It will be interesting to see how people react to his political music today vs. when he railed against Bush.

Back then when being liberal was the counter-culture it was cool. Will the same be said today when the counter-culture is nationalist/conservative?

I actually enjoyed this track. Beat is kinda awkward and haphazard though.

Edit: nevermind it sucks

Lmao the features

Second half of this is significantly better than the first

perhaps one of the worst songs I've ever encountered

i like the beat & verses (for the most part) but the chorus is pretty dumb

and yeah, second half is a welcome change-up
this is unmistakeably "modern-day Eminem," but the higher level of it at least

@Arcade - The culture/bias in media is overwhelmingly skewed toward liberal views, and has been since Obama took office.

Do you really think conservative/nationalist views are at forefront of media or those views are what today's artists are espousing?

I'm not supporting conservatism/nationalism, I'm saying they're the counter-culture beliefs right now, and liberalism is the mainstream belief.

Fucking awful.

"this is not correct please don’t say it in real life"

Okay, go up to a random man/woman aged below 30 and ask them if they're pro life or pro choice. I guaran-fucking-tee you that most people will say they're pro choice. If you say trans people have a mental disorder and shouldn't be allowed to identify their own gender you're looked at like you're the devil by most people in my generation.

Song is pretty good.

Featuring Ed Sheeran, wat?

God damn this is terrible.

so bad

trashy song.

tfw using the word 'cringe' is actually appropriate

Can't wait to have this song forced on me despite my best efforts to avoid it.

"the counter-culture is nationalist/conservative?"

I really don't get how being conservative is considered counter-culture. I mean, maybe it's just because I'm in the UK and we've had a conservative government in office for the past 7 years.
To me, the counter-culture has always been anarchist/anti-establishment perspectives, rather than the wishy-washy conservative/liberal perspectives the mainstream media forces on us.

yeah hell probably win a grammy or some shit cause "hes so brave"

the second half is actually pretty ok, compared to how fuckin awful the first half is

still a hard 1 overall

dumpster fire

I... actually fuck with this.
Way better than that Beyoncé feat at least

It's okay, the little change-up in the middle is nice.

Jesus Christ I actually REALLY fucking hate this and I am one of those people that really dug Marshall Mathers pt 2.

Singles are such balls, I really hope the album is better than this shit.

Not sure what to think. Beat was decent enough, pacing of verses standard. But the chorus was putrid. Was the same reaction as "Walk on Water" for me.

Musically, this song really has no balls. Tries to be a slight throwback to The Eminem Show where it had rock beats and aggressive performances but this song sounds like it was neutered for radio play

Lmao the features [2]

incredibly gay and lame song btw

'As Dallas overshadows the battle for Black Lives Matter'

hahahahah

At least Ed Sheeran is going to make an appearance to bring some hard truth and grit. Shit’ll be like gravediggaz.

this is the worst thing ive ever seen

this is better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awg9EbBo4mc&index=34&list=PLv3TTBr1W_9tppikBxAE_G6qjWdBljBHJ

Eminem ends many years ago.

The second half was pretty good actually. First half is a mess.

Yeah these features do not look promising.

who allowed hed pe 2 produce eminem

Em's the last to know the only people who listen to him these days are the white people he hates.

His last 3 albums: "Recovery", then throwback to MMLP, now "Revival". What are you doing dude

Eminem really has a hard time writing a memorable hook and this proves it again, still interested to see where this record will go

Hmm, I do see the trend.

Mark my words, he will have an album in the future called Resurrection

@cloakanddagger

In the U.S. we have one conservative media outlet (fox news), with all the others being liberal. For the last 8 years globalism and acceptance of other cultures has been the mainstream focus here, and with Trump's election nationalism is taking hold against the globalism promoted by the establishment institutions here.

Culturally; conservatism is counter-culture right now, at least in a good portion of the states. It became counter culture when having conservative beliefs suddenly became "racist" to the younger generation over the last 10 years, and now most conservatives who openly talk about their views (especially in hotspots like California) are demonized.

