TheAshes
09.09.11 | list is digs in no order. I'll take recs |
climactic
09.09.11 | there isnt a certain number, you write an essay and apply in the forums |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | Monica became staff with zero reviews
She now has two |
TheAshes
09.09.11 | right I'm just asking how long have you been reviewing before you applied and became contrib/staff |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | That shoutbox is pretty funny |
TheAshes
09.09.11 | btw thanks Thomas |
anarchistfish
09.09.11 | I can't remember who it was but someone became a contributor or staff after a year and that was considered quick. |
AngelofDeath
09.09.11 | Monica's just been chinchillin'. |
anarchistfish
09.09.11 | how the hell did she become a staff reviewer? I thought she might have been one of the founders or something but she joined after I did |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | She was probably a writer for a different site or something |
anarchistfish
09.09.11 | that's the only explanation I can see |
Sowing
09.09.11 | I'm not the authority on this, but this is how I understand it: It's a combination of everything you do on this site. The number of reviews aren't as important as the quality of your writing, but it is still important to be consistent and show that you won't fall off the face of the earth immediately post-promotion. It is also about how you handle yourself on the site - how you handle criticism, how you interact with other users and the staff, what you contribute to the site outside of reviews (do you post news items regularly? do you make interesting music-related lists, or ones that get deleted every time?). Personally, I had around 70 reviews when I got promoted but it's not like there is a time frame...it kind of happens on a need-to-have basis, meaning that if a bunch of staff become inactive, it is probably time to place the emeritus tag on them and bump up some contributors or in rare cases, regular users. Typically, it seems this happens about once a year (?) but I'm basing that off the limited time I have seen since I have really only been active for 2 of my 3 years here and I have seen 2 batches of promotions over that stretch. Sometimes they also choose WHO to promote based on what types of genres/bands you review in order to try to keep the site balanced.
But as a whole, how good of a writer you are is probably the most significant determinant. |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | She's kind of famous if you google her |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | Oh my god dude
That's serious
|
robertsona
09.09.11 | wtf jesus that's terrible |
BallsToTheWall
09.09.11 | Back in the day it took about 20 reviews and you got it instantly, but in these days contributer got thrown around too much, became bloated and then the great purge took place. Forcing us to earn them again. However, that said I still feel the staff/contributing reviewer population is bloated but not that it really matters, seeking a internet title is pretty lame, something I learned over the years. |
robertsona
09.09.11 | and it's gone |
Sowing
09.09.11 | i guess for privacy |
bannedwarrior
09.09.11 | dont listen to metal |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | Privacy is important
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Eko
09.09.11 | just make kimm a contrib to rebalance the gender issue |
aok
09.09.11 | "but it is still important to be consistent and show that you won't fall off the face of the earth immediately post-promotion" andyantar? |
bloc
09.09.11 | Zero |
Crysis
09.09.11 | Basically what Sowing said. After the re-working of the contributor system, it took me until I had 100-something reviews to get the spot. But yeah, character, work ethic and simply overall writing quality is far more important than quantity. |
BallsToTheWall
09.09.11 | some new tag needs to be made between contributor and staff, like contributor elite or general or some shit, something catchy. |
aok
09.09.11 | contributor elite sounds pretty catchy |
bannedwarrior
09.09.11 | spellcaster |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | Super Contributor
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ControlDarts
09.09.11 | c*ntributor |
toxin.
09.09.11 | What is this discussion that got deleted? Argh curiosity will be the death of me.
Also Super Contributor actually sounds like it could work imo |
Trebor.
09.09.11 | You had to be there |
MarsGodOfWar
09.09.11 | I am a better writer than any of the Staff or Contributors who write for Sputnik, and I've only written something like 12 or 13 total reviews (on various accounts long since banned) |
taxidermist
09.09.11 | Pics or it didn't happen. |
toxin.
09.09.11 | He must be Rembrandt
and darn Trebor, okay. I blame school. |
Athom
09.09.11 | Contrib at around 40 some and staff around 80 some. Also all the news submissions had to help. |
Gnocchi
09.09.11 | Pics or it didn't happen.[2] |
FromDaHood
09.09.11 | It took conrad 30 reviews I think |
Gnocchi
09.09.11 | Yeah he got it pretty quick |
toxin.
