neekafat
09.25.17 | Watching the second as we speak. |
theacademy
09.25.17 | thought about watching this
not gonna
gonna re-watch fringe instead
weird how fringe is better than everything
k ttyl |
neekafat
09.25.17 | Fringe is god, second episode was phenomenal and the direction of the series is really unexpected
Anybody gonna use this thread or should I not bother updating? |
Drifter
09.25.17 | Just wait a lil bit my friend, they'll come.
If you do anything regularly for a while, sooner or later the weirdos will show up |
neekafat
09.25.17 | This is true lol |
SandwichBubble
09.25.17 | "If you do anything regularly for a while, sooner or later the weirdos will show up"
I have been summo-
"It really carried the vibe of the Abrams trilogy"
nah nevermind |
theacademy
09.25.17 | keep this thread and it will someday make it to 865 comments
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neekafat
09.25.17 | I will
I swear I will
Bubble just try it |
SandwichBubble
09.25.17 | we can spend this time making star wars/star trek confusion jokes cause that's about 98% of my jokes for star wars and star trek |
Drifter
09.25.17 | Tfw your Jeff Buckley quote went over everyone's heads |
neekafat
09.25.17 | Huh? |
SandwichBubble
09.25.17 | Who's that, tim buckley's son? Probably just mooching off his dad's goodwill |
Drifter
09.25.17 | "If you do anything regularly for a while, sooner or later the weirdos will show up"
Jeff says this at the beginning of the song "Night Flight" off of his Live At Sin-é album. |
Drifter
09.25.17 | Also take that back sandwich. I'll fucking duel you |
50iL
09.25.17 | Don't use Jeffs name in such vain ways |
SandwichBubble
09.25.17 | Fitting duel music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-YthCpNZmU
this is star trek right |
neekafat
09.25.17 | drifter's a nerd
Pretty sure that's futurama m8
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Rowan5215
09.26.17 | second episode was damn good and I really like that they took the show in a totally different direction there
Michael seems like a really interesting character with a lot of potential |
neekafat
09.26.17 | Yeah that was pretty ballsy if I do say so myself
I agree, Sonequa was excellent in the role too |
ArsMoriendi
09.26.17 | Can talk about how weirdly Riker sits?
I need to watch the new stuff lol |
neekafat
09.26.17 | Oh, well damn
And yeah that budget is fucking insane |
neekafat
09.26.17 | Should I watch the After Trek? |
neekafat
09.26.17 | You betcha |
Davil667
10.02.17 | I'm totally stunned that this gets as much praise as it does. Just tried to watch the first two episodes but didn't make it through the second one. They totally fcked this show up imo. The script is weak and the acting is poor, not a single interesting character. And I don't have to mention how ridiculous and generic the Klingons look and how annoying it is to follow their conversations I guess. There's no Star Trek feeling in here at all, it's just one big disappointment and one of the worst shows I've seen in a long while. Even if separated from the Star Trek label this would at best be mediocre.
I was so looking forward to this but now I'm just frustrated... I don't know if I can get myself to overcome this disastrous kickoff. |
neekafat
10.03.17 | Davil, check the third episode. Much more in line with classic Trek imo |
Satellite
10.03.17 | it just isn't star trek :/ |
Satellite
10.03.17 | didn't realize the 3rd episode (aka the 2nd pilot) is out. will check it out.
"Much more in line with classic Trek imo"
hope you're right! |
Piglet
10.03.17 | oh my god damn damn damn i was waiting for this to happen and it finally did, cant wait, cant waitcantwait to see if its anywhere near as good as the original or TNG, or even deep space nine or voyager i dont give a shit at this point |
neekafat
10.03.17 | Just updated ep 3 was the balls |
neekafat
10.03.17 | @Sat/Piglet lemme know whatcha think! So far I like it better than Voyager or TNG's first seasons but we shall see! If you like DS9 you'll be more open to this show I feel |
Rowan5215
10.03.17 | I really dug episode 3, this show has pulled off a bait-and-switch really damn well and it deserves some credit for that. Jason Isaacs seems to be perfect for his role and the space horror stuff was really well done
lads as a pleb to this show (only seen the movies, originals + Abrams trilogy plus a couple episodes of various series) where should I start |
neekafat
10.03.17 | DS9 or the Original Series
Glad you liked it rowbro! |
Satellite
10.03.17 | will do neek.
