JohnnyoftheWell
02.17.19 | "1 of 3,672"
Okay! |
americanohno
02.17.19 | it's my life's work |
botb
02.17.19 | I kind of stopped trying to do this post like 2007 or 2008 because there’s so much rise records pop metal shit under the guise of metalcore but as far as the early 90s through like 2005 yeah that’s that shit |
SlothcoreSam
02.17.19 | Don't forget, Ego Fall- Spirit of Mongolia |
Skoop
02.17.19 | subscribed |
Source
02.17.19 | 3 is awesome. Very underrated album |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | tbh Rise Records pop metal >>>>>>>>>>>>> Drop G trendcore but alright @botb |
Sinternet
02.17.19 | 'Rise Records pop metal >>>>>>>>>>>>> Drop G trendcore'
stop |
artiswar
02.17.19 | 4 is post-hardcore, only the track with Howard Jones is metalcore. |
americanohno
02.17.19 | it's def 43% metalcore which qualifies it for this project @artiswar |
botb
02.17.19 | “I like this steaming pile of poop more than this festering shit heap” - agentdb
Hey OP, check turmoil - the process of, is one of my favorite metalcore records ever and doesn’t get much love on sput |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | rise records is a factory of sadness |
botb
02.17.19 | There’s a couple diamonds in the rough on that label over the years but I’d give it about 90/10 garbage to enjoyable ratio at least for me |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | It isn't trying to beat you over the head with how "brutal" they think it is, so it automatically gives it a head up. |
dbizzles
02.17.19 | Needs more Verb the Noun tbh |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | its more 50/50 tbh, drop dead gorgeous was on rise |
botb
02.17.19 | That band sucks ass |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | They're alright, not a shining diamond but I'd say 3-3.5/5 |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | I just went through their band roster and couldn't find one band worth a shit |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | I am also an avid hater of melodic metalcore |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Apparently AFI's on their roster... hmm, aside from that I'd debate Eighteen Visions, At the Drive-In (apparently), Fire from the Gods, Issues, Mayday Parade, Palisades, Silverstein, and Thousand Below. |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Melodicore needs a revival tbh, barely any new blood in that style. |
Valzentia
02.17.19 | "I just went through their band roster and couldn't find one band worth a shit"
blessthefall and mayday parade are ok :( |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | nope |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | I'm not too huge on DGD but they're on Rise too. |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | if the day came where all melodicore and pop punk ceased to exist, and metallic hardcore and old school punk had a revival, I would instantly cum |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | That'd put a lot of promising singers out of work because elitist dicks would say they're too "whiny" to be in their "patrician" bands, lol. |
Relinquished
02.17.19 | good, fuck em and your perpetual bad taste |
Ecnalzen
02.17.19 | Went thru Rise's roster on their website out of curiosity. Black Peaks, Silverstein, and Pvris are the only bands I care about on their currently. |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Currently Digging: Meshuggah
No wonder... |
Valzentia
02.17.19 | Meshuggah good |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | idk, Meshuggah kind of bores me with the exception of like a few albums. |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | "That'd put a lot of promising singers out of work because elitist dicks would say they're too "whiny" to be in their "patrician" bands, lol."
