The last time the site received a major upgrade was in January, when we updated our server architecture. Although there have been a few bumps along the way, overall the change has resulted in increased speed and stability for Sputnikmusic.
This summer, I plan on fixing several persistent bugs and will implement 1-2 ‘major’ changes to the site. I have a provisional list of modifications I’m considering (enhanced genre system, improved news, revised message boards, enhancements to lists, revision of user profiles, design changes), but I wanted to give everyone the chance to provide their feedback on what they think the most valuable addition to the site would be before I start the process. Looking forward to reading your comments below!
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possibly a search function to find users, i know as of now to find the ppl i enjoy discussing stuff with and checking out their tastes I have to remember either A) the last thread i spoke to them or B) if they posted on my profile - iunno just hard to find ppl
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agreed. seriously, i'd give anything to have that feature
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ahh yes true spec. well then just a page for both staff and user reviews that is all sorted out like I mentioned
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I guess you could consider making the reviewing process (selecting the artist, genre, and album) a bit more easy to use. I find it really clunky getting through.
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lol true that's foolproof but is that really what I have to resort to?
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Also, I would absolutely love a list system revision, especially in relation to locating lists (e.g. a list search function).
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I'd like to see an "upcoming releases" section added to each genre. Trying to find upcoming releases in Music News can be difficult. Something similar to what metacritic currently has which can be found here: http://www.metacritic.com/browse/albums/release-date/coming-soon/date?view=detailed
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and bands with non alphanumeric characters
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Instead of something new, how about we get the review editing fixed already? I'm don't mean to bitch about it, but honestly it's been months and I haven't felt any motivation to do anything else here while it's broken.
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There was something else I was wishing this site had the other day. I'll post again if I remember.
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yes please god yes.
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also yeah an ignore function is retarded
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No blog tags please
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personally i hate this. i mean, how do you really differentiate between a 7.7 and a 7.8?
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fuck you
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not a big difference between 1 tenth, but something that is a borderline 3.5 and a 3.9 is a big difference in my ratings.
It would be cool if you could still select the ratings (good, great, excellent) and then modify in between the ranking if desired.
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(I doubt it will happen)
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-Or maybe that's a bad idea... I dont know.
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From what I reckon, here's a list of things that must be fixed.
1. Edit My Reviews/Albums function.
2. The error message that pops after an album edit.
3. In the current link for "SITE FORUM" (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=95) the domain "musicianforums" should be replaced by "sputnikmusic"
4. "Doom" should be included as a genre tag.
At this point, I don't have any further suggestions.
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Really? Awesome.
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Really? Awesome. [2]
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http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611405
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that didn't take long
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I agree with Aso.
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What I mean:
Ages ago, I added the band "Sneak Preview" to the database, following standard procedure.
Now if someone puts the name "Sneak Preview" in the site's search engine, the latter redirects to the following url.
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Sneak-Preview/28890/
No it isn't a Sneak Preview album, it's a Dismember album called "Death Metal".
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-This would practically eliminate trolling.
It doesnt necessarily have to be this, but something similar. This is just my idea, though.
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I mean its just a random idea. But most people "troll neg" because its anonymous, but if it shows that you were the one who "neg'd"- some people would think twice before troll negging.
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Obviously, man. The difference is that reviewer would now be able to know 1) they were troll negged and 2) who they were troll negged by. They could then choose to ignore it as it's simply a troll or if they care, report it. Reported user gets banned.
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A good idea would to put some kind of filter that would inhibit the simultaneous appearance of two (or more) reviews for the same album in the front page, resulting in increased diversity.
I will admit this isn't a frequent phenomenon, but still I think it should be taken into consideration.
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The people who only troll neg aren't going to care if they're "exposed", and the people who would neg the review because it might jut be god-awful are still going to do so
"What about adopting the "Like" and "Dislike" concept of Youtube, where a user can "Like" /"Dislike" the review and appears next to their name like "PaperbackWriter LIKED/DISLIKED this review"
This is just a slightly more pleasant of way of negging a review; eliminating the connotations of the word negative, it's still not liking something. Why dress it up if it accomplishes the same result?
