest of hte episode was. i'd give the episode like a C-, but the reveal was still pretty awesome @acad fair enough
evilford 05.14.13	"i stopped watching after season 5. i miss the old episodes of this show. the show turned to shit when barney and robin started dating i guess?" this
toxin. 05.14.13	understandable i guess it shouldn't be too surprising that no one on sputnik watches himym anymore haha
SonofSnow 05.14.13	Ugh, I don't know why I still watch this show anymore, I think we had one maybe two legitimately funny shows this season.
Trebor. 05.14.13	Everyone wants to be Seinfeld, but really 99% of shows have no business going past 5 seasons
evilford 05.14.13	@ toxin. - I try to catch it when I can. but that's not very often, and it's not a very high priority anymore hah which is too bad, it was one of my fav shows for a while
JumpTheFkUp** 05.14.13	wow she's a cutie. looks kind of like sarah silverman though. i stopped in season 4 or 5 but the first few seasons of this show were great. kind of like the office, really.
toxin. 05.14.13	@treb agreed on shows shouldn't last longer than 5 seasons but i think it has nothing to do with seinfeld @evil, i get you, i wouldn't say it's high-priority for me either but it's one of those shows i don't mind watching weekly. versus like breaking bad i want it to finish airing before i watch, himym is like comfort food whereas other shows are like legitimate meals that demand my attention
evilford 05.14.13	"ted is a wank barney rules robin is sexy marshall [and lily] is ok sometimes rest sux" also this, exactly
JumpTheFkUp** 05.14.13	plus, new television comedies are taking risks and they're way more appealing than shows with this format now. stuff like louie, archer and girls blow shit like himym and the office out of the water.
Trebor. 05.14.13	"@treb agreed on shows shouldn't last longer than 5 seasons but i think it has nothing to do with seinfeld" No my point is every show thinks they'll stay funny for 9 seasons (like seinfeld) hence the comarison
toxin. 05.14.13	girls is awful but ok (wow it's so easy to flippantly cast off a show!)
toxin. 05.14.13	@treb no i got that but it has to do with $$$, not thinking they'll stay funny for a lot of seasons imo
Trebor. 05.14.13	The studio cares about money but I'm sure the writers think they're funny or at least try to be, like why the fuck wouldn't they
toxin. 05.14.13	i suppose that's true
JumpTheFkUp** 05.14.13	i don't know why you think i'm flippantly casting off this show, i said i enjoyed the first few seasons of it but the whole premise doesn't have the kind of longevity that the show was afforded. i didn't want 9 fucking seasons of this show. same with the office, should've ended at the end of s3 or at the latest at their wedding. and i can understand people not liking girls but eh
Trebor. 05.14.13	Yeah when you drag something out so long to the point that people forget it's the premise of the show, yeah it's gone on too long I doubt they envisioned the show would last this long, but yeah who's going to turn down a steady paycheck
toxin. 05.14.13	haha it wasn't directed at you, just sort of the thread as a whole i can see what you're saying tho and i don't really disagree either, though that doesn't really stop me from spending 25 min/ week watching it anyways
theacademy 05.14.13	"plus, new television comedies are taking risks and they're way more appealing than shows with this format now. stuff like louie, archer and girls blow shit like himym and the office out of the water." this makes no sense the whole reason why louie, girls, archer are not on broadcast is because shows like HIMYM. For better or worse, 'CBS comedies' (here used as an umbrella term for 'bad television that old people dig') create an environment where new sitcoms are presumed cancelled before they premiere. Shows that kill in the 35+ demo in turn kill shows that would catch on for 18-35's because older people watch more TV the old fashioned way.
