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| FILM: tectac's David Lynch, Ranked
One of the greatest visionaries of our time. Love him or hate him, you can't deny the man's oneiric imagination. For the purposes of this list, I've excluded short films and any incantation of "Twin Peaks" (the show), meaning no European Pilot, or "The Return," or "The Missing Pieces," or any of that nonsense. Only FIRE WALK WITH ME will be eligible, given its status as an actual standalone film. | 10 | | Dune Messiah The Iron Oak
>> DUNE (1984)
Had this not been part of Lynch’s filmography, I wouldn’t have even finished it. (The young completionist in me couldn’t resist, though.) Laughably bad at times, and even at its best it's just an imbroglio of half-baked "space" ideas. It plays by its own rules, making up things as it goes along, never cohering to a single set of governing laws that attempt establish it properly. There's so much about this that is painfully hard to watch: the costume design which often just feels like a cheap, second-rate Star Trek rip off; the awful device of voice-over "inner-thought" narration; the ineffably abysmal CG "effects" which were clearly under-budgeted (and/or over-conceptualized); its needlessly convoluted structure; its insistence on strictly being "weird" in lieu of making any damn sense; etc. Could probably go-on for a while, as I'm having a hard time recalling even a single moment when I felt like this wasn't a chore to finish. | 9 | | Empire! Empire! (I Was a Lonely Estate) What It Takes to Move Forward
>> INLAND EMPIRE (2006)
I guess there *is* a such thing as “too much liberty.” David Lynch created a 52-second-long short film in 1995 titled PREMONITIONS FOLLOWING AN EVIL DEED and it is a full-blown masterpiece (and no, I’m not being remotely hyperbolic). There were lots of restrictions—it had to be no longer than 52 seconds, it couldn’t have synchronized sound, it couldn’t use more than three takes, and it had to be shot with similar equipment to what was available to the Lumiere brothers back in the early 1900s (i.e., an original Cinemetographe camera). And Lynch, with those constraints, made a thoroughbred masterpiece. My point? Lynch’s creative prowess and artistic headspace is almost so vast and so amorphous that boundaries can help cohere those ideas into something amazing. INLAND EMPIRE, on the other hand, is an example of illimited capacity and how such freedom can turn into an unwieldy mess of comingled, half-baked ideas and methods. | 8 | | Mastodon Crack the Skye
>> THE STRAIGHT STORY (1999)
The least Lynchian film in his oeuvre, without a doubt, but my ambivalence would persist regardless of the director this was accredited to. It’s a visual stunner—those long, wordless stretches with Alvin peddling across wide-open fields with sun sets and rises in the background—but the narrative itself fails to excite me or even sustain my interest. I especially wince anytime Alvin stops to talk with various people; the dialogue is way too inorganic and the film tries too hard to be enlightening in a way that feels particularly graceless. And then there’s saccharine bullshit like the bundle of sticks which is so un-Lynch-like that I’m wondering how much directing he truly did here. It’s not awful by any means, but thoroughly innocuous, and not something I’ve ever yearned to see again after my sole viewing years ago. Final note: Sissy Spacek almost ruined this film for me in the opening reel alone. | 7 | | Death Grips Bottomless Pit
>> LOST HIGHWAY (1997)
Alas, the existence of MULHOLLAND DRIVE will surely never allow me to see this as anything more than a clumsy dry run for similar persona-swapping themes and conceits that would later be sharpened to a masterful degree. It still has its pleasures—the video tapes are one of Lynch’s most unnerving devices, and is there anything greater than Loggia’s violent (and educational) rant about tailgating?—but the bifurcated narrative and personality shapeshifting doesn’t capture Fred’s impotency with even one-tenth of the sheer power as MULHOLLAND DRIVE does with Diane’s jealousy. Two different films, sure, but the conceit is too structurally similar to be ignored, and in retrospect, LOST HIGHWAY feels undernourished. It almost works on pure thrills, but what makes MULHOLLAND DRIVE so great is the emotional resonance of all the abstract shit. Here, the framework feels hollow. | 6 | | Heart Magazine
>> WILD AT HEART (1990)
Aesthetically riveting, and Dern and Cage are having the time of their lives, appropriately hamming it up in full throttle. There’s an enervating quality to the film, though; it’s constantly in motion, but that motion is circular and (mostly) wheel-spinning, revolving perpetually between a constant stream of shady folks, vacuous heart-to-hearts, balls-to-the-walls lovemaking, and savage confrontations. Rinse, repeat. Rather glorious moment to moment, but it fails to coalesce into something greater than the sum of its parts. A “fun” if somewhat repetitious devolution into a world inhibited by caricatures, not people, lacking in lawmen but not in evil, painted with violence, surrealism, and red-hot snake-skin imagery. Dafoe is damn good here, too, rotting teeth and all. | 5 | | Death Individual Thought Patterns
>> THE ELEPHANT MAN (1980)
