Rolling Girl: Gay songs

timebetweentrains 09.26.16	at the gay bar
CaliggyJack 09.26.16	Anything Elton John
50iL 09.26.16	John Darr's single.
SandwichBubble 09.26.16	Team Dresch - Fagetarian and Dyke Le Tigre - Hot Topic Peter Grudzien - The Good Ol' U.S.A. Heavens To Betsy – Complicated Jordaan Mason & The Horse Museum - Bird's Nest
emester 09.26.16	Okay fuck no, want to know why I'm so mad about this? My bike accident when I was a child literally left me with a multitude of brain conditions, including an almost psychotic obsession with wanting to become a woman. I dealt with it throughout most of my teen / early adult life until I finally managed to get a curb on it four years ago. It took everything I had, nothing worked, not therapy, medication, anything, I had to learn to deal with it on my own. These entitled fucks got butthurt because some people challenged their opinion in regards to being trans? They have no right to represent what I went through struggling with trans issues, when they can't even handle a few opinions. They're melodramatic, spoiled fucking children. When faced with opposition and public attention you don't back down, you keep striving for what you believe in. This isn't about fucking mental health, this is about people who had a wonderful opportunity taking the easy way out because they can't handle the fucking pressure. Fuck this band and everything they claimed to fucking stand for.
StrikeOfTheBeast 09.26.16	Judas Priest - Raw Deal
CaliggyJack 09.26.16	Btw guys, The reason why I ended up giving this a 4 as 'my final rating goes back to my previous comment about this band cheating/hacking/whatever the fuck shady bullshit they pulled. It woulda been a 5 if they weren't hacking into their guitars and enabling Godmode and Infinite/Unlimited Riffs. Gotta deduct .5 point for each cheat.
wtferrothorn 09.26.16	YOUNG MAN THERE'S NO NEED TO FEEL DOWN
TVC15 09.26.16	John Darr
Tyler. 09.26.16	be aggressive
p4p 09.26.16	fireworks by katty perry beautiful by christina aguilera most tegan and sara songs born this way by lady gaga and believe by cher
Futures 09.26.16	attila- outlawed
BallsDeep 09.26.16	a bit of context emester?
NordicMindset 09.26.16	Piazza, New York Catcher by Belle & Sebastian
emester 09.26.16	dont wanna go pointing fingers at anyone specifically, search around a little :]
Anthracks 09.26.16	Perfume Genius - All Waters and No Good The second a pretty heartbreaking song about, presumably, a guy whose boyfriend is murdered... the first longing for acceptance. Most of his other songs have LGBT themes, too
Kompys2000 09.26.16	Any Judas Priest song from the '80s.
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	Frankie Goes to Hollywood – Relax
ZippaThaRippa 09.26.16	Gay! - A Gay Musical
ZippaThaRippa 09.26.16	Dangers - A Cure For Aids
Snake. 09.26.16	the hotelier - life in drag more of a trans/non-binary song but still
luci 09.26.16	Onsind - Heterosexuality is a Construct
Rolling Girl 09.26.16	How do I always forget about Elton John? And Relax is a gay song? Thanks a lot everyone. Edit: Just looked up the lyrics to Relax, oh my.
Cygnatti 09.26.16	the smiths - discog
Typhoon24 09.26.16	pretty sure that men without hats - safety dance is about MMF threesomes which are pretty gay
TVC15 09.26.16	Gay for Johnny Depp
Asdfp277 09.26.16	i have plenty hold up gotta restart my pc
timebetweentrains 09.26.16	scissor sisters is a bit gay
RadicalEd 09.26.16	"pretty sure that men without hats - safety dance is about MMF threesomes" Safety Dance is actually about you know... a dance.
Storm In A Teacup 09.26.16	haven't thought about franz Ferdinand in so long. damn that's two whole worlds ago
BallsDeep 09.26.16	which sputnikers here are openly homosexual (or identify as anything other than cisgender) ? not aiming to be derisive I'm just strangely curious
Storm In A Teacup 09.26.16	there's an official list...I know it was bumped in the last week, I don't think it's been updated for a long time but people will still answer the thread with what they are
Asdfp277 09.26.16	BallsDeep: ars did a list letting people self-identify edit: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?listid=159074
BallsDeep 09.26.16	Interesting. I wonder how many of those who identified as pansexual etc are serious though
DinosaurJones 09.26.16	YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND, BABY, RIGHT ROUND LIKE A RECORD, BABY, RIGHT ROUND ROUND ROUND Actually, I'm not sure if that's a legitimately gay song, I may have just been influenced by meatspin.