09.09.11 | I thought it was always the quality of your writing. When I think about it, Staff Writers on Sputnik are all really, really good. Technically sound of course, but more importantly they know what they're talking about.
My only real criticism of staff writers is that they review too much stuff right when it comes out so they have no time to digest it really. But then again, I think that comes with the job of being a (semi-?)professional reviewer. |
FromDaHood
09.09.11 | It would be pretty irrelevant to review a new release two weeks after it came out |
toxin.
09.09.11 | Yeah that's exactly the problem. Hell I see it all the time, where albums will have a "3.0" review and then the reviewer comments on it with "1.5" on it lol |
Acanthus
09.09.11 | After awhile though the same staff keep reviewing the same genre (hint: Davey) and so even if the review is the day after release you can be relatively safe in trusting them. |
WashboardSuds
09.09.11 | pretty good list, props for 6 and 4 |
joshuatree
09.10.11 | contrib at 15, then stripped of contrib status, then got it again at 30-some, and then staff at 50-some |
Willie
09.10.11 | --My only real criticism of staff writers is that they review too much stuff right when it comes out so they have no time to digest it really. But then again, I think that comes with the job of being a (semi-?)professional reviewer.--
We almost always get promos from the labels, so we generally have the album a good month or so before the release date. For example, I got the new Insomnium last week and it isn't out until October.
I got contrib when they were giving it away, and lost it when they did 'the great contrib' purge. I think I got it back a week later with maybe 40 reviews. As for staff, I think Jom and Dave just wanted to piss off the other staffers with my promotion. |
Acanthus
09.10.11 | Willie you deserve your position! |
toxin.
09.10.11 | @Willie, oh really? I know I've read before that you guys do, but it does sometimes feel like some reviews were made after one listen, maybe to beat internal competition for the feature (or maybe not, just my own speculation) |
Willie
09.10.11 | --I know I've read before that you guys do, but it does sometimes feel like some reviews were made after one listen, maybe to beat internal competition for the feature (or maybe not, just my own speculation)--
The mods feature albums and we know when a staff writer plans on doing a write up, so there's not really any competition. If staff is doing it, we'll wait for them until they say otherwise (unless they're really late on a big release). |
Crysis
09.10.11 | "For example, I got the new Insomnium last week and it isn't out until October."
fucking jealous |
AggravatedYeti
09.10.11 | fucking LOL. |
Sowing
09.10.11 | You have no idea how stoked I'd be to get just one album ahead of its release for once |
dimsim3478
09.10.11 | I don't care how long it takes, whether it be fifty reviews or two hundred reviews like Dethtrasher, I WILL BE STAFF (I'm only 13 so I have a lot of time to get there)!! |
wabbit
09.10.11 | the matrix reloaded isn't nearly as good as the matrix |
toxin.
09.10.11 | @Jom, so most labels know who you & Dave are? That's pretty cool. Also, thanks for the information. I guess I didn't realize just how professional staffers are. To be honest this makes some of the trolls on staff reviewers look even dumber. No wonder you guys don't even bother with them |
illmitch
09.10.11 | dunno why im not staff yet |
Poet
09.10.11 | I've been wondering that same thing too. You'd write some bitchin reviews. |
UnnamedOcean
09.10.11 | I'd kind of like being a contributor some day. But that involves writing more reviews and I'm not into that whole effort thing. |
Athom
09.10.11 | I think that's one of the cool things about the site (and also a negative at the same time). On one
hand there is the staff/contributor side of things (and those aspiring for those positions) that put
out quality and informative reviews that cover a broad base of music, but on the other hand the
community aspect of a the site can be kind of off putting to those that are unfamiliar with the in-
crowd of sputnik. It's just finding a balance between cultivating good writing and putting up with the
hivemind. |
Athom
09.10.11 | give it to MJ |
FromDaHood
09.10.11 | I heard SeaAnemone is the front runner |
Athom
09.10.11 | o rly? |
Gyromania
09.10.11 | I seriously need to start reviewing more. |
MarsGodOfWar
09.10.11 | give it to MJ [2] |
Gnocchi
09.12.11 | the threads pretty good for info,
for me, maybe one day lol |
