DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | Cool Friday he? |
dedex
04.24.20 | imma spend my day with 1 and 3 im hypppped |
dedex
04.24.20 | "If I 4 it it means I'm disappointed." [2] hard, but on my 2nd listen I'd 4.5 it |
garas
04.24.20 | Finally a triple D list, hehe.
On the first listen on the new Ulcerate: it is not better than Shrines... |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | Shit dede, have you done 2 already? Its awesome ahah |
dedex
04.24.20 | started early 'cause I also need to give Elder at least 3 listens hahaha |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | I was talking about Black Curse, Dedex.
Hi Garas friend, I was never huge on Shrines, but maybe because of not enough listens. |
dedex
04.24.20 | ah shit sorry, didn't give it a listen yet nope |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | m/m/m/ muhuhuhahahhahah m/m/m/ |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | gonna set some Elder on my living room sound system for the family rn...3x Elder already dedex? Whats your thoughts on it? |
dedex
04.24.20 | I haven't listened to it yet! gonna jam it this afternoon
dem we struggle understanding each other this morning hahaha |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | ahahah shit...first track captured my interested man...definitely need a couple more listens to sink it in...I'm really digging their rock approach on this. |
nightbringer
04.24.20 | 1, 2 and 4 probably aren't my scene but I'm listening to 3 right now and really enjoying it. Finding it more engaging than previous Elder records I've tried. |
DoofDoof
04.24.20 | The Elder was pre good first listen, as it was a bit softer than some of their past work the vocals stood out a bit too much in the mix maybe? - and the vocals are never amazing on Elder albums.
The Ulcerate I'm finding intriguing in that some of the melodic sections hint at greater depths but it's just really dense to get into on the first listen. Guitar tone is as good as it needs to be. Find the drumming and vocals quite standard BM. |
Pikazilla
04.24.20 | 1 and 2 are awesome, still gotta check 3 and 4.
Best week of the year so far |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | "and the vocals are never amazing on Elder albums." I see and felt your point...but vocals are not an issue on Elder for me anymore...and Lore though...its a 4.5-5 album...but only got there like recently...always was kinda underwhelmed at Elder until the beginning of this year, it started to grow, especially Lore...
Yap Nightbringer 3 fits you the most...brilliancy of 1 is practically mandatory, but also acquired taste...2 well..I wish luck if you check it ahah but its honestly too good stuff. 4 its also pretty accessible to you.
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DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | "Best week of the year so far" [2] thus the list X)
oh and I guess I should tk Pika for re-showing me Elder. |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.24.20 | need to relisten to 1, hadn't decided how good I thought it was, also liking the look of 3
Katatonia have never done it for me, but will give 4 a check anyway. also, new Dance Gavin Dance probs belongs on the list + gonna check the new Used and Trivium out of morbid curiosity |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.24.20 | best week of the year was last week, but this one is p good
have *attempted* to feature this as a discussion point, will see how that pans out :] |
Pikazilla
04.24.20 | Surprised you don't like Katatonia, Johnny, seeing how you like Anathema. I know the two bands aren't even that similar but both have featured subtle lush instrumentation on their recent releases. The production on the singles is some of the best I've heard like ever. |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.24.20 | Yeah, I agree tbh - I gave Viva Emptiness a pretty good try when my Anathema fandom was at its peak but never got into it. Haven't heard a full Katatonia album since, but improved production defs has me interested |
TheNotrap
04.24.20 | Jamming Katatonia atm, I'm enjoying it. Next I'll get into Ulcerate on Spotify |
Gnocchi
04.24.20 | Probably the four most major metal albums released this week not including a mainstream take with Trivium |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | Tks for the feat Jhonny! Maybe I try Dance Gavin Dance this time...prob not today.
Can you resumé the past week for me then?
Hey Nocte! def big releases and I'm not sure if I'll check Trivium. Not because its mainstream...but because I'm pretty sure I won't dig.
Notrap, just finishing Elder, Katatonia on the way...the point today is starting slow. eheh
Elder was a smooth sweet rock listen...I can do the 4 for now...but still figuring if its to stay there or go down...for sure is no Lore. |
dedex
04.24.20 | Everybody already said it but im not a big fan of Elder's vocals on this one, I prefer when they stay more in the background. Also I think they used some kind of autotuned beforehand and it suited the voice better imo |
dedex
04.24.20 | but musically hot dang it's really good |
Pikazilla
04.24.20 | All about the jam sesh riffage, dedex. |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.24.20 | Last week was Fiona Apple, Rina Sawayama, an Enter Shikari album that didn't suck and a Smith Street Band I rly need to go and check as soon as this pretty great Elder album finishes lol |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | @dedex
I kinda agree...like on Lore and Reflections for instance, the core was instrumental and the vocals were kind of occasional idk...that was stronger...instrumental flows smooth af on this one though.