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I was just saying that it would be a good feature to know who pos'd/neg'd a review because a lot of the users were talking about "troll negging". As I said, it doesnt have to necessarily be what I thought up- its just a random idea.
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The amount of butthurt at knowing who negged you isn't worth thinking about. Granted there are still some mature people on this site, but for the most part it's simply going to be a case of being negged and then deciding to do the same in return. There's a good reason why this function is an anonymous one
Besides, people need to get over being negged. Granted there's a fair amount of troll negging going on, but for the most part this is all pretty obvious and easily remedied. But at the same time you need to be aware that you can't please everyone with your work, and while negging might be an extreme reaction, use it as a way to perhaps better focus your efforts for the next piece
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You have a point, and my idea would probably cause more bad than good. I said it as a response to the users who were talking about troll negs and ways to prevent them.
personally, I think its fine the way the website has it established already, but maybe someone more creative than me can come up with a better solution.
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personally, I think its fine the way the website has it established already, but maybe someone more creative than me can come up with a better solution."
As long as people are able to hide behind computer screens there's always going to be people looking to be a nuisance simply for the fun of it. The joys of being a part of a "community"
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Already been suggested before. What would be stopping anyone from just going "lolololol. Good review." *presses the neg button*?
The only troll negs people should be concerned about are when you log on and find you've gone from 95% to 82% or something, etc, etc, etc + all discussion involving Dev and Paperback
lol @ Doom genre tag. Failed at every attempt. I will laugh when it happens. If it happens.
Decimation of the ratings scale is a terrible idea, and has been suggested before. It would also mean the big J would have to go back to using hideous numbers on the front page. But just imagine visualising 3.7 stars. Blah.
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""ip bans"
yes please god yes."
Used to exist. Doesn't work effectively. Best deterrence? Ignorance.
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Is this one of your updates or (this is literally how the site looked for me; didn't edit this photo or whatever)
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i'm not arguing this, i'm sure you know more about this than i do, but just out of curiosity why isn't this effective? i mean, if somebody is trolling to the point where it is negatively effecting the site and they are permabanned, wouldn't this mean problem solved?
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The date of albums issued on the current year, i.e. 2012, should be listed as (month)/(day)/(year).
The date of 2012 albums is listed simply as "2012", while 2011 albums have the aforementioned date notation.
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"Wow does it really have to link to the post rather than the image. Great"
http://p.twimg.com/AvaHuVtCIAId7bV.jpg
And btw Ive had similar weird displays like that on my piPhone. Clearing the cache seems to help. Bit bizarre finding album art icons replaced with totally unrelated images from other websites in their place.
"why isn't this effective?"
Because it's remarkably simple circumvent by either changing your IP address, using a different network, proxy connections, or going onto another device with a different IP altogether. And then you have the trolling that happens while these losers are on school machines, where the whole notion of fixed IP goes right out the window.
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darthmann i get what you're saying but i don't understand why mods don't ban alts from users that are supposed to be banned if they know for sure they are the same user. i mean, if i got banned and made an alt called "auber" or "dreamingofaubergine" or something like that, it seems like that account should get banned to, otherwise it defeats the purpose of the banning in the first place, even if there are disadvantages to using an alt. the point is the user that was banned is still causing the same trouble with his alt so nothing has really been remedied with the ban.
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(Side eyeing you scott k.)"
why do you make it a necessity to reference me in most of your posts?
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I would also add - www.bnrmetal.com - which is one of the major listing sites for metal bands and albums.
The site is already hosting reviews from blabbermouth.net and lordsofmetal, don't see why it shouldn't include sputnikmusic reviews as well.