@rowan watch deep space 9. as a whole it's probably my favorite series. less episodic and more arc-driven with a very likable cast.
tng has a higher ceiling imo but it takes until season 3 to really get going. some of the early episodes are downright bad.
the ds9 pilot isn't great so don't be discouraged if you're not a fan. the series gets good shortly thereafter. |
Rowan5215
10.03.17 | ye it was pretty dope gonna be watching with enthusiasm here on
hmmm well from the episodes I've seen, DS9 and Next Gen seemed the best by far (the DS9 one I saw took place over like 50 years or something in an alternate timeline, it was really powerful stuff). TOS seems campy in a fun way but I don't know if I would fully engage in it, and Enterpise/Voyager seemed dull as all fuck it that helps
if I started with the later series, are there references to the OG that I would miss? |
Rowan5215
10.03.17 | yeah I've heard of the Riker growing a beard thing lol but I have a high tolerance for shows which start slowly |
Satellite
10.03.17 | yeah around the time riker grows his beard and the uniforms lose the shoulder piping is when tng gets good.
i have so much nostalgia toward that series. |
Rowan5215
10.03.17 | might peep both DS9 and TNG pilots and see which one grabs me more, thanks boys |
neekafat
10.03.17 | If we're being honest, DS9 and TOS are the only ones I've watched entirely, I tried watching all of TNG but it was just too hit or miss and dull for my younger self. I hear Voyager is really good too but I've only gotten a couple seasons in
TNG season 1 is unspeakably bad, just go for DS9 please |
Satellite
10.03.17 | voyager has more misses than hits imo. much weaker cast and more outright dumb episodes, too. |
neekafat
10.03.17 | My dad always liked that show a lot so I got to see some of the greats with him when I was younger, so I may be biased towards it even tho I haven't really watched it |
Piglet
10.03.17 | just a bit through the first episode now, it's like mass effect the tv show |
Davil667
10.03.17 | "voyager has more misses than hits imo. much weaker cast and more outright dumb episodes, too."
^
Couldn't agree more with that. DS9 and TNG are by far the best ones imo. The cast of TNG is perfect. All protagonist characters are interesting and the acting is great. Patrick Steward is just amazing, outstanding performance just as usual.
The DS9 cast is also pretty good. Armin Shimerman's Quark is such a great character, and the relationship between him and Odo is one of the highlights of the show.
You can't go wrong with either DS9 or TNG as a starting point.
@neekafat: As soon as I've digested the initial shock I might get to Discovery again. My hopes aren't very high though... |
Archelirion
10.03.17 | I dunno, I'd say it does feel like Star Trek. The format actually surprised me with how Star Trek-y it felt, which was my biggest concern, and the plotline itself I feel could be neat (although I'd rather a slightly more episode-led feel, but I guess that's not cool nowadays)
I admit though that the characters are going to need some work, as I wouldn't say I feel all that drawn to any of them. Hopefully this changes as it goes on, but they all feel a bit 2-dimensional right now.
Next Generation is definitely the best series, as it happens, but I have a soft-spot for Enterprise, being my first. |
neekafat
10.03.17 | @Davil, if you don't like the third episode you can give up
@Archelirion, I really enjoy Michael's character so far, and I think the captain's going to be fantastic. Not a fan of DS9? |
Archelirion
10.03.17 | I like DS9 of what I've seen, but it's definitely the series I've seen the least of so I don't wanna commit to too much. Might try and catch them now they're on Netflix. |
wwf
10.03.17 | so should I watch this show
as someone who has not seen any real star trek, I'm basically the target audience for this show right |
Satellite
10.04.17 | i liked the 3rd episode a lot. more secondary characters introduced (which is something a st series desperately needs) and i'm beginning to like michael. the captain, chief of security and engineering chief were interesting and i hope they're fleshed out more as the series progresses.
also (and i'm avoiding spoilers here) the tone of the show takes a turn toward the end of the episode and there's a glimmer of hopefulness that was lacking up until that point. |
neekafat
10.04.17 | Do it Arch!