One of Lynch’s most straightforward (and legitimately affecting) works; though still rife with a bunch of his idiosyncratic flourishes (the tonal white noise, the dreamscape bookends, even the “omniscient zoom into darkness” shows up here), much of the load is carried by John Hurt, encompassing the awkward submission of Mr. Merrick with a gutting combination of pity and mild terror. I’ll never forget watching this for the first time and tearing up when Merrick is introduced to the doctor’s wife; his response to general cordiality is absolutely lacerating. Sidesteps manipulative melodrama by making Hopkins’s doctor just as guilty of “using” Merrick as the side-show owners, only in a slightly less debasing manner. A beautiful and surprisingly tender film, if not a particularly Lynchian one. | 4 | | The Velvet Underground White Light/White Heat
>> BLUE VELVET (1986)
Lynch excels at many things, but to me, his greatest strength will always be his predilection for fertilizing mundane suburbia with an undercurrent of unsettling grotesquerie and inexplicably affecting ugliness: This is apparent in the very opening scene of BLUE VELVET, which traverses slowly through sunshiny Americana, eventually settling down into the grass with a close-up of squirming bugs before highlighting a man who’s suffered an aneurysm while watering his lawn. Welcome to the world of David Lynch. I love the way BLUE VELVET essentially cherry-picks a duo from that perfect, white-picket-fence mentality and heaves them into a world of morbid intensity, led by hallucinogen-induced Frank Booth—Lynch’s greatest antagonist and Hopper’s best role. The obsession with weird sexuality occasionally comes off as juvenile, but there’s enough nerve-shredding ambiance here to counterbalance properly. | 3 | | Fire! Orchestra Ritual
>> TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME (1992)
Complaints of this prequel being “too different” from the show have always stunned me: We’re talking about a show hinged on a female who’s been tattered and beaten by someone her whole life, plagued by supernatural demons, and somehow people found this “too dark” and “too intense?” Huh? If anything, I find the alleviation of comic relief a welcomed change of pace (e.g. no goofy Nadine storylines here), and precisely the grim deviation that was necessary to turn this into an appropriately emotional meat grinder. “Twin Peaks” (the show) has constantly been told via the point of view of everyone in town *except* Laura, and now we finally get to see the world through her eyes. (And my god, it is frightening.) The dismal underbelly running beneath the plasticized façade is exquisite, and this is an excellent exertion of Lynch’s squeamish talents. | 2 | | David Lynch Eraserhead OST
>> ERASERHEAD (1977)
A masterpiece wedged snugly at the intersection of overwhelming surrealism and grotesque abstraction: Is there a film in existence with better sound design? Such dolefully macabre textures? A more nightmarish evocation of unprepared parenthood ever? Even setting aside the subtext, ERASERHEAD works on such a visceral and atmospheric level that no deeper explanation is needed to catalyze my internal reaction to…that *thing*, surely one of cinema’s most searing props (“Mother, they’re not sure it *is* a baby!”). And yet, despite the intravenous unease flowing throughout the entire film, I’ve always garnered a strange, inexplicable sense of comfort (yes, *comfort*) from it. Maybe it’s because I (have) share(d) the same anxieties as Henry, and I, too, inhabit a world that’s overrun with ancillary sounds and white noise. I’d rather not look any deeper, to be honest. | 1 | | Converge Petitioning the Empty Sky
>> MULHOLLAND DRIVE (2001)
A perfect amalgam of Lynch’s talents as both an illusory director and an abstract writer; a half-remembered comingling of daydreams and nightmares, a fragmentation of ideas and threads that slowly trickle downward until the final thirty minutes, when everything abruptly (and terrifyingly) snaps into place. The eerie aura that cascades over the film is dizzying, even in scenes of ostensible normalcy, something’s “not quite right.” The construction of this beast is sheer wizardry. It’s amazing that it was originally intended to be a television show and this is the surgically edited “film” version: I can’t imagine it any other way, frankly. Solemn and horrifying in equal measure, there’s nothing that accurately captures the sense of dread that washes over me during the opening nighttime prowl across Mulholland Drive. | |
tectactoe
08.06.19 | Let's discuss, cinephiles.
(This one's for Rik.) | Zorg
08.06.19 | I agree with your number 1 but Inland Empire is way too low in my opinion, it should go behind The Elephant Man. | Pheromone
08.06.19 | I actually agree pretty much completely with this one. No other film captures me in the same underlying unease as Mulholland | BAT
08.06.19 | i actually didnt like mulholland drive until after i dug a little into twin peaks years later, as it stands that movie has several amazing scenes yeeeeet i feel like lynch compromised his vision in order to make it a stand alone movie. eraserheads probably my favorite and inland empires amazing iff your too inebriated to walk, definitely his weirdest. i've heard that fire walk with me has been reissued with over a hundred minutes of bonus footage, still never gotten confirmation on that soo someone lemme kno | tectactoe
08.06.19 | I know many Lynch-heads who put INLAND EMPIRE near (or even *at*) the very top of his filmography, but it's one of the two (along with DUNE) that I actively dislike. I guess I kind of see the appeal, but the purposely poor quality (why DV? why?!), bloated runtime, and (imo) failure to filter all of the strands down to anything meaningful just puts me off.