Sinternet 09.26.16	'Interesting. I wonder how many of those who identified as pansexual etc are serious though' about the same amount of people are serious about any other identity, it's perfectly normal
FullOfSounds 09.26.16	love u sin
Sinternet 09.26.16	join the club
MercuryToHell 09.26.16	Pansexuality has always been a bit of an odd concept to me, having openly identified as bisexual for 15 years. To me it seems to be bisexuality with the caveat of openly acknowledging trans and genderqueer, which I always thought was covered by bisexuality anyway, and the necessity for a new term seems to label bisexuality as less inclusive, which in turn heightens the anti-bi stigma. But then that's just me. As for the list, Jay Brannan's 'Housewife' is sickeningly cute.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	yeah [2] tbh
BallsDeep 09.26.16	Sin i'm not trying to start WWIII here but its technically abnormal, but there's nothing wrong with that, normal is overrated anyway
ZippaThaRippa 09.26.16	Now you've done it
MrSirLordGentleman 09.26.16	Sting - Englishman in New York
Asdfp277 09.26.16	you definitely are lmao abnormal in the sense that it's not common? ya. on any other sense, whatever
ZippaThaRippa 09.26.16	You have shattered the fragile peace. Cometh the wars.
Sinternet 09.26.16	yeah balls when i say normal i mean as in it's an accepted and recognised identity these days, not that it isn't a minority and yeah mercury i do agree with that, although i don't think making bi seem less inclusive was the motive just an unwanted side effect possibly
Asdfp277 09.26.16	[2] ya
MercuryToHell 09.26.16	Oh no, I don't think there was any malicious intent but I also don't think bisexuality needs any more negative publicity. I just feel that people can be extremely over-zealous in their quest to find terminology that describes them to the letter that they ignore the whole LGBTQ concepts of unity and acceptance.
BallsDeep 09.26.16	I always thought bisexuality referred to ones sexual orientation whereas the other terms refer to ones sexual self-identity. Could be wrong though, im no expert in the field
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	@Mercury: well the bi in bisexual refers to 2, so Pansexuality tries to be the all inclusive one. I think it's a fair dichotomy, though I do see your point.
Storm In A Teacup 09.26.16	I'm so confused about these definitions. So I think I get bi and pan, although pan does seem to make bi inclusive, which I'm sure people didn't originally think it was at all. But what if you're a guy and you're attracted to women and transgender women? Or girl attracted to men and transgender men? What is that called and is there two different names for that?
Asdfp277 09.26.16	gotta get the IUPAC to do some nomenclature work up this bitch
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	@Storm: Homosexual - attracted to the same sex Heterosexual - attracted to the opposite sex (male and female being opposites of course) Bisexual - attracted to 2 sexes (usually male and female) Pansexual - attracted to all sexes including non-binary ones like agender/bigender etc. Asexual - attracted to no one (Although this can get more complicated if you count demisexual)
BallsDeep 09.26.16	i feel like a pleb because i didnt know the difference between transvestite, transgender and transexual until the other day
Sevengill 09.26.16	how have "Not Gonna Get Us" and "All the Things She Said" not come up yet are you guys for real
Tunaboy45 09.26.16	ymca
Asdfp277 09.26.16	one of the chicks from tatu is actually homophobic but only against gay men
Tunaboy45 09.26.16	"All the Things She Said" haven't heard that in years
Storm In A Teacup 09.26.16	@ars: Gotcha. This is really interesting. Demisexual? oh my, that is really sweet and tender to only be attracted based off emotional connections. awww
BallsDeep 09.26.16	i always thought asexual meant the ability to reproduce with ones self. think I heard in a a davit attenborough doco when i was younger and never really questioned how a human could possibly do that lmao
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	Seven, correct me if I'm wrong, but: transvestite - crossdresser who isn't actually trans at all (or maybe is trans under some weird circumstances like a transman who's biological sex is female cross dressing as a woman...) transgender - feeling that you're not the sex you were assigned at birth, and choosing to identify as the sex you actually feel like transexual - a kind of outdated term that refers to people who actually got a sex change operation transman - a transgender man who is biologically female transwoman - a transgender woman is biologically male transperson - a good neutral term for someone who is transgender
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	@Balls: I know people personally who identify as asexual, so in the terms of human sexuality it just means you're not attracted to people (except in the came of emotional connection like demisexuals)
Asdfp277 09.26.16	ur correct, except transvestite isn't as used as much as drag queen / drag king bruh
Sevengill 09.26.16	"one of the chicks from tatu is actually homophobic but only against gay men" Yulia's on record as thinking lesbians are more aesthetically pleasing than gay men, or some dumb excuse. it's basically BS and I tore down her poster in my room when I read about it.