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It would be cool to be able to pull up an in depth percentage chart of every genre but I don't know if that would even be possible
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I also agree that swear words shouldn't need to be censored anywhere. seems unneeded. anyone with half a brain can fill in the blanks anyways.
also, thumbs down on ignore function, sounds lame
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It's called the logout button
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Oh and hi Irving ;^)
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if you're using internet explorer switch to mozilla and that will fix it, at least it did for me
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also maybe a cap on the amount of reviews/lists that a user can post in a 24 hour period to help cut down on spam and retards
can't think of any reason to justify the pos/neg systems continuing existence
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and yeah more genres. in the header thing at the top of the site as well
make pngs accepted too. jpgs blur and look untidy. And change the font or something so infinite symbols and accented letters don't end up like é. Idk exactly what the problem is there, you know what I mean
also ban asotamaki
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genre enhancement
I know this is probably impossible but can we get to filter out some users because a lot of users here are just offensive teenagers trying to be funny and have forced me to just want to come to the site, get some new music and leave when I would really really love to interact with people here. That would surely be an enhancement.
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So update/tidy them up if you come across any because they're not going to be going away anytime soon
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oh look it actually worked there
"So update/tidy them up if you come across any because they're not going to be going away anytime soon"
they're fucking everywhere and usually they're just copied from wikipedia
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gotta search key words omni!
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I'm not saying go and look for them, but if you come across them while doing a rating spree or whatever, why not spend one minute opening up a tab with the artist's official site and copying the bio in? Improving this site doesn't begin and end with MX, it's up to the people who use this site as well. Shit, you've seen how many album and band edits I've made
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also the ability to reset all your ratings would be nice.
thanks for consulting the plebs
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well it's a small detail but I thought I'd mention it. It's not like I have a running list of imrpovements I want made to sputnikmusic I think it works pretty well for the most part. I'm happy with it at least.
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2. A chart for 100 best reviewers - base it on the user's approval rating with a threshold of 5 reviews or something. Anything you can do to incentivize more professional writing.
3. definitely agree with adding deeper sub-genres
4. Enhance the new releases section so you can search for album releases by week
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and i am personally against adding a bunch more genre tags. a handful would be good, especially more common ones under "other" like ambient, and some electronic ones (dubstep), but at a certain point it becomes ridiculous to insist on the most correct microgenre on a review site. that's what last fm is for.
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This has probably been said before, but if there is a way to fix the bug of editing our reviews would be really nice. Cheers!
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Ridiculous, when enough people have voted it is extremely accurate as long as you understand the community. If someone wants to start listening to a new group it points them in the right direction, why make them go to another site to figure out what album to start with when the data is already compiled.
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you could also add a feature where whenever a review thread is bumped for the first time in at least a week, a post by riffoclock will be automatically added saying "shit album." this would save him a lot of hassle i'm sure.
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My apologies Gyro.
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Yes please ;^)
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Not to mention the endless debates about not only what is what, but what genres get included and what ones don't
I'm all for SOME added genre inclusion, but the bare minimum
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Also this
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2. some kind of layout/interface change...I'm not saying it needs to be overhauled, but it's been the same for a long time now and certain things don't receive attention or aren't a high enough priority (news, for example)
3. A FEW added subgenres
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2. more in flames on the staff blog
3. people should stop ragging on chris brown, the kid is a phenomenal talent
4. allow us to neg downer reviews
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"Honestly, I think that the pos/neg system should be eliminated. "
too far the other way
it's an ok system but it has to be taken with a pinch of salt. As long as you do that it's fine as it is
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2. some kind of layout/interface change...I'm not saying it needs to be overhauled, but it's been the same for a long time now and certain things don't receive attention or aren't a high enough priority (news, for example)
3. A FEW added subgenres"
I second all of Sowings ideas
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-Retarded genre debates = instant perma-bans for all included.
-Hard Jams should become a genre.
-Readily supply Deviant with coffee to stop him from turning into his Mr. Hyde persona.
-Stupid banning reasons cause the Mod to lose their position.
-Rating Jane Doe below a 2 becomes possible.
-Fire Jom and Chan.
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When lists are edited, album art often disappears that was just working properly.
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Why Jom?
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I'm not too much of a fan of the pos/neg system, but it really isn't the end of the world if it stays; there're arguments for both keeping and removing it.
