Deathspell Omega LP incoming

2019-05-02 by on suicide watch | 200 Comments
The Furnaces of Palingenesia is the title of the newly revealed Deathspell Omega album, announced in typical fashion for the mysterious avant-black metal legends in as low a key as possible via a bandcamp post. Recorded live and mixed on all analog gear, it is slated for release on May 24th; here is the tracklist:


1. Neither Meaning nor Justice
2. The Fires of Frustration
3. Ad Arma! Ad Arma!
4. Splinters from Your Mother's Spine
5. Imitatio Dei
6. 1523
7. Sacrificial Theopathy
8. Standing on the Work of Slaves
9. Renegade Ashes
10. Absolutist Regeneration
11. You Cannot Even Find the Ruins…



"Ad Arma! Ad Arma!" has been made available as the single: deathspellomega.bandcamp.com/track/ad-arma-ad-arma

The band have also released a music video for the track, viewable here:


Tagged: Deathspell Omega

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DarkParaclete666
May 2nd 2019
2 Comments


Ah, you beat me to it!

brainmelter
Contributing Reviewer
May 2nd 2019
8336 Comments


also beat me lol
at least I can add it to db

BigPleb
May 2nd 2019
65784 Comments


AOTY confirmed, best news ever.

Hawks
May 2nd 2019
88861 Comments


Yep. m/

clavier
Emeritus
May 2nd 2019
1171 Comments


this and new misthyrming coming out on the same day, nice

Hawks
May 2nd 2019
88861 Comments


Same day? Fuck I’m gonna jizz everywhere.

Nacen
May 2nd 2019
10 Comments


cool

DungeonBoy
May 2nd 2019
9746 Comments


"Band dropped a music video"

what is this world coming to?

Tyler.
May 2nd 2019
19025 Comments


nice

JayEnder
May 2nd 2019
20052 Comments


Finally some cool metal news. Been a dry year for heavy music.

Essence
May 2nd 2019
6694 Comments


I COULD NOT BE HARDER, THIS IS PEAK FULL MAST

DungeonBoy
May 2nd 2019
9746 Comments


I dig it

Demon of the Fall
May 2nd 2019
33994 Comments


May 24th, that’s soon! Nice! Looking forward to this.

Hawks
May 2nd 2019
88861 Comments


I COULD NOT BE HARDER, THIS IS PEAK FULL MAST [2]

Eakflanderyof
May 2nd 2019
5507 Comments


Pretty fucking solid. Cool video too

JayEnder
May 2nd 2019
20052 Comments


Dat album art is beyond sick.

Makemebad35
May 2nd 2019
1050 Comments


stoked

Firedust
May 2nd 2019
1176 Comments


fuck yes

Deez
May 2nd 2019
10330 Comments


Dehn sora did the vid. Goddamn genius that kid

mindleviticus
May 2nd 2019
10498 Comments


YES

SpiritCrusher2
May 2nd 2019
6370 Comments


"this and new misthyrming coming out on the same day"

what a time to be alive

Kusangii
May 2nd 2019
6648 Comments


Sweet

Hawks
May 2nd 2019
88861 Comments


“Finally some cool metal news. Been a dry year for heavy music.”

What year are you in bro???

CugnoBrasso
May 2nd 2019
2717 Comments


And I just came back from the Mgła gig lmao, a great day for black metal

R4zor3dge
May 2nd 2019
1450 Comments


This should be good, Paracletus was solid.

asanisimasa
May 2nd 2019
164 Comments


fuck yes

CugnoBrasso
May 2nd 2019
2717 Comments


Band has been consistently amazing for the past 12 years, they will be remembered.

DarkNoctus
May 2nd 2019
12212 Comments


track rules

MO
May 2nd 2019
24030 Comments


sweet

Space Jester
May 2nd 2019
11038 Comments


I dunno I’m kinda doubting this will top Periphery

icatchthirtythree
May 2nd 2019
1149 Comments


damn that single + video are fucking sick. slower song but it works and the production is fantastic

GooGooGajoob
May 2nd 2019
236 Comments


GET THIS PERIPHERY DICKHEAD OUTTA HERE!

Veldin
May 2nd 2019
5275 Comments


SpaceJester you best be joking. Beautiful artwork and incredible single. Excited to see the lengthier tracklist too. m/

Space Jester
May 2nd 2019
11038 Comments


Joking about what

Lord(e)Po)))ts
May 2nd 2019
70242 Comments


im sure this will end up being one of about five metal albums i check this year

Lord(e)Po)))ts
May 2nd 2019
70242 Comments


yes.. much so

Lord(e)Po)))ts
May 2nd 2019
70242 Comments


I missed Synarchy but Fas, Paracletus, and Drought were all great

Space Jester
May 2nd 2019
11038 Comments


Synarchy isn’t anything too different but if you dug those other ones there’s really no reason you wouldn’t enjoy it as well. Haven’t checked the new track yet but I’m sure it’s rad

JayEnder
May 3rd 2019
20052 Comments


Track slays. Video is intensely bleak.

Also sorry Hawks I have yet to even check a lot of lowkey stuff, might have to take the L there haha.

zaruyache
May 3rd 2019
27445 Comments


[growling in french]

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
May 3rd 2019
32053 Comments


Great track, great video, great news, great band, great times.

oltnabrick
May 3rd 2019
40686 Comments


i like it!