And you're right Phero, MULHOLLAND DRIVE is two hours of creepy unease followed by thirty-ish minutes of "holy fucking shit." | wojodta
08.06.19 | 7 would be my #2. Also, i'm not a big fan of 2. Other than that, we're pretty much in agreement. | tectactoe
08.06.19 | Funny enough, the first time I saw ERASERHEAD (probably close to 12 years ago, maybe more) was before I was really "into" film and I kind of hated it. But I never forgot it's weirdness and remember, several years later, searching for "that one black and white movie with the weird baby" once I'd caught the cinephile bug and loved it the second time. | Chortles
08.06.19 | I love Lynch but I've still only seen around half of his films -- kind of doubt anything I have yet to see will top Mulholland Drive, but who knows. One of those gaps is Eraserhead, but I'm lucky enough to have the chance to catch it at the cinema in 35mm in a few weeks. pretty stoked | tectactoe
08.06.19 | Dude, awesome. I saw ERASERHEAD 35 mm back in... 2017, I think, a midnight showing at the only semi-arthouse cinema near me, and it was an unforgettable experience. Not only did my friend and I almost spin out and die on the way there (it was January in Michigan, ended up being one of the heaviest snowfalls of the year that night), but the theater was surprisingly packed, and the crowd was awesome, laughing and just having a good time. It was truly an awesome night that I wouldn't trade for anything, and it boosted my (already high) feelings about the movie. I really hope you enjoy it. | Rik VII
08.06.19 | "(This one's for Rik.)"
:3
Can't argue with the ranking, although I disagree with some of it. I already mentioned that I love Inland Empire, but disliking or (especially) hating it is in no way an unjustifiable reaction to it.
Like I said, my second favorite artist, not because he has that *one* masterpiece but because of how a large chunk of his work seems like different perspectives into the same "strange world" (including musical works like Floating Into the Night, which I genuinely love), and that world is basically one big body of art and one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen/heard/whatever. Lynch's audacity in exploring dream worlds has been important for my own personal development as an artist and someone who thinks about film and art in general. He once defined film as "picture and music flowing together in time", and that definition, logically, doesn't include story, obvious meaning or intellectual enrichment. He has so many scenes that feel oddly "musical" (especially those music video-like sequences in Lost Highway and in parts Inland Empire). Reminds me of Wong Kar-wai, which is one of the reasons why I always see them as two different branches of the same tree, so to speak. Vastly different in what they aim to convey, but the approches are very similar. (Chungking Express, like Inland Empire, was also filmed without a script.)
But enough rambling, maybe I'll put some ranking together and post it here, but probably not today. | Rik VII
08.06.19 | "i've heard that fire walk with me has been reissued with over a hundred minutes of bonus footage, still never gotten confirmation on that soo someone lemme kno"
The deleted scenes have been released as bonus material on some editions of the original series' phyiscal release, named "The Missing Pieces". I don't think it's hundred minutes (at least not the deleted scenes, maybe if you count some other stuff), and if what I've been able to gather on various video platforms, there's not much revealing about it, the infamous "convenient store scene" disregarded.
Might be the appropriate place to mention that The Return is amazing and top 3 Lynch imo . . . | CugnoBrasso
08.06.19 | Damn, seeing lists like this one makes me wish I could rate movies on sputnik. Mulholland Drive is an undisputed masterpiece. | Trifolium
08.06.19 | I've only seen No. 1 and 2, so that's good I guess! Needless to say, both ruled. | iglu
08.06.19 | I think mullholland is a bit overrated, I think twin peaks was the one that stuck with me the most. | Larkinhill
08.06.19 | Always been a Lynch fan but had actually never watched Twin Peaks. I’m on s2 ep 10 and fucking loving it. Gonna watch FWWM and The return after.
Definitely agree with your number 1, but Elephant Man would be my number 2. Lost Highway and Blue Velvet Battle it out for third and I agree that Inland isn’t that good. | tectactoe
08.07.19 | Nice. Midsection of Season Two says a bit tbh, since the main plot line has already essentially been answered, they spend a lot of time on weird tangents. But the last few episodes are awesome. I think my all time favorite was Season 2, Episode 7. Nightmare. | MarsKid
08.07.19 | Have fond memories of watching Mulholland Drive for the first time freshman year of college. Hooked my laptop up to the TV, found a link, played it late at night. Remember feeling a little bad for the neighbors to my dorm when the climax hit, got a wee bit loud haha | Larkinhill
08.07.19 | Yeah that’s what I hear. I found out who the killer was and from what I’ve read, the rest of the season is pretty spotty but the finale is awesome.
Really looking forward t The Return, I’ve heard it’s amazing. | ramon.
08.07.19 | I think I like the idea of Lynch more than I do his works. I don't even think he is necessarily doing anything I find unsatisfactory, rather I just can't seem to get into his filmography with as much fervour as I'd hope. It's been a year-ish since I last watched something from him that wasn't that one Flylo music video so another viewing session may be in order. I quite loved Eraserhead, though I find I'm just as (and often more) fond of films it inspired than the film itself (Tetsuo: The Iron Man being a more obvious example). Hoping one day a switch goes off and I can get excited about his works because he's clearly an irreplaceable talent in the film cabal. | GhandhiLion
08.07.19 | Good takes. Dune is one of my favourite bad films ever though. | Winesburgohio
08.07.19 | i love this list but if you treat The Return as an 18hour long movie (which i kind of do) it would sit atop my ranking proudly: absolutely spectacular and proof that giving Lynch complete freedom doesn't always result in overly-abstruse wank which i happen to like!!! only problem is that ever since I saw it I haven't been able to write anything to my satisfaction because it covers all the thematic inquiries i want to but infinitely better and with more panache and is the reason i can't get out of bed. it's too good | Winesburgohio
08.07.19 | OH i have Eraserhead on VHS and it is so so cool with a little bit of added decay/generation loss; everything kind of crumpling at the seams makes the finale so much more powerful | fogza
08.07.19 | I think I need to rewatch MH. When I saw it I thought "Oh he's reached the stage where he just remakes the same movie over and over again". | fogza
08.07.19 | It's weird, I know the special effects have dated badly, but I thought the costume design and "look" of the characters in Dune was top notch. | Rowan5215
08.07.19 | was really hoping you'd do this next tec and apart from Lost Highway being a bit low I'm pretty onboard with all of this
"i've heard that fire walk with me has been reissued with over a hundred minutes of bonus footage, still never gotten confirmation on that soo someone lemme kno"
attain the Q2 fan edit if you feasibly can, it inserts that extra footage ("The Missing Pieces") back into the film and is imo the definitive version of the movie
"i love this list but if you treat The Return as an 18hour long movie (which i kind of do) it would sit atop my ranking proudly"
[2] | BigPleb
08.07.19 | Love your analysis, tec.