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Wanna debate that
"-Retarded genre debates = instant perma-bans for all included."
oh
"-Stupid banning reasons cause the Mod to lose their position."
lol
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Don't be silly :p
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Same goes with updated for some reason too
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kind of agree on that one
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i know you can just use google but i think would be the best way if people want to change the search function.
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you know what, i actually kind of like this idea. maybe give the lists a vote feature that doesn't really affect the list when it is still on the front page, but have a separate section for lists where the highest rated are shown at the top for easy reference to newcomers and even people just browsing looking for new music. kind of how RYM does it but based on a vote system rather than randomly listing all relevant ones.
that sounds like a rather large project though
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Ever heard of a guy called SeaAnemone
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Stoner
Southern Rock
The site need these genres seriously.
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cashnugz knows what i'm talkin about
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also I don't particularly mind the current rating scale but a 10-point scale with halves would be pretty cool
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agreed on this too. it's a minor thing, not a big deal if it stays the same. but this would offer an improvement I think.
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I'm not retarded, but this comment is retared and probably you are retarded.
Southern Rock is somehow different from the typical Blues as it blends more styles.
Also, there are some forms of the Blues which are not from the South, such as the Chicago Blues.
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""also I don't particularly mind the current rating scale but a 10-point scale with halves would be pretty cool""
we basically have a ten point scale
I prefer 1-5 anyway
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Yeah me too.
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yeah 1-5 with halves. not the same as 1-10 with halves
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what's wrong with what we have now?
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I had a funny thought a few months ago: an anti-musical taste chart - a pie chart of things you've rated 2 or lower. Just an idea.
'I would like the ability to quote a comment which also includes the name of the user who posted it. Kind of like on forums.'
This so I wouldn't have to add the quotations and comment on it like I did now.
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like I said in my orig post if you read it, not a huge deal if it doesn't change. just a minor suggestion if anyone else feels the same.
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also for the pie charts, I think 10 genres might be too many, but the pie chart isn't accurate as it is now... personally, I think there should be 8 or so genres but also a slice for everything else combined
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also bring back the option to acces 'sub-genre charts' (black/death metal etc.)
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why don't you all use your built-in ignore function? it's called, get this, "ignoring someone". you don't HAVE to respond to every bullshit comment you see you know.
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-not being able to edit reviews
-losing artwork in lists if they have an apostrophe in the title when you edit
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like I'm all for making the site shinier and including more pretentious genre tags, but I'd rather the annoying stuff get fixed first, permanently
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comment of the year
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User search is cool
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Uh yes it does, completely
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Uh yes it does, completely
Though not all Ambient music is created with electronic instruments
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I agree it should be a tag.
Saying it doesn't fall under "electronica" is fucking hilarious, though.
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This is true, but at the same time not all electronic music is composed exclusively of electronic components
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don't know who initially said that, but i agree.
Not all electronic music is ambient. I mean, is I See Stars ambient?
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don't know who initially said that, but i agree.
Not all electronic music is ambient. I mean, is I See Stars ambient?
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For example:
(username1) Contributor (2005-2007)
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Uh yes it does, completely"
Sometimes ambient music can only involve piano; in fact what I'm listening to right now is compiled only of minimalistic piano and the sound of a storm near where the guy's playing. I don't know if I could call that electronic. There's a huge overlap sure, but it's separate from, say, Garage in that it isn't exclusively electronic.
But eh... arbitrary boundaries.
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this is sort of a project, but I'd like to have a way to view a special average rating for an album including only the ratings of users that are "qualified" in some way. maybe this is a high enough objectivity, or enough ratings, or maybe a favorite users list that you build yourself. just an idea.
maybe instead of getting rid of the pos/neg system, you only have pos's. so like how you can't dislike things on facebook
ambient for genre status
ratings by genre sounds sick
fix charts please
I'd like more specific ratings too but I know that isn't happening
news seems fine as is, not sure what needs fixing there
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Example: Opeth is tagged as Metal, Death Metal, Progressive - but which album contains which style?
The solution would be to tag e.g. Heritage as Progressive, Psychedelic, Deliverance as Death Metal, Progressive, Damnation as Progressive,etc. The artist itself should be able to have more than 3 genre tags anyway.