theacademy 05.14.13	May 2012 comedies picked up by networks: 16 May 2012 comedies still on the air as of May 2013: 1 1/16?! lol
JumpTheFkUp** 05.14.13	i'm not saying they're more appealing to a broad demographic, i'm saying they're more appealing to people who aren't dumb and who are sick of cbs comedies
theacademy 05.14.13	ok, then i'll agree with you haha
ti0n 05.14.13	feed the cashcow. this show should have ended in season 5. now they are just ruining their reputation
ti0n 05.14.13	same with supernatural btw// WHAT A COINCIDENCE
treeqt. 05.14.13	can't believe this is still going on listen to momoiro clover z instead of wasting your time on arguing about trivial shit like this
Trebor. 05.14.13	Shows that old people fall asleep to kill in the ratings and stay on the air, while shows people actually watch are being watched online and get cancelled
theacademy 05.14.13	i can't speak for the quality of supernatural but I know that show does very well in its role
apert 05.15.13	i've never watched this show in sequence so i have no idea what series i've seen, but Barney and Robin have never been together, so must be the earlier ones. i though it was pretty funny for the most part
toxin. 05.15.13	"Shows that kill in the 35+ demo in turn kill shows that would catch on for 18-35's because older people watch more TV the old fashioned way." lol i don't know any 35+ who watch himym tho, most of its fans are probably 16-25 i'd bet. jumpthefuckup is right to an extent, it's mass appeal that makes shows like these popular (and himym only has like 6 mil viewers afaik anyways), not the demographic they're targeted at. " i'm saying they're more appealing to people who aren't dumb and who are sick of cbs comedies" that part is stupid though, different shows appeal to different people. separating shows into ones that "smart" or "dumb" people watch is as stupid as saying that you have to be "dumb" to enjoy justin timberlake, i.e. mainstream pop. the quality of "mainstream" comedies varies drastically, at the top there's stuff like seinfeld and at the bottom there's stuff like 2 and a half men or w/e (only watched 1 ep of that so idk)
silentstar 05.15.13	there are many, many sad people in this thread can't believe the office actually got criticized. steve carell is probably one of the best main sitcom characters. that aside, i agree with all comments saying HIMYM has been dragging on for way too long. also, Victoria should have been his wife
Trebor. 05.15.13	lol Victoria is dumb and ugly
toxin. 05.15.13	victoria was a cool character only when she didn't appear much. she showed up on season 8 and i didn't like her all that much
Trebor. 05.15.13	Thomas Lennon's character was offensive to Germans and typical sitcom schlock like what the fuck were they thinking?
Trebor. 05.15.13	I respect the fuck out of the creators for casting two Twin Peaks actors, I'm sure they love the show
theacademy 05.15.13	theyre not really obscure actors tho...
theacademy 05.15.13	"lol i don't know any 35+ who watch himym tho, most of its fans are probably 16-25 i'd bet. jumpthefuckup is right to an extent, it's mass appeal that makes shows like these popular (and himym only has like 6 mil viewers afaik anyways), not the demographic they're targeted at." i dont know anybody in RL under the age of 40 who watches how i met your mother except one weird girl from high school who posts image memes about it. It does very well with older viewers. CBS crushes everyone overall, but its 18-34 is way weak by comparison. also i think it does like 8.5-9 million viewers "that part is stupid though, different shows appeal to different people. separating shows into ones that "smart" or "dumb" people watch is as stupid as saying that you have to be "dumb" to enjoy justin timberlake, i.e. mainstream pop." its actually not the same. this is a bad analogy for two reasons. First, without getting into a debate about this: music is more visceral, largely about feeling... you can enjoy it without processing it to the same degree that you can movies/tv. Second, TV ratings are measured differently. There's a whole big stupid science to what groups of people watch which programs and how they do it. This is why you can generalize a bit more in this case...