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	True Asdfp
Sevengill 09.26.16	ya Ars that's pretty much correct in my experience.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	it was pretty out of the blue too lol
Rolling Girl 09.26.16	In reality, I'd more accurately fit under Pansexual, but I identify as bi because A) More people know what Bisexual is and the gist is understood B) I like the flag more. @Storm / Ars the definition of identities can also vary depending on who you ask. With the inclusion of Demi/gray/omni sexual (and everything with a "romantic" root instead of "sexual"). I try not to think about the specifics too much but rather accept and address them in a manner that they're comfortable with.
BallsDeep 09.26.16	im borderline asexual, very low sex drive compared to almost every other guy ive come across, or very high standards maybe haha. Im no stranger to the female anatomy but I'd be just as happy having a drink and listening to music as I would going down on a girl. weird?
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	"more aesthetically pleasing" Wow what a dumb cunt Storm, there will be an exam on this vocabulary, so be sure to study hard lol
Sevengill 09.26.16	yeah she took a nosedive after like, 2008. you can tell she got plastic surgery too. just eugh. Storm I'll be your study buddy
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	The asexual spectrum and offshoots is where I got lost honestly
AsleepInTheBack 09.26.16	can someone explain non-binary gender to me? seems like a relatively new talking point that I dont know much about
Asdfp277 09.26.16	i don't know how to feel about the demi/pan labels, as i feel like sexual orientations ain't meant to be that specific tbh. they're supposed to give you a very general overview, and not dwell on specific circumstances but idk, they can be useful too as long as people use them right, like using pan to specify u don't mind trans people (whereas with bi people "u don't know", even though the label itself doesn't exclude trans people by itself)
Sevengill 09.26.16	I've got friends who get so caught up in labels that it's just infuriating. it's like inventing a term for yourself entitles you to thumb your nose at anyone who isn't 100% up to date on the latest trendy identities.
AsleepInTheBack 09.26.16	"im borderline asexual, very low sex drive compared to almost every other guy ive come across, or very high standards maybe haha. Im no stranger to the female anatomy but I'd be just as happy having a drink and listening to music as I would going down on a girl. weird?" that interesting man, though I wouldn't say its asexual, just you like what you like but have a low sex drive. I can relate though
romulanrancor 09.26.16	sylvester - mighty real
Sevengill 09.26.16	http://genderoftheday.tumblr.com/post/91079705946/todays-gender-of-the-day-is-bananas-hovering-in
Asdfp277 09.26.16	i've actually seen plenty bi people denounce the pan label, as they (as bi people) have always liked trans people and/or non-binary, but idk
AsleepInTheBack 09.26.16	"I've got friends who get so caught up in labels that it's just infuriating." Yeah this bugs me too, it almost seems like some view it as a fashion statement or new craze and nothing more
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	@Alseep: some people believe that they're neither male nor female such as: bigender - where you identify as both a man AND a woman agender - where you identify as neither androgyny - some mix between man and woman that varies Two-spirit - a Native American belief that some have the spirit of both men and women
Asdfp277 09.26.16	lmao genderoftheday is great, not like mocking trans people or "trenders" or w/e, but the suggestions are usually p. witty and/or aesthetically funny Sylvester rules >:]
Asdfp277 09.26.16	http://genderoftheday.tumblr.com/post/127894502927/todays-genders-of-the-day-are-women-and-women http://genderoftheday.tumblr.com/post/127887335631/todays-gender-of-the-day-is-gender-neutral-milk
Sevengill 09.26.16	perfect.