Oh yeah, and song's pretty mediocre. Lyricism is really underwhelming for his past standards.

is it just me or is eminem's flow really awkward these days compared to how it used to be? Compared to as recently as even Relapse. I wonder why that is? Surely he must be able to notice it himself?

when i first saw the tracklist i had hope the tracks without features would be a lot better, but this is straight garbage.

flow is off, beat is bad, and for the love of god he shouldn't ever try to do his own hook ever again.

fucking awkward ass song

edit: dear god those features

Em's flow since the second MMLP sounds just like his BET Cypher, as if he's recording each of his songs like it's a freestyle or battle rap

Infinite tune was dece

Eminem's flow really has been awful and choppy for a while now, like he barely listens to the beats. I saw an interview once where he said he had to basically relearn how to rap when he got sober and I believe it

'Culturally; conservatism is counter-culture right now, at least in a good portion of the states. It became counter culture when having conservative beliefs suddenly became "racist" to the younger generation over the last 10 years, and now most conservatives who openly talk about their views (especially in hotspots like California) are demonized.'

please never post again

'please never post again'

honestly just proving his point, conservatives feel persecuted and not fairly represented; it doesnt really matter if they really are or not, cause they feel like they are regardless

theyll still vote for some psycho to enact their reactionary bullshit

its funny to watch them play the victim card and get on their persecution complexes because a lot of people don't take kindly to their ideas that have dominated the mainstream establishment political landscape for decades

but to describe conservatism as a counter-culture when the whole american system is controlled by conservatives and every major news outlet endorses conservative or neoliberal economics even if they hold a few progressive social values to cover up the fact that they're massive corporations that ultimately only care about how to make the most profit? yeah no im not buying that one but. wanta real copunter-culture in the us? try the dsa and associated organisations

and lol at them feeling not represented when they hold every major office in the us

How anybody can say that conservatism is endorsed by main stream news outlets is beyond me.
In terms of having a structured society with a foundation of family, core moral values linked to religion and instilled discipline them days have long gone and are sneered at by everyone and everything.

"and every major news outlet endorses conservative or neoliberal economics"

Wait what? pretty much all major news outlets bar Fox News are hardline liberal / left-wing.

How anybody can say that conservatism is endorsed by main stream news outlets is beyond me. [2]

Even auntie (that’s the BBC to you yanks) has lost its impartiality to a point where I’ve thought about tossing in my licence fee. Completely fucking ridiculous.

@Zak: Yeah I've been wondering about that, I thought BBC wasn't supposed to take sides? But for the last two / three years I've seen them grow increasingly left wing.

please tell me which of the mainstream american news outlets espouse left-wing economic and how exactly they do so

lol at thinking the bbc was ever impartial, its always been biased towards the party in government at the time, which shockingly atm is... the conservatives

This is the gayest thing ive heard all day

I’d disagree sin. The internet and 24hr coverage have completely skewed what the BBC was. There is the odd moment where it’ll still prove itself to be great but there’s too many moments where they take the blatant piss.

examples?

this is a music website. Where do i get my name changed?

i have decided i do not like this new name

I have decided to become muslim and hate gays but be loved by gays simultaneously. This is alt right in its ultimate form only i and anthony fantano are this woke

One brief scan of the internet site and I’ll say.

Africa in pictures? (Which is a weekly thing) Fucks it got to do with me?
Impending Trump doom.
Stormzy is their music artist of the year (course he is)
Man charged in NI over daubing a snowman carrying a rocket launcher.

PCP. A PC police victory.

Jeez this was bad

Substantial evidence that Em has completely lost it.

Hey Marshall, the year 2000 called, it wants you to hang it up!

I don't agree with his views, but I can put that aside if the music is good. Which it is not.

"Wait what? pretty much all major news outlets bar Fox News are hardline liberal / left-wing."

Lmfao

"Wait what? pretty much all major news outlets bar Fox News are hardline liberal / left-wing."

Lmfao [2]

cancer thread of the day

when the left gets judgemental and controlly they are no different than the far right and liberty fails, its all authoritarian

le epic horseshoe theory wins again, praise enlightened centrism

"Does sputnik have to turn every thread into a heated political debate these days ffs"

Did you even listen to the song?

why bother squabbling over politics when the song is so delightfully and predictably dogshit..

fair point im up for more em-bashing

Can't argue there actually

Conservative views aren't being marginalized? UC Berkeley says "hi."

Doesn't help when the vast majority of Republicans are Christian, and Christian pastors claim to their masses that they're being persecuted in the United States. I've seen two different pastors do it and I live in the most liberal city in my state.
Good write up tho man *thumbs up*

Arcade schoolin these dummies out here

His flow in this is so fucking off for some reason.