theacademy 05.15.13	actually wait i know another couple that watches it and theyre like 26
Gyromania 05.15.13	"I really wish this show ended like 2 seasons ago" agreed, but these seasons aren't terrible. it's like the office: at this point, i'm committed to watching all of it, even if it's stupid entertainment and rarely as funny or original as it used to be
Trebor. 05.15.13	I went back and watched all of the last season of The Office cuz I wanted to finish it all, and then this seasons started and I watched like 2 episodes and it was giving me cancer so I had to stop Will watch the last one
toxin. 05.15.13	"i dont know anybody in RL under the age of 40 who watches how i met your mother except one weird girl from high school who posts image memes about it. It does very well with older viewers. CBS crushes everyone overall, but its 18-34 is way weak by comparison." where are your sources, i don't buy that. i'm under 35, logical extension: my FB friends are under 35. and there were quite a bit of HIMYM statuses, likes, etc. yesterday, granted i have ~650 friends so 75 (the # of friends who have the show liked) isn't an absurdly huge percentage but it's rather sizeable. "its actually not the same. this is a bad analogy for two reasons. First, without getting into a debate about this: music is more visceral, largely about feeling... you can enjoy it without processing it to the same degree that you can movies/tv." ok your 2nd reason wasn't even a reason, it's just a vague statement that may or may be true to X% accuracy but i'm not sure how it relates to my point so i'll ignore it. as for the 1st one, okay i don't disagree music is visceral, so what? justin timberlake isn't evoking "terror" like the seer or w/e, it still is a release that is expected to draw X emotion from its listener. i mean sorry i don't care how visceral music is, everyone is going to take get the same thing out of a song that goes "i don't wanna lose you now, i'm looking right at the better half of me" my point was that you listen to music for different things, in my case i love some ambient when i'm studying, enjoy pop when i'm in the car with friends,etc. just because something has mass appeal (pop) doesn't automatically make it poor, there is a scale of "good to bad" (subjective ofc but a scale that discerning people can sort of agree on). like i said before, seinfeld was hugely popular and it's still considered to be high quality (because it is). so when you categorize all cbs comedies as shitty it's a stupid generalization to make because it's not true as a generalization and not true to this specific case (himym) which featured in its prime some of the smartest writing within a mainstream comedy. that was the only point i was making and i'm not even sure what about this you're disputing
toxin. 05.15.13	"agreed, but these seasons aren't terrible. it's like the office: at this point, i'm committed to watching all of it, even if it's stupid entertainment and rarely as funny or original as it used to be" [123] although i legitimately think the zoey arc was terrible in every sense
tommygun 05.15.13	"same with supernatural btw// WHAT A COINCIDENCE" - - - - yah the original plan was to end after fifthseason but season 6 was still good, 7 was kinda eh and season 8 has been fuckin awesome so
DrMaximus 05.15.13	Victoria should have been the mother. /thread
Trebor. 05.15.13	His daughter is hot though, that would be a major plot hole if the mother was weird nosed Victoria
FromDaHood 05.15.13	Agreed that these last few seasons have been weak but last night's episode was one of the best of the series and Cristin Milioti will make season 9 worth watching
Gyromania 05.15.13	victoria is the god damn worst
Trebor. 05.15.13	Gyro knows oh wow I make cupcakes, that's the only defining feature of my lack of personality
toxin. 05.15.13	@FDH you think last night's episode was one of the best of the series? i wasn't a fan of the C-plot and the whole marshall not realizing his mom wasn't joking thing was such a "friends" gag (i.e. totally unrealistic). i did enjoy lily/ted's storyline + the reveal of the mother of course speaking of which, lily has gotten to be a much better character this season
theacademy 05.15.13	"where are your sources," real life. IDK maybe its this part of the country but very few people my own age (literally can only think of 3 that aren't older people i've worked with or like my parents/family, and like i said two of them = a couple that gets kinda made fun of for being the 'old married couple' sitting down to watch how i met your mother). I don't use facebook. "ok your 2nd reason wasn't even a reason, it's just a vague statement that may or may be true to X% accuracy but i'm not sure how it relates to my point so i'll ignore it." In response to your assertion that you cannot divide and classify audiences based on their preference for a particular program for the same reason that you cannot do it for music, I said (in my "2nd reason that wasn't even a reason") that because there is more data in the case of television, you actually can, to some degree, draw interesting conclusions. I think you choosing to ignore it isn't really that big a deal, because neither of us have access to most of this data (so arguing would prove fruitless) but I can definitely talk more about how somebody can draw more interesting statistical conclusions about a viewer choosing program A over programs B and C vs. whether or not listener A decided to download a song by Justin Timberlake. "as for the 1st one, okay i don't disagree music is visceral, so what? justin timberlake isn't evoking "terror" like the seer or w/e, it still is a release that is expected to draw X emotion from its listener. i mean sorry i don't care how visceral music is, everyone is going to take get the same thing out of a song that goes "i don't wanna lose you now, i'm looking right at the better half of me" my point was that you listen to music for different things, in my case i love some ambient when i'm studying, enjoy pop when i'm in the car with friends,etc. just because something has mass appeal (pop) doesn't automatically make it poor, there is a scale of "good to bad" (subjective ofc but a scale that discerning people can sort of agree on)." this is precisely why your music analogy doesn't work. this is what i said, albeit in much fewer words.