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	lol
Rolling Girl 09.26.16	@Alseep non-binary means someone doesn't fully identify as a male or female. I know some people use the term "genderqueer". @Asdfp I think that since being lgbtq+ is less stigmatized than it has been it makes sense that people are bringing attention to identities that don't exactly fit under umbrella terms.
BallsDeep 09.26.16	yeah just like feminism and veganism and it really detracts from the authenticity of the movements/groups themselves
Sevengill 09.26.16	I identify as gluten-free
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	I'm just glad I'm my sexuality/gender identity is simple Gay (cisgender) man
Rolling Girl 09.26.16	"I've got friends who get so caught up in labels that it's just infuriating." That sucks, as long as you can define your label that's fine with me. I don't understand why people are so concerned with the labels of others. "i've actually seen plenty bi people denounce the pan label, as they (as bi people) have always liked trans people and/or non-binary" Bleh.
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	"I've got friends who get so caught up in labels that it's just infuriating." I guess you have a point, but I feel like I don't have the right to tell someone that their identity is false or even to think that it is, there's a thin line between thinking a label goes too far and discrimination...
BallsDeep 09.26.16	genderfluid genderqueer bi-curious transvestite with asexual tendencies over here and if you refer to me as anything other I will become irate and call you a close minded cisgender bigot!!
Snake. 09.26.16	"yeah just like feminism and veganism and it really detracts from the authenticity of the movements/groups themselves" are you saying that bringing attention to uncommon terminology is a bad thing?
Asdfp277 09.26.16	found a few genders for sputnikmusic http://genderoftheday.tumblr.com/post/127410904273/todays-gender-of-the-day-is-female-edge-and-male http://genderoftheday.tumblr.com/post/126757470450/todays-gender-of-the-day-is-underfunded http://genderoftheday.tumblr.com/post/127115173850/todays-gender-of-the-day-is-mysterious
Sevengill 09.26.16	no, he's saying that parading around like a bad parody of the movement you're part of makes everyone else look bad
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	Every comment Seven makes holds more weight than the rest of us because she's actually trans, just want to point that out. Unless someone else here is also trans of course
supremejelly 09.26.16	"I guess you have a point, but I feel like I don't have the right to tell someone that their identity is false or even to think that it is, there's a thin line between thinking a label goes too far and discrimination..." I don't see how you got that from his statement at all.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	it's not their identity that's "false" or whatever, people are arguing that the labels themselves are unnecessary, as some are way too specific to be useful
Sevengill 09.26.16	I appreciate that, Ars. But there are plenty of good points going around here. Like the one Asdfp just made.
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	Fair enough Seven Also yeah Asdfp, you're right. Maybe there should be an official LGBT dictionary that lists all of the official terms, so you can be all like "that term's not official!"
Sevengill 09.26.16	... no. we have enough to argue about already xD
BallsDeep 09.26.16	@snake nah not at all. I'm saying that people who affiliate themselves with these movements for insincere reasons (i.e simply to appear open minded, to garner attention or because they're some social pariah who seeks acceptance and belonging with any group) dilute the legitimacy of these groups and sort of facilitate all the cynicism that the general public holds towards them. Kind of a long winded way of putting it but you get the idea.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	time to fight
Sevengill 09.26.16	Long-winded but well stated.
AsleepInTheBack 09.26.16	Yeah I get you Balls
MercuryToHell 09.26.16	When people say there's too many labels, I very much doubt it's to invalidate the experience of those that identify under those specifics. However, it is nigh-on impossible to keep track of every single one, which is a minefield considering the very strict lists of dos and don'ts that seem to come with each one. But I really do feel a lot of people in the 'alternative sexuality spectrum' do themselves no favours by demanding respect and recognition for (if you'll forgive my bluntness) something that makes zero difference whatsoever unless we're fucking. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	@Seven: I mean they could always have updated versions... I guess the problem is that even gays and lesbians haven't been truly accepted until recently (which is debatably based on blood donation laws and non-universal adoption laws) Speaking of which, you know what I find weird? Both gay and lesbian refer to homosexual, but have different terms that even extend to the community title. I know a lot of people want to change it from the "LGBT Community" to the "Queer Community" so that it's all inclusive in nature without having to add a ton of letters. What do you guys think?