Lynch is probably my favourite director, probably the only one who can make me feel legitimately disturbed as his nightmarish vision feels so real.
Having FWWM at 3 made me smile, one of the most misunderstood films ever.
However, in the grand scheme of things I agree with Mulholland Drive at number 1. | tectactoe
08.07.19 | Thanks everyone.
I, too, would rank the entirety of Twin Peaks (the show) as Lynch's crowning achievement and greatest contribution to humankind, but as I state in the list description, I actively chose to omit them simply because I view television and film as mediums with very different goals and constraints, and it simply isn't fair (in my mind) to rank a several-dozen-hour long series alongside two-hour films.
(This is the same reason that when I do my Kieslowski list, I won't rank "The Decalogue" as a single piece of work. I will, however, rank each of them separately, as they all fulfill my hip-fire constraints of what constitutes a "film." That is, they all function as standalone entities, they all meet the AFI/BFI feature length requirement of 40 minutes, and they have all been screened independently in a theatrical setting.)
'OH i have Eraserhead on VHS'
This is fantastic, and watching that film on VHS with at tube television would be the most Lynchian thing of all time.
'I think I need to rewatch MH.'
It helps to have some separation with LOST HIGHWAY, since they (along with INLAND EMPIRE) employ similar conceits with (to my mind) varying levels of depth and success.
'Having FWWM at 3 made me smile, one of the most misunderstood films ever.'
Agree! It does seems like people are coming around to it more nowadays (perhaps the existence of "The Return" has something to do with it?), but the initial backlash it received was, imo, completely off-base. It feels like a gritter, extra-long episode of the show itself, with the "loftier" story tangents removed, which is *precisely* what I wanted from it. | Rowan5215
08.07.19 | FWWM is a borderline perfect piece of art and the irony of Tarantino, who would go onto make the Kill Bill movies saying Lynch disappeared up his own ass with that movie is almost too much to bear | tectactoe
08.07.19 | For sure. That entire scene in the red-tinted club gives me chills. As does Laura's possessed laughter. As does a lot of the shit during the end. I only wish they could've gotten the same actress for Donna. (Minor gripe, obviously, but I can't lie and say it isn't....weird. Plus I feel like the film excessively has characters addressing her as "Donna" so the audience is constantly reminded it's her, haha.)
And yeah Tarantino says some massively dumb shit, even if I generally love his work (aside from, not coincidentally, the KILL BILL films). To me, though, sometimes the most passionate filmmaking comes from the bowels of overbearing self-indulgence. That doesn't always make for enjoyable films -- e.g. INLAND EMPIRE -- but even if I'm not a huge fan of the film, I'd gladly take risky/bold/visionary stuff like *that* over another useless sequel, money-grabbing remake, or saturated superhero flick. | Rowan5215
08.07.19 | I'm glad we agree on Kill Bill at least, lmao - my god those things have not held up in the slightest. I think it's a shame Tarantino never really had a Mark Frost - ie someone to temper his wildest impulses with fantastic characters and a drive towards narrative without diluting the surrealist and/or weirdest shit, making some of their best work in the process. I really don't think Frost gets enough credit for how Twin Peaks turned out
personally, and I know I'm not alone but not necessarily the majority here, I fucking despise show Donna after like, S1E7 or thereabouts, and find her so unbearable towards the end she almost ruins otherwise perfect episodes of TV, like Leland's reveal and the S2 finale. conversely I wish Moira Kelly had been Donna in both iterations because she brings the character to life with such warmth and humour in the movie - you FINALLY understand why Donna and Laura actually would have been friends, perhaps the biggest actual mystery in the show's run | Rowan5215
08.07.19 | biggest mistake in Lynch's career - cutting out the "and you will weep with joy" scene with Doc Hayward from FWWM proper. that's very possibly my favourite thing he ever directed | Rik VII
08.07.19 | Ok, let's do this ... my own ranking of his feature-length films:
1) Inland Empire - What an experience. One of my favorite films. It has a very sketchy nature, obviously not aiming to tell a coherent story, but to show glimpses of a dark place. You could call it a compilation of scenes at times, but I still can't help but feel like every scene follows the one before it perfectly, and while not all of the scenes are gold, a lot of them are. I love the feeling of discovery that this film has to it. Lynch didn't know what he was doing, and the film oozes of that sense of exploration. It's like he didn't even make that film, he just found it, and he's just as curious and bewildered by it as the viewer. Magical. Uncomfortable, ugly, stressful - but magical.
