Divaman
04.24.20 | Once again, anyone is eligible to vote one time with their main account, provided that you listen to each full album at least once (although I recommend you give each two or three listens to really get a sense of what each album is about.) Voting ends next Thursday, 4/30. |
SlothcoreSam
04.24.20 | Good luck Diva.
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Divaman
04.24.20 | You too, Sloth. Not really concerned about winning and losing. I just think the Gilkyson album is pretty, and I wanted more people to hear it. |
bgillesp
04.24.20 | Gonna do better this week. Sorry Diva |
Deathconscious
04.24.20 | Both of these look cool. |
SlothcoreSam
04.24.20 | You're pretty Diva. š |
Divaman
04.24.20 | Thanks Sloth. Ya ain't so bad yaself. :) |
Jethro42
04.25.20 | Both are good listens and have their strenghts. Still different and each have their personnality. I've already a preference, but I need some more listens before giving a verdict. |
Friday13th
04.25.20 | 2 is good. It's like Pepper Proud, pretty and mostly safe contemporary folk. This one, however, is closer to the 70's folk songwriter side of the equation, which is a plus for me. The lyrics are clever, heartfelt and delivered with conviction, but sometimes the message itself irks me. |
Friday13th
04.25.20 | haha just realized Eliza Gylkyson literally IS a folk songwriter from the 70s. At least my ears are functioning. |
Jethro42
04.25.20 | Eliza's vocals are really similar to Eddie Brickell's...It's a good thing. It has very good atmosphere. Sometimes very close to Neil Young's golden era.
I dig the style of 1. They do have some cracking tracks indeed. They're reminiscent of The Olivia Tremor Control in places, and Patrick Watson or Built To Spill elsewhere, with both Thom Yorke and/or Muse kind of vocals. |
Friday13th
04.25.20 | Where do I begin with 1...
First, it is a good album with nice variety. Iāll probably come back to these guys.
Second, chamber folk is absolutely the WRONG genre label. Maybe 40% of the songs have any folk, but only about half of those have any elements that you could argue make up āchamber folk.ā Nick Drakeās Five Leaves Left is chamber folk. Joanna Newsom is chamber folk. This is not.
What is the real genre? The primary genre is clearly alternative/indie rock. Jethro is absolutely spot on about similar bands, and let me add Jeff Buckley is probably the closest popular artist I can think of. āAsleep in Perfectionā sounds just like Buckley, which is nothing to complain about. I feel like some people think just because the electric guitars are played with a clean/airy tone without distortion, it canāt be rock.
Iām completely undecided at this point. |
SlothcoreSam
04.25.20 | 1. Hole in Your Roof 5/5
2. Maroondah Reservoir 4.5/5
3. There Is No Such Place 5/5
4. Tulip 4/5
5. Tasman Awakens 4.5/5
6. Believe Me 3/5 interlude
7. Sunset Studies 5/5
8. Men Who Follow Spring the Planet 'Round 4.5/5
9. Angels of the Bowling Green 3.5/5
10. Heartbeat and Sails 6/5
11. Offer 5/5
12. Good Gardener (On How He Fell) 5/5
13. Here Comes the Night 5/5
14. Asleep in Perfection 5/5
15. Owen's Lament 5/5
Overall 5/5 classic album! |
Jethro42
04.26.20 | @Friday; I've heard at number 1, some Jeff Buckley myself at some places, vocal and composition-wise.
I agree with a bunch of your ratings, Sloth. Too much 5 to be found heh, but I agree with your ''Heartbeat and Sails'' rating.''Men Who Follow Spring the Planet Round'' also deserves that score. Definitely an excellent album. ''No Such Place'' sounds so much like Crowded House.
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Jethro42
04.26.20 | ''Asleep in Perfection'' is such a great song too. |
SlothcoreSam
04.26.20 | Asleep in perfection, is my 2nd favourite behind Heartbeat and sails.
Augie March also have a lot of strong tracks off other albums.