As for the amount of subgenres etc. that should be added, I have no real idea. Probably some kind of voting process could help.
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The solution would be to tag e.g. Heritage as Progressive, Psychedelic, Deliverance as Death Metal, Progressive, Damnation as Progressive,etc. The artist itself should be able to have more than 3 genre tags anyway.[/quote]
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Other terrible ideas previously mentioned:
- ignore function
- a 10-point scale with halves
- "i'd like to see user's ratings disappear if they've been inactive for a long time"
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Expanding the similar artist section for any band to like 10 bands instead of five.
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A friends list sounds awesome, and PLEASE fix the forum avatar thing
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no that's dumb
"that reminds me of a good point let's remove the objectivity rating from the site"
I agree, the objectivity thing is dumb. i mean i'm proud of my decent 81% but still, away with it
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secondly, even if we did buy into that, what if people only rated albums that they like above average? what if you're good at picking albums you're going to listen to next and they are all above 3.5/4 and you mostly only rate stuff you enjoy? that shouldn't indicate low objectivity. someone could randomly rate 20 albums each for rating 1.0 to 5.0 and their objectivity would be 100% or something. it's existence defeats it's purpose. but as it is, it's not really hurting anything so if it's not done away with it's not an issue really.
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In the case where a user's rating for a record is the first one, then the default normalized value will be equal to 100.
The average of all normalized user ratings would yield a much more objective (sic) objectivity index.
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For the sake of completion, if there are more ratings in the future, the value of the normalized user rating will be continuously adjusted according to the record's rating average.
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And sputnik averages are not "objective" at all, well there isn't an objective score for an album.
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I don't think there is such thing as "sputnik like tastes".
And in the majority of rating averages on which I can have a solid say whether they are objective or not, they are indeed.
For example, I have a 63% objectivity score , because in general I tend to care about records that I will most probably like, giving ratings that lie between 3 and 5.
If my ratings were processed by the aforementioned scheme, the objectivity index would rise up, because, in most record cases, the rating average of the albums I rated would be close to my ratings.
In general, I admit that no system is perfect, though.
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Eh, and how can you say what's an objective rating?
I'm not saying that your idea is bad, it's just flawed. As is almost any other choice in the other hand. I just don't think that it'd be helpful at all, it just would make the average scores more generic since some people would start to rate stuff close to the average rather than rating based on their own opinion.
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Putting it this way, I will admit I can't really say for sure, but when I like an album and see that another N (where N=200 or N=30, for example) people like it as well, then I can assume with good certainty that the album is indeed good.
That's my sole indication and in general (not in all cases though), album rating averages in Sputnik tend to speak the truth about an album
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After all there isn't such a thing as "objective" rating, so that still could be the closest one.
That objectivity method would suck for the guys with unusual tastes though, since their scores would be different. That wouldn't mean that the ones with unsual taste would be less objective, they are just looking for different things in music or give higher regard to other things in music than majority of people in sputnik. They can still rate their stuff objectively, by their standards. There isn't things that make albums better than other, only opinions. That's the beauty of music and the reason why "objective ratings" in music all always, well, subjective.
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*are always
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I was wrong earlier about using the word "certainty", what I really meant to say is that when a lot of people agree about the good or bad merit of one album, then there's a high chance (and absolute certainty) that this album is correspondingly bad or good.
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*(and not absolute certainty)
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Haha. No.
"but a better way to see the tracklist in albums that dont have a review yet would be nice."
Shh. Don't tell BLUEOmni.
06.20.12
- Be able to edit reviews
- More genre tags
- Updated layout/interface, perhaps?
Just some ideas :)
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hey how're you doing
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Genres per album. It isn't a big deal, but some bands change their style during their career.
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I really think we should improve the news article section; there are times when I (or others) submit completely plausible articles and they are rejected by the mods, but then there are times when horrible articles are published, sometimes repeats of each other. so I would really appreciate if we could improve this in any way.
06.24.12
if only I could view the highest rated canadian dreath metal albums ever
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Seventh Swamphony and Pelagial gonna be lit, you heard it here first
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