Not sure what to think of this track

How can someone say conservatism is the counter culture when they control ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT right now

once upon a time eminem had more good albums than bad but he just consistently sucks now

"How can someone say conservatism is the counter culture when they control ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT right now"

Do you understand what culture consists of?

wow this is embarassing

"Do you understand what culture consists of?"

Yes and saying America has just one "culture" is a ridiculous statement. Conservatism is obviously not counterculture in a vast majority of the country.

The establishment culture is predominantly anti-conservative. This is simple fact.

It's also anti-left in the sense of communism, (most) socialism, etc., but that doesn't change the fact that it's anti-conservative in nature.

god damn conservatives !

Good god...

Jesus Christ what happened to him. Never was a big fan, but omg.

Also: Culturally; conservatism is counter-culture right now, at least in a good portion of the states. It became counter culture when having conservative beliefs suddenly became "racist" to the younger generation over the last 10 years, and now most conservatives who openly talk about their views (especially in hotspots like California) are demonized.

Stop copy pasting Paul Joseph Watson rants on sputnik please. I agree that there is liberal outrage culture in certain parts of the media, but how is being conservative "counter-culture" when the President is a conservative, the house and the senate have republican majorities and fox news is the biggest cable channel.

Eminem got butt raped and it shows. his entire discography is about him being salty about being butt raped. She I mean he's like the male version of them divas, shading and whining about everything on her I mean his path.

Y'all need to take some happy pills and chill. Eminem you too. Have a nice day guys

Youth culture is extracted from music, film, school, college, peers, idols and interests. That is all ridiculously ‘liberal’ nowadays. 🌈 laces on match day at football grounds? Fuck is that about? Nobody cares just play the fucking game.

The youth of today top to bottom is a horde of nodding heads singing from a sheet of non offensive, unquestioning, enforced doctrine espoused by the left for the purposes of controlling the masses by making everything ‘acceptable’

That is fact.

@zakalwe pretty much, if you are a celebrity then you are some sort of wiseman.

Having said that from what I’ve noticed and from those I’ve spoken to the ‘younger’ generation those who are early teens are starting to smell the bullshit and are a bit more rational. Thank fuck.

Mental health costing too much? - release ‘em into society and normalise it.
Drugs? - legalise it.
Religion has too much control over peoples values? - delegitimise it.
Family as a unit can’t be broken down? Deconstruct it.
People who speak the truth - Lambast them and shut it down.
Question it? Criminalise it.
Have a paraphillia? - Accept it.
Dare to speak out? - ignore it.


Welcome to the farm.

I'm glad he's doing something different even if it's weird. I was so sick of his overly produced shit as of late.

uhh when the fuck has music, film, TV ever not been produced by a majority of left leaning people? ever? you sound like a middle aged man ranting against those filthy immoral godless hippies in the 60s.

When did Zak turn into Alex Jones

Good bless M&M making America political again.

looks like a few of you up there need a break from the Internet

"Will the same be said today when the counter-culture is nationalist/conservative?"

lol.

great majority of political power in the US is "conservative": all 3 branches of government are republican (5-4 for supreme court), yet being conservative is so revolutionary, and unique!

anyone against abortion can burn in (non-existent) hell

"uhh when the fuck has music, film, TV ever not been produced by a majority of left leaning people? ever?"

so hard imagine that the people whom often stigmatize people who want to go into music, film, TV (+other liberal arts) careers, tend to not take part in them...!

cold take: "being pro-abortion AND pro-adoption is schizophrenic"

who said that

I'd like to knock their teeth out

some african trad woman i follow.

why would you follow her?

why would you follow her?[2]

i didn't follow any african conservatives so i figured why not.

Also anyone who refers to it as "pro-abortion" as opposed to "pro-choice" is pretty much guaranteed not to have anything of value to say on the topic

ah going for that well-rounded approach eh?

nah she shreiks about the gays every now and then so thats funny

pro-life and anti-gay. wow, this woman sounds unique.

i followed 2 hoteps but i think they both got banned and have new accounts.
the memes were indeed good.

Trump's meme game is strong, ngl.

http://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/politics-music-eminem-is-extremely-angry-donald-trump-hasnt-responded-to-his-rant-20171118

NOTICE ME TRUMP REEEEEEEEEE (i need free publicity for my dumpster fire of an album)

Eminem's like a spoiled child who's throwing a tantrum when his dad won't pay attention to his arts and crafts project.

Negro Malachite.