Dewinged
Staff Reviewer
May 3rd 2019
32053 Comments


Love you too Dariusbrah!

*hellicopter headbanging*

rafalafa
May 3rd 2019
289 Comments


Oh no my dick out

BigPleb
May 3rd 2019
65784 Comments


Splinters from Your Mother's Spine

Dats metal m/

clavier
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
1171 Comments


"also is it weird I understood every symbolic meaning of that video"
nah man now I just want you to explain all of it


luci
May 3rd 2019
12844 Comments


apparently their singer is a nazi. makes the album title sound quite anti-semitic

lecolumbus
May 3rd 2019
227 Comments


nazi? bro hes just a intellectual satanist i swear bro

deathspell omega be like: antifa can't picket/protest our shows if we don't play any shows

mikko aspa, the vocalist is a cooked cunt, here's the info on him

https://varisverkosto.com/2019/03/the-influencers-of-the-finnish-ns-music-scene-part-3-mikko-aspa-of-northern-heritage-clandestine-blaze-vapaudenristi-sarvilevyt/

clavier
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
1171 Comments


some people are saying they got a different vocalist for this album but who knows

Eons
May 3rd 2019
3770 Comments


The video seems to have their usual theme of the futility of human existence. Is that a giant scale in the video with people hanging from it? There's a reference to justice in one of the track titles. Of course, this band's ideology is often rife with themes of nihilism. There are people hanging from the scale and a man trying to pull a huge stone. Again it seems to be about futility. Meaninglessness. The title of the album references rebirth. There's a sort of theme of war, power, and enslavement that seems very much in line with some of the themes on Synarchy (both have nods to Greece, Christianity,etc.) There's a lot to uncover, as usual.

As far as Mikko Aspa being a nazi it's worth noting he has also said that neo-nazis believe they are special and that their country/race is special but that he disagrees and thinks that humans are mostly just meat, ''often unintelligent and unimportant.'' (paraphrase).

Anyway, I thought this would happen soon and I'm glad I was right. He sounds AWESOME. This is like the most accessible Deathspell Omega song if you can call it that. I will listen to the song over and over and the album over and over, keeping me busy for months analyzing things. That's probably the best thing about this band. By the way that is definitely Mikko Aspa's voice. He has a very deep voice and Finnish accent. He's very easy to recognize.

luci
May 3rd 2019
12844 Comments


the mental gymnastics to prove bm bands aren't nazi are always amazing

i remember that burzum thread where someone said varg wasn't a nazi because he has different views than them on ecology

CugnoBrasso
May 3rd 2019
2717 Comments


Yeah vocalist ist most likely Aspa.
My grandmother told me that the fascists used to hang people upside down to execute them, and such an image is present in the video (although I think that was a fairly widespread method in the past). DsO is probably my favorite metal band, but this NSBM thing makes me quite unconfortable.

Eons
May 3rd 2019
3770 Comments


Trust me, if Mikko Aspa was a neo-nazi he is the kind of guy to tell you straight up that he is and not apologize whatsoever. Do you not know much about him? Deathspell Omega's beliefs go far deeper and eclipse that simple bullshit of NSBM bands. As I said once, it's nihilism. I can say it again but if you want to believe he's nazi, that's your problem. It's a shame because it isn't really Mikko's band. He just visits the band in France and records with them there. The guitarist, as far as I'm aware, writes every lyric, comes up with the themes, writes every guitar note, creates every composition, etc. And I was told this from a guy who has known Mikko Aspa for over 20 years.

CugnoBrasso
May 3rd 2019
2717 Comments


Considering the amount of nazi-related stuff he's into, do we really need him to explicitly admit it? I don't think there are any doubts at this point.

Azog
May 3rd 2019
1070 Comments


"this and new misthyrming coming out on the same day"

GOD DAMMIT YESSS!!!

Eons
May 3rd 2019
3770 Comments


EDIT: In summary: They are not NSBM. Find a real NSBM band's thread and complain there. I'm not sure what to tell people who just ignore what you say even though it's accurate and their bullshit isn't and yet they just believe the guy is a Neo-Nazi national socialist no matter what you say. It'd be nice to discuss the music and concepts. Disappointing, really. Anyways I'm excited and will be buying the album (Maybe that means I'm nazi now, oh man!)

CugnoBrasso
May 3rd 2019
2717 Comments


I'm not concerned with enjoying DsO's music as the lyrics don't contain the slightest reference to white supremacy or the holocaust, but I don't like the idea that my money might be financing Aspa's far right activities with his other openly antisemitic bands. The same applies to Mgla, I went to their concert yesterday and I only discovered their ties with the right wing after buying the ticket. They explicitly denied being nazi though (I hope it's true because the concert was fire).
I'll still listen to DsO's new record and I'll probably love it, I just won't buy it.

lecolumbus
May 3rd 2019
227 Comments


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalism

consider this, and the "furnace" in the title of the album
and Mikko's work in the past that's explicitly talked about putting Jews into ovens and "crushing Zionism"

your comparison with Lemmy is stupid as Lemmy never talked about shit like that as far as I know

DsO might not have written a racist word in their music up until this point (as far as I know), and they're probably not gonna talk that directly in their music now but it seems like they don't give a fuck now

they may not be as braindead as NSBM bands with swastikas on their cassette covers, and they've certainly got more musical ability but nonetheless. and that's not to say DsO is a NSBM band, they're a black metal band with at least one far-right fuckhead in it (whether you wanna argue on the Nazi term or whatever)

Demon of the Fall
May 3rd 2019
33994 Comments


'Synarchy isn’t anything too different but if you dug those other ones there’s really no reason you wouldn’t enjoy it as well.'