Trebor. 05.15.13	The obnoxious couple at the restaurant bit was pretty painful Pretty lame for a season finale actually, the only thing that was revealed was something obvious, no character tension really, except the Marshall/Lily thing I guess
theacademy 05.15.13	"so when you categorize all cbs comedies as shitty it's a stupid generalization to make because it's not true as a generalization and not true to this specific case (himym) which featured in its prime some of the smartest writing within a mainstream comedy. " The generalization is not arbitrary. Most CBS sitcoms are multi-camera. They are more popular with older audiences. They feature familiar situations. They make familiar jokes. I didn't much care for the Office but you can generalize about NBC sitcoms as well. There's a reason you'd associate 30 Rock and Parks and Rec with the Office moreso than you would Big Bang Theorem or 3.5 Men.
FromDaHood 05.15.13	Yeah I did. I thought it was pretty funny and, considering how busy it was, they did a great job wrapping it up with the departures montage. The c-plot wasn't great but I thought the reiteration of 'face-to-face news' was a pretty good callback + setup for next season. Lily's actually always been my favorite character but I agree they made her more appealing this season.
Trebor. 05.15.13	Parks and Rec can be associated with The Office cuz it's made by some of the same people. 30 Rock is pretty different from the two Jake is all grown up so it should be called 3 Men, but now he's leaving so I guess it'll be 2 Men, unless they write a baby into the show or some shit, Two Men and A Baby, fuck you you'll watch it, coming next Fall
FromDaHood 05.15.13	@treb I know a lot of couples who act like the obnoxious couple so I found it funny
theacademy 05.15.13	Also, not that it matters and not that this is back peddling but I didn't call all CBS comedies shitty, i said: "'CBS comedies' (here used as an umbrella term for 'bad television that old people dig')" like a let statement 'let 'CBS COMEDY' represent a bad show that sucks and is lame'
Trebor. 05.15.13	30 Rock was the most formulaic sitcom on TV but for some reason it was designated all the Emmys instead of other schlock
theacademy 05.15.13	I didnt like 30 Rock either but i sure love Parks & Rec
Trebor. 05.15.13	me too
toxin. 05.15.13	"The generalization is not arbitrary. Most CBS sitcoms are multi-camera. They are more popular with older audiences. They feature familiar situations. They make familiar jokes." sorry i was referring to a generalization of quality. i agree with what you're saying (though i found himym's delivery of jokes to be inventive in its earlier seasons, which is actually what made me really like the show in the first place). i just don't think it bears impact to the quality of the show. just like how the lyrics of all pop might be similar but that doesn't mean you should generalize about quality (and thus the people who watch/listen) @FDH, agreed on the face-to-face news thing, that was good. the montage with each of the cast's face was pretty good, loved colbie/ nph's acting (barney seemed blissful and robin a bit anxious) in those scenes. and yeah they really humanized her after making her seem like a manipulative bitch the last few seasons
FromDaHood 05.15.13	lol @ 30 Rock being called the most formulaic show on tv when Parks and Rec legitimately copied The Office's mockumentary formula for at least its first two seasons.
theacademy 05.15.13	let the record show that that wasn't me ^
Trebor. 05.15.13	How is having a show shot in a similar way to another show formulaic? I mean formulaic as in the characters and what they say and how they act
theacademy 05.15.13	"How is having a show shot in a similar way to another show formulaic?" umm no but i kinda get what you mean... u just mean cliched or uninspired
auberginedreams 05.15.13	show is shit, anything with a laugh track is garbage almost without exception.
FromDaHood 05.15.13	ok but at least 30 Rock is a satire on the formula. With P&R, as far as I can tell (and i haven't watched the whole series), Leslie is Michael Scott, Ron is part Dwight part Creed, Tom is Kelly Kapoor. They used The Office's formula as far as I can tell. I've heard it's a bit different in later seasons but I didn't stick around to watch.
DrMaximus 05.15.13	@ Aub Except Frasier
FromDaHood 05.15.13	maybe derivative is a better word idk. I guess I unfairly literalized formulaic.
theacademy 05.15.13	no i think formulaic is ok as used by both of you. I'll acknowledge the Office's mockumentary setup is present in parks and rec. And to some extent theyre both shows about quirky characters in offices. with quirks! but the characters on Parks are so funny dude and the show's setting is so much fucking funnier.