Snide bashing someone for being starved for attention

That's fucking rich

"Snide bashing someone being starved for attention"

Takes one to know one

How old is Marshall now? 40 odd? What an absolute berk.

Yeah, the dude's a middle aged dad, and he's throwing a temper tantrum about the president of the US not noticing his diss track. It's actually kinda sad.

it really is tbh. also look at that album cover. unspeakably obnoxious.

wtf is this lmao

it sounds like some random bandcamp eminem wannabe

It's pretty obvious what's left and what's right in American media.

"Tragic Endings (featuring Skylar Grey)"
Probably the only track I'm excited for, given that her feature on Papa Roach's "Periscope" was rad

"Mental health costing too much? - release ‘em into society and normalise it.
Drugs? - legalise it.
Religion has too much control over peoples values? - delegitimise it.
Family as a unit can’t be broken down? Deconstruct it.
People who speak the truth - Lambast them and shut it down.
Question it? Criminalise it.
Have a paraphillia? - Accept it.
Dare to speak out? - ignore it."

Where do you find these copy pastas man. I swear I can get like 2000000 baziljion karma points on /r_the donald.

i'm pretty much over eminem srry

"Youth culture is extracted from music, film, school, college, peers, idols and interests. That is all ridiculously ‘liberal’ nowadays. 🌈 laces on match day at football grounds? Fuck is that about? Nobody cares just play the fucking game."

Except their are Youtube channels with millions of subscribers who make their living of "triggering" liberals. And spreading completely fucking insane right wing propaganda.
Like Soy turning men into "left-wing" pussies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTSvLKY7HEk

(also it's highly amusing to see someone complain about young people being whiny brats and complain about fucking rainbow laces in the same sentence.)

It’s this insistence that everything thats fringe, or underground or a subset is forced into society ‘for the greater good’ and is required to become ‘the norm’

YOU WILL ACCEPT!!!!!!
Otherwise what? Nobody gave a fuck in the first place mate. Stop forcing it down our throats like it’s the be all and end all that a premier league player takes it up the Shitter.
Fuck off.

I really like Paul. His vids are irritating as fuck but I’ve never heard him speak anything other than truth.

woof this sux.

ah zak i see you are a consumer of brain force plus

Yes you will accept equal rights and equal treatment of people who are not part of the majority, because that's what western liberal universalism is about.

PJW is a lying, 100% partisan hack and if you can't see that you're living in a dream universe.
Nothing but the truth: "Soy makes you a feminine pussy and left wing supporter."
"I also take brainforce everyday and shill for it constantly." (but I haven't noticed that brainforce contains soy)

Not a fan of dogging Eminem because of his age tbqh... too many 35+ year old rappers have dropped quality projects the past couple years and it's only going to continue

Of all the things to get mad at PJW about I'm surprised you chose his dietary opinions.

"I really like Paul. His vids are irritating as fuck but I’ve never heard him speak anything other than truth. "

lmfao

predicting this will be the pinned post on the cursed liberal images fb page

The soy thing definitely holds some weight.
I’m sorry to offend but I honestly don’t think we all have ‘equal rights’ I don’t think anyone is entitled to anything.

People in prison - Fuck ‘em.
People who aren’t capable of wiping their own arse - Sorry you’re going to be looked after but some ‘rights’ are going to have to be rescinded.
Gay adoption - Sorry
Blanket bans on hate speech - Get to fuck.

Disagree, agree, disagree, agree.

2/4.

“Gay adoption - Sorry”

Wtf?

whats wrong with gay people adopting? how exactly is it different from anyone else? don't you think kids would rather be adopted than have to live their entire lives without a family? thats not even going into prisoners rights or the rights of the disabled which clearly you are an incompassionate piece of shit about

The rights of the disabled clearly have to be limited for their own safety. I hope you don't think a severely retarded person should be allowed to operate life threatening equipment, e.g.

life-threatening equipment almost always requires a licensed professional with training to use - ordinary members of the public don't have the right to use it anyway so thats not really an example of taking someones rights away

Sint don't even try this bullshit. You think someone with dementia shouldn't be strictly supervised and have their rights limited? Don't be a dumbass.

nothing to do with disability - i wouldnt want an average joe off the street operating a crane or something anymore than i would someone who is 'severely retarded' unless they were qualified and licensed to use it in which case its fine

Yea I wanna run out in the freezing weather in my nightgown cause that will go well when I forget where I'm even going.

what rights are you limiting exactly because this is lowkey one of the dumbest things itt

Again I don’t want to come across as some nutter but I feel that when society pokes its nose into nature it’s nothing but a testament to the arrogance of man.

