thebhoy
11.27.10 | fuckin stars of the lid.
Also, Georgian Architecture. |
Josh D.
11.27.10 | Yeah, I just fell asleep reading your summary, let alone an essay.
That's why I stick with my main man Jefferson when it comes to history. |
climactic
11.27.10 | Franklin ftw he ran shit |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | yeah but Jackson killed a guy AFTER he'd been shot already. |
Josh D.
11.27.10 | Something that is really interesting is the election of 1800. That would be quite an essay. |
eternium
11.27.10 | Colonial America is boring as hell. Otherwise, best part about the Founding Fathers is that they were pretty much nothing like how conservatives would make you believe. |
Neurisis of Luna
11.27.10 | and their refinement of the decline |
Josh D.
11.27.10 | "Otherwise, best part about the Founding Fathers is that they were pretty much nothing like how conservatives would make you believe. "
That's one of my favorite things to discuss. I have written about it several times, but it's very annoying to constantly hear the way Fox News "journalists" portray them. |
eternium
11.27.10 | According to them, they were all Christian crusaders who wanted the Ten Commandments written into the Constitution but didn't do it for gosh darn reason. |
wyankeif1337
11.27.10 | December Hunting For Vegetarian Fuckface
And interesting thing about the FF's is that they didn't want a democracy: however many other wondeful things they did, they were (to an extent) upper-class elitists, and didn't trust the common man to make big decisions like electing leaders. Democracy would've given the people that power, so they originally created the US as only a Republic. |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | to be fair, both sides of the political spectrum generally seem to mould their views of history into whatever they feel will support them best. And not all conservatives have machinations about the founding fathers, I certainly don't, though I'm not exactly conservative, more of fiscally conservative, socially moderate, depends on the issue with me really. Election of 1800 was pretty interesting, but at the time of my proposal I knew nothing about it and had 4 other essays, some of which far more complex, that made me just pick the first thing that came to mind and I find economic history somewhat intriguing. |
Josh D.
11.27.10 | Yeah, Glen Beck and his followers genuinely think that they meant for the US to be a Christian nation.
What a joke. |
climactic
11.27.10 | Our leaders now are much more Christian than most of the founding fathers.
it sux |
eternium
11.27.10 | Stop saying both sides like it's either/or when you yourself just stated that you're moderate. Yes, I am generally more liberal but I still don't side myself with Democrats or leftists as a whole. |
Josh D.
11.27.10 | "depends on the issue with me really"
Me too, I don't affiliate with any one party. |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | a lot of them were against mob rule, basically because of French Revolution (more or less, at least), and it was an upper-class elitist revolution, and maybe a more general white man revolution. And to be fair to their decision, their anglicized populace would have no idea how to properly elect a president at the time because they had never done it, land requirements had forever been a part of political office/voting. |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | "Stop saying both sides like it's either/or when you yourself just stated that you're moderate"
que? |
climactic
11.27.10 | parties SUCK. The fact that we have such a strong two-party system is pretty depressing |
eternium
11.27.10 | "to be fair, both sides of the political spectrum generally seem to mould their views of history into whatever they feel will support them best."
Referring to that. I hate when people say "to be fair, both sides (insert flaw)". |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | oh, okay. Well I don't always do that, I just feel that both sides do actually alter history in their own ways, to their own benefits. In fact, politics alters everything on both sides, hence why we have conservative and liberal trajectories of history.
And Climactic, having more than two parties would mean nothing, look at Canada, there might as well only be two parties here. And having no parties is impossible, it wasn't even functional pre-party US (ie. like two elections or something). |
climactic
11.27.10 | Oh I know that, but I tend to side with liberals on social matters and conservatives on fiscal matters, so there's generally no politician/party I can side with since the system is so divided |
eternium
11.27.10 | I hope you know that conservatives (Bush and Reagan) are the main reasons our debt is so huge. |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | I suppose so, I don't know enough about recent (ie. post-1950's) economic history of the US to either agree or disagree with you and frankly my mind is to cluttered with other junk to care, like gender roles in renaissance literature and how twelfth night deconstructs the role of the female as object of male gaze, as seen in Spenser and Wyatt who construct the female through tropes, and even gives women a gaze of their own... my other essay. Ugh this weekend sucks. |
eternium
11.27.10 | I have no idea what you just said. |
Josh D.
11.27.10 | You could've written about the role of women in the 19th century secular movements. That is somewhat interesting. |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | exactly what I mean eternium.
I hate gender history tbh. I think it's an important field... just not one I have interest in. Plus the paper is due monday and I've written 3,000 words so no going back now. |
AggravatedYeti
11.27.10 | coincidentally I think that's a pretty interesting topic you've got there Keelers. |
Terrifyer
11.27.10 | i hope it was evoked with the spirit of super patriotism |
klap
11.27.10 | why i'm a music industry major |
AggravatedYeti
11.27.10 | they have a "music industry" program at USC? |
klap
11.27.10 | yessum |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | It's interesting if you're into economic history... and I'm not American so there is no patriotism whatsoever. In fact, the entire topic is to destroy the notion of an American Identity pre-Revolution. |
TheStefan
11.27.10 | honestly the essay won't be very interesting, but it's a very easy topic to support and overall you should get a good grade on it unless you really screw it up, which is pretty hard to do |
thebhoy
11.27.10 | yeah pretty much that was my main goal. I prefer English essays anyways. |
AggravatedYeti
11.28.10 | "In fact, the entire topic is to destroy the notion of an American Identity pre-Revolution."
really this is what intrigued me about it to begin with... |
MutnikSpusic
11.28.10 | 10 is really good, but you could care more for spiritual stuff, then you could become the fecal master
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AggravatedYeti
11.28.10 | Keelan is the fecal master have no fear. |
thebhoy
11.28.10 | what is this I don't even |