Not really true, they took out virtually all the slower eerie parts and went straight for your throat for almost the entire duration. I for one was a little underwhelmed when compared with much of their other stuff (especially 'Fas'). In fact I prefer the often maligned Si Monvmentvm to Synarchy despite it's tendency to meander unnecessarily at times, simply because the tension contained within their softer passages is so inciting.

Eons
May 3rd 2019
3770 Comments


It's an interesting idea, lecolumbus but this is much more likely and consistent with DsO's discography. ''Palingenesis is a concept of rebirth or re-creation, used in various contexts in philosophy, theology, politics, and biology. Its meaning stems from Greek palin, meaning again, and genesis, meaning birth.''

Notice it says ''Its meaning stems from Greek Palin, meaning again, and genesis meaning birth.''

Read this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenesis

The last album mostly dealt with Nimrod from the book of Genesis.

The tracklist for this album has a song called ''Imitatio Dei.'' if you read a simple wiki page you find: Imitation of God mitation of God (Latin: imitatio Dei) is the religious precept of Man finding salvation by attempting to realize his concept of supreme being. It is found in ancient Greek philosophy and several world religions. Notice the Greek themes here.

Even this video itself has quite a bit of imagery that is in line with this. Anyway at least you weren't screaming Nazi and attempted to look into things. You should read more about this, though. You have an interesting theory but I seriously doubt it's how you think it is. Again, it seems more in line with Christianity, human nature, slaves of MANKIND (no one race). Etc. It is nothing too new for DsO, they explored similar themes on Paracletus, Si, monumentum, etc. Destruction, meaninglessness, search for the ultimate self (on Synarchy Nimrod was trying to find his ultimate self) eclipsing God and becoming a God yourself.


Again, though, Mikko doesn't have control in the band. We'll see what happens but I'll be truly shocked if this album has anything to do with racism. If some of you would take some time to consider the band's concepts you may find that it isn't so superficial and shallow as Nazism.

JS19
May 3rd 2019
7777 Comments


I truly don't think DSO are a racist band - I think that's quite clear just listening to them. But I definitely an uncomfortable with Mikko being a POS person generally and won't be supporting the band (read just downloading their albums illegally or Spotify because that's basically the same thing as not supporting these days). I think that's a pretty sensible course of action if you don't want to support the dude

JayEnder
May 3rd 2019
20052 Comments


Thread turned into r/iamverysmart

JS19
May 3rd 2019
7777 Comments


Thinking people discussing a band and their politics is /iamverysmart probably says more about you than it does about them dude

hansoloshotfirst
May 3rd 2019
1580 Comments


and forever turns the wheel...

CugnoBrasso
May 3rd 2019
2717 Comments


Nobody here is accusing DsO of being a NSBM band, their lyrics never talked about it so far. Aspa has undeniable ties with NSBM though, and this is mildly unsettling to say the least.
The new song is amazing though. I was sort of waiting for the blast beat to kick in but in the end I'm glad they decided to take a different direction this time around. It has the same cacophonous chords and tense atmosphere but a different pacing, I'm curious to hear whether the rest of the record sounds similar to this.

Azog
May 3rd 2019
1070 Comments


"The same applies to Mgla, I went to their concert yesterday and I only discovered their ties with the right wing after buying the ticket. They explicitly denied being nazi though (I hope it's true because the concert was fire)."

Assuming they know themselves better than anyone else does, chances are they're right (about that).

JS19
May 3rd 2019
7777 Comments


For a pretty popular brand coming out as *Nazi* wouldn't be great for their image so they have a vested interest in yknow - not seeming fascist

Its not as black and white as - hey they said they aren't so what more can you do

luci
May 3rd 2019
12844 Comments


well they work with nazis and were on a label headed by a nazi so just because they don't claim the label doesn't meant they're off the hook

DungeonBoy
May 3rd 2019
9746 Comments


the music was fantastic, but to be honest I saw the video more as dark abstract imagery and not so much symbolism. Song has a Epiklesis II vibe going on with the pacing, but i'm very much looking forward to hearing the whole thing

Hawks
May 3rd 2019
88861 Comments


Why are we doing this in every bm thread now???

DungeonBoy
May 3rd 2019
9746 Comments


Oh for sure man, I definitely dig their lyrics a lot I think they are very thought out and interesting. I think they are essential to making DsO as great as they are beyond the chaotic dissonance.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


I love(d) DSO and Clandestine Blaze quite a bit, but it is undeniable that Mikko is pretty heavily involved in NSBM idealology. He has various side projects, signed bands to his label, and played festivals that all espouse very strong anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Here is a good article detailing just SOME of his Nazi bullshit: https://varisverkosto.com/2019/03/the-influencers-of-the-finnish-ns-music-scene-part-3-mikko-aspa-of-northern-heritage-clandestine-blaze-vapaudenristi-sarvilevyt/

Secondly and let's be honest -- Mikko is not that impressive of a vocalist and DSO are a good enough band where they could find someone else to perform with them and it not diminish the quality of their music. The fact that they continue to work with him and help provide a means of income for him just shows their apathy towards the matter and their complicity in what he does in his own time.