2) Mulholland Drive - Not much left to say about this one. Brilliant acting, one of the most engaging mysteries in his filmography, and the last act is the best chunk of film he's ever made (e.g. above anything in Inland Empire, as much as I adore that one's ending). Watts' performance is one of the best I've seen, like damn.
3) The Elephant Man - It breathes the air of a film being made by a young, curious director, yet it is so mature in its thoughts and the way it reflects itself through the ponderings of Dr. Treves (whether he is exploiting Merrick by showing him to people, the very thing the film itself does). A lot of extremely moving moments. It's the only Lynch film that I don't see any reason disliking.
4) Eraserhead - Immensely impressive. How do you do stuff like that with 20k$ and almost on your own? The atmosphere is unique and striking, and its pictures, situations and even the sound design don't ever leave your head. Chilling movie, a bit dreary at places, but that's part of its style. (To everyone who liked this, watching The Grandmother, which is kind of a test-run for this, is highly recommended.
5) Lost Highway - The first third is one of the best things he's done. One of the most creepy things I've seen, and in such a subtle way at that. He's the master of making the horror creep up to you. Its biggest flaw is how long it takes for Pete's storyline to get going, but the ending is amazing again. A lot of beautiful scenes throughout the film.
6) The Straight Story - Lynch showing off his capabilities of capturing nature sceneries, which he never really did before or after. A bit sentimental at times, but I love the characterization and its general feel, both of which make the film come across as honest enough for the sentimentality to not feel forced. | Rik VII
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7) Blue Velvet - Only found this one "good" at first, but grew to like it more with each revisiting. Dern's acting is cringy and the story has some weird coincidences (something I can glance over if the film is obviously playing it surreal, but this one is too grounded and story-focused for those things imo). That said, the things I love most about Lynch are all there: Magical moments, grotesque situations, and a delicate work with imagery, sound, color. Not my favorite Lynch, but a great film and kind of a prelude to Twin Peaks.
8) Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - A few cringe moments and some of the actors aren't meant for the big screen (von Dohlen in particular). The more eerie moments are bone-rattling, the last half an hour is just awesome in how hopeless it feels. Underrated for sure!
--- then here's a looong leap ---
9) Wild At Heart - Annoying acting, annoying characters, daft script. I guess that's kind of the charm. I don't like it though, never will. At least the aesthetic is no less than spot-on - that's what keeps it from being genuinely bad. Feels like an untimely Tarantino film to me, which is always a drawback in my book.
10) Dune - Yeah, don't think I have to comment on this. I guess the atmosphere is interesting, but most of the time it's just silly and way too serious to excuse that. The constant voice over is one of the dumbest things ever, so annoying.
Whew, that turned out longer than intended. The Return as a whole would end up on no. 2 or 3. Also worth a mention is Rabbits, which I just plain love, but it's a short film and also more or less included in Inland Empire. | tectactoe
08.07.19 | Awesome write ups, Rik. You’ve almost convinced me to revisit INLAND EMPIRE again :) And I didn’t mention it in my capsule but you’re right, Watts’s performance is insane, Especially when you finally “understand” the overly theatric stuff on the front side of the film. Just, wow. | CugnoBrasso
08.07.19 | What I love about MD is that it contains a jumpscare at the very beginning, and after that moment you can't stay calm for the rest of the movie.
Also, I agree with your argument that not having creative limitations can be more of a curse than a blessing, but I wouldn't have chosen Inland Empire as an example to prove this thesis. Solid list though, I've never seen Twin Peaks. | DoofDoof
08.07.19 | correct top 2 - though I'd switch their ranking, Eraserhead has to be 1st | tectactoe
08.07.19 | Can't argue that. There are some days where I'd probably put ERASERHEAD at #1 also. (If nothing else, I've seen ERASERHEAD at least twice as many times as I've seen MULHOLLAND DRIVE. My wife and I used to watch it before bed all the time.) | tectactoe
08.07.19 | 'What I love about MD is that it contains a jumpscare at the very beginning, and after that moment you can't stay calm for the rest of the movie.'
Are you referring to the scene at Winky's diner? The first time I saw MD that scared the ever-loving shit outta me. The way that guy is sweating as he slowly walks back there and the sound starts muffling just a bit. Lynch is a master. | rabidfish
08.07.19 | inland empire is really cool, i dunno whatcha talking about. | CugnoBrasso
08.07.19 | Exactly! For the rest of the movie, I started to sweat every time the camera approached a corner. | Rik VII
08.07.19 | Shortly after it, Betty walks through her new apartment for the first time, and the camera is sliding along the corners ALL the time. It almost drove me mad first time watching it. The scene would have been so harmless in any other context, but put the Winky's scene before it and it's nerve-wracking. Said it before, but can't be said often enough, he's a genius when it comes to that. | tectactoe
08.07.19 | Speaking of Betty/Watts -- that scene where she's "auditioning" with that older guy is legitimately some of the best acting I've ever seen, especially when you recontextualize it against the rest of her performance in the first two-hours (once you understand the ending). | Winesburgohio
08.08.19 | i was one of those who had an erroneous analysis of FWWM on first viewing - partly, i concede, due to peer pressure - but the second watch threw me for a loop, and many recurrent viewings have confirmed it isn't just a masterpiece in its own right but a perfect coda to the original television series, with the caveat that it loses some of the nuance of the tv show (possibly due to Lynch's annoyance that the darkness of the show was glossed over). brilliant film and heart-wrenchingly tragic. | Larkinhill
08.08.19 | wesome write ups, Rik. You’ve almost convinced me to revisit INLAND EMPIRE again :) (2)
Agreed. And he convinced me. Watched it years ago and was underwhelmed, but your write-up got me thinking it deserves a re-watched. Ordered the blu Ray on Amazon. | Larkinhill
08.08.19 | What I love about MD is that it contains a jumpscare at the very beginning, and after that moment you can't stay calm for the rest of the movie.'
