zakalwe
11.10.22 | Boycotting it. Dead game.
T20 cricket > |
beefshoes
11.10.22 | Everyone had their money on Kohli after that stunner against Pakistan, only for England to come around and brute force their way into the final. Ngl man, phenomenal world cup for sure. Got into cricket at the perfect time. |
zakalwe
11.10.22 | Nothing like it for excitement, as shown in that India v Pakistan match. As for the England v India game that was absolute domination. Incredible stuff.
Fucking love it. |
wojodta
11.10.22 | US will win the whole thing obviously |
CugnoBrasso
11.10.22 | Switzerland - Brasil 7-0 easy |
Taxt
11.11.22 | Hope Argentina takes it |
beefshoes
11.11.22 | Watch out Benzema cuz Pulisic is coming lol
For Argentina making it to the final, depends on who they go against in the knockout fixtures. Lazy answer since it applies to everyone, but I mean, it wouldn't be shocking if they managed to pull it off. Can't see them beating France, but there's a case to be made that they're stronger than Brazil overall. |
Jasdevi087
11.11.22 | Where's the best place to pirate this boys? Qatari state and broadcasters aren't getting a cent of this shit |
beefshoes
11.11.22 | It's always easy to find streams on reddit and twitter. |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Can’t wait for this - half of my workplace are boycotting it for various reasons sending out virtue signalling emails, a lot of righteous killjoy energy out there.
I would not have chosen Qatar but I guess it’s still somewhat progressive to host it there (yes, real reason was money doesn’t change that) and it remains a football tournament. It’s the only one we’re getting so bring it on.
Be funny if somehow Qatar escape their group. Are Iran total dog meat, thought they might push Wales/USA? |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | I feel England are due a shocker and Southgate is probably off after this tournament…managers don’t tend to leave on a high very often. He’s gone for experience at the back but that back line could be very slow!
The beast that is Reece James will be sorely missed by England. |
sheelanagig
11.11.22 | Boycotting it |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Yeah a lot of people are doing the Geoffrey |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | Fucking Qatar in November with a load of bollocks bolted on to it. A symbol of what the world has become. A sold out, hollow shell. |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.22 | I'm boycotting too, first time I won't be watching an international tournament since I started in '96 (haha, I like 'doing the Geoffrey'). Also, not knowingly giving any money to the official sponsors (which shouldn't be difficult in all honesty).
The whole thing is a disgrace. |
unclereich
11.11.22 | messssssiiiiiiiiiii |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Zak, it's still the World Cup - you're not getting another for four years
'I'm boycotting too, first time I won't be watching an international tournament since I started in '96'
yeah I just think this is silly thinking, register displeasure, but you might as well still watch it - if it's as big a disaster or as soulless as people expect then that will become clear, then stop watching etc. It might (whisper it) be really really good ? :/
The warm feeling for wearing the righteous 'boycott badge' will last a very short time whereas the tournament is potentially about four weeks of potential pleasure missed. |
Artuma
11.11.22 | The whole thing is a disgrace. [2]
it's the world cup so the temptation to watch will probably take me but man just fuck FIFA. i don't think people boycotting this thing will make any difference tbh |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | It's ridiculous but it's what we've got, if you're actually into football you watch it, anyone I know seriously into their football you ask 'watching it?' and they're 'yup, why wouldn't I?'
You can not agree with a lot about something and still engage with it anyway - this polarised reactions stuff leaves me cold. 'Not impressed it's in Qatar - also still watching it' is an available option to any and all lol. |
claygurnz
11.11.22 | 'Not impressed it's in Qatar - still watching it'
Sums me up tbh. Probably won't watch the opening game though, Qatar V Ecuador is a hard game to sell to myself, let alone if I had another half |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | ‘Zak, it's still the World Cup’
Is it Doof, is it really?
It’s been hollowed out and swallowed up. Everything that’s been shit about the game for the last 20 years and has cast a shadow over the game for even more has born fruit.
The corporate stranglehold
The over hyping of the bog standard. From teams to players so the agents can make their money off the back of the average.
The selling of what for hundreds of millions of people was ‘their game’ to a nation which could not give the first fuck.
The corruption.
The hollowness.
The magic, the spirit, the excitement. Gone. Sold. Sodden.
|
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Zak, all that's well and good
but it's the World Cup
randomness remains, the most unlikely tournaments are sometimes the best - I really enjoyed the last Euros - was an island in the middle of all the covid bullshit for me, on holiday screaming at a telly in my regular pub in Lanzarote having a laugh with the owners. Was amazing tbh
I'll agree there are less characters in the game now, probably less magic...but there's some nostalgia speaking there too which isn't necessarily current football's fault. |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Did you ever play cricket at school zak - I did and it resulted in a lifetime boycott of the game lol
an hour and a half after hometime still sitting in batting pads on a summer's day thinking 'why, what the fuck is this shit?'
A lot of my mates are into it - but hardly any ever played it... |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | If it’s not Valderamma doing a line off maradonnas puma kings while someone is assassinated for being shite played to the soundtrack of pissed up England fans parping out the Great Escape it ain’t the World Cup |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | The only thing I ever played at school was football and begrudgingly hockey. One lad lost an eyeball. |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.22 | agreed with all of what zak said to be honest and I just can't get behind a tournament held in a country with so many obvious human rights violations, some of which helped spawn this atrocity (while the big wigs / officials at the top make £££s off of a global audience).