The fact that there are not overtly NSBM lyrics on their albums means absolutely nothing, it doesn't take much reading between the lines to see where they stand.



TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


And I'm not coming at anyone who listens to Mikko material and I admit I will listen to NSBM-aligned black metal sometimes despite being Jewish, but I will never monetarily contribute to their existence and will download their material instead.

So if you want to listen to him that's absolutely fine, but don't pretend to not see what he is.

DungeonBoy
May 3rd 2019
9746 Comments


sooo, do we burn our DsO/Mgla records or what?

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


lol if u are already bought them, why would you? just d/l their music from this point on instead.

zaruyache
May 3rd 2019
27445 Comments


Light them in effigy to the Slavic gods, of course.

hansoloshotfirst
May 3rd 2019
1580 Comments


j4f....From a DsO interview regarding Aspa's involvement:
"We chose to work with Mikko A. after we noticed how close we actually are. You know his usual rhetoric, and this is far from turning around religious patterns, but his smart down to earth approach has lead him to conclusions extremely similar to ours, even if he started from different observations and ended up with a different formulation of facts. He is one among very few who can take the most atrocious things very naturally, and he is one among very few who truly shares a fascination and appreciation for things of an utterly sadistic nature that I will not unveil here. It has to be said that in our quest answers or impulsions often come from unsuspected places or people, eventually finding a spiritual partner in him is but an example of this."
http://ezxhaton.kccricket.net/interview.html

ButteryBiscuitBass
May 3rd 2019
11458 Comments


AOTY confirmed

zakalwe
May 3rd 2019
38985 Comments


Shite

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


"I think it’s been confirmed many time their lyrics are written by their guitarist and whether all or some of the band members support someone who is racist or whatever you wanna call him is something I could care less about. The lyrics of DSO have never offended me; rather the opposite. Even if every member of the band was racist I could care less. If I like the music I’ll jam it. If I don’t I won’t. Could care less about people who point fingers and don’t examine themselves. And no that wasn’t a tool reference. Hahaha"

That's totally your prerogative, I just don't understand why you treat overlooking somebody being a Nazi like it's some sort of accomplishment lol. And once again - and i didn't think that this needed to be elaborated on because i wrote my previous statement in plain, clear english - this has nothing to do with the lyrics.

RustCohle
May 3rd 2019
423 Comments


wtf cares if their singer is a right-wing? Human race will be extinct in 100-150 years anyways. What counts is that the music slays, contender for AOTY. And fuck ANTIFA!!!

Deathconscious
May 3rd 2019
27367 Comments


@eons maybe hes technically not a Nazi, but dude, he made a song called Free of Jews. Then theres also Hammer of Aryan Terror, The Jews Are Our Misfortune, etc...how much more explicit could you get?

Anyways, im sure this will bend my dick in unnatural ways like they always do. Stoked.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


I didn't say anything regarding your opinion as to whether he was a nazi or not, what I said has nothing to do with Mikko in particular. It was this:

"Even if every member of the band was racist I could care less."

and this:

"Could care less about people who point fingers and don’t examine themselves."

I don't know about anyone else, but reads to me as if you're trying to elevate yourself above people who don't tolerate nazis and racists like you're some bastion of self-awareness, or as if there is any correlation between these two things at all. Maybe I'm wrong, so if I am, I apologize, but that's 100% how it reads.

I don't dislike you Captain dude, I just don't understand this train of thought/what you are trying to say here.

Why do you care less if a band is racist? And would you care more if they were coming after you?

Also, if you listen to racist bands that's fine. I do too. Not sure if that's where your self-examination comment came from. I'm not sure how you go about listening to them (purchase physical copies, streaming, etc...) all I'm saying is that I won't do anything that monetarily contributes to their projects or causes.

Nazzadan
May 3rd 2019
2372 Comments


Bottom line, if you're the kind of black metal consumer that draws the line at not finanically supporting NS bands or bands with NS involvement in their personal lives, you should probably add DsO to that list. If you aren't, then you do you. Band is hilarously overrated imo but that's unrelated.

robotmagician
May 3rd 2019
1328 Comments


damn did realize this about mikko, but googling him now it seems obvious. there is literally an article called “The influencers of the finnish NS scene” about him from march of this year and it’s uhhh... pretty bad https://varisverkosto.com/2019/03/the-influencers-of-the-finnish-ns-music-scene-part-3-mikko-aspa-of-northern-heritage-clandestine-blaze-vapaudenristi-sarvilevyt/

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


"not worth my time"

**continues to write a paragraph long post**

Oh and NOW you care about intolerance hahahaha okay dude. It's clear you lack any comprehension or reading skills because that is literally not what I said at all so we can end the "discussion" here.