MercuryToHell 09.26.16	I was at a NUS LGBT conference around the time the addition of Q was being debated (showing my age a little bit) - and while I acknowledge the need for everyone to feel included, maybe the acronym system doesn't work amazingly well when there's about 5 different valid terms for each letter of the alphabet.
Sevengill 09.26.16	idk I kind of enjoy ratting off LGBTQQIP2SAA every time I need to refer to people of non-standard sexuality and identity. said no one ever
AsleepInTheBack 09.26.16	"I know a lot of people want to change it from the "LGBT Community" to the "Queer Community" so that it's all inclusive in nature without having to add a ton of letters." Its a good idea in principle, though where I live the term 'Queer' is still used as a derogatory term, so not sure its appropriate. Alternatively it could be a case of claiming the word as the LGBT-etc. community's own, so could be a good thing
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	Queer works as a good all inclusive since it accounts for everything that isn't straight or cis
MercuryToHell 09.26.16	'idk I kind of enjoy ratting off LGBTQQIP2SAA every time I need to refer to people of non-standard sexuality and identity. said no one ever' [2]
Asdfp277 09.26.16	idk i like writing lgbt idk
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	Also are intersex people even part of our community? I feel like I get different answers every time I ask this
Sevengill 09.26.16	the word "community" makes me think of a walled-in fortress where LGBT people gather for safety. the ultimate goal is to tear down that wall so there doesn't need to be a community -- it can just be everyone, no qualifiers needed.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	of course, because we haven't decided what should constitute a reason to include someone to the "lgbt community" i'd say yes sure, why not. they probably encounter some problems due to their condition and/or need to find more people they can share experiences with. now, u gotta realise that the lgbt community is separated by factions too, like, i'm gay so i'm lgbt+ but i'm not part of the lesbian community in particular, y'know?
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	"now, u gotta realise that the lgbt community is separated by factions too, like, i'm gay so i'm lgbt+ but i'm not part of the lesbian community in particular, y'know?" Wait? You're not a lesbian? lol
Asdfp277 09.26.16	sometimes i'm not
Sevengill 09.26.16	intersex people are rare so they're guaranteed a spot via affirmative action
BallsDeep 09.26.16	hmm Queer has humorous connotations as far as I can tell so I think that will be counterproductive considering they're looking to be taken more serious and legitimately.
Sinternet 09.26.16	btw can someone in the know tell me if there is really such a divide between gay men and lesbians as sometimes there is made out to be?
AmericanFlagAsh 09.26.16	The Magnetic Fields - When My Boy Walks Down the Street Perfume Genius - Queen Broken Social Scene - I'm Still Your Fag Frank Ocean - Bad Religion
Rolling Girl 09.26.16	I personally like the idea of using Queer as the umbrella term, but yeah, I understand why people would disagree with me. Ooh, and thank you, Flag.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	Sinternet: maybe it's about the fact that feminism accepted lesbianism like, 20 years before they accepted gay men. It might also have to do with us having different cultures, etc, cuz people expect us to get along and do everything together cuz we're both gay, and when we don't it looks like we hate each other idk. But as far as I know, there isn't really any divide whatsoever. We just chill >:]
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	I mean I get along with lesbians pretty well Sometimes better than with other gay men...
AmericanFlagAsh 09.26.16	I'm in a LGBT kickball league and the gays and lesbians get along great Edit: Even some straight allies!