Have you done Slift dedex? I was pretty overwhelmed with it this week. Follows the same psystoner path, although much different from the new Elder. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | Awesome you dig that one Johnny...you can just counter that opinion but if you dug Elder, jump on Lore asap X) |
Pikazilla
04.24.20 | Yeah, so far Elder sounds like a hard 4. It's very nice, sure, but not jaw-dropping. |
dedex
04.24.20 | Today is riff day m/
Yup exactly 3D. I think I'm still gotta 4 it 'cause they put on one epic journey
And no, no Slift yet, I'm also kinda overwhelmed with all the new releases :[
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dedex
04.24.20 | Don't listen to 3D Johnny, Lore's very good but Reflections' the best ;] |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | no its not...that one its too loose of a hard 4 for me...Lore is the floyd shit + riffs...the perfect balance between old Elder (lol) and new Elder.
And man Slift is pretty new as well and we all should give it a listen. |
Pikazilla
04.24.20 | Both are fives, agreed. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | ahahah kaaay |
garas
04.24.20 | Well, I should request a name change to "GarasTheGrumpiest", because I gave a 3.5 to Ulcerate. It was fairly standard album from them, but I had to -0,5 my rating because it didn't match my expectations. |
Pikazilla
04.24.20 | Reported |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | ahah we like even when you're grumpy |
garas
04.24.20 | I did put Elder to my checklist though, since I pretty much liked Slift. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | I'm finding that Katatonia a rather classy smooth listen tbh
Wise choice garas, keep in mind that although pretty good it might turn out as the weakest from them to date (except the debut) the band started as an heavy fuzzy stoner riffing mofo, and started to get proggy and psy rockish. |
DoofDoof
04.24.20 | Katatonia I found a bit by the numbers
Like a boring, more conventional Anathema mixed with a mid tier metal band
It was ok, nothing new, but generic |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.24.20 | "Like a boring, more conventional Anathema mixed with a mid tier metal band"
sounds exactly like me general impression of them, hope I end up disagreeing over the new one though |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | its interesting how smooth and classy they are...still figuring though...f.e. I kinda liked last year's Swallow The Sun...I find resemblances, as to a smoother Soen too...
I guess I like to be bored then |
Pikazilla
04.24.20 | I was very pleased with the singles. I want to finish relistening to their discography before diving into the new one. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | Smooth...enjoyed the production fs...
Heading for another listen of Black Curse (this time on my music app) before the all mighty Ulcerate :P |
dedex
04.24.20 | "Like a boring, more conventional Anathema mixed with a mid tier metal band"
I feel the same, prob won't listen to the new LP
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DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | you won't get bored with Black Curse lemme tell you X) pissed? maybe...I am
One more dude calling Katatonia boring I virtually punch you in the face!
m/m/m/m/ m/m/m/m/ m/m/m/m/ m/m/m/m/ m/m/m/m/ |
dedex
04.24.20 | ok I will give Black Curse a listen in the coming days, that avg is intriguing |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | ups forgot its "my thread" and its not recommended to create animosities...I replace "One more dude calling Katatonia boring I virtually punch you in the face!" for "well...its melancholic metal so its ok you are not up to it X)" |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | "that avg is intriguing" nope...not intriguing at all |
garas
04.24.20 | Thanks for the reminder, friend! I haven't heard anything from Elder before, so I have no expectations or whatsoever.
Hey dedex, that Black Curse album is dope, really worth it to check out! (I liked it more than the new Ulcerate, tbh.) |
osmark86
04.24.20 | Ulcerate is a band that doesn't really stick very much with me. I can dig them for a bit, but they really sound pretty samey to me. I don't really know why because their style is one that really should be popping off with me (heavy, dissonant, sludgy, deathy...). I don't know, I keep trying and liking what I hear but then I just zone out after a while. |
osmark86
04.24.20 | Black Curse and Elder are two albums I will defo give a go and I've been planning on checking out Katatonia's backlog for a while now. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | I totally feel you on Ulcerate, although I kinda overwhelmingly 4d shrines...always felt like I m missimg something there...maybe its this one...I feel... |
lalchimiste
04.24.20 | I was really disappointed by the Katatonia single, but still stoked for the album as it's one of my favorite bands. Obviously Ulcerate never disappoints, ever carrying the torch of game changing, bar-setting DM. Didn't know about that new Elder, Lore is a modern prog-rock gem.