Check "One Crowded Hour" off "Moo, You Bloody Choir", once you have finished with this. |
Jethro42
04.26.20 | Damn right, man. |
Jethro42
04.26.20 | On the other side, ''In the Name of the Lord'', ''Dreamtime'' , ''Reunion'', ''Down by the Riverside'' and ''Instrument'' are my favorite ones. It might change. Album is well balanced, and none of the songs have to be left aside. |
Divaman
04.26.20 | I'm particularly liking "Men Who Follow Spring the Planet Round" on the Augie March album. That's the track that has most jumped out at me so far, and it's probably also the most traditionally folk track. |
Divaman
04.26.20 | On the Eliza Gilkyson album, my favorites are "Solitary Singer", "Seculare" and "Instrument". |
Jethro42
04.26.20 | ''Men Who Follow Spring The Planet Round'' is the easiest song to love, and yes, it's the most traditionally folk track in there. As Friday explained earlier, we're facing an alternative /indie rock, here, and so not many ingredients of pure folk to be found. That being said, it's an excellent - superb - kind of music, but maybe not that conform to folk, properly said, despite the presence of a certain amount of pure folk.
As a French speaker, I felt that ''Solitary Singer'' and ''Seculare'' were best mainly because of the lyrics. ''Solitary Singer'' sounds good...sounds sad. |
Jethro42
04.26.20 | Ok, I'm sold for ''Seculare''...Beautiful. |
neekafat
04.27.20 | oof, this 1st one is a bit of a chonk
liking it so far but the pacing is a bit of a problem |
neekafat
04.27.20 | Diva, this is reallyyyyyy fucking good. Reminds me of the folk my dad raised me on, loving the country touches here too |
Friday13th
04.27.20 | I agree, 2 sounds very authentic, like the good music that reminds you of your boomer parents' home. 1 is more impressive but less consistent imo. It's a tough choice. |
Jethro42
04.27.20 | I'm ready to vote early again. My choice is a question of balance. 1 is more of my thing. I could listen to it several times in a row without a problem. It's not the case of 2. the latter is fragile, inoffensive, and all the songs have pretty much the same tone. It did grow on me pretty fast, and then I got used to it and got saturated pretty fast too. Don't get me wrong, I can see and feel the beauty of it, and I still can enjoy it.
But when compared to 1, it's David against Goliath. I love pretty much everything about it. Their energy, creativity, diversity, execution and style. Plus it's some good car's music. Sure it's mostly alt/indie rock, but imo, it contains just enough folk music to have its place on here.
My vote goes to Augie March. |
DoofDoof
04.27.20 | ooh I know one of these and already have it on a 3.5, what time to be a live |
Divaman
04.27.20 | 1-0
Augie March - Jethro
Eliza Gilkyson - |
bgillesp
04.28.20 | For me 2 is definitely more consistent. I have a lot of the same options as Friday on it. Overall both are near that 3.5/5 mark though, so unfortunately they are both my lowest 2 of the rounds so far. I think Iād have to vote for 2 to move on though because Iād be much more likely to want to listen to it again down the road sometime. |
DoofDoof
04.28.20 | Ok, so now I feel I have an understanding of why sputnik users don't listen to a lot of folk/understand what folk music is lol
Neither of these picks is really out and out 'folk', same as the previous two picks.
Saying that, the Augie March (an indie album mostly) is one I already new and is very enjoyable in places (when it's at its most Elliott Smith'sy), it retains a 3.5
Diva's pick is more adult contemporary singer/songwriter stuff - it's well enough produced but just too middle of the road for my liking, but not awful in any way, 2.5
My vote goes for Augie |
Divaman
04.28.20 | Not surprisingly, I'm sticking with my own pick on this one. I like the Augie March album overall, especially the musical things going on in the song. I don't love the vocals, though, and the album feels a little overlong. As I said earlier, I especially liked "Men Who Follow Spring the Planet Round".
I just find Eliza's spiritual musings very pretty. And as I stated earlier, I particularly like "Solitary Singer", "Seculare" and "Instrument".