BallsDeep 09.26.16	What I found incredibly pathetic was back when I had my retail job working in a boutique video store (which naturally attracted a more quirky, esoteric audience) and homosexual couples would purposely act sensual in front of me (nonstop kissing, touching etc) , to prove some convoluted point that they're allowed to be homosexual in the face of my strict heteronormative beliefs (that they seem to assume I and everyone who isn't overtly LGBT holds). Id just have to shake my head, sure as shit not doing themselves and others in their community any favors by behaving like that.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	i can't believe there still hasn't been any fight yet
Asdfp277 09.26.16	maybe they were being affectionate just cuz. besides, showing that you're lgbt in public challenges the image that we're rare
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	I'll fight you right now Asdfp Fisticuffs! No but seriously this thread has been civil and that's great
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	showing that you're lgbt in public challenges the image that we're rare [2]
Asdfp277 09.26.16	see the good side: the faster we become "normal" in the public eye, the less you'll see people like that! >:]
DinosaurJones 09.26.16	As a cishet male (not white though), a large amount of my female friends are lesbians. My best friend is a lesbian. Idk, lol. (Cue the "I CAN TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, I HAVE A LESBIAN FRIEND")
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	I don't like this new term cishet... I keep reading it as sachet D:
Asdfp277 09.26.16	i love cishet specifically because of that
BallsDeep 09.26.16	but paradoxically by acting that way it's almost accentuating the divide isnt it? idk im probably overthinking this all, its 3 am go to fucking bed BallsDeep.
AmericanFlagAsh 09.26.16	Umm it was in a boutique video store...
BeyondCosby 09.26.16	"Tilting Against Windmills" - Protest the Hero
Asdfp277 09.26.16	right now, there /is/ a difference between lgbt people and straight people, but only a cultural one. think about it: if it was a straight couple doing that, you wouldn't have thought anything weird about it (other than them being cheesy and cringy) if it's accentuating something, it's accentuating how our culture treats people differently because of who they love
Rolling Girl 09.26.16	"No but seriously this thread has been civil and that's great" [2]
Sinternet 09.26.16	'Sinternet: maybe it's about the fact that feminism accepted lesbianism like, 20 years before they accepted gay men. It might also have to do with us having different cultures, etc, cuz people expect us to get along and do everything together cuz we're both gay, and when we don't it looks like we hate each other idk.' ahh that seems legit. i have a fair few lgbt friends and that so i tag along to pride every year and do bake sales and stuff and have never seen any division but i think there's this stereotype that they don't like each other much
AmericanFlagAsh 09.26.16	Until people stop asking me "if I have a girlfriend" or the like, then yeah I'm going to make it known I'm gay I mean, I won't have sex in front of you, but I will hold hands with my bf or kiss him. Like straight people do.
Asdfp277 09.26.16	i've never seen gay men and lesbians /not / get along, now that i think about it. huh, none of us have lol
Sinternet 09.26.16	also about the kissing in public thing it's pretty strange because my city is known for it's huge lgbt culture and yet i can instantly remember a case about a year ago where were two lesbian partners just had a quick kiss in a supermarket and then some woman reported them for indecency and they got kicked out the store. Like that's just one instance i can think of there are plenty of incidents like this.
AmericanFlagAsh 09.26.16	There are a lot of incidents like that, yeah. It's sad.
BallsDeep 09.26.16	yeah fair point asdfp and everyone for that matter, and sinternet its a sad fact that people like that woman exist in this world. I think religion is certainly a culprit here but that's another kettle of fish probably not worth diverging into
AsleepInTheBack 09.26.16	yeah that could jeopardise the wonderful civility of thread
Asdfp277 09.26.16	society absorbs social norms from popular cultures, then inculcate those rules onto all people, making those rules a separate entity from the culture that originated them. religion had a huge part in inculcating homophobia onto society, but now homophobia is a separate entity, able to persist even within secular groups. idk where i'm going with that, but yeah religion just happened to be the ones who instigated it, but now it's its own issue tbh
Asdfp277 09.26.16	i can't believe there still hasn't been any fight yet [x2]
AsleepInTheBack 09.26.16	@Asdfp227 couldn't agree more
Asdfp277 09.26.16	it makes social issues specially insidious
BallsDeep 09.26.16	@asdfp well said also thats Probably (definitely) because certain users are absent lol
Sevengill 09.26.16	should I go poke ala and malachite?
ArsMoriendi 09.26.16	"should I go poke ala and malachite?" I bet Snide would ruin this thread in literally 1 comment lol, also ALA hasn't been on Sputnik for like a week now I believe... at least I haven't seen a new comment of his in a week
Archelirion 09.26.16	Most of Bronski Beat's discography is heavily influenced by LGBT experiences And it's awesome :3
Sinternet 09.26.16	ahh yeah gotta get some 80s shit in there need some Soft Cell
Asdfp277 11.13.18	sweet
veninblazer 11.13.18	Brojob :^)
Asdfp277 11.13.18	love those
ArsMoriendi 11.13.18	Why bump this I don't want to read my comments from two years ago. This was back when I wasn't bitter
Asdfp277 11.13.18	gotta face the truth
Rolling Girl 11.13.18	God I missed this thread. Such a simpler time. Omg I completely forgot about Dalton's accident tangent. I still don't know whether I love it or hate it.
