zaruyache
11.01.19 | henri watr u doin stopppp |
Ocean of Noise
11.01.19 | Where was this posted? |
GhostB1rd
11.01.19 | B A S E D |
zaruyache
11.01.19 | in their "VERISÄKEET ALIVE" facebook event thread. Someone pointed out that Loits are an estonian nationalist band and then henri went full boomer |
GhostB1rd
11.01.19 | Finland doesn't even have migrants he's just gonna get worse. |
Dewinged
11.01.19 | "Now please go to listen to Deafheaven" lol'd hard at this. |
TVC15
11.01.19 | FUCK OOOOFFF |
Source
11.01.19 | Who losed? EVERYONE |
Alastor
11.01.19 | never heard of Loits before, worth checking out? |
Egarran
11.01.19 | I love people who label other people whiners in a long whining rant. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.01.19 | @budgie hashtag facism |
NOTINTHEFACE
11.01.19 | omg so embarrassing. What an absolute "old man yells at cloud" post. |
Demon of the Fall
11.01.19 | I was lured here under false pretenses, sort of... I didn't think a thread about the great band Moonsorrow could be this disappointing. Seriously though, what? |
Alastor
11.01.19 | It's not surprising. Antifa tried to shut down one of their gigs in the past, simply because of Moonsorrow's use of runes. So Henri is already a bit sensitive regarding this topic. |
Egarran
11.01.19 | They don't get to be sensitive. |
Alastor
11.01.19 | artists need to be sensitive, how else can they turn their suffering into music |
Demon of the Fall
11.01.19 | Yeah artists suffering is really good for my ears, I'm all for it. |
bloc
11.01.19 | Who losed |
zaruyache
11.01.19 | The friends we made along the way did |
ItsTheSquirrel
11.01.19 | ok boomer |
zaruyache
11.01.19 | basically |
ffs
11.01.19 | sorry about the moon |
Gameofmetal
11.01.19 | "in their "VERISÄKEET ALIVE" facebook event thread. Someone pointed out that Loits are an estonian nationalist band and then henri went full boomer"
oh thank god, thought we lost ya there for a second. was real worried you were going full save the black metal nazis out of nowhere |
Keyblade
11.01.19 | thought zaru lost it for a sec |
aydross121
11.01.19 | "Please go listen to Deafheaven" lmao stealing this. |
zaruyache
11.02.19 | i'll go tankie before i go fash boyo don't you worry |
Arditi
11.02.19 | Even here on Sputnik, there is no shortage of twats who throw around "Nazi" all too easily. What people don't understand is that is "Nazis" were half as prevalent as some people like to make them seem, those same people would have their balls in their throats. |
blou52
11.02.19 | It seems to me that Loits, the band that was the reason for this, isnt even nationalist in the first place. Here's a following quote from Loits taken from the book "Black Metal: Into The Abyss":
" A self-conscious person who is aware and respectful of his culture is confident and therefore able to accept and respect other cultures and nationalities around him." |
zaruyache
11.02.19 | they've repurposed antisemitic wwii propaganda posters to promote their own shows lol.
this: https://tinyurl.com/y3ec7lk8
from this: https://tinyurl.com/y3btt8mf
we're not nazis duude, we just wanna break the chains forced upon your wrists by Judaism! |
blou52
11.02.19 | I can't deny the original photo is nazi propaganda, but the poster made from it doesnt reference anything anti-Semitic. It would make sense that they chose to use an actual piece of propaganda as their poster. Their whole aesthetic is WWII related |
Alastor
11.02.19 | You could make a point that this kind of aesthetic isn't "helping" anyone and could definitely be a Marduk-like dog whistle to nazis, but it shouldn't be enough to get them kicked out of shows. |
Gameofmetal
11.02.19 | "Even here on Sputnik, there is no shortage of twats who throw around "Nazi" all too easily. What people don't understand is that is "Nazis" were half as prevalent as some people like to make them seem, those same people would have their balls in their throats."
Very difficult to determine actually. You'd have to be willfully dishonest to pretend there aren't a lot of right wing extremist groups rising around the world, all pretty much indistinguishable from neo-nazis. Also a lot of internet communities full of these people.
maybe you wanna say those people are larpers, but we can't ever know because we can't read people's minds and even just spreading antisemitic and racist propaganda is incredibly harmful regardless. Can't ignore people on the basis of "well they're probably just larpers".
Edit: random thing I saw today - https://news.sky.com/story/dresden-german-city-declares-nazi-emergency-as-extremist-views-and-violence-increase-11851760 |
Gameofmetal
11.02.19 | "You could make a point that this kind of aesthetic isn't "helping" anyone and could definitely be a Marduk-like dog whistle to nazis, but it shouldn't be enough to get them kicked out of shows."
that's up to the people that own the individual venues and no one else. The people protesting these NS bands are just making themselves heard. |
blou52
11.02.19 | @Alastor That's a valid point. I would mention that their use of the imagery is less problematic than other bands since they're writing about WWII from the perspective of Estonia, an often unmentioned nation during WWII. Or at least that's what I've heard they write about, i cant read Estonian lyrics |
Egarran
11.02.19 | Well said Game. If its any comfort, history shows without a doubt that the 'far right' is eventually a loser's game. |