If you watch, you're essentially paying / supporting the tournament through advertising, as lower viewing figures would be damaging in this sense - no, probably not enough to make any real difference, but I'd rather do that then try and force myself through a mid-season cup, that'll probably be crap quality anyway |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | we did football, rugby and cricket - believe me you only want to play football out of that lot, other two are regimented and really boring when played by a bunch of kids
always loved football, the one team sport I did carry on playing into adult life until aged about 30 and fucked it off to get my weekends back. |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Demon - I still buy loads of stuff from China etc, it takes ten seconds to feel like a hypocrite picking and choosing stances like that
it's a pair of jeans, you wear them
it's the World Cup, you watch it
but if you're not that into it anyway then sure, I wouldn't choose to support it...but I have no choice, I have to watch it lol |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | Aged 13 I was in the school team, volleyed one in to the top left hand corner from 25yrds.
An absolute fucking screamer.
I’d be worth 700 mil nowadays. |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | I just want to see how bad the Qatar team are - you don't tend to get those 10-0 games at a WC much anymore |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.22 | @Doof: that line of thinking leads to the acceptance of everything though, no you can't just stop buying consumables in case they come from dodgy means somewhere, it's almost impossible to trace everything back - and honestly, sometimes I don't think about these things (who does? - hard to live your life this way)...
However, I feel like this example is so blatantly corrupt / sinister from a human rights standpoint and also effects the game I (did) love, so I have multiple reasons for taking this stance. It certainly isn't because I don't care about football, far from it in fact. |
Sinternet
11.11.22 | i was lucky enough to play a ton of different sports at secondary school but nothing quite compares to football does it?
although i still love badminton, and we used to play kabaddi a lot which is a lot of fun
remember one game where i scored a perfect hattrick and made two goal-line clearances, stopped playing shortly after - knew i'd never reach that peak again |
Sinternet
11.11.22 | "The beast that is Reece James will be sorely missed by England."
it hurts man, now everyone can experience injured star fullback fc |
Sinternet
11.11.22 | also yeah the whole thing is vile and a sham, but unfortunately its still the world cup. hoping for some widescale protest/mockery at least to dampen the whole thing, not that it would accomplish much though |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Demon - I think everyone has registered their displeasure at this point, the whole thing has been widely criticised even by Blatter etc
That's been done, now you just watch.
Look, the whole thing is partially borne from a drive to be more 'progressive' so progressive people seeing it as 'only bad' is also a bit off imo - they don't have a good LGBQT record? 90% of the world didn't just one or two generations ago - shutting out places like Qatar rather than attempting to bring them into things is prob not the way to go either.
It's corruption, it's nonsensical...but there are some other arguments/possible benefits.
Mainly just hope the football is decent. |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | Kabaddi |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.22 | since when did I say our government was innocent? fuck me
I think showing your displeasure should mean something and for me, I'm doing that by not watching it. It's a personal choice, sure
I (equally) will not be judging anyone who DOES watch it. |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Demon - I think the actual outcome that means something has been achieved...I don't think we'll get 'another Qatar' awarded a WC in a long time. Obvious corruption will be avoided as so under the microscope, and i think places with at least SOME football heritage and infrastructure will be looked at for the foreseeable future.
I think the choices for tournament hosts can be somewhat progressive without choosing Qatar.
Job is done, relax, watch it. |
Demon of the Fall
11.11.22 | that's a fair point, if you actually believe it, I suppose. Hopefully the distaste has been communicated strongly enough.
I'm sceptical, but we'll see |
DoofDoof
11.11.22 | Surely FIFA can't pull a stunt like this in quite some time?
Look they might host the next one in China or Dubia but I really really doubt it after the reaction to this tournament.
Almost want China to get the next one and be the only country STILL in 'Covid lockdown'
'Zero covid - Total football' would be my tagline |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | I’ve got the same resentment as US ‘94 tbh |
unclereich
11.11.22 | you guys oughta hear about what we do in the us of a :] |
Egarran
11.11.22 | >The whole thing is a disgrace.
This is a big part of why I'm gonna watch it. |
zakalwe
11.11.22 | Argies will win. |
Shemson
11.11.22 | I’d like Argentina to win (obviously if we don’t)
As a neutral viewer of the Spanish league and Champions League Messi has been a joy to watch over the years and this is his last chance on the biggest stage |
Sinternet
11.11.22 | i can't really see past brazil personally, that team is absolutely stacked all over the pitch the same way france was in 2018 |
notagenius
11.11.22 | Germany's group is not so easy as it looks. hard to say |
Josh D.
11.11.22 | Astros number one |
daiguit91Kider
11.12.22 | A: Netherlands, Senegal
B: England, USA
C: Argentina, Mexico
D: Denmark, France
E: Germany, Spain
F: Croatia, Belgium
G: Brazil, Swiss
H: Uruguay, Portugal
Argentina or Brazil to win it all
typed all from memory lol
|
DoofDoof
11.15.22 | nah, can't wait - wfh + world cup = good times |
zakalwe
11.15.22 | I am out on the piss for the England v US game. Table booked down the boozer and all that but I’m bloody miffed.
🏏 > |
anat
11.15.22 | it’s just sad that we’ll not be in sunny pub gardens this go around, got some cherished memories of 2018 |
Egarran
11.16.22 | Someone interpret zak's last post please. All I got is that he prefers cricket, the madlad. |
KnickFurey
11.16.22 | He is out having drinks while watching the England vs US game, is upset about something, and prefers inferior sports. |
beefshoes
11.18.22 | It's official— no beer in Qatar. |
Egarran
11.18.22 | Thanks Nick. I guess he's miffed about the Qatar factor. |
zakalwe
11.18.22 | Bloody miffed at the Qatar factor.
The game has sold its soul and yet I’ll still be in the pub, shouting at the tele.
It’d be bloody rude not to. |
CygnusX1
11.18.22 | Slave labor rules lets gooo wordle cup! Too bad soccer is kinda boring tho |
Egarran
11.18.22 | I'm watching it because I want to see the scandals in real time.