Orb 11.13.18	Whole New Way by the Scissor Sisters is a pretty bangin' tune.
Sowing 11.13.18	check Rad Horror - Gay
alamo 11.13.18	cupcakKe - lgbt
Rolling Girl 11.13.18	I've always felt the vocalist was a hit or miss but yeah, that's one of my favorite they've put out. @Sowing: Gay is a great track. Never bothered listening to the rest of their debut though. Would you recommend it to someone who's not super into grunge? @Alamo: I love cupcakke. She's a joy to listen to.
Sowing 11.13.18	It's more indie-rock than grunge tbh, so you might enjoy their other songs. Band in general is pretty outspoken in favor of gay rights, so you might find more songs with the kind of message you're looking for.
ArsMoriendi 11.13.18	Baths - Out Ween - The Rainbow (made by straight guys though...)
Sinternet 11.13.18	grant macdonald - ram ranch
Snake. 11.13.18	hop along - how simple
Trifolium 11.13.18	Everything by Sam Sparro, but for the "I said sexy girl, are you delirious? I can't leave right now, these tunes are serious" line, I'll pick Cut Me Loose.
Asdfp277 11.13.18	chilean here coming thru: http://youtu.be/GqNTdNCU2y8
Asdfp277 11.13.18	check that link please, it's a music video
rodrigo90 11.13.18	Many pet shop boys songs, and that's the thing that prevents me to love them and even go to their concerts. It must be a prejudice.
Brostep 11.13.18	re queer Chilean music Alex Anwandter >>>>> tho
Nomos2 11.13.18	browses comments I ain't touching this one with a ten-foot pole
Asdfp277 11.13.18	wrong opinion, javiera mena >>>>>> life
Asdfp277 11.13.18	nomos2: homophobe smh
Asdfp277 11.13.18	p.d. of course i was gonna mention anwandter but javiera mena takes priority http://youtu.be/GqNTdNCU2y8
alamo 11.14.18	arca alaska thunderfuck pabllo vittar
JayEnder 11.14.18	Sufjan Stevens - The Predatory Wasp
Asdfp277 11.14.18	BUMP ON ALASKA THUNDERFUCK 5000 FROM THE PLANET GLAMTRON
Rolling Girl 11.14.18	Thanks so much everyone! I'll update / maybe make a new list when I don't have presentations to worry about. @Asdfp Have you heard (Me Llamo) Sebastian? Pretty sure he's Chilean to. AND YOUR MAKEUP IS TERRIBLE
Asdfp277 11.14.18	forgot about him too, i know them all lol
Asdfp277 11.14.18	ARE YOU JUNE CLEAVER OR A LABRADOR RETRIEVER ?
Rolling Girl 11.14.18	Here is some more, sorry if I missed any, I'll try to keep this up to date. HE CROSSED ME LIKE THE RIVER STYX BUT THE SEX WAS GOOD 'CAUSE I LIKE SMALL DICKS
Demon of the Fall 11.14.18	I was really enjoying this thread & how pleasant/amicable the conversations were... then I realised it's from 2 years ago.
Rolling Girl 11.14.18	Gotta keep the positivity rolling then.
Demon of the Fall 11.14.18	Definitely, I'm just worried someone will come along & ruin all the good work... one thing I noticed is that this part of Storm's comment was never answered, unless I'm being really dense here. I understand all the other terminology, although admittedly this thread helped me brush up a little on a couple of mistakes I was making.... 'But what if you're a guy and you're attracted to women and transgender women? Or girl attracted to men and transgender men? What is that called and is there two different names for that?'
JayEnder 11.14.18	I’m not on the LGBT spectrum or transgender or whatever, but Life In Drag by The Hotelier is a dope song. Not sure if that counts but yeah it’s good shit.