FromDaHood 05.15.13	I want to love Parks but I really dislike Amy Poehler. She drives me up the wall.
JumpTheFkUp** 05.15.13	parks and rec is one of the best comedies on tv at the moment
WeepingBanana 05.15.13	woah acad i thought you hated parks and rec?
theacademy 05.15.13	nope. can't really explain why but i dig it.
WeepingBanana 05.15.13	yeah agreed p&r>>>>>>>>the office
theacademy 05.15.13	i liked this show (at least the first few episodes i saw) that got canned Ben & Kate
Aids 05.15.13	toxin defending this show like it's some objectively marvelous piece of high culture is pretty hilarious to read
toxin. 05.15.13	"I can definitely talk more about how somebody can draw more interesting statistical conclusions about a viewer choosing program A over programs B and C vs. whether or not listener A decided to download a song by Justin Timberlake." this is irrelevant to our discussion but i would actually love for you to expand here, i find it hard to believe that whether or not someone watches himym or breaking bad is more enlightening about the person than whether or not they listen to bieber, or nickelback, or mumford & sons, or whatever other band that epitomizes a certain breed of music fan
heyadam 05.16.13	Finally just finished this season. So good! I loved the explanation of why Marshall won't ever eat Skittles anymore haha.
toxin. 05.16.13	was that really a continuity thing? i remember the skittles episode but don't remember his aversion to eating them being previously referenced
Insurrection 05.16.13	finished the season yesterday. the reveal was really lame, i thought it would be someone from his past that would make sense through some weird convoluted storyline but nope, just some random chick. the season as a whole was good though. first half was utter shit but it really picked up after the first few episodes and besides the reveal the last episode was really good
amemento 05.16.13	potentially the worst show in history of existence
toxin. 05.16.13	agreed but wtf ins i don't even understand why you'd want a chick from the past, they basically all suck ("bump girl" are you kidding) and it'd be way too tenuous and lame. i'm glad the show's moving forward honestly
treeqt. 05.16.13	can't believe this is still going on listen to momoiro clover z instead of wasting your time on arguing about trivial shit like this [2]
toxin. 05.16.13	well to be fair 80% of this thread is shit, recently we've had actual discussion on the matter of hand momo iro clover z? peach-colored clover z? wtf
treeqt. 05.16.13	japs : D
toxin. 05.16.13	i figured from the fact that i could translate momoiro ;-)
toxin. 05.16.13	lol where the hell do you come up with this
heyadam 05.16.13	Nah the skittles thing was just introduced in that episode. So funny though.
toxin. 05.16.13	lol when that last skittle fell, it was so damn predictable but funny all the same. and ty andcas i'll be sure to never listen again lol
amemento 05.16.13	its way too sentimental and just not funny or interesting my favourite comedies are just the ones when theyre like lol fuck u u dont need to relate to anybody or anything aka american psycho
toxin. 05.16.13	i feel you there, it's the "friends effect" if the show started off like it is now i definitely wouldn't keep watching for 8 seasons, i'd say that much.
amemento 05.16.13	it has some good moments atleast
tommygun 05.16.13	if u just fast forward through all the scenes without barney it's a pretty good show
toxin. 05.16.13	s6+ barney maybe
chemicalmarriage 05.16.13	mighty boosh was hilarious
FromDaHood 05.16.13	I love how many people are pissed about the reveal, saying how ugly the actress is, how it should have been bump girl and my personal favorite, that Ted didn't say 'and that, kids, is how I met your mother.'
toxin. 05.16.13	the actress isn't ugly at all, she's so cute
FromDaHood 05.16.13	i agree, she's super talented too
FromDaHood 05.16.13	we did that yesterday andcas
chemicalmarriage 05.16.13	mr. show fucking rules. not as good as arrested development tho
chemicalmarriage 05.16.13	they're both awesome. bob's a funny funny dude. just tobias is the greatest character ever
chemicalmarriage 05.16.13	i understand what you're sayin it's an awesome show, a really awesome show and it launched alot of careers for some funny people. But, Job and tobias, for some reason really crack me up man.
Trebor. 05.16.13	*GOB It's George Oscar Bluthe like duh
treeqt. 05.16.13	"i figured from the fact that i could translate momoiro ;-)" ur clever!!!!!
chemicalmarriage 05.16.13	damn i fucked up gob's name. sonofabitch