The whole natural world is based on male and female reproduction. It’s the foundation of everything.

I’m not saying gay people can’t be great parents but it just doesn’t sit right with me. The nurturing bond of mother, the steady hand of father. You can’t just fit into the role. It’s inate.

It's like young children. They have restricted rights cause they can't comprehend the consequences of their actions.

again, what rights are you exactly talking about because you seem to be going off on the idea that having medical care is somehow a restriction on rights?

How is this hard for you? Serious question.

wow we're actually talking about this shite?

paul gets a decent amount of things right but he's clearly a partisan hack. he's often wrong, self-contradictory and refuses to listen to anyone when he is rightfully told he's wrong. there has to be some kind of cognitive dissonance in his head that occurs when he pretends to care about facts and science.

He looks young for 35 so his regimen must be on point.

Where did he go?

it's probably all that super male vitality he takes

"The soy thing definitely holds some weight.
I’m sorry to offend but I honestly don’t think we all have ‘equal rights’ I don’t think anyone is entitled to anything."

Find me any credible academic sliver on the soy thing. Or wait. I'll spare you the time. It doesn't exist. So it definitely does hold 0 weight.
You're not sorry to offend (and you don't have to be, tbh. I'm not offended and I don't think it would matter if I were). I reject the notion that everyone who disagrees with you is a triggered, offended lib-cuck.

"People in prison - Fuck ‘em."

What? This is so simplistic. Of course we're restricting one of their most basic rights (freedom) because they did something we deem to be immoral. But how does that amount to "fuck 'em"? What does fuck 'em even entail And why should it be like that?

First of all, you can be in prison for many reasons. Should they guy who shoplifted twice and get's sentence to prison for 6 months be as fucked as the serial child rapist?

Why are we punishing people in your opinion? To take revenge and let them be fucked? How would you justify this?

People who aren’t capable of wiping their own arse - Sorry you’re going to be looked after but some ‘rights’ are going to have to be rescinded.

What point is this even supposed to be? Of course disabled people can't be treated the same in every circumstance. Who even advocates for something else. But should we try to make life a little easier for them when we can? I think so. (Things like wheel chair ramps are not ruining society, because fucking stairs are the "natural" way to go)

Gay adoption - Sorry

Naturalistic fallacy. Look it up. You know what's natural? Sitting in the jungle or some cave, bleeding to death after watching your kids freeze to death and your wife get abducted, buttfucked and killed by some other tribsmen. Living in comfy homes with air conditioning, typing away on your laptop is certainly not natural.

Blanket bans on hate speech - Get to fuck.

Hate speech laws are generally bad, but so is hate speech and establishing a robust culture of civility and civil discourse would be preferable to screaming "kek, faggot, cuck-snowflake, get fucked"

+1 to everything ed said

Fuck ‘em - Like they fucked whoever it was over to get in the joint in the first place.

Wipe their own arse - I mean this extremely broadly. The people who manipulate and conive their way into housing, benefits, and social care do not have ‘the right’ to the same entitlements as the genuinely needy disabled or not.

Gay Adoption - I had a quick check on the fallacy thingamabob and I think you’ve set yourself up with a false opposition on that one. female and male reproduction IS natural and no amount of psycho babble can suggest otherwise. 2+2=5

Hate Speech - I think we are agreed on that one.

zak youre fucking killing me

its sad that morons like zak are actually allowed to vote

Facist

idk how old u are zak

u sound old as shit like 50 plus or are you just dead jaded

I was idealistic once then life happend.

Suddenly zakalwe rating the new Morrissey album a 4 makes a lot of sense

lol

btw i actually listened to the song and it's maybe the worst song of the year

Zak is cool as fuck though

Zak in my heart of hearts I know you're a great dude, but man o man you get my blood pressure up sometimes.

"I had a quick check on the fallacy thingamabob and I think you’ve set yourself up with a false opposition on that one. female and male reproduction IS natural and no amount of psycho babble can suggest otherwise. 2+2=5"

Naturalistic fallacy means something different. What you're doing is: You're saying something IS natural, therfore we OUGHT to do it. You're arriving at a moral conclusion by simply looking at nature. (Heterosexual parenting/reproduction IS naturarl, therfore we OUGHT to do it)

I was trying to point out that you can't use this reasoning, because i can apply the same logic and arrive at horrible conclusions. Conclusions you will not like. Rape is occuring in nature, both in human and animals. Therefore we ought to commit rape? Using anything other than you're two feet to travel IS NOT natural, therfore we OUGHT NOT to do it?
You see that this line of thinking can't be right?