DungeonBoy
May 3rd 2019
9746 Comments


*refreshes this thread every couple minutes*

ButteryBiscuitBass
May 3rd 2019
11458 Comments


Haha

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


friday lol thread

Nazzadan
May 3rd 2019
2372 Comments


What's the picture here?
"I think it’s been confirmed many time their lyrics are written by their guitarist and whether all or some of the band members support someone who is racist or whatever you wanna call him is something I could care less about. The lyrics of DSO have never offended me; rather the opposite. Even if every member of the band was racist I could care less. If I like the music I’ll jam it. If I don’t I won’t. Could care less about people who point fingers and don’t examine themselves. And no that wasn’t a tool reference. Hahaha"
"whether all or some of the band members support someone who is racist or whatever you wanna call him is something I could care less about."
"Even if every member of the band was racist I could care less"
"Could care less about people who point fingers and don’t examine themselves"

Like is there a weird ESL barrier here or what, you are directly saying 3 times in one post you don't care if the people in the band are pieces of shit you're going to jam it anyways. You drill the point in 3 times, and Spirit correctly states basically "hey man kinda weird that you super don't care about it and you're kinda bragging about it since you went out of your way to say so" and you melted down over the next few posts in weird incoherent ramblings.

Jam whatever the fuck you want, no one cares. Just don't plant your flag on the hill of "I SUPER DON'T CARE ABOUT THE THEMES OR PEOPLE IN THE BAND, ITS ALL RIFFS MAN" then get extremely defensive when people say that's dumb.

Nazzadan
May 3rd 2019
2372 Comments


"^^Hi Brandon’s ult, nice to meet you^^"

Okay it's definitely an ESL barrier.

ZippaThaRippa
May 3rd 2019
10671 Comments


did you literally just quote me like it somehow wasn’t directed at you, lol

Nazzadan
May 3rd 2019
2372 Comments


Did you really not get that I was quoting that post because it contains a really simple typo, and I wanted to quote it before you could correct it and make my point about you being ESL moot?

Nazzadan
May 3rd 2019
2372 Comments


Also my ultimate is ready. That's a little gamer humor for you from Blizzard's Overwatch.

Deathconscious
May 3rd 2019
27367 Comments


How does quoting someone indicate you think its for someone else?...

ZippaThaRippa
May 3rd 2019
10671 Comments


Hey Cap, what country are you from?
I wanna know what dumb accent I should be reading your broken english in

Nazzadan
May 3rd 2019
2372 Comments


I just wanted to point out that alt and ult are different words but it sounds like you have some growing up to do.

ZippaThaRippa
May 3rd 2019
10671 Comments


Answer me

Deathconscious
May 3rd 2019
27367 Comments


Lmao this thread went down the shitter, love it.

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


**"why can't we be friends" plays in the distance**

Deathconscious
May 3rd 2019
27367 Comments


Shut up, bitch.

zaruyache
May 3rd 2019
27445 Comments


maybe Craft were right and we should just nuke the whole planet

Hawks
May 3rd 2019
88861 Comments


Wow what happened to this thread???

Nazzadan
May 3rd 2019
2372 Comments


Bunch of hubbub that's what, pal.

JayEnder
May 3rd 2019
20052 Comments


...

So how about that song guys?

Deathconscious
May 3rd 2019
27367 Comments


You are a very bright young nam

Hawks
May 3rd 2019
88861 Comments


It’s DSO so yeah of course it slayz. m/

CugnoBrasso
May 3rd 2019
2717 Comments


I just wanted to remind you all that I posted the first NSBM comment, so if you're looking for the person to thank for this thread, look no further!

Madbutcher3
May 3rd 2019
3147 Comments


the song is good but yeh sad that the vocalist is a chode

Demon of the Fall
May 3rd 2019
33994 Comments


I thought these guys identities were unknown & that mystery was part of their shtick. If someone is a known bad-un then perhaps I was mistaken.

robotmagician
May 3rd 2019
1328 Comments


lmao cugno

also demon I think just the vocalist is known/presumed to be aspa

Deez
May 3rd 2019
10330 Comments


I see him called a peado many times also regarding something, Whats that about?

Deez
May 3rd 2019
10330 Comments


Ah ok a quick search seems to be about his Nicole12 project

TheSpirit
Emeritus
May 3rd 2019
30304 Comments


He allegedly does some sort of child porn distribution thing or has mentioned it in interviews. He has a pedophilia-themed power electronics project called Nicole 12 at the very least (which is disgusting but not the same thing as being a pedophile (i guess?)). I 've never seen the interviews in question so I don't know how much truth there is in this.

Deez
May 3rd 2019
10330 Comments


Im just listening to it now its pretty fucking good. No chance im downloading something called 'NICOLE 12' though. Moms will see me on the news!

DungeonBoy
May 3rd 2019
9746 Comments


....

"he is one among very few who truly shares a fascination and appreciation for things of an utterly sadistic nature that I will not unveil here"

it all makes sense now

CugnoBrasso
May 3rd 2019
2717 Comments


Holy shit, good job sputnik!
I'm starting to suspect Aspa is a drug dealer as well or some kind of contract killer, the lore is getting intense!

Deez
May 3rd 2019
10330 Comments


maybe Craft were right and we should just nuke the whole planet'

Dude they should nuke themselves after one of the worst liver performances ive ever seen

Deathconscious
May 3rd 2019
27367 Comments


"He allegedly does some sort of child porn distribution thing or has mentioned it in interviews. He has a pedophilia-themed power electronics project called Nicole 12 at the very least (which is disgusting but not the same thing as being a pedophile (i guess?)). I 've never seen the interviews in question so I don't know how much truth there is in this."