My vote is for Eliza Gilkyson. |
Divaman
04.28.20 | 2-2
Augie March - Jethro, Doof
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva |
aydross121
04.29.20 | Vote 2 |
Divaman
04.29.20 | 2-3
Augie March - Jethro, Doof
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross |
SlothcoreSam
04.29.20 | Sorry Diva, Eliza was pretty good, but going to have to go with Augie March. |
Divaman
04.29.20 | 3-3
Augie March - Jethro, Doof, Slothcore
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross |
Divaman
04.29.20 | Remember to vote by the end of the day tomorrow (Thursday), everyone. |
SlothcoreSam
04.30.20 | It's tight |
budgie
04.30.20 | secularia is real pretty |
budgie
04.30.20 | god the sunset album is soooo looooooooong |
budgie
04.30.20 | aight just give my vote to #2 cause i cannot stand #1 |
Sinternet
04.30.20 | jammed through 1 and going over a second time now
whole thing is really beautiful and sounds really ahead of its time for 2000, just unfortunately slightly too long, if it were whittled down to about 50 minutes it would be an easy 4.5 but am feeling a 4 on first listen.
will check 2 afterwards |
SlothcoreSam
04.30.20 | Sunset Studies is a long album, and demands numerous listens to really appreciate each track. I guess albums were longer 20 years ago then they are now, maybe millennials have a shorter attention span, or e all do, especially with streaming services and all that music at your fingertips. |
budgie
04.30.20 | if it's going to be that long it might as well be good |
Sinternet
04.30.20 | i mean a lot of that mid-section is very throwaway tbh, could have easily trimmed it down without sacrificing the moments that are legit fantastic. Sticking with a 4 for it.
After listening to 2 it's a really close call because I absolutely love her voice and there are four or five really lovely cuts on the album, there's just a couple that lost me too much. Gonna give it a 4 as well, but my vote goes to 1 in the end. |
neekafat
04.30.20 | 1 was a really good adventurous folk/rock album, but I actually preferred the rockier moments such as the opener to the somewhat bland folk offerings on here. Still, both genres are done well here, but the main thing that drags it down is the length and weak pacing that makes this even more unbearable.
2 was much more my cup of tea, it was still a bit longer than it needed to be, but Gilkyson's voice and lyrics were captivating, and she did a good job of keeping her largely stripped back country/folk sound interesting throughout. There were some truly beautiful tunes there.
It was pretty close this time around and I liked both a lot, but 2 has got my vote! |
neekafat
04.30.20 | "I guess albums were longer 20 years ago then they are now, maybe millennials have a shorter attention span, or e all do, especially with streaming services and all that music at your fingertips."
bro have u heard of drake |
SlothcoreSam
04.30.20 | The male duck? |
neekafat
04.30.20 | ill take that as a no (; |
Divaman
04.30.20 | 4-5
Augie March - Jethro, Doof, Slothcore, Sinternet
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross, budgie, neeka |
wham49
04.30.20 | have to go with 1 here |
Deathconscious
04.30.20 | Im going with 2. |
Divaman
04.30.20 | 5-6
Augie March - Jethro, Doof, Slothcore, Sinternet, wham
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross, budgie, neeka, Deathconscious |
garas
04.30.20 | Alright, I vote for Augie March. Sorry this took this long, but I asked my gf's help for deciding this round - she's really into this type of music. We liked the Beatles-ish (?) vibes in Sunset Studies and the vocals were better than in the other album, but the country songs were pretty meh, though. We found Eliza Gilkyson's album too long and alltogether a little bit boring. |
Divaman
04.30.20 | Yeah, I definitely heard the Beatles vibe on some of the Augie March LP. Thanks garas. |
Divaman
04.30.20 | 6-6
Augie March - Jethro, Doof, Slothcore, Sinternet, wham, garas
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross, budgie, neeka, Deathconscious |
Friday13th
04.30.20 | It's a close call, but in the end I'm voting for Sunset Studies. It might be a little unfair since it is predominantly alternative rock and much longer than Secularia, but it does have quite a few good so and just seems like I'll come back to it more.
Secularia does have good songs too though. I agree with Diva's song picks. |
Divaman
04.30.20 | 7-6
Augie March - Jethro, Doof, Slothcore, Sinternet, wham, garas, Friday
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross, budgie, neeka, Deathconscious |
Minushuman24
04.30.20 | Getting started on this just now.