Are you referring to the scene at Winky's diner? The first time I saw MD that scared the ever-loving shit outta me. The way that guy is sweating as he slowly walks back there and the sound starts muffling just a bit. Lynch is a master.
One of the scariest and most tense scenes/sequences filmed. And I’m a horror buff who’s watched nearly every scary/creepy movie out there. | tectactoe
08.08.19 | Wow, I didn't even realize INLAND EMPIRE had a Blu-Ray release. Do you know what Region it is? If it's A/all, I might consider picking it up myself, since it's been at least five years since I last saw it. | Larkinhill
08.08.19 | Fuuuck, I thought it was, but now it appears it might not be so I’ll have to cancel the order. Super annoying. I guess I’ll see if Netflix has the blu Ray. So bizarre that it’s so hard to find a blu Ray copy. | tectactoe
08.08.19 | If you have a Blu-Ray player that is unlocked for all regions, it won't matter. I had one but it broke a few years ago when I moved into my (current) home, and I haven't bothered to get another one since I so rarely buy Region B/C discs anyway, and the few I had, I either already sold, or subsequently sold because I didn't want them anymore.
I keep hoping Criterion will restore some of the Lynch films like INLAND EMPIRE, WILD AT HEART, LOST HIGHWAY, and THE ELEPHANT MAN. Dunno why they recently decided to do BLUE VELVET, as the existing Blu-Ray for that is fine. (I'd rather them work on films with either no Blu-Ray release, or an off-region / low quality release only.) | Zig
08.12.19 | Lost Highway is like my 3rd favorite Lynch, behind Eraserhead.
Mulholland is his best for sure. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.15.19 | im glad you have Fire Walk With Me so high. though as far as his ~death~ trilogy go i actually prefer Lost Highway to Mulholland Drive. Inland is definitely the worst of the three, and one of my least favourites of his in general (barring the couple I haven't seen). My top 3 might be Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, and Wild At Heart | Jasdevi087
10.15.19 | I wish I liked Fire Walk With Me more but I just didn't. I think I wish it would've been a little more insightful about its topics but it just ain't. I did like though that the line between Leland and Bob is completely blurred compared to the tv show where it feels more dichotomous | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.15.19 | I liked FWWM to begin with as the darkest parts of Twin Peaks were always my favourite aspect, but The Return for me really enhanced it because of some of those same reasons | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.15.19 | The Return hinged almost like 75% on that film and 25% on the show and kind of retroactively justified its existence | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Plus Sheryl Lee's performance in that movie is fucking god-tier and probably one of my favourite performances OAT | Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | yeah sheryl lee was my favourite part about pretty much every scene she was in. | Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | also The Return is fucking god tier for straight up playing threnody for the victims of hiroshima in its entirety over a black and white fuckery collage | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Lol yup | unclereich
10.16.19 | 4 is 1
that is all | tectactoe
10.16.19 | Yeah, the worst parts of Twin Peaks were the superfluous, kitschy side stories like Nadine’s head injury and the dopey cop’s relationship with the clerk, etc. and FWWM basically tosses all that shit to the curb and goes full-on macabre for nearly two hours. I agree that Lee’s performance elevates the film to an untouchable stratosphere of visceral discomfort and the lengthy scene in the nightclub is pure Lynch. Really though, it’s the first time we get a vantage of the town from Laura’s perspective and I’ve always found that to be the most fascinating part, considering the entire show is centered around someone who is already dead. | unclereich
10.16.19 | 123
could not have said that better | Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | right, but I just feel like the way the movie handles the actual real connotations of the abuse Laura finds herself subjected to are kinda flaccid and there could have been more said about it but Lynch was too preoccupied with the violence aspect. I think it at least soooort of rectifies that bias the show has where they kind of talk about Laura as if she was the one up to the shady shit all along when they find out what she'd been involved with as if doing drugs and having sex aren't something all normal high school girls do (which as you mentioned, is why it's nice to have it from Laura's perspective). it still feels a little hollow for me in that respect though idk if i could really put my finger on why exactly without going back to it.
ngl Lucy and Andy were one of my favourite things about the original show. the ACTUAL worst parts of Twin Peaks were anything to do with James | Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | on a side note the way Lynch uses women in a lot of his movies kinda rubs me the wrong way a lot of the time in general, which I think is why I kinda prefer Eraserhead and The Elephant Man.