they're out of work cause they're fucking terrible
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veninblazer
02.17.19 | "they're out of work cause they're fucking terrible"
or because people like you expect them to be "hardcore" dudebros or pseudo-operatic. |
Hawks
02.17.19 | Agent you 5’d Bullet for my Valentine. |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Yes I did, got a problem bro? |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | you realize there's plenty of hardcore singers out of work too right? you're not making any real arguments right now |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | agent what hawks is trying to say is you have the taste of a 14 year old virgin |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Those types wouldn't be out of work in your scenario, but all the ones that actually make me feel things would be out of work. So you're only pleasing yourself. |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | ok woodee |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | wtf are you talking about? in my scenario? Im talking about reality you moron. There are musicians in every genre that are out of work. you're trying to make up this weird scenario that emo singers are oppressed in the industry when its simply not true |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | "you're trying to make up this weird scenario that emo singers are oppressed in the industry when its simply not true"
They'd be oppressed in YOUR scenario where melodicore and pop punk are eradicated. |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | okay but my scenario isn't reality so i'm not sure what you're mad about. and by the way, there are plenty of melodic singers in metal that I adore, but none of them are in the mediocrity fest known as melodicore bands. |
Valzentia
02.17.19 | just start the MMA fight already |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | I'm saying if your scenario became reality, the types of vocals I enjoy most would have no room there. So I'd just have to settle for less than ideal if it happened, while you'd instantly cum. Aside from some shit tier Front Porch Step nonsense where would they have to go? |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | its hard to believe agent is my age when his 5s look like a list I wouldve made in 8th grade |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Yeah, it's hard to believe that some people are into music for different reasons. |
Sinternet
02.17.19 | keep going guys |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | linkin park? bullet for my valentine? avenged sevenfold? these are bands I was in love with when my nuts hadn't dropped yet |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Meteora is a nostalgic 5 more than anything. |
Valzentia
02.17.19 | don't do my boys Linkin Park like that :( |
SteakByrnes
02.17.19 | Why do you have to start arguments in every fucking thread |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | Ideally, this wouldn't even be an argument but rather just a discussion of different ideas. Civility is dead, and I'm not begging for a revival. |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | besides how else am i gonna get my comment number up
nah, just kidding, i couldn't care less about that |
BenThatsMyJamin
02.17.19 | "Currently Digging: Meshuggah
No wonder..."
Agent I feel bad for you sometimes but you don't help yourself |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | I can't find a robotic asf band boring? |
botb
02.17.19 | @scoop rise released fear before’s first record, and that shit is raw |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | fuckin Inter Alia was released on rise, but people don't like it for some reason lol |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | Fear before is garbage and inter alia was atdi’s worst record by far. Rise sucked the life out of the band |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | i don't hear it, for me its better than acrobatic tenement but worse than the other two |
TheMightyScoop
02.17.19 | It’s ironic how in the industry today, a sure fire way to ruin your band and prevent any future success is to sign to a major label like rise |
veninblazer
02.17.19 | ATDI already has their legacy set in stone tho |
TheMightyScoop
02.18.19 | Right but if you’re a new band on the come up and then sign to rise, say goodbye to big record sales and have fun being cut in a few years |
veninblazer
02.18.19 | yea, still nowhere near as uncultured as victory. fearless ftw |
Viriathus
02.18.19 | Fearless and Rise are both trash. Least Victory had some classic bands early on like Thursday and Snapcase. |
TheMightyScoop
02.18.19 | Deathwish, neurot, southern lord, and young god are easily my favorite record companies atm |
veninblazer
02.18.19 | Most of the bands I've heard from Fearless blow most Rise bands out of the water, and Victory used to be okay I guess |
veninblazer
02.18.19 | As It Is owns, ABR is solid, Get Scared from what I've heard is great, I Prevail is ok, Ice Nine Kills own, Movements own hard, Oceans Ate Alaska is aight, Pierce the Veil has some solid work, The Plot In You has a couple good albums, Starset's cool, Sworn In sucks ass, Set It Off I've heard fell off but I like the first two, Underoath's damn good, Wage War is mediocre, and The Word Alive is great. That's a big chunk of the Fearless lineup. |
Viriathus
02.18.19 | Movements are the only band there id jam tbh. I guess ABR are fine too but I certainlu dont like them as much as I did in High School. |
veninblazer
02.18.19 | @Moog: i mean that's a solid choice if you had to pick just one |
americanohno
02.18.19 | really wishing I chose a different user name right now |
botb
02.18.19 | lol saying victory is uncultured... victory was as pivotal for heavy music as trustkill back in the day. Tony Victory might be a piece of garbage and the label might be a fucking joke in 2019 but back then you had some straight heat |
botb
02.18.19 | Killing time, bloodlet, earth crisis, snapcase, integrity, deadguy, strife, all out war, fury of five, skarhead, no innocent victim, buried alive, stigmata, shelter... all victory bands. Hell even into the 2000s they were still putting out shit like dead to fall, darkest hour, and martyr ad. Victory as a core label has done more for metal and hardcore than rise, fearless, and whatever other pop fifth wave metalcore labels you can think of combined. |
veninblazer
02.18.19 | The only good current name I saw on Victory's website is Feed Her to the Sharks tbh, and yea Victory used to be good but nowadays not so much. |
botb
02.18.19 | Conveyer is alright but I gotta say that because they’re the homies. |
veninblazer
02.18.19 | yeah I didn't even know half the names tbh |
Viriathus
02.18.19 | Yoo botb bby Bloodlet are fucking waaaay too overlooked.