I really love Augie March, I can see myself listening to this a lot |
SlothcoreSam
04.30.20 | Minus coming through with the goods.
Well he seal the deal and sink Diva's ship?
More breaking news in an hour. |
neekafat
04.30.20 | @garas you liked the vocals on 1 better than 2??? |
nuklearmoose
04.30.20 | I gotta vote for Secularia here |
dmathias52
04.30.20 | Gotta give my vote to Augie March. The first seven track did absolutely nothing for me, but from āMen Who Follow Spring the Planet āRoundā on, it was a near classic for me. Once they embraced the folksier roots, it was outstanding.
Secularism was very good for what it was, just not very engaging to me. Some great lyrics no doubt, and I enjoyed when it got pretty roots-y. But when I went back for my second listen, I didnāt really remember any of it.
So Augie March for me! |
Divaman
04.30.20 | 8-7
Augie March - Jethro, Doof, Slothcore, Sinternet, wham, garas, Friday, dmathias
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross, budgie, neeka, Deathconscious, nuklearmoose
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neekafat
04.30.20 | Surprised that people are convinced by the folky side of Augie, it was the rockier side that I thought was more exciting of that one |
Divaman
04.30.20 | If Minus goes with 1, looks like it's over. If he goes with 2, we've got to track down Northern Skylark for the deciding vote. |
Friday13th
04.30.20 | @neekafat I agree, the folk songs are not the best ones. Some are far too traditional English/Irish sounding. |
Jethro42
04.30.20 | If I had known it was so tight, I wouldn't have voted :/
I always tend to vote early in trying to not making a difference for the votes, but it's not always the case apparently...
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Divaman
05.01.20 | Not to worry Jethro. We're glad to have your vote and your participation. |
Jethro42
05.01.20 | Cheers Diva, buddy. Keep up your good work! |
Minushuman24
05.01.20 | I've gotta go with Augie on this
The album was entirely way too long, but I can see myself returning to this quite a bit. 3.9
Fave Tracks: Hole in Your Roof and There is No Such Place
Eliza's project seems promising, and it was a nice listen but I rarely felt engaged throughout the entire runtime. 3
Fave tracks: Reunion and Emmanuelle |
Divaman
05.01.20 | 9-7
Augie March - Jethro, Doof, Slothcore, Sinternet, wham, garas, Friday, dmathias, minus
Eliza Gilkyson - bgillesp, Diva, aydross, budgie, neeka, Deathconscious, nuklearmoose
I'll wait until midnight my time to make the official call, and if Skylark shows up we'll add his vote, but it looks like this match goes to Augie March. Congrats Slothcore.
I'll put the next match up whenever I roll out of bed tomorrow morning (unless I get particularly inspired before I go to bed). |
SlothcoreSam
05.01.20 | Good Game Diva, was an epic battle between man and sloth.
If i do win this round, I'll get really folky. |
Divaman
05.01.20 | Of course, if a late wave of Eliza votes comes in in this next hour, I'm gonna pull an Al Gore on your butt and take back my concession. :) |
SlothcoreSam
05.01.20 | Lol, i better not bump this thread too much then. |
Divaman
05.01.20 | Not until after 12mid ET, anyway. :) |
Divaman
05.01.20 | Wait, there are still a few outlying districts in western Florida that haven't reported! ... Oh, Ok. The winner is Augie March by a vote of 9 to 7. Good job, Sloth! |
SlothcoreSam
05.01.20 | Lol.
Yay!!!
I'm going to put a place holder down for the next round so people don't steal it.
Mellow Candle- Swadding Songs.
https://youtu.be/r9YTwsIohGc
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Divaman
05.01.20 | Just a rule clarification - the album you have now is the album you have throughout the tournament. So in the next round, it will be Augie March going up against whoever wins our next matchup. |
SlothcoreSam
05.01.20 | Oh OK, i thought we would rec another album. Oh well
Everyone should listen to Mellow Candle anyway, it is really good psych folk out of Ireland, circa 1971. |
Divaman
05.01.20 | I'll probably follow Friday's example and do a Folk Tournament around the same time every year. So hold that thought, and enter it in next year's tourny. |