What in the fuck

lecolumbus
May 3rd 2019
227 Comments


"wtf cares if their singer is a right-wing"
not just regular right-wing, but far-right

it matters to me because I'm not straight or cis lol
like why is it hard to understand why somebody like me would be very uncomfortable about that

Firedust
May 3rd 2019
1176 Comments


Jamming these guys discog, band's gotta be top 3 bm ever.

TheNotrap
Staff Reviewer
May 3rd 2019
18959 Comments


Massive

Azog
May 3rd 2019
1070 Comments


So it's perfectly acceptable when people listen to Wagner, or wear Hugo Boss, or drive a Ford? We're okay with that? Right?

Yet we should boycot a small time underground black metal band, that would otherwise sell like hundreds of records?

Yeah, that will show them nazi bastards...

Tyler.
May 3rd 2019
19025 Comments


"So it's perfectly acceptable when people listen to Wagner, or wear Hugo Boss, or drive a Ford? We're okay with that? Right? "

unless theres something about the current ford CEO i dont know about henry ford is long dead mjy guy

Deathconscious
May 4th 2019
27367 Comments


that music video is sufficiently surreal and dystopian. song rulez too.

mindleviticus
May 4th 2019
10498 Comments


Damn NEVER listening to or buying ANY Wagner again lol

Source
May 4th 2019
19917 Comments


dis tread

tastepolice
May 4th 2019
422 Comments


"Mikko is not that impressive of a vocalist "
nah fuck off, say whatever you want about his stupid beliefs but mikko is a one of a kind vocalist, the very definition of irreplacable


Deathconscious
May 4th 2019
27367 Comments


Lol ive heard plenty of black metal vocalists just like him, so no.

Nazzadan
May 4th 2019
2372 Comments


The vocals have always been by far the worst part of DsO. Like he's fine but there's plenty better.

DarkParaclete666
May 4th 2019
2 Comments


This thread could be helpful for those interested in what the fascist implications may mean for this album. Enjoy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathspellOmega/comments/bk4n4k/the_furnaces_of_palingenesia_hopes_expectations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

SpiritCrusher2
May 4th 2019
6370 Comments


I love Mikko's vocals, they fit the music so well

hansoloshotfirst
May 4th 2019
1580 Comments


stoked. album will rule.

"So if you want to listen to him that's absolutely fine, but don't pretend to not see what he is."

true.

"Bottom line, if you're the kind of black metal consumer that draws the line at not finanically supporting NS bands or bands with NS involvement in their personal lives, you should probably add DsO to that list." [2]






Azog
May 4th 2019
1070 Comments


Here's another perspective:

"The urge...so strong
To do the devil's work.
The flock of Jesus Christ
I will rape your souls
Till you see the devil clear

Blackwinged

Evil wings bring torture from the skies
With a limb so huge,
To serve you christian sluts
Penetrate your pure cunts with might
Now you filthy cunts, do you see the moon?
Its glowing for the black wings return

Blackwinged

We'll burn your worthless bodies
And send the fire and stench
To heaven high, remind your worthless
God, that our victory is complete
Clean this earth of holy bitches
Desecrate mother mary

Blackwinged"

Darkthrone, Total Death (1996).

But then again, this song is not about jews. It's about christians.

So... alrighthy then?

DarkNoctus
May 4th 2019
12212 Comments


^i mean, i don't think it's the fact that we should give a free pass to lyrics that promote rape and any kind of discriminatory sentiment.

for the lyrics you've put forward the context is that they were just a bunch of goofy young adults who just wanted to be edgy.

it's music that try and promote troubling ideals, morals etc. rather than just obvious fantasies that i think are worth discussing because if you were to have asked those musicians even at the time if they thought that what they were singing was justified they'd have probably said 'no' (with perhaps the exception of varg but he's rather different).

tastepolice
May 4th 2019
422 Comments


^you know it's not the same so stop pretending it is
unless you're completely incapable of reading the current political climate
larping=/=actual political propaganda

JoylessBastard
May 4th 2019
484 Comments


" I love(d) DSO and Clandestine Blaze quite a bit, but it is undeniable that Mikko is pretty heavily involved in NSBM idealology. He has various side projects, signed bands to his label, and played festivals that all espouse very strong anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Here is a good article detailing just SOME of his Nazi bullshit: https://varisverkosto.com/2019/03/the-influencers-of-the-finnish-ns-music-scene-part-3-mikko-aspa-of-northern-heritage-clandestine-blaze-vapaudenristi-sarvilevyt/

Secondly and let's be honest -- Mikko is not that impressive of a vocalist and DSO are a good enough band where they could find someone else to perform with them and it not diminish the quality of their music. The fact that they continue to work with him and help provide a means of income for him just shows their apathy towards the matter and their complicity in what he does in his own time.

The fact that there are not overtly NSBM lyrics on their albums means absolutely nothing, it doesn't take much reading between the lines to see where they stand. "


Most level headed comment in the thread. Good on you Spirit.

Azog
May 4th 2019
1070 Comments


"for the lyrics you've put forward the context is that they were just a bunch of goofy young adults who just wanted to be edgy."

There you go.

I'd like to think of extreme metal as the art of playing with fire, without getting your fingers burned. Like, we may have a good time shouting along the foulest and nastiest shit, before we go home and give our children a good night hug. Next day, back to the office. My point being, people should not be judged entirely by what they say. It's mostly about what they actually do. Or at least, it should be.