It doesn't seem like Qatar is really aware of what a beast they're trying to tame with their medieval theocracy. |
Muzz79
11.18.22 | It’s outrageous really they got it and then put it on in November, interrupting every league in the world. Just so some FIFA douches could get a kick back. |
Muzz79
11.18.22 | But being a huge football fan I’ll watch as much as possible. Hey Eg we play your guys after France. We’re in trouble lol |
Egarran
11.19.22 | Wut Muzz you're Australian? I thought you were on the other hemisphere.
Excie mate. |
Muzz79
11.19.22 | Yeah mate. We come from all over on sputnik don’t we |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | Personally saw it from a mile off but they’ve already pulled the rug from under the fans feet by banning booze unless you’re a VIP.
The dirty, hypocritical, shameful bunch of cunts. |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | Being bladdered in public can land you a six month jail term and urinating in public or taking off your shirt can incur a £2500 fine out there so that late call prob for the best |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | Obviously accepting we are where we are, uh, Qatar
Been watching the FIFA doc on Netflix but not quite as juicy as hoped |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | It’s the ridiculousness of it.
Cash under the table, ‘we will appease the global fanbase’ make more money and then 48hrs pre-tournament ban alcohol unless it’s a 20 grand ticket you’ve got in your pocket.
When I was in Dubai the amount of people properly pissed up in hotels but don’t do it in public whatever you do haram this haram that while walking the streets and there’s cards for whores littered on the pavement.
Absolute hypocrisy |
unclereich
11.19.22 | just 3 more months until the Super Bowl |
Egarran
11.19.22 | ^Well that is easy to boycott.
> FIFA President Gianni Infantino at news conference in Qatar: “Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker. ... I know what it feels to be discriminated … I was bullied because I had red hair.”
Amazing. |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | I thought he was talking about what food he wanted to eat later until he said ‘today I feel gay’
Today I feel like chicken tonight…chicken tonight |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | Progressive agenda decrees at some point that quest will lead you to a non progressive and indeed defensive culture that believe in what they believe - and rightfully so? Or not?
Perfect inevitable storm |
Egarran
11.19.22 | If I understand your cryptic post right, not. |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | I’m saying eventually something had to bring up this conundrum - a liberal progressive agenda that now has a set of core fundamental beliefs that have almost become a religion in some ways (little compromise there)…meeting a religious culture with beliefs that still seem to be unshakable for now (even less compromise).
It didn’t HAVE to be the World Cup (could have been the Olympics etc) but it’s happened this time and now you have FIFA spokespeople having to strike a balance between TWO sets of fundamental beliefs that - if you don’t dance around it - are diametrically opposed to one another. There’s an argument both sets are perfectly entitled to hold them and the progressive drive was reciprocated by the hosts … but it’s getting messy.
You so much as fart and you either offend one group or both - FIFA wouldn’t have expected it to be this bad ten years ago but culture has changed a lot in that time. They’re going to have to squirm and take it, Qatar was a poor fit on just footballing terms, there was a get out…
For what it's worth I want it to be a decent tournament and hopefully it's looked back on as having built some bridges/opening a discourse on a few things and proves to be progressive in a worthwhile way - I'm not totally against the thing. If it proves to be a complete waste of time and/or a disaster I'll be first to call foul yup. |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | Hopefully it’ll be a disaster |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | well, that's still 'sit back with popcorn' time I guess
we only get a tournament every two years, to wish this to be a disaster would be spiting myself - Spurs are playing a brand of football that makes me want to end it all right now, a break from that would be welcome |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | Off to Billericay Town v Canvey next weekend.
Fucking big game that. |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | real deal lol |
fogza
11.19.22 | I drew Switzerland in the office sweepstakes pool. Is that good |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | if it's for outright winner and not weighted in any way...you've lost
I drew France so torn - team I most like to see lose but I get £150 if they win |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | Unbelievably, believe it or not I’ve got Qatar lol |
henryChinaski
11.19.22 | not gonna watch this shit show |
DoofDoof
11.19.22 | Zak - Qatar to win the whole thing would need a lot more brown paper envelopes
If they were in Englands group and we’d taken and played Ivan Toney he might have tried to score three own goals maybe |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | Haha. Indeed mate.
For the record, in terms of how we will do I don’t see us getting out the group stage. |
beefshoes
11.19.22 | Damn Benzema might not be there after all. |
Egarran
11.19.22 | It has now been decided that no Danish politicians or royalty will attend. Took them long enough to reach that very obvious decision.
Seems plausible that the alcohol ban was the final straw. |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | lol |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | Madrid protecting its asset. Champs League and all that.
Fucking World Cup in November. |
Deez
11.19.22 | I predict the shittest world cup in history |
zakalwe
11.19.22 | Hopefully |
fogza
11.20.22 | "if it's for outright winner and not weighted in any way...you've lost"
Fuck
|
Egarran
11.20.22 | Seems safe to put all your money on a Qatar win today. |
Jasdevi087
11.20.22 | lmao Qatar are shit |
SharkTooth
11.20.22 | Qatar got wiped bad |
Egarran
11.20.22 | Haha that first VAR call sent us all to conspiracy dreamland. |
Hyperion1001
11.20.22 | I love when people call for boycotts of things I already would never do lmao
#winning |
DoofDoof
11.20.22 | Only a win if you put any cache in virtue points? Otherwise it is just neutral? |
Egarran
11.20.22 | I am personally in awe of Hyperion1001 |
KnickFurey
11.21.22 | Express genocide |
Egarran
11.21.22 | Woah, never seen dewi this bothered.
Pretty sure this WC is not an attempt to veil the war in Ukraine. |
Shemson
11.21.22 | Southgate starting Maguire 🤣 jfc
Also seen fifa app has crashed and thousands of England fans can’t get into the game because they’re not accepting email confirmation…
Good start Qatar! |
Deez
11.21.22 | Liverpool fans getting the blame from Fifa when that happened at the Final last year and here we are again.