(Also there is loads of problems with insinuating that Gay adoption is "unnatural" in the first place. The child will still have been conceived by hetersexual reproduction, it just so happens that the parents can't/won't take care of it. Homosexual relations are also happening since the dawn of time in both humans and animals, so there is nothing unnatural about it.)

"Fuck ‘em - Like they fucked whoever it was over to get in the joint in the first place."

Ok so people who killed someone. Kill'em. People who raped someone, rape'em. ??? this can't be it. but I'm having trouble making sense of this. (not trying to be an ass, I genuinely don't understand your point)

"Wipe their own arse - I mean this extremely broadly. The people who manipulate and conive their way into housing, benefits, and social care do not have ‘the right’ to the same entitlements as the genuinely needy disabled or not."

I mean yeah... I guess but I don't see how we're still talking about rights of disabled people at this point. Obviously someone who pretends to be sick and is a fraud has no right to any subsidies.

He did a good job with the Cheech and Chong sample. It really fits well with the narrative. I wouldn't have imagined it could work. But it's a good chorus sample.

did he forget how to rap or something. he sounds like an amateur here

I see what you’re saying Ed but I’m talking biological processes in the natural world.

Falling pregnant is a process.
Rape, or murder is an ‘act’ perpetrated by something being dominant or finding its place in the pecking order, acting on its base primal sexual urge or whatever in the animal kingdom.

It’s not a case of (quite literally) monkey see monkey do.

The family is a structured network of mother, father, nurture, guidance and love which I think cannot be replicated by two fellas or two woman. Again sorry but I feel it in my gut.

his point is, just because it can't be replicated (assuming this is true for argument's sake)...does that mean it *shouldn't* be?

Aaah! The old school perception vs perception war.

cancer is a natural biological process

your comment was a biological stress

It’s like I said key dude. The arrogance of man interfering to accommodate the demands of society.

We are spoiled. An entitled race who wants what they demand as soon as possible with no forethought or consequence because it’s done with no resistance other than a raised eyebrow. This ultimately isn’t a bad thing because believe it or not ultimately I am live and let live.

The deconstruction of the ‘family’ is not healthy though, it has been happening for decades and gay adoption is just another way to erode it.

Hard to keep defending Eminem after hearing turd upon turd 10 years and counting.

"The deconstruction of the ‘family’ is not healthy though, it has been happening for decades and gay adoption is just another way to erode it."

But.... How? How does it errode the family, I don't even understand. Gay people can't aduct children from heterosexual parents. If I grant you that heterosexual parenting is somehow better, (which I'll just do for the sake of argument, even though I think there is absolutely no evidence supporting this claim and infact plenty evidence supporting the opposite) is it better to have no parents than to have a two women adopt you, because "the steady hand of the father" is missing. In an orphanage there is no steady hand of the father. There are three stressed social-workes (probably all women btw.) for 29 children.

And look how many children from orphanages or adopted homes are led astray or fall into a perpetual cycle of wrongdoing.

That’s not to say all but there are a lot.

People need to be told the value of family, it’s fucking difficult and an absolute trial but the rewards are untold.

"And look how many children from orphanages or adopted homes are led astray or fall into a perpetual cycle of wrongdoing.

That’s not to say all but there are a lot. "

Kind of proving Ed's point here

It’s about stability. Does a loving homosexual relationship offer stability? I’m sure it can do but....and this is obviously my opinion and I mean nothing by it.....BUT I have met one ‘stable’ homosexual couple in my life and they didn’t want kids.