Truth be told, I used to think of Mikko as just another poor misguided schmuck, who for some reason that I'm not familiair with, persistently confuses zionism with capitalism and lashes out accordingly. Boy, was I wrong. This being said, would we be fine with Mikko leaving the metal scene altogether? I'm sure a guy with his credentials will have no trouble whatsoever, finding his way in the exciting world of burgers and French fries. Or should we boycot that as well?



JS19
May 4th 2019
7777 Comments


What I'm getting from this is that they are all trash people who make good music. Each person to do with that information what they will but not pretend they're not awful people with crappy views

RustCohle
May 4th 2019
423 Comments


I could not care less about today's righteous attitude, Deathspell Omega rule musical wise and that is what counts, it is not that they go out on a killing spree and bomb people, like islamic fanatics do.

luci
May 4th 2019
12844 Comments


they only share the ideology of white nationalists that shoot up synagogues and mosques. no big deal!

RustCohle
May 4th 2019
423 Comments


they used to say...thoughts are free, as long as you do not commit a crime you are innocent, so stop being so self-righteous here.

Madbutcher3
May 4th 2019
3147 Comments


yeh personally as a jewish person i do think that it is quite whack. anti-semitic stuff from black metal is hardly shocking at this point but i think it is sensible to condemn it when it pops up.

@ rust - you are allowed to think what you want, the point is that we are not forced to exclude their beliefs from our judgement of whether we should support the artist.

RustCohle
May 4th 2019
423 Comments


of course you do not have to share their beliefs, I don't either, I am not a fascist nor ANTIFA. But i find their lyrics extremely well written and philosophical and I love their nihilistic misanthropic vibe and the music absolutely slays, so as long as they do not commit actual crimes I could not care less. Nowadays people are way too political correct and sensitive in my opinion.

Madbutcher3
May 4th 2019
3147 Comments


cool thanks for the convo sargon

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
May 4th 2019
11599 Comments


wish people would stop being dumb and quit trying to work around the fact that a band they listen to is linked to neo nazis. you can listen to them all you want, I listen to quite a few though I wont pay them. just cut the lies.

Hawks
May 4th 2019
88861 Comments


Damn this thread blowz.

hansoloshotfirst
May 4th 2019
1580 Comments


The itsy bitsy spider climbed up the waterspout.
Down came the rain
and washed the spider out.
Out came the sun
and dried up all the rain
and the itsy bitsy spider climbed up the spout again

hansoloshotfirst
May 4th 2019
1580 Comments


Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again

emmny
May 4th 2019
112 Comments


Thank fucking tits we have new deathspell. Kinda midtempo like paracletus, wheres da blast beatzzzzzzzz

RustCohle
May 4th 2019
423 Comments


Just preordered the new album!

JS19
May 4th 2019
7777 Comments


That will show those politically correct snowflakes bro

Demon of the Fall
May 4th 2019
33994 Comments


I’m gonna illegally download the absolute shit out of this album & pray to sweet baby Jesus whilst doing so.

R6Rider
May 5th 2019
5282 Comments


Really dug this.

Riffs and all.

mindleviticus
May 5th 2019
10498 Comments


I thought the song was okay. I think that the whole issue with the vocalist is pretty questionable. I still wanna jam the fuck out of this album though.

Heppasodge
May 5th 2019
549 Comments


hooooooly jesus

EyesWideShut
May 5th 2019
5913 Comments


Yass

EyesWideShut
May 5th 2019
5913 Comments


Leave Mikko alone and enjoy de M/

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
May 5th 2019
10751 Comments


200+ comments wow, Deathspell Omega are the Beatles of black metal.

Source
May 5th 2019
19917 Comments


Don't read the thread or your brain will turn to scrambled egg

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
May 5th 2019
10751 Comments


^^I won't haha

trilo
May 5th 2019
6323 Comments


good thread

Song owns

JS19
May 5th 2019
7777 Comments


Yeah I don't see what's wrong with the thread. Some good points some less good points its pretty standard for a contraversial topic.

What is hilarious is the people having tantrums that people want to say more than 'song rips' and keep posting 'terrible thread' or similar because they can't handle a complicated issue

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
May 5th 2019
10751 Comments


I think Source meant that reading 200+ comments at once is (indeed) tiresome, that's all.

JS19
May 5th 2019
7777 Comments


To be honest most of the comments are just 3 different opinions written slightly differently. Guilty of that

Eons
May 5th 2019
3770 Comments


My main problem was I really don't like when someone gets offended by someone's art so they believe it should be shut down or that person shouldn't have free expression. It's fair for them to not like it or get angry at the art but for them to be like, basically, ''No, this is something I don't like so it shouldn't even have the right to exist in the world.'' that's a bit much and I really hate that PC shit and I think it is anti-black metal. Black Metal should piss people off and provoke them. That's literally the tenets it was built on. You may not like that, but silencing people is really fucked up imo.

And people ARE being silenced, bands are being threatened and told that they can't play live anymore. A guy's Death Metal website got shut down by leftist hackers who silenced him ultimately. It was the oldest Death Metal website on the web. It may not seem like much but where the hell is all this shit going? Just catering to one view? That's lame.

LOVEANDACCEPTANCE
May 5th 2019
897 Comments


yes because the other view is fucking nazis, racists, and bigots, idiot

piss people off in correct ways dumbass

Eons
May 5th 2019
3770 Comments


It's their right to have whatever view they want and express that view. Who the fuck are you the cops? Are they harming others? No, they aren't. You just disagree with their views and therefore, think it's right to silence them. By the way, you have a lot in common with Hitler in that sense.