Fifa are a bunch of fking dogs |
SharkTooth
11.21.22 | Iran is just getting hammered rn |
Scheumke
11.21.22 | England's looking good in this first match. Iran seems to have nothing to bring this game. Looking forward to Netherlands' match later today. I've never had less hype leading up to a WC (both for our country's team and the whole Qatar thing obv) but now that it's started it's starting to tickle me again. Will probably end up watching most matches lol. |
Egarran
11.21.22 | > Iran seems to have nothing to bring this game.
2 goals tho. With a defense they might have won.
But yeah England could win this thing. |
Scheumke
11.21.22 | Yeah posted that in halftime when Iran had not showed the slightest hint that they were actually going to do anything haha. Was a very entertaining game overall. |
zakalwe
11.21.22 | If England were ever going to do it in the modern era it’ll be at this absolute soul destroyer of a tournament. |
Jasdevi087
11.21.22 | nah hope the states and the welsh wreck y'all |
zakalwe
11.21.22 | “I. I believe. I believe that We Will Win!”
Absolutely fucking clueless bless ‘em. |
DoofDoof
11.21.22 | Group B is proving entertaining...I'm...liking this so far...?
|
DoofDoof
11.21.22 | still wouldn't want to be Qatar watching it though |
zakalwe
11.21.22 | Sheep, Sheep, Sheep Shaggers!!!
Go on the Wales |
Jasdevi087
11.21.22 | States are gonna choke it |
beefshoes
11.22.22 | Not sure if the US actually played well in the first half, or if Wales just played that poorly. They pressed well, dominated possession, and created a decent amount of chances, but they crumbled in the second half. Incredibly dumb penalty to concede too. Agreed in general though— very entertaining group to watch, and can't wait to watch the match with England on Friday in spite of it likely being a total thrashing. haha |
Pheromone
11.22.22 | fucking hell argentina |
anat
11.22.22 | argenteenie |
DoofDoof
11.22.22 | Maybe people will stop telling me Argentina have a better squad this year than Brazil now
Probably not |
beefshoes
11.22.22 | Randomly woke up toward the end of the second half, saw the score, and thought I was hallucinating. Fuckin hell |
claygurnz
11.22.22 | lol I had them down to win it all, obviously they aren't out yet but this doesn't bode well |
DoofDoof
11.22.22 | Saudis got a lot of luck but they had the spirit and kept fighting, actually deserved at least a draw, the way Argentina responded second half they didn't deserve a result |
Demon of the Fall
11.22.22 | Argentina's defence usually undoes them, they still don't look great there (on paper), starting Otamendi in 2022? Okay. Tagliafico can be got at too. Romero is decent and I have no idea re the RB, but overall it doesn't seem imposing for a 'tournament favourite'.
I suppose you could say the same of England
didn't see it though |
anat
11.22.22 | felt like the argentine defence thought they were gonna have the day off, just very lazy and not-present |
bigweinerdon
11.22.22 | Canadas winning their group easy |
Pheromone
11.22.22 | > They fully committed to the notion of parking the bus.
did we watch the same game? |
beefshoes
11.22.22 | Ridiculously excited for the France match. Hopefully they don't pull an Argentina haha |
Egarran
11.22.22 | They did for a while and it was fun. But then they got serious. |
notagenius
11.23.22 | Germany was following in the footsteps of Argentina today lmao |
Rolling Girl
11.23.22 | Only game I managed to catch so far was Mexico v Poland :c
I'm absolutely loving these upsets I'm hearing about. But as a Brazil fan I'm very spooked lol. |
Jasdevi087
11.23.22 | the Canadians are up for this you know |
Deez
11.23.22 | Some terrible decisions around the box tho |
Sinternet
11.23.22 | fairly surprised how energetic and up for it canada are but its always gonna be the lack of experience that does them in, can see them getting quite tired by 70th minute unless they can grab an equaliser before then |
rabidfish
11.23.22 | damn, i wish this WC continues with this cool games like Ger-Jap, that was really a really fun game to watch. |
Dmax28
11.23.22 | Japan games tend to be great. The Japan vs Belgium game last world cup may have been the craziest game I ever saw. |
Rolling Girl
11.23.22 | I remember that one last WC. The last goal Belgium had was both wonderful and heartbreaking |
Egarran
11.23.22 | Canada was great. I hope they qualify.
Do we have any Canadians here? I can only think of maybe torts. |
Demon of the Fall
11.23.22 | bloc |
Demon of the Fall
11.23.22 | Pots |
Demon of the Fall
11.23.22 | Definitely someone else vaguely important, but I forget |
Thalassic
11.23.22 | Belgium's such a snore |
Egarran
11.23.22 | Right pots, that's who I meant
wait
isn't torts also pots? |
claygurnz
11.24.22 | I'm Canadian but have grown up in London so I've been an England fan for a while. Happy to see Canada play really well last night, although once they got to the edge of the box they seemed to run out of ideas pretty quickly.
Never thought I'd see Canada at a WC so that's something. |
beefshoes
11.24.22 | That Portugal game, goddamn. Maybe the best one yet. |
Rolling Girl
11.24.22 | Really wanted to see Ronaldo eat shit or something lol. But what an incredible 2nd half especially. |
SlothcoreSam
11.24.22 | That sneaky fucka almost scored at the end, if he didn't slip, that was in. |
Egarran
11.24.22 | Our god is a cruel god. That would have been the perfect end.
Gotta feel sorry for the poor fucks who are boycotting this. |
Dmax28
11.24.22 | This Serbia Brazil game is lit so far |
beefshoes
11.24.22 | Fucking Richarlison man....that was absolutely sublime |
Egarran
11.24.22 | Game got sexy. They must be favorites now. |
beefshoes
11.25.22 | England vs USA could get pretty crazy later. |
zakalwe
11.25.22 | Come on England.