Also Feed Her To the Sharks are fuckin horrendous man pffft. |
veninblazer
02.18.19 | "Feed Her To the Sharks are fuckin horrendous" used to not dig the harsh vocals but they're like one of five newer metalcore bands (at least outside of the wristmeetrazor/vein scene) that didn't succumb to the Drop G Monster |
botb
02.18.19 | Bloodlet is just one of those bands that slips under everyone’s radar. Especially here because no one actually listens to hardcore or non-melodeath sounding metalcore on this site unless it’s Converge or Botch. |
Viriathus
02.18.19 | I think thats a common trend in general with a lot of people which is pretty sad. Lots of great Metalcore bands out there who never had the chance to shine like Converge, Botch, Cave In, 18V, ETID, and TDEP did. Like Bloodlet, Spitfire, Beecher, Skycamefalling, Undying, Will Haven, Burnt By the Sun, Morning Again, Congress, Facedown, Vision of Disorder, Kiss It Goodbye etc. I legit could sit down for hours listing all the shit down
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veninblazer
02.18.19 | Skycamefalling owns. And yeah, I know I'm guilty of overlooking acts for seemingly no reason as well. But at the same time I don't want to overwhelm myself. |
TheMightyScoop
02.18.19 | @botb im with ya. metallic hardcore is so much better than melodicore. check my bangin metalcore list for some of the shit I listen to |
gschwen
02.18.19 | I downloaded a leaked version of Tear from the Red off Napster before the album officially dropped. I listened to that shit everyday for a month before finding out that I had been listening to the entirety of 10.21 with “Sticks and Stones Never Made Sense” parked in there somewhere. That’s how I found out about SCF. |
Viriathus
02.18.19 | lol yeah good ol days of Napster, Limewire etc. having mistagged titles. |
Hawks
02.18.19 | Limewire FUCKED my computer back in the day. |
botb
02.18.19 | @slice tru
@scoop you got really good taste when it comes to that shit for real, like even some stuff I haven’t checked on there and that’s my bread and butter |
TheMightyScoop
02.18.19 | my 2 favorites off that list are probably the ion dissonance and burnt by the sun records. the drumming is fucking beastly on both |
PyramidNoise
02.18.19 | Welp.
Good luck buddy.
I've spent so long arguing about what metalcore actually is online that I don't think I even know anymore. If someone told be Iron Maiden were metalcore I'd probably believe them at this point. |
TheClansman95
02.18.19 | considering the rate new metalcore albums are released at, I doubt you'll make it before you're dead. |
TheMightyScoop
02.18.19 | spare your ears and don't even bother with modern metalcore. its a lost cause |
TheMightyScoop
02.18.19 | "I've spent so long arguing about what metalcore actually is online that I don't think I even know anymore."
Well then, either you refuse to use google or you're completely retarded |
Storm In A Teacup
02.18.19 | "linkin park? bullet for my valentine? avenged sevenfold? these are bands I was in love with when my nuts hadn't dropped yet"
I have a filter on my computer and speakers anytime I try to look up those bands and play them it only plays Limp Bizkit "Endless Slaughter". |
TheMightyScoop
02.18.19 | lol |