I know I am light years away from all these bands, but if you dig yourself some black/folk metal check out my new album which releases today as well :
https://allelic.bandcamp.com/album/contre-vent
https://open.spotify.com/album/7ruTAwwBwvMcRNZLKLsJeX |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | Hi friend! I'm finding the new Katatonia super classy smooth music. Its also nice to see some Lore love here.
Its really cool of you to share your music here and I'm sure I'll give it a go! I'm honored, Tks a lot. |
osmark86
04.24.20 | how are Ulcerate game-changing when they pretty much have their signature sound that they seem to mostly stick with across albums? |
osmark86
04.24.20 | also, fuck yes I'll check your album lalchimiste m/ |
garas
04.24.20 | "how are Ulcerate game-changing when they pretty much have their signature sound that they seem to mostly stick with across albums?" [2] |
Demon of the Fall
04.24.20 | Checked Ulcerate obviously, gonna hold off on any concrete opinions for now. I’m interested in 2, Blood Incantation rule! |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | I'm more all around Artificial Brain and Gorguts as game changers...don't have much doubts Ulcerate have done their part though.
Hi Demon...never took any Elder? |
Demon of the Fall
04.24.20 | I have EiF 5d and can’t actually remember why, shock value? Not sure, doesn’t blow my mind like it used to.
I wasn’t sure if Elder would appeal to me, think I remember seeing them talked about here. |
osmark86
04.24.20 | I very much agree with you DDD on Artificial Brain and Gorguts |
osmark86
04.24.20 | I'm curious about that Elder album too so will check that one out now |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | EiF is another 4 of mine, but for the same reasons...shock value...I sure need more listens on them to properly get them.
Elder is a v good band...but not an immediate one...they re amazing at their art though. Just don't give up on them, as I did for a couple of years and Lore, as said, is a prog rock gem.
3 of these are now featured...just put there Black Curse too and we're good! ahah |
osmark86
04.24.20 | sounds good so far |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | each song is one big little journey...tell us what you think at the end...this 2nd spin is revealing profitable, honestly. Halcyon ending m/ |
osmark86
04.24.20 | honestly the second song is bloody great. I'm not giving it justice on its own merit right now though because I'm improv-jamming along to it on my guitar XD |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | ahahah I guess that's good then! |
osmark86
04.24.20 | it's hella fun to jam too so far give it that |
Demon of the Fall
04.24.20 | For clarification it’s still a 4.5/5, I just might demote it. Been revisiting a lot of 5s recently. |
Sniff
04.24.20 | do trivium too only true metal bros will understand |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | eheh...my hands are full atm...I demoted that one from today's listens...but out of your take I might check it in the near future. Tks for showing up Sniff...which one of these you jammed? |
Sniff
04.24.20 | Remember when doof called Ulcerate vox and drums standard bm vox and drums |
tectactoe
04.24.20 | Need to jam the Ulcerate again in a few days. 3/5 or now. Enjoyed parts of it immensely, though I'm not sure if it's just too dense to handle in one sitting, or if it's truly as homogeneous as it initially appears. Maybe, sometimes, both?? |
Sniff
04.24.20 | 1 is a 5
2 is a 4
3 is a 2.5
4 is a 1 like every other katatonia album |
tectactoe
04.24.20 | Wasn't released today (last week, actually), but the new Oranssi Pazuzu album is worth a mention. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | 1 means awful and I disagree with most 1s in the first place...
X) my bad...I asked ahah |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | tectactoe, this is this Friday Premieres only ...prob will erase the list by the end of the day...
that said, I'm absolute crazy about that Oranssi Pazuzu! |
osmark86
04.24.20 | 3 is leaning towards at least a 3.5 for me so far. it's very stoner/bluesy space jams, but hell that's what you crave every now and then |
osmark86
04.24.20 | oh yeah forgot Oranssi Pazuzu had a new album. those guys are weird af in the best of ways. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | its awesome ahah |
osmark86
04.24.20 | they're finn-trolls, gotta love them |
osmark86
04.24.20 | keksinnön paska |
Shuyin
04.24.20 | Yes! Must check 1 and 2 ASAP |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | "keksinnön paska" only listened to their latest yet...so I don't know what are you talking about
Hi Shu! Off course...and check 3 for a smooth one |
Shuyin
04.24.20 | Elder is a quality band, but Ulcerate and BC are some of my favs |
lalchimiste
04.24.20 | @osmark86 Thanks for checking it out!