4-0 |
Minortimbo12
11.25.22 | ISHOWSPEED. |
Taxt
11.25.22 | US about to get wrecked tbh |
beefshoes
11.25.22 | Definitely not the case so far. Surprisingly solid performance, with some great defending on both sides. |
gravityswitch
11.25.22 | England bad |
beefshoes
11.25.22 | Well, Wales are certainly not living up to their potential. Hard to say how England or the US would stack up against sides like Brazil and France in the knockout stage. Wouldn't dare to even attempt to make predictions at this point. haha
The US definitely played better than England today though. Apart from the first 15 minutes or so, England were asleep. |
Jasdevi087
11.25.22 | Wales got incredibly hard done by tbf, both those goals were in stoppage time. Game was pretty end to end
lmao @ Qatar already being eliminated |
zakalwe
11.25.22 | Pipe down beef it was shit. |
rabidfish
11.25.22 | USA needs a decent finisher, they got the brain and muscle to make good plays and dismantle defenses. |
zakalwe
11.25.22 | Pipe down fish you’re chatting shit |
beefshoes
11.25.22 | Agreed. Lots of decent chances, strong on the break, but the finishing just isn't up to par with the likes of stronger, more experienced squads.
Southgate out, huh zak? He really seems hellbent on not changing things up at all. Very nepotistic, and conservative to a fault. It shouldn't have been a contest on paper. Maybe if the likes of TAA, Wilson, and Foden had started, the result would have been different. Credit to Maguire though. Did well in snuffing us out. |
rabidfish
11.25.22 | i don't understand how u don't play Foden in this game.
Fuckin' 'ell |
beefshoes
11.25.22 | Also as a Yank, I feel for England. If we reach the knockout stage, guarantee that most of the US either won't care or will be aware of what it means, or will see that as a colossal feat in and of itself, regardless of if we play shit football or not and get obliterated by a class side. We could reach the semis and a decent chunk of the country still wouldn't care cuz they see it as a sport for children and women. England's target is to win, and you guys always have squads that are more than capable of doing it. It's mostly a matter of shit management I guess, and that element of nepotism that holds you guys back from going all the way. We just don't have the culture here that truly backs up American success, which is why I usually end up supporting England whenever we get eliminated. Kinda happy about the result, but it's hollow knowing that we'd get slaughtered as soon as the group stage ends, and can't really even celebrate the victory since so few people here even follow it |
zakalwe
11.25.22 | Beef you see it as a game for women and children.
You have your baseball, your basketball, your ‘football’
Games that are grass roots, accommodating and entertainment on a level that engages the crowd.
We have football.
A tradition anchored to the towns and cities we live in and in which we were sucked into having been taken to games by our elders.
Bloody baltic fog strewn nights where you see a last minute winner.
A fan getting his head kicked in, walking to the train station.
A boozer absolutely rammed and pulsating with an atmosphere you don’t get anywhere else.
Passion. Rivalry and something inate which cannot be expressed in terms but is made manifest by 3 points or a lifting of a cup.
South Americans get it
Europeans get it.
Yanks don’t unless it’s franchised and sold in some format that can be consumed.
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zakalwe
11.25.22 | Fucking dead game and yes I’ve had about 12 pints.
Slags |
unclereich
11.25.22 | good game
*fart noises* |
unclereich
11.26.22 | US about to get wrecked tbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmLmt_0XDb0 |
Muzz79
11.26.22 | You rule zak. Football culture is growing in Australia. Has always the biggest participation sport and now the A-league has proper active support which often creates that European atmosphere inside grounds. Nowhere like England though which I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing. Big night here for our boys against Tunisia. The whole country will be watching |
zakalwe
11.26.22 | Ta Muzz. Stella fuelled rants at my age. Ridiculous.
Today while nursing the hangover I shall be supporting
Poland
Mexico
Australia
Denmark
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Egarran
11.26.22 | Thank you Zak, we're gonna need it.
And I'm pretty sure Stella fueled rants is a thing for all ages.
Maybe not very small children. |
rabidfish
11.26.22 | What a goal Messi!
What a goal Enzo!
Great game today
|
SharkTooth
11.27.22 | I've been hearing the sports announcers saying the recent goal by Canada was their first in world cup history
is that true? |
Egarran
11.27.22 | Their virginity has indeed been conquered. |
SharkTooth
11.27.22 | damn what a letdown, Germany just scored but was declared offside |
Scheumke
11.27.22 | Best game of the tournament so far in Spain vs Germany. Finally a game that actually delivered from both sides. Not that the wc hasn't been very enjoyable, but so far it's been teams underperforming that've made it entertaining so it's great to see two top teams playing very well. |
zakalwe
11.27.22 | Didn’t open up until the 60th minute. |
Deez
11.27.22 | Yeah its been shite |
Muzz79
11.28.22 | "A boozer absolutely rammed and pulsating with an atmosphere you don’t get anywhere else". We had that the other night and when Duke scored it went off.
This World Cup has been awesome so far. Upsets and tension only WC football can deliver |
unclereich
11.28.22 | 🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷 |
DoofDoof
11.30.22 | Wales were poor, think it’s the end for them - without a Giggs or a Bale they’re back to being Northern Ireland level.
Their only possible salvation is the format of the World Cup might make it easier to qualify.