Basically wwf haha it's definitely got a broader appeal than any other show
Agreed Sat I'm glad you enjoyed it. You basically hit the nail on the head for why I was happy with it! |
Piglet
10.04.17 | I should watch the 3rd episode but i kind of get the feeling the more I watch this tv show, the more bored I will be of the overbearing directing and writing that presents itself in the most forced and contrived narrative arc, cinematography, character development and most crucially, the presence of the captain. I guess I'm just unfairly comparing this to the peak of this franchise, what with Patrick Stewart's almost Shakespearean delivery and irreplaceable stoic and stout demeanor. Those episodes were by no means perfect mind you and at the end of the day, this is not at all bad and it has intrigue and the base qualities which make the franchise great. In truth this is all I could ask for in a Star Trek TV show in 2017 and its still early days yet so I will momentarily gird by cynicism. |
neekafat
10.04.17 | That was confusing
But good! |
Davil667
10.06.17 | Have to agree with some parts of Piglet's most eloquent and beautiful description. The whole thing just feels forced, the inspirational spark that made the Star Trek universe so interesting and lively in the first place is totally missing here.
The 3rd episode was at least enjoyable in parts but it's still no Star Trek for me. And I still hate what they've done to the Klingons. Wtf did they think when they designed them? |
neekafat
10.06.17 | Idk but the TNG Klingons were brand new too and Worf looked like ass for 3 seasons |
Davil667
10.06.17 | Lol agreed, Worf looked pretty bad in the beginning. But the Discovery Klingons just look like generic SF aliens. And they altered the language which now is painful and annoying to listen to, sounds so dumb.
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neekafat
10.06.17 | I thought it was kinda interesting but whateves, I appreciate that they're delving into their side of the war |
Davil667
10.06.17 | Opinions dude... Probably I'm a bit overly critical as I've been growing up with Star Trek and experienced the development from TNG on but I just can't get myself to like the new Klingons at all. But at least the story line got more attractive, and I can get along with the captain. He's cool I guess. |
Ocean of Noise
10.06.17 | "You can't go wrong with either DS9 or TNG as a starting point."
You could VERY MUCH go wrong starting with The Next Generation if you try watching the first two seasons. Some good episodes in the first two but most of them are boring or just downright awful. imo the best intro to Trek is TNG Season 3 onward. |
neekafat
10.07.17 | Just check DS9, your best bet |
neekafat
10.07.17 | @Davil are you gonna keep watching?? |
Bismark
10.07.17 | there are better ways to waste your time tbh |
Piglet
10.07.17 | this new captain is like a discount saul goodman |
Ocean of Noise
10.07.17 | neeka, while I would definitely agree that DS9 is the best Trek series, I'd say that starting with TNG would probably be better. It's a more traditional Trek show and the characters are very dynamic, positive, and lovable. In DS9 things get a bit grittier and more serious and that may not be for everyone. |
Rowan5215
10.07.17 | "this new captain is like a discount saul goodman"
uh
..................what? |
Piglet
10.07.17 | you have watched the third episode haven't you rowan |
Rowan5215
10.07.17 | yeah man
I don't see any similarities with Goodman at all lol
Isaacs' character is humourless, morally grey, persuasive, calm and hard to read
Goodman is like the complete opposite except for the morally grey part lol |
Piglet
10.07.17 | oh yeah it is more in the face than anything else, but i disagree that he's humourless for a start, some of the mannerisms are similar imo and since when is goodman not persuasive? |
Rowan5215
10.07.17 | I can see the facial comparison a little bit I guess
idk Saul is all hand waving, arms flapping, speaking out the side of his mouth type thing
Isaacs' character is very centred, not a lot of unnecessary movement, very soldier-like I guess |
Piglet
10.07.17 | hahahah oh well, all comparisons break down at some point and i don't take them at all seriously, even called this mass effect the tv show before
but in any case i am curious to see how he develops because there's still a lot of intrigue surrounding his character as of yet |