Maybe I misworded my statement, I was mostly implying the EiF album has been game changing (since every disso-death as been taking cues from that album) and yes they pretty much built around that formula since then we agree on that :) |
osmark86
04.24.20 | haven't checked it yet mate, but I will. |
osmark86
04.24.20 | I find it hard to believe they were the biggest influencers for disso-death considering EiF came out as late as 2009 but I'm hardly an expert in the area. if that is the case, then yes I suppose you're right in them being very influential. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | Ulcerate is getting better with a glass of red... |
osmark86
04.24.20 | Black Curse no listeners yet on spotify? hot damn XD |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.24.20 | It wasn t available...came late by mistake...I use deezer and I m ye only fan there though...hum lol |
Deathconscious
04.25.20 | already jammed 2 and was waiting for 1 and 3. i like 2020. |
osmark86
04.25.20 | Thought 2 was decent enough. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.25.20 | I hope you meant that musically Adolf ahah m/
You crazy os? 2 is heavily one of best releases this year...even if you re not as easily impressionable as I am x) |
Pikazilla
04.25.20 | If it hadn't been for Ulcerate, 2 would've been my aotm. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.25.20 | That Ulcerate is damn impressive...havent finished yet and def need a few more spins. |
garas
04.25.20 | "I use deezer" Ooooooh, you're the first person I've met who (still) uses deezer :0 |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.25.20 | Ahahah damn...that app is practically the same as spotify nowadays...I only subscribed that one because my operator give me 10 gb of data on that app exclusively. |
Deathconscious
04.25.20 | Yes, i meant musically, 2020 has been total shit in most other ways lol. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | 1. Cautious 4, but I can see it grow, cause its already started to
2. Insane 4.5 material
3. Bold 4 cause I dig the band a lot
4. Surprising, smooth and classy 4 |
Pikazilla
04.27.20 | Reported |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | You have to be patient on me Pika ;) I'll get there eventually ahah |
Pikazilla
04.27.20 | I'm just messing with you xD |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | ok X) and its ok if you report me, I can defend myself.
added some first/second impressions to the ones I hadn't listen to yet... |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.27.20 | DDD would I enjoy 2? not sure whether to check. otherwise:
1. 4 (spun it again and looking like a stable rating)
2. n/a
3. 3.5
4. 2.5
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DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | Hum oh well...I don't think so...it goes super hard...it depends on what you think of OSDM with some Doom leanings... I don't know your take on Blood Incantation f.e. or Tom Mold (although pretty different) ....vocal delivery is insane...but again I don't see you as a DM digger...I can be wrong though. |
JohnnyoftheWell
04.27.20 | Tbh I still need to catch up on Blood Incantation, so will take that as a prompt and check them instead sometime ;] |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | Like, this is nothing new...its just awesome! ahah |
Demon of the Fall
04.27.20 | Black Curse is decent. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | Best extreme metal vocal deliver of the year so far. |
Demon of the Fall
04.27.20 | The vocals are suitably demonic yeah. Just letting it settle at the minute. |
osmark86
04.27.20 | I mean the vocals are good but overall I didn't hear anything that stood out that much that other acts don't already do better. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | Thing is, they are the other acts...if you dig BI's psych DM, or Spectral Voice's atmospheric doom there's no other way to embrace it, adding to this the weight/ violence lent by Primitive Man's guitarist...this shit is evil m/m/m/ there's a ton nuances and little crazy sounds coming from this that hold my interest on further listens (not to mention the vocals vary more than what we get at first) |
osmark86
04.27.20 | I dunno man, it just didn't click that much with me on first listen. I kinda like BI's psych DM because it's just generally "far out man" and Spectral Voice is hella cool because of how slow and cavernous it sounds. they just kinda clicked for me whereas Black Curse kinda didn't. I guess I'll have to check it out again and see if I have a different impression second time around. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | ahah yeah this came at me as some pissed off Spectral Voice lol while being cavernous as well...maybe it'll click. would love to help...I love how the album ends f.e. with that super cool continuous riff. To add I'd always rec the tracks Enraptured by Decay and T/track. |
osmark86
04.27.20 | it's no Tomb Mold though that's for sure ;) |
Pikazilla
04.27.20 | It's as good imo |
osmark86
04.27.20 | could be that I'm into an atmospheric bm + stoner metal phase atm that I'm not as receptive to new dm shit I don't know XD. I'll give it another go though for sure. |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.27.20 | "It's as good imo" pretty much yeah...different vibe all along tho. |
Demon of the Fall
04.27.20 | I’m not completely sold on it either yet, just wanted to award it credit for something. Certainly not bad though. |
Zig
04.29.20 | 3 is actually a nice surprise. Thanks, DDD! |
DDDeftoneDDD
04.29.20 | I'm happily stoked you dug it! If you jump on Lore the surprise factor can go on. Its them in a more floydish take. |