Haven’t really seen the England defence tested yet - cue Senegal. They will score against us but think this England side has three or four goals in them in an open game. |
Pheromone
11.30.22 | denmark to hopefully beat australia today |
zakalwe
11.30.22 | Let’s face it. England are going to balls it up. |
rabidfish
11.30.22 | Senegal has an actual coach with them, no fair |
claygurnz
11.30.22 | England will beat Senegal then lose in the quarters I reckon |
wham49
11.30.22 | US did well to get out of the group, but will not have much of a chance to move past the round of 16, soe sort of freak occurance maybe, but just can't score. In the first half yesterday only attempted their 4 shot on goal the whole tourney, completely crazy |
Egarran
11.30.22 | Ahh well that was terrible. Good to be out at last
hrm
Seeing the joy on the Australian faces makes it all worth it. |
Rolling Girl
11.30.22 | Wish Mexico could've advanced. They've been fun to watch. :c |
DoofDoof
11.30.22 | Knocked out by a shit tie break rule
Surely ‘goals for’ is better than discipline record? |
beefshoes
11.30.22 | I was way off for Australia. Congrats.
Also wish that Mexico had made it through. Poland definitely had luck in its favor.
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Kusangii
11.30.22 | Poland was so fucking shit lmao |
Taxt
11.30.22 | Glad Argentina has sobered up after game 1 |
rabidfish
11.30.22 | Saudi Arabia's whole mission this WC was to upset the spanish-speaking countries, huh? That fucking goal leaves Mexico out and gave Poland way too big of a consolation prize. Well, that's the WC for ya! |
beefshoes
12.01.22 | I'm just ready for the drama heading into the Uruguay/Ghana fixture. Imagine the collective African jeer whenever Dracula emerges from his coffin. Ghana better have a Belmont in their squad just in case. |
Dmax28
12.01.22 | Belgium not being able to score with all those chances and just needing one goal to advance was crazy |
beefshoes
12.01.22 | Not surprising though given their performance overall. Serious respect to Morocco. Had them dead last in the group. |
Egarran
12.01.22 | Danes appreciate the Belgian collapse. |
Jasdevi087
12.01.22 | holy fuck group E |
rabidfish
12.01.22 | damn, i wish costa rica had won their game. Fucking spain were cowards and pussies. Fucking awful attitude, hope Morrocco gives them the reality shower they deserve. |
Egarran
12.01.22 | Amazing. No other sport does this.
Just be happy Spain made it. |
beefshoes
12.01.22 | Fucking Japan, what a game! |
Muzz79
12.02.22 | Cracking WC |
Taxt
12.02.22 | I can't believe Japan beat Germany, lost to Costa Rica, & then beat Spain. Absolutely wild.
Most importantly though, GTFO Germany! |
Rolling Girl
12.02.22 | LETS GO JAPAN
But also Germany did all that work just to let Spain qualify |
SharkTooth
12.02.22 | Holy shit South Korea beat Portugal
East Asia's full of surprises this year |
DoofDoof
12.02.22 | These third games of the group stage have been excellent, good World Cup so far but history tells us it's the knockout stage where you really need the classic matches |
outliers
12.02.22 | That Korea win was goosebumps man |
SharkTooth
12.02.22 | idk man, even in knockout stages the games can be p slow |
Demon of the Fall
12.02.22 | against all odds I’m now vaguely interested in this shit-show, the fairytale surprises are getting to me!
Asia as a continent doing the best I can ever remember, except Qatar themselves, amusingly… I mean the Saudis went out in the end but even they shocked Argentina |
Demon of the Fall
12.02.22 | Africa has last 16 representatives, good showing for them as well. Morocco & Tunisia even winning their groups
Add Australia in and there’s a lot of variety in this knockout phase, not just endless European teams with a smattering of South American ones |
Egarran
12.02.22 | Playing this time of year really helps the non-europeans.
At least that's what the pundits tell me. I personally believe there's black magic involved. |
rabidfish
12.02.22 | wish Uruguay made it, just to see Bra-Uru and the violence that would've ensued! |
Rolling Girl
12.02.22 | Holy shit was not expecting Cameroon to be the ones to score on Brazil. wish they could've advanced as well.
While am obligated to root for Brazil. I'll shed a tear when they eliminate SK next. |
beefshoes
12.02.22 | @Egarran I think there's also an issue with schedule congestion and fatigue, given that this is happening in the heat of the European calendar. Really benefits the players who are relatively rested from playing in a different schedule. |
Egarran
12.02.22 | Well at least it makes for a fun world cup.
We even got a wholesome red card: https://dubz.co/v/0st751 |
Faraudo
12.02.22 | Poland has been absolute garbage tbh, Mexico should've won against them. Knockout stages are always fun when Mexico is around and probably deserved to go through a bit more than boring ass Poland, but it is what it is. |
rabidfish
12.03.22 | my predictions for the next knock-out stages:
USA - Argentina
Croatia - Brasil
Senegal - France
Morrocco - Portugal |
beefshoes
12.03.22 | Definitely can't argue with that. Fantastic world cup.
Feeling confident about the US tomorrow too. |
Rolling Girl
12.03.22 | How about now? |
outliers
12.03.22 | RIP |
gravityswitch
12.03.22 | that was some dreadfull football my guys ngl |
beefshoes
12.03.22 | lol yeah |
Shemson
12.03.22 | Just like America to ignore a constant and persistent threat from the right wing |
Taxt
12.03.22 | US looked terrible today lmao |
beefshoes
12.03.22 | I'm just glad that Japan and South Korea are both there to support. Backing England as always, but goddamn Southgate is just awful. |
zakalwe
12.03.22 | Unlucky Australia. Played with heart, gutted for ya.
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gravityswitch
12.03.22 | Very fun match, was rooting for straya at the end |
Egarran
12.03.22 | Damn they had two huge chances too. That solo run omg.
And now Matt Ryan is gonna feel like shit.