Rowan5215
10.07.17 | ye I really like what they're doin with the new characters so far I'm invested
I have no previous Star Trek series to compare this to which is possibly why I'm enjoying it so much tbf |
Davil667
10.07.17 | @neekafat, yeah, I'm probably hooked enough to keep watching. I'm not very convinced of this concept but at least they increased their impact level from about 5 to about 60% in episode 3. There's definitely potential in here and as we all know some serials need some time to find their pace and become as legendary as they are recognized now. |
neekafat
10.07.17 | Lol @ the Saul comparison, I kinda see it tho I never would've put it together
@Davil that's definitely true man, you'll have to tell me your thoughts as it progresses! |
Satellite
10.07.17 | bob odenkirk in star trek would be pretty fucking awesome tbh
he'd make a good alien of the week |
Davil667
10.07.17 | Haha yeah, he'd be the perfect Ferengi for sure. |
neekafat
10.07.17 | Lolol I'd watch the shit outta that |
Satellite
10.08.17 | mike and tuco both had cameos in ds9. coincidence? yes, absolutely. |
Satellite
10.08.17 | http://www.jammersreviews.com/
anyone ever read this site? it dates back to the early days of the internet. really good and in-depth reviews of each episode of every st series (and a bunch of other sci-fi shit). more often than not i agree with his ratings. it's a good reference for choosing which episodes to watch if you don't feel like watching every episode. |
neekafat
10.08.17 | Yeah man I read that when I started going through the old trek again, he's a bit cynical in his ratings but I enjoy reading them |
neekafat
10.08.17 | Just watched the first episode of The Orville. Solid 4.5/10 |
Satellite
10.08.17 | ugh seth macfarlane |
neekafat
10.08.17 | Yeah it was rough
So sad to see a talented actress like Adrianne Pialacki in that role, though she was one of the sole bright spots. I thought the alien second officer dude was alright too |
Rowan5215
10.09.17 | fourth ep was kinda a mess. still a lot of interesting plot threads but it juggled them all without really doing justice to any of them. hopefully just a brief weak spot
also (SPOILERS obviously) the fuck was with killing Landry so randomly and anti-climactically? she's gotta come back right? |
neekafat
10.16.17 | I hope she doesn't, I really hated Landry she was so boring |
neekafat
10.16.17 | I'll be updating with Ep 5 tomorrow, don't spoil it for me plz |
neekafat
10.17.17 | Yeah not a lot of effort put into that write-up |
Davil667
10.18.17 | The cliffhanger in ep. 5 was the best thing the series had to offer so far. It's the first time I'm a bit stoked for the next episode. |
neekafat
10.24.17 | Ep. 6 was great, man this show is solid. Have high hopes for next week |
neekafat
10.31.17 | Yeah 7 was fun too |
Piglet
10.31.17 | i haven't watched 6 or 7, do you actually rate them? i can barely sum up the motivation to keep on watching |
neekafat
10.31.17 | Yeah I rate them on TV.com which is a clutserfuck rn but still
Not a fan so far? |
Piglet
10.31.17 | Nah I like it enough and appreciate that it could be much worse, just don't find myself invested in the plot or characters. |
neekafat
10.31.17 | Characters are getting pretty tasty about now, still one of the best first seasons of any Trek (which isn't saying much) |
Satellite
10.31.17 | last ep was definitely the best and i love that they finally did a standalone story. rainn wilson was much more tolerable as harry mudd this time around. |
neekafat
10.31.17 | I mean, I love the serialized aspect of the show but yeah having an episodic one was nice change of pace. I'd consider the last one pretty stand-alone too |
Satellite
10.31.17 | can we talk about how much of an utter debacle cbs all access is? i have very good internet and the streaming never reaches hd quality and lags at least every couple minutes. it's worse than amazon prime, which i thought was impossible. apparently everyone is having issues with the service. cancelled my subscription before i had to pay. torrenting is just easier. not like cbs has any other shows worth watching. |
neekafat
11.07.17 | Updateddddd
My internet sucks and it still loads fine usually |
Papa Universe
11.11.17 | Finished all released episodes today.
+: visuals, Jason Isaacs and Rainn Wilson, the overall arch of the ship's mission, it also knows how to intrigue at times and is overall interesting to watch.