Interestingly though I didn't really have that problem with Mulholland Drive, i think he accidently managed to handle it reasonably well there. the three Marilyn girls in The Return were also a surprisingly apt subversion of a cliche representation of women | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | HOW ABOUT THIS JAMES
| Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | i loved how even Lynch doesn't seem to give a shit about James. He gives Bobby a pretty substantial role in the main plot of the return and then all james is there for is because he's friends with one punch man and he gets to sing his hilarious twinky pie song at the roadhouse | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | The fact that he has a role at all and reprises that song strongly beg to differ | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Ask Donna what up | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Lynch had the most creative liberty in the return and FWWM. Hes a main character in FWWM and lynch shoehorned him into the return. Why would he do that if he didnt care about him | Rowan5215
10.16.19 | J A M E S W A S A L W A Y S C O O L | Rowan5215
10.16.19 | "HOW ABOUT THIS JAMES"
this part of that scene is perhaps the greatest 20 seconds of content ever in the cinematic world | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Gonna have to hit u with a hard agreed there | Rowan5215
10.16.19 | I'm gone... like a turkey in the corn | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Ur not a turkey... | Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | meh i just kinda assumed the original actress just gave him the snob, same reason she's played by someone else in fwwm | Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | like it woulda just been kinda weird if he hadn't given the two of them major parts in fwwm since they were established as being so close to Laura | tectactoe
10.16.19 | the best part of the entire Twin Peaks series is when James is on one knee, awkwardly playing that song for Donna in her living room. | tectactoe
10.16.19 | 'on a side note the way Lynch uses women in a lot of his movies kinda rubs me the wrong way a lot of the time in general'
And, actually, I hard agree with this, and even briefly mentioned it in my longer review of FIRE WALK WITH ME:
"And while his giddy penchant for nudity and sexual treatment of women often reads more juvenile than harrowing, his mastery of fertilizing mundane suburbia with unsettling grotesquerie and inexplicably affecting ugliness remains unmatched."
Basically yeah, whenever Lynch gets sexual, it tends to feel...childish...and not so much harrowing. MULHOLLAND DRIVE, as you mention, is the one exception. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Donna actress didnt do FWWM cuz she didnt want to get her freckly ginger tits out cuz she hadn't had 74 surgeries yet | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Also I dont know what children you guys know but if lynch's depraved, cynical depictions of sex is childish to you I'm even more scared for this generation than ever before | tectactoe
10.16.19 | Maybe childish isn't the right word. But in most (not all, but most) cases, Lynch seems to interject nudity simply for the sake of it, which has always struck me as a kind of inherently juvenile predilection. I guess you could say that about a lot of nudity in films (I can only think of a relativity small handful of scene in which the nudity is crucial and/or it directly adds something to the narrative), but with Lynch it often feels even more kitschy abutted against the otherwise grim and hostile aspects of his movies.
It's a minor nitpick really, but something I've definitely noticed. Not like it ruins the film(s) for me or anything. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Hmmm. I actually find the contrary. I find sex is overtly symbolic in his films for the most part and I have never found that he is one of those people to gratuitously overload his stuff | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | And I do really hate unneccesary sex scenes | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Like sex in lynch films pretty much means bad news across the board - gotta at least give him credit for consistency. It's often almost used as a ritual for conjuring evil | tectactoe
10.16.19 | True, it's rarely erotic, save for one, I guess, but even that one is more horrifying/upsetting than anything, and that kind of carries into my feelings toward sexuality in his films: I've just always carried this overarching feeling that his approach to sexuality is, in many ways, prepubescent. That's what a meant by 'childish', but prepubescent is a better word. It's like his outlook on sex is that of a thirteen-year-old boy, giddy at the observation of it, but terrified at the prospect of actually engaging in it. I know I'm probably not explaining myself all that well, but it's more of a knee-jerk reaction that's accrued with me over the years after viewing his films. There's also a quote of him (from an interview with the brunette in MULHOLLAND DRIVE) eliciting verbal excitement when it was announced that MD would be a feature film instead of a television show because now he could include nudity. I concede that it kinda-sorta works in that film, but this notion that he giddily views sexuality at arm's-length has never really left me. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | I get the geist of that, but I do think its suiting pretty much across the board and it's not something I'd want to be removed from his films. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | He seems to earn incredible respect from all of his actresses to so even if there is some truth to that at least hes not a creep about it | tectactoe
10.16.19 | 'He seems to earn incredible respect from all of his actresses to so even if there is some truth to that at least hes not a creep about it'
True, which is a refreshing thought nowadays. I definitely don't think he *means* to seem that way about it, either, it's just the underlying notion I've been planted with and can't seem to shake completely. But again, it's such a relative nit that it's never sullied any of his films for me. | Rik VII
10.16.19 | I'm usually the first one to complain about unnecessary sex scenes, but I've always felt most in Lynch's films fit what he was going for in terms of mood - the films feel like fever dreams after all, and weird sexual fantasies are not uncommon in that kind of setting - likewise, I think the overly sexual nature of much of Lost Highway for example really enhances the film's atmosphere quite a bit, since it says a lot about Fred's personality and inner conflicts. And the last sex scene in that film is also one of the best of its kind just for how much sadness it expresses. Song to the Siren certainly helps a lot with that though. What a song.
Anyway, I'd agree with you in most other contexts, but Lynch makes it work for me due to how much his films feel like fantasies of broken minds anyway. It's admittedly interesting to me how blatantly sexual a lot of his stuff is without ever feeling just hollow to me, which is normally the case. (Cronenberg would be another exception in a way, although that doesn't include his most blatantly sexual film, Crash.)