But they can be proud. |
Taxt
12.03.22 | Messi had a great game in the 2nd half, created some great chances for the forwards, all of which were totally botched. Not gonna fly in the next rounds. |
Muzz79
12.03.22 | Proud of our boys this morning. We pushed the Argies till the end and could have taken it to ET there at the death. Messi was great and punished us but we made it hard on ourselves with that defensive balls up. Ah well that’s football |
rabidfish
12.03.22 | Messi is the goat. Simple as.
Sad for USA, they didn't seem like the solid team that got there. The 3 goals were the same defensive mistake. |
Taxt
12.04.22 | Senegal pls, you know what you have to do |
zakalwe
12.04.22 | Play shite would be good for a start
🏴 |
Heppasodge
12.04.22 | Messi’s decision making ability is mind boggling. Literal man amongst boys |
Demon of the Fall
12.04.22 | always has been, even without his pace he’s elite because of his creativity and decision making. Incredible really. The true complete attacker, unreliable on physical skills etc. |
Demon of the Fall
12.04.22 | Mbappe is going to smash England in the QF, it’s pretty much inevitable
I think tonight’s game should be okay for them, although not easy. |
DoofDoof
12.04.22 | Hopefully Mbappe shits the bed at some stage like Fat Ronaldo tbh |
Demon of the Fall
12.04.22 | he was waddling his broken arse through till that final, truly the end of an era 😂… (the greatest peak no.9 though, for sure).
I think Mbappe, despite the diva-ish behaviour, hasn’t gotten there yet. Maybe if he wins another WC he can go full R9. |
Pikazilla
12.04.22 | "Hopefully Mbappe shits the bed at some stage like Fat Ronaldo tbh"
Yes, France please fuck off |
zakalwe
12.04.22 | Blimey.
Roll on next Saturday |
DoofDoof
12.04.22 | Bellingham sensational I have to say. Henderson first name on the team sheet though, playing like a man possessed, or a man who knows it’s his last rodeo anyway. |
zakalwe
12.04.22 | Yeah Bellingham is looking absolute class.
Walker against Mbappe should be interesting.
I’m praying for an England v Argentina final.
It’ll be Bulldog tattoo done on me forearm the lot if it happens. |
DoofDoof
12.04.22 | Probably too much to hope yeah
Reece James instead of Walker would have been a huge improvement - that could be the weakness |
Egarran
12.04.22 | Crazy that Bellingham is only 19 years old. Def my favourite for England. |
Rolling Girl
12.04.22 | As my family is Brazilian I hope y'all praising Messi / Argentina get a mild case of covid or something |
Pheromone
12.04.22 | Bellingham finally showing that Dortmund form in an England shirt this tournament, been absolutely class. Kane looking great and finally getting the goal. Foden + Saka looking consistently smashing it too ok wow good times ahead. England to lose 3-0 to France. |
rabidfish
12.05.22 | Kane is pure class.
Mbappe can only be stopped through sheer malice and anti sportsmanship. Better give this message to the boys |
rabidfish
12.05.22 | Break the fucker to tears and on a stretcher. |
Scheumke
12.05.22 | @Rolling Girl as a dutchy, I'm by definition +1 on that. Still have ptsd from the semi final penalty session 2014. |
DoofDoof
12.05.22 | Japan should be banned from the next four World Cups based on how embarrassing that penalty shootout was.
I was wanting them to win but that was unreal |
outliers
12.05.22 | such a stupid way to decide that important of a game |
zakalwe
12.05.22 | Penalties are the only way |
DoofDoof
12.05.22 | It really looked like the three players who struck the weak ones had never taken a penalty under pressure before |
smaugman
12.05.22 | everyone boycott this stupid world cup lmao |
Rolling Girl
12.05.22 | Such a tragic way for them to go out too. They've been playing so well until then.
At least I won't have to see them lose to Brazil I guess. |
DoofDoof
12.05.22 | It’s already been one of the better recent world cups
The boycott has flopped, one of the worst boycotts in living memory |
rabidfish
12.05.22 | Japan got served on their weakness. You need a bit of malice and mischievousness for penalties. It's mind games! |
Dmax28
12.05.22 | I love the way Japan plays. |
gravityswitch
12.05.22 | I'm already stocking beer for the France - England game.
If we win I don't care about winning 2 WCs in a row. Job will have been done. |
SlothcoreSam
12.06.22 | Let's go 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦 |
Cormano
12.06.22 | crazy ass match for real
I'm still in awe |
Rolling Girl
12.06.22 | Lets go!! Incredible work from Morocco |
beefshoes
12.06.22 | Pure magic! 🇲🇦
Seriously, what a fantastic match. |
Kusangii
12.06.22 | So happy Spain got knocked out. They are so insanely overrated and past their prime a very long time ago. Like how can you have such an insane amount of possession + passing and not score a single goal in 120 minutes? So bad. |
Rolling Girl
12.06.22 | Losing to both Morocco and Japan too. I really hope this World cup brings some much deserved attention to non European players/teams. This cup has been incredible. |
SlothcoreSam
12.06.22 | Poor CR7 on the bench, the Saudis won't be happy |
rabidfish
12.06.22 | Spain were a disgrace. No self love, no dignity, no passion. Deserved to leave at group stage, Morocco did justice.
Hope they get to semis, too |
Egarran
12.06.22 | Definitely the worst game yet at this WC. Now this Por-Sui on the other hand gives me much joy.
Turned out benching Ronaldo was super effective. |
CugnoBrasso
12.06.22 | Well my hopes for Switzerland didn't really last long... |
Pheromone
12.07.22 | Morocco with the Palestine flag
legends |
Egarran
12.07.22 | Ugh I'm at my dil's birthday party on saturday. I may get ill and have to go home at about the time Eng-Fra starts. |
beefshoes
12.09.22 | So goddamn happy that Croatia made it through |
zakalwe
12.09.22 | Yeah it was well deserved. Croatia are a bloomin strong team.