LOVEANDACCEPTANCE
May 5th 2019
897 Comments


"Are they harming others? No, they aren't."

let me introduce you to a little thing called the holocaust that happened

making sure ignorant, hate filled people dont have a platform isnt hitler like you fucking coward, it's making sure more hitlers dont happen. no one has the right to express bullshit furnace fantasies, and if you think so, you deserve to get knocked the fuck out just like the rest of your idiot kind

mindleviticus
May 5th 2019
10498 Comments


Lol that'll teach those fascists

RustCohle
May 5th 2019
423 Comments


worst kind of people in the world are the fucking ANTIFA, gladly they get what they deserve most of the time here in my country. HAIL SATAN! and I make as much furnace fantasies as I like to!

Azog
May 5th 2019
1070 Comments


Life is all about compromise, and there are many shades of grey. I used to work for a bank, so I might as well listen to this, won't make much of a difference. I'm going to hell.

Deathconscious
May 5th 2019
27367 Comments


"and if you think so, you deserve to get knocked the fuck out just like the rest of your idiot kind"

Lol

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
May 5th 2019
11599 Comments


imagine condemning antifa over actual nazis lmaooooooooooo

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
May 5th 2019
11599 Comments


"Black Metal should piss people off and provoke them. That's literally the tenets it was built on."

see this is so fucking funny because it's completely untrue. there are so many idiots out there that sincerely think you have to be an evil, nihilistic, hateful fuck to play black metal and that because a lot of the innovators were just that, they get a pass. fuck them and fuck you, people are people. they get held to the same standards, if you're a hateful asshole then that's all you are.

RustCohle
May 5th 2019
423 Comments


hate is a part of life as much as love is and freedom of thought is the highest value in art. In a free world EVERYTHING is allowed in art. As long as you do not commit actual crimes it is all fine. ANTIFA is committing numerous crimes each day around the world, did Deathspell Omega commit any crime you know of? you seem to be a political correct self-righteous person and I hate such beings. See I am allowed to hate you as much as I want as long as I do not physically harm you and commit a crime. my thoughts are mine and mine alone!

zaruyache
May 5th 2019
27445 Comments


Saying antifa over and over won't make them anymore than a ragtag bunch of random non-affiliates who punch people they don't like. They're not a big mean boogeyman like people keep insisting they are, which is pretty funny.

Madbutcher3
May 5th 2019
3147 Comments


in my opinion the jedi are evil

Tyler.
May 5th 2019
19025 Comments


Wait

Gameofmetal
Emeritus
May 5th 2019
11599 Comments


"As long as you do not commit actual crimes it is all fine."

lol imagine being more triggered by people punching nazis than people advocating for genocide.

RustCohle
May 5th 2019
423 Comments


any proof that Deathspell Omega is advocating genocide?
You are such a prick, throwing accusations around...

zaruyache
May 5th 2019
27445 Comments


imagine being so triggered you 1.5/5 a beyonce live album you've never even heard

RustCohle
May 5th 2019
423 Comments


imagine being so triggered you 1.5/5 a beyonce live album you've never even heard

already needed to listen 3 times to this shit because of my gf.

Pon
Emeritus
May 6th 2019
6001 Comments


*sigh*

nowhere is safe

Deathconscious
May 6th 2019
27367 Comments


It has political relevance, so yeah no shit its going to be brought up.

EyesWideShut
May 6th 2019
5913 Comments


And to think this site contributed to hundreds of album sales to Arghoslent and GBK..

Fascists

emester
May 6th 2019
8271 Comments


aspa is a toilet of a human being

makes good music tho

R4zor3dge
May 6th 2019
1450 Comments


Grand Belial's Key

zaruyache
May 6th 2019
27445 Comments


"makes good music tho"


ehhhhhh i wouldn't go that far

R4zor3dge
May 6th 2019
1450 Comments


Is CB bad? Not that I've had an interest in listening to them

JS19
May 6th 2019
7777 Comments


I mean this isn't exactly nuanced political discussion is it - some people made some decent points earlier and now it's a bunch of pissed off people saying *no u* over and over again.

hansoloshotfirst
May 6th 2019
1580 Comments


In the year 2525, if man is still alive...
oh come on folks these kind of discussion will never change and never amount to anything. Haven't heard a single new argument in any discussion about bm in like 10 years or so .

MebalZahari
May 6th 2019
302 Comments


Excellent band

JS19
May 6th 2019
7777 Comments


'Haven't heard a single new argument in any discussion about bm in like 10 years or so'

To me that reads like people need to keep talking about it because clearly bm still has a nazi problem - not that people should just talk about something else


Tyler.
May 6th 2019
19025 Comments


i am sorry darius

Deathconscious
May 6th 2019
27367 Comments


We're gonna need that apology from you as well, darius.

CugnoBrasso
May 6th 2019
2717 Comments


I'm the one who started it all, you snorters of scrota should thank me.

JS19
May 6th 2019
7777 Comments


Where can I buy this nazi away

Veldin
May 6th 2019
5275 Comments


Target

hansoloshotfirst
May 23rd 2019
1580 Comments


album is streaming on the youtube channel of the label:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KzXgA7dxXI



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