-: almost godawful dialogues full of clichés and boring ideas, the overexcessive exposition is unbearable (like, it appears in almost every single fucking line, they just don't want to let you think for yourself even for a second), the characters are pretty unengaging for the most part, no chemistry at all, quite a tedious plot tbh. |
rodrigo90
11.11.17 | I hate star trek.
STAR WARS RULZ FUCKERS |
Papa Universe
11.11.17 | Also, the admiral lady looks like older Caroline Dhavernas. |
Papa Universe
11.13.17 | Also, the villains subplot is beyond uninteresting. |
Papa Universe
11.14.17 | Aaaand the mid-season finale's here. Shout it out with me, kids:
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neekafat
11.14.17 | Yeah that was a bit rough |
Papa Universe
11.14.17 | I might add to the minuses I listed above the fact that there isn't really a proper memorable long-term villain. T'Kuvma was killed in episode 2, Voq was left for dead in episode 5 or so, Kol who initially seemed to be the biggest bitch they'll be building up episode by episode, but then they suddenly kill him off together with the flagman ship. Seriously, the only engaging villain was Mudd from the only episode that didn't have anything to do with the frame plot. Weird... |
neekafat
11.14.17 | I thought T'Kuvma was cool and then they just killed him and I was like... aight |
Papa Universe
11.14.17 | I suppose they want to present the entire Klingon force as the enemy. Also, T'Rell seems to be a little sneaky cunt. Your assumptions were almost correct, there really is something wrong with Ash, I'm pretty sure she made him some kind of puppet of hers. |
neekafat
11.14.17 | Yeah, there's definitely some weird shit going on there
Also, I don't know why everyone thought the admiral lady was actually dead at the end of the last one, I just kinda assumed she was fine |
neekafat
01.16.18 | Yeah okay we'll see how this goes but I'm cautiously optimistic, gonna try to get the latest one up tomorrow |
Papa Universe
01.16.18 | So it's back on again? |
neekafat
01.16.18 | Yeah two new ones out |
neekafat
01.18.18 | Oh and that shit with Saru in the MU was brilliant as well |
Papa Universe
01.18.18 | This show reminds me of Gotham's early days, before they realised how silly they are and embraced it fully. |
neekafat
01.18.18 | Nah this is miles ahead of Gotham |
Papa Universe
01.18.18 | Sure, but it's still unintentionally hilarious. I suppose it's only a matter of time before they start embracing that hilarity. |
neekafat
02.06.18 | I know I'm still behind an episode but I don't think anyone cares at this point |
Papa Universe
02.06.18 | I gave up with this show at this point, honestly. |
Davil667
02.06.18 | Two days ago I finally caught up with this as my brother seemed to really like it. Well, I don't tbh. They bring nothing new to the table, every idea has already been executed better somewhere else in the Star Trek universe. The cringeworthy dialogs and random killing of characters doesn't help the storyline either. To some degree it's entertaining due to the good and quality production but it will never be a show dear to me... |
Papa Universe
02.06.18 | I often compare it to Gotham, because both shows were ridiculous in their first seasons. But Gotham creators realised the silliness of what they're doing and stopped with that pretentious, overly serious writing. And now it is a relatively enjoyalbe dumb fun show that is actually quite self-aware of how laughable it is. I have a feeling that Discovery is about to enter that territory. |
Davil667
02.06.18 | I don't think that will happen tbh but it would be the best thing that could happen to this show. A bit of humor and lightness could seriously improve things here I guess... |
Satellite
02.07.18 | second half of season 1 was been so much better than the first. |
neekafat
02.25.18 | oy |
Papa Universe
02.25.18 | whole show rating: 5/10
just all'round ridiculous, awkwardly written mess that has great visuals and interesting storylines, but barely expands on any of it. also, for how tongue-in-cheek the writing is, it all takes itself way too seriously. in the end, the only standout episodes were the ones that had nothing to do with the season's main plot. it's neither periodical fun like the old shows, neither is it a kick-ass adventure like the new movies. just some sore thumb in the middle (and that's coming from someone who started liking it towards the end). |
Drifter
02.25.18 | I expected this to have way more comments rip |