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Thorns
Thorns vs Emperor (split w/ Emperor)


4.0
excellent

Review

by lostforwords USER (37 Reviews)
June 24th, 2014 | 10 replies


Release Date: 1998 | Tracklist


Before internet changed once and for all the face of information, the fame of bands such as Thorns lied only in misty speculation and rumors. It was a common belief that while Bathory and Celtic Frost provided the “know what” to the first wave of black metal bands, it was Thorns who provided the “know how”, through a small set of obscure demos, filled with underdeveloped, yet amazingly innovative and terrifying ideas. They quickly became the well hidden secret of the scene, and by 1998, they had reached a legendary status, yet very few people knew actual facts about their music.

“Thorns vs Emperor” gave them the chance to release some of their intimidating magic to the world. Emperor’s role here was trivial actually, their main purpose was to give their good friend Snorre Ruch, the brains behind Thorns, the publicity he needed to make a fresh start and finally go for an official recording. Let’s not forget that Emperor were at the time the absolute black metal superstars, commercially speaking. All they offer is a cover to Thorns Aerie Descends, pretty close to the original, and two keyboard driven instrumentals.

Thorns on the other hand wouldn’t miss that chance. Their participation on the EP starts with Aerie Descends, which is an instant classic for the genre. Thorns introduce not only their corrosive sound and asphyxiating atmospheres, but also their trademark spiral riffing, which was, from their demo days already, the most inspirational thing in black metal since Under the Sign of the Black Mark.

Melas Khole and Discipline of Earth, are pure madness. Thorns do not care about any of the fixations reigning in the black metal scene, neither in these two songs nor in Aerie Descends. They use speed as much as they use slowness, they even use speed to create slowness (that’s the main goal of the spiral riffing), they use strength as much as they use terror and they are bitter as much as they are magnificent (Satyr, who took over the vocals, is the perfect tool to that). Thorns in fact cover their early relatively naked sonically selves, adding a dark industrial scent to their sound, in order to perfect the dark aesthetics of their music.

The final track, which is Thorns’ cover to Emperor’s Cosmic Keys to My Creations and Times, this one totally black but not metal, as an idea sums up pretty much everything Thorns offered to black metal; The transformation of the obsessive, “romantic” approach to the devotion about everything dark (which until then appeared in black metal as occultism, Satanism and paganism) to a more urban, evolved state of bleakness, set the grounds for the renovation of black metal, (through bands like DHG, Satyricon, even the Mayhem we get in Grand Declaration of War and of course Thorns themselves) and ultimately contributed to its very survival.



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Voivod
Staff Reviewer
June 24th 2014


10967 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Excellent and to-the-point review for an album I haven't jammed for ages, unfortunately.



The Thorns tapes were also released in the Stigma Diabolicum (the band's initial name) compilation, published by the Greek label Kyrck Productions.



Did you listen to the last Mayhem album lostforwords? Besides Mayhem, it has Thorns written all over it as well.

Alastor
June 25th 2014


2152 Comments


Ærie Descent main riff is so black metal

Wizard
June 25th 2014


20564 Comments


Love this review, sounds like something I would have written hahaha.

Should get this, yes?

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
June 25th 2014


10967 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Definitely.

YUJOS
June 25th 2014


1019 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Great review man!

lostforwords
June 25th 2014


451 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

@voivod @yujos Thanks guys

@ Wizard, if anything, these three songs are something of an amazing experience, now I'm not sure if they would sound dated to you, it was clear evolution back in 1998

Voivod
Staff Reviewer
June 25th 2014


10967 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Snorre needs to release a new album soon, rumour has it that it's ready and that it's being optimised for a decade now...

YUJOS
June 27th 2014


1019 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The sad thing is that they are a only handful of bands that (can) play this so called brand of intelligent black metal and unfortunatelly we have to wait for a new Mayhem album every 3 plus years as Voivod said and to nearly two decades for Snorre to release something new.

parksungjoon
September 26th 2021


47231 Comments


Some say the Emperor half is bad, and the Thorns half is good; well, here´s the way I see it: EVERY SONG ON THIS SPLIT SUCKS.
It´s clear to me that Ihsahn went nuts over the years, but I didn´t know his insanity began so long ago.
As for the Thorns cuts, they´re just horrible guitar riffs over weak, plastic bases.

Horrible, disgraceful experiment.-

P.S: for the true fans of Emperor: stay away from this album.

BreadOfBitterness
October 21st 2021


87 Comments


^ Absolutely worthless contribution.



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