The others I’ve met (and this includes direct close family members) live a sexually gregarious lifestyle. Open partners, infatuation with sex and are a bit dare I say it self obsessed which ain’t a great recipe for stability.

how many children from bad families and bad parents 'fall astray'? its not clear cut and a child who spends their life in an orphanage or moving between fooster homes is far more likely to turn out bad compared to a kid who has been adopted into a family, be that one with same sex parents or heterosexual parents

it might just be an anecdote, but one of my close friends from secondary school was adopted by two lesbians when he ws about 8 (which is way past the usual age of adoption as most kids are adopted when they were very young) and they are absolutely some of the best parents i've ever seen, always supportive, always getting involved with the community, they worked hard to provide him, etc.

you clearly haven't met many gay couples then, i mean coming from practically the gay hotspot of europe i can tell you it's no different and possibly even the opposite - i know far more commited long-term homosexual relationships between friend of mine than heterosexual ones

I'm not sure this zakalwe dude has met anyone ever other than clones of his shitty self

Again the reality is of over a quarter of a million marriages per year in the UK 15000 are to same sex couples which is what? 6%.

The actual amount of people who state they are homosexual is less than that I believe. Even if it’s 10% it’s drastically less than we are led to believe by media, educational facilities and people demanding equal rights who aren’t content unless the world and its wife are gay.

The more I think of it the more I honestly think it’s some form of disorder

"The more I think of it the more I honestly think it’s some form of disorder"

Think about it all you want, people with more expertise than you have determined it isn't.

"The actual amount of people who state they are homosexual is less than that I believe. Even if it’s 10% it’s drastically less than we are led to believe by media, educational facilities and people demanding equal rights who aren’t content unless the world and its wife are gay."

So now your argument is since there aren't many of them they shouldn't be allowed to adopt?

yeah ok im done arguing youre just a self-serving prick

I haven’t got an argument I’m just discussing it and offering a bit of personal opinion.

Change the word argument for personal opinion then. The sentence doesn't sound any better either way tbh

Worst thread of all time

Also fuck off @zakalwe

"So now your argument is since there aren't many of them they shouldn't be allowed to adopt? "

literally 'ur a minority so u don't get rights'

and in the same post he mocks them for wanting equal rights 😂😂😂

I’m not arguing anything for or against I’m just discussing it at the minute in wider terms.

My overall argument if you really want one is what was said earlier about the biological natural order of things but I can hear both sides tbh.

"it's just my opinion but it should be implemented" is not exactly fair
opinions are for personal implementation not to be forced on everyone. I do agree on that.

"It’s about stability. Does a loving homosexual relationship offer stability? I’m sure it can do but....and this is obviously my opinion and I mean nothing by it.....BUT I have met one ‘stable’ homosexual couple in my life and they didn’t want kids."

And I know a homosexual couple who has adopted a child and guess what. The child is great. The couple is great, they own a house and are together for 25 years. Anecdotes are great, aren't they?

Fair play to ‘em. How olds the child?

Jesus, Zak makes Em look like Harvey fuckin Milk

And to think all of this happened in an Eminem thread lol

politics


not even once

This isn't even the worst Eminem thread involving politics though.

I love when mainstream artists making mad money off the establishment/status quo make political songs. It's the silliest thing ever

I agree but that's not really applicable to Eminem. Dude's always been "for the culture" since the beginning and probably feels like as the biggest white rapper ever and prob the biggest rapper ever it's his responsibility to speak out on these issues which I have no problem with. Song is still sorta trash tho

who allowed hed pe to produce for Eminem? [2]

“Who aren’t content unless the world and its wife are gay”

Or

“Ugh, they want MORE rights? Can’t they just be content?”

Also, “unless the world is gay”? Yes, that’s definitely the plan. Operation homonormative.

Why do artists always play it safe near the end of their career? Like fuck, try releasing a song that isn't the same thing over and over again.

Everyone is a gay sleeper agent, all we need is more chemicals in the water. First the frogs, then - the world

Holy shit this thread

Thread turned to shit real fast

I mean it was bad to begin with. This really isn't as terrible as everyone is making it out to be.

Ugh just listened to the song, that awful hook is gonna be stuck in my head all day now

Album leaked.

leaked 'heavy duty like diarrhea' as this wordsmith would say

Cindy! Album is leaking

I want to hear how bad this album is but I also don't want to download the album and spend time listening to it. Conundrums..

Save that bandwidth bro

yeah I could not be less excited for that leak

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/images/members/1092387.jpg

police academy or revenge of the nerds?

WHITE BOY WHITE BOY

lol this is so bad i cant believe i liked it first listen

"Why do artists always play it safe near the end of their career? Like fuck, try releasing a song that isn't the same thing over and over again."

idk, i guess a lot of them get really rich from their success and comfortable and just don't have that hunger that they did earlier on, so they phone the shit in cuz they know theyre getting paid either way