DarkSideOfLucca 11.14.18	Judas Priest is all you need
Rolling Girl 11.14.18	On the bright side I haven't seen any major homo/transphobia on this site since that PWR BTTM review got nuked. Not that I've been looking though. @ Demon: My best answer to that question would be straight. Like a straight man would not be attracted to every woman in existence and vice versa. And a trans woman is still a woman. I've also met some people who identify as heteroflexible, so that could apply as well. The thing with identities is that they are largely up to personal interpretation, so really that would be up to the person in question. Idk if that helps. @Lucca: as much as I love Halford metal is always something I've been very picky with. Still need to check out Firepower though.
Demon of the Fall 11.14.18	@dfevil: Wouldn't it be different dependant on the sexual organs of said trans person whether that made someone attracted to them 'straight' or not? Like, if a transgender person went through the 'full transition' or not? That's probably the wrong terminology, but of course you do have people who don't identify as either male or female & also people that transitioned between the two 'born' genders. I'm struggling to find the right descriptors here if that wasn't already obvious, haha. I don't necessarily agree with labelling people as having a rigid sexuality anyway, just a thought.
Rolling Girl 11.14.18	@ Demon Nah, you're actually doing fine. But not necessarily: Hypothetically if you pass by a pretty girl on the street, do you find her pretty because you're thinking of her genitals or her general appearance? And in some cultures sexuality is more centered around "who fucks" vs "who is fucked" rather than attraction. Like if two men sex, the man who is fucked is considered gay, but not the one who did the fucking. If that makes sense.
Demon of the Fall 11.14.18	Oh I get that first part totally, of course you wouldn't know, but what if you did? I'm presuming this is known, otherwise the 'initial attraction is straight' & then presumably a straight person wouldn't actually want to get romantically involved with that person if they knew... if that makes sense. Yes I've heard that last bit before which strikes me as a slightly odd way of interpreting sexuality because the 'fucker' is still having sex with a man, so what gives? Sounds gay to me, haha. Odd.
Rolling Girl 11.14.18	Really this is where it all gets into semantics again. If a straight man is attracted to a woman (Cis or trans), that woman is still a woman. Not being attracted to this woman would not make the man not straight. But really a man can be attracted to a pre-operation trans woman and still be considered straight. At least that's how I see it. I know that was how it was perceived in ancient Greece and Rome. They weren't concerned with attraction as much as power dynamics. Whoever was top was considered superior.
Demon of the Fall 11.14.18	Fair enough, it’s simple for me at least, if I have that initial attraction to this hypothetical woman in the street there would be no grey area, in fact it might be a nice surprise. Yes if I wasn’t already obvious enough my initial enquires were of a somewhat personal nature.
StrikeOfTheBeast 11.14.18	Anything Judas Priest related technically belongs here too, not in a bad way of course.
Rolling Girl 11.14.18	No judgement here Demon. I hope this was at least somewhat helpful.
Rolling Girl 11.15.18	Updated a bit again. I'll be sure to look through and make sure I didn't miss anything.
ArsMoriendi 11.15.18	@defevil: did you check the song by Baths that I mentioned?
Rolling Girl 11.15.18	Shit I did not. I'll check that now! Thanks Ars. I'm also getting really into Ween so I'll check that too.
Rolling Girl 11.15.18	Ahh that Baths song was so adorable! I loved it! Thanks Ars!
ArsMoriendi 11.15.18	Yay!
neekafat 11.15.18	That recent Perfume Genius album was so good yeah
luci 11.15.18	serpentwithfeet - flickering deena abdelwahed - ena essbab patrick cowley - nightcrawler fatima al qadiri - shaneera arca - desafio burial - come down to us
Rolling Girl 11.16.18	Thank you Luci, forgot to add Arca earlier. @Neek Perfume Genius has yet to disappoint me tbh.
ArsMoriendi 05.27.19	"I don't understand why so much queer media is pushing so much Troye Sivan but not Perfume Genius." "No offense to Sivan but PG offers such a more unique and dynamic sound in modern pop music and they deserve so much more attention." The 2nd half answers the first half. PG isn't pushed as much because he's a unique and dynamic artist, so he has integrity and can't be as easily bought.
ArsMoriendi 06.05.20	Checking to see what's been listed.