Edit: Thinking of it, Wild At Heart is the exception to all I said above. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Agreed with all that! But wild at heart is a 10/10 valentine's movie | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Tec u should do Herzog someday | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Would also be interested in seeing Larry clark and jim jarmuschchchch | tectactoe
10.16.19 | @Pots: Someone previously asked about Herzog, and I'd love to do a rank on him. Problem is, he has so many films that I've been tracking down for a while and simply can't find. The addition of the Criterion Channel has helped, but there are still, like, ten films that I can't find at all, and another handful that I'm only able to find in very poor quality. I'll definitely keep working on his filmography in the background but don't expect it anytime soon. (Unfortunately my anxiety won't allow me to publish a semi-complete list.) For the record, my absolute favorite Herzog is probably MY SON MY SON WHAT HAVE YE DONE which is an oddball pick, but I love that film so much.
Jarmusch is in the ballpark, there are only a couple of his films I haven't seen yet (DOWN BY LAW, GHOST DOG, and THE LIMITS OF CONTROL, I think). I'll add him to the pending list of lists to finish out, thanks for the suggestion.
Unfortunately I'm not a huge Clark fan - have only seen KIDS, BULLY, and KEN PARK, and pretty much loathe all three of them. :-( | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | My son my son is my favourite herzog too. I actually really loved bad lieutenant as well, which is what made me think of him in the first place (nic cage madness) | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Havent seen down by law but ghost dog is one of his best, and limits of control is... not for the impatient lol. But I loved it. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Personally love clark. Ken park is one of my least favourites that I've seen of his tho, bully and kids are tops | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | What directors are in consideration for your next few? | Larkinhill
10.16.19 | Bully is a masterpiece. Kids is good, but not on Bully’s level. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Michael Pitt is bae so is chloe sevigny | Larkinhill
10.16.19 | And man, I love Bad Lieutenant Port of Call. I like the first one too, but prefer the POC, mostly because I love whacked out Nic Cage. | tectactoe
10.16.19 | Love both BAD LIEUTENANT films, prefer the Ferrara, but they’re almost so different in tone and style that it’s meaningless to compare them side-by-side. AGUIRRE, FIRZCARRALDO, and GRIZZLY MAN are among my other favorite Herzogs.
Was thinking of doing either Chaplin or Keaton or Murnau next to get at least one (primarily) silent director into the mix. I’d likely limit it to feature films only, though; I’ve seen all of Keaton’s shorts but Chaplin has so many that are neigh impossible to track down. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Now that is an era of film that I know exactly nothing about | Larkinhill
10.16.19 | I haven’t seen much from the silent film era, but Nosferatu is one of my absolute favorite films. Shadow of the Vampire was awesome as well. Willem Dafoe killed it.
Darren Aronofsky could be an interesting one to tackle. Or Michael Mann. | Lord(e)Po)))ts
10.16.19 | Hot take Mother! Is best aronofsky | tectactoe
10.16.19 | I have three Manns left to see - PUBLIC ENEMIES, ALI, and THE KEEP. I’ll add him to the queue.
Aronofsky is complete, I’d just have to type up the list. | sixdegrees
10.16.19 | I should finish twin peaks | Larkinhill
10.16.19 | Public Enemies is pretty good. Ali is great. Haven’t seen The Keep. | tectactoe
10.16.19 | Of what I’ve seen (the rest), HEAT is still my favorite, and for my money, contains one of the best twelve minute sequences in all of modern cinema. | Jasdevi087
10.16.19 | i saw like 5 minutes of mother! in a hotel room while i was hammered af and that's my opinion on aronofsky | Rik VII
10.17.19 | Heat is definitely one of my favorite films. Mann's filmography as a whole is very inconsistent, but Ali is great! Love that one's first half an hour. | Larkinhill
10.17.19 | The Insider and Last of the Mohicans are his best. | Rowan5215
03.19.20 | 3am and I can't sleep cos I keep thinking about how underrated Lost Highway is, and honestly maybe better than Mulholland Drive tbh
YOUR NAME? WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR NAME | tectactoe
03.19.20 | The nighttime videotapes are some of the creepiest moments Lynch has ever conjured up imo (and he's got quite a few to choose from). Still feels like too much of a rough draft at times, to me anyway, which is funny since MULHOLLAND DRIVE is literally a piecemeal reconstruction of the remnants of an intended/cancelled television show. | Rowan5215
03.20.20 | I can easily see why that's the presiding opinion, but for me Lost Highway feels less of a rough draft and more like a grittier, dirtier, more affecting version of those films he did later. and whereas, honestly, stretches of Mulholland Drive and (especially) Inland Empire just kinda bore me I can never tear my eyes off the screen during Lost Highway, it's got this crazy adrenaline running through it - it's like Wild at Heart but with better writing lol
I also think of all the absolutely terrifying shit in Lynch's filmography, nothing has ever been as creepy as the Mystery Man party scene | samwise2000
04.30.21 | Mulholland Drive is easily in my top 5 movies ever, absolute perfection | DocSportello
04.30.21 | Still haven't watched Fire Walk With Me. I was a huge Lynch-head in my teens and 20s, but as we were re-watching The Return my girlfriend started pointing out how miserable he is at depicting women (who aren't lesbians), and tbh I haven't felt excited about watching Lynch since | tectactoe
05.01.21 | He does have a sort of infantile, terrified man-child view of sexuality (and more specifically in feminine objects of desire), but in many ways that’s one of the many things that make his work so fascinating. |
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