Looking forward to Holland v Argentina up next. |
Scheumke
12.09.22 | Wish us luck. NL vs KR semi final lets goooo |
Demon of the Fall
12.09.22 | Just when Brazil looked good, hmm
I’ll sacrifice England so Portugal don’t make it through, has to be done for the good of the world. You can thank us later |
Demon of the Fall
12.09.22 | The other side of the draw is anyone’s game! |
DoofDoof
12.09.22 | Knock out round has started well - still a very very very good World Cup. on. the. field |
Rolling Girl
12.09.22 | Not sure when I'll recover from this one :c |
SlothcoreSam
12.09.22 | The way the Brazilian players, as well as some others around the world, prey, sickens me.
Let's go Croatia!
Edit.
Let me elaborate.
You are a top star athlete, handed down genes from your ancestry. Worked your ass off to get where you are. But you still need to put your hands up to the sky, or kneel down to the ground, to seek a little bit of help from your god?
Or you were born with a disability in a developing country. Your family struggles to feed itself, but you and your family prey 1000 times more often then this prima Donna sports star.
If there was a God, and I was religious, and I was as good as a footballer as Neymar.
Then I wouldn't be preying to score a penalty, I'd be preying that my fellow human beings have enough food to eat.
Fuck religious sports people and their superior genes! |
Scheumke
12.09.22 | Holy fucking hjdjsdjbskdmsnsdnm WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON |
DoofDoof
12.09.22 | Snarf! Argentina! Snarf! |
Scheumke
12.09.22 | If we win this I'm gonna lose my shit |
outliers
12.09.22 | what a day of futbol jfc |
Scheumke
12.09.22 | What a game. Difficult match for the referee lol. Was a cointoss at the end. Shame, now I don't care who wins as long as it aint Argentina xD. |
zakalwe
12.09.22 | Crushing disappointment |
Scheumke
12.09.22 | As a country we are never gonna get over this. 8 years ago in the semi's, now this. Fuck Argentina jezus. I hope Kroatia will make Messi cry |
Taxt
12.09.22 | Jesus my heart |
gravityswitch
12.09.22 | I need to take a fat shit after those two games
I'm too old for this shit |
beefshoes
12.09.22 | If Croatia plays like they did today, they'll definitely do well against Argentina. |
rabidfish
12.09.22 | Messi is goat. Van Gaal is human waste. Justice. |
DoofDoof
12.09.22 | Croatia have a lot more to offer than that Dutch side so there is hope
If Kane doesn’t end up lifting the trophy let it be Modric |
rabidfish
12.09.22 | Messi
Messi
Messi
Only Messi |
Thalassic
12.09.22 | I'm aware that my hatred for Argentina - especially as a football nation - is probably completely irrational, but I still need to get a "fuck Argentina" off my chest. |
gravityswitch
12.09.22 | 50% of that team is despicable. Just look at that Paredes fucker |
zakalwe
12.09.22 | With the ref dishing out cards like no tomorrow Messi gets off having blatantly handballed the thing.
Bloke irritates the fucking life out of me. Hope he has an absolute mare if they make the final.
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Thalassic
12.09.22 | @gravityswitch
For real. There's like so many arrogant twats in that team it makes watching them play unpleasant. A shame really, because when they stick to playing and forget about being smug douchebags for a while they actually bring some very attractive football to the table. |
Scheumke
12.09.22 | Just rewatched that Parades action. Injuring tackle into injuring tackle into full on shooting into the dutch teams dugout. How tf did the var let him get away with that. Messi playing volleyball idem. |
Thalassic
12.09.22 | Hopefully Morocco 🇲🇦 is gonna kick Portugal out of the cup tomorrow |
Egarran
12.09.22 | Two awesome games. NL - Argentina is a classic already.
This world cup delivers. I'm sorry for people who get angry watching it. |
rabidfish
12.09.22 | If every other Argentina player were convicted felons and murderers, if Messi plays for Argentina idgaf. GOAT. How can you hate greatness, you fucking idiots |
Thalassic
12.09.22 | I'm not even gonna deny that Messi's GOAT, but still: fuck Argentina |
Egarran
12.09.22 | So lucky Paredes didn't get sent off for that blast at the Dutch bench. Epic stuff. |
Taxt
12.09.22 | That Messi assist on the first goal was so filthy |
wham49
12.09.22 | Today was crazy,
Was teaching class and kids were going nuts, got to see the tying goal from the Dutch |
rabidfish
12.10.22 | Messi's assist was pure class. Dude's playing his best World Cup so far, he's on another level.
Modric vs. Messi is going to be epic. |
Muzz79
12.10.22 | Come on England 🏴. Good luck out there lads |
Egarran
12.10.22 | Top down angle of the assist and I'm drooling: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/zh72vh/this_angle_of_messis_assist/ |
Muzz79
12.10.22 | That’s pretty sweet |
zakalwe
12.10.22 | 🏴 |
anat
12.10.22 | 3-2 AET to the lions |
rabidfish
12.10.22 | i just hope they don't pussy out like Spain. Whoever wins, but play with passion. |
Rolling Girl
12.10.22 | "but I still need to get a "fuck Argentina" off my chest"
Always valid. If Morocco goes out I'll have to root for them or Portugal (as long as Ronaldo is off the field).
FUCK Argentina |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | Could Morocco do a Greece at the Euros and actually win this thing?
Probably not but still |
Scheumke
12.10.22 | What absolute legends. Know a lot of Marocean people, what this means to them is undescribable, like they've won it already. Happy to see them go through! |
zakalwe
12.10.22 | Was meaning to stay at home and watch this one but just can’t do it. Boozer it is.
Come on England!!!!
‘86 - Haven’t got over it.
‘90 - Haven’t got over it.
‘98 - Haven’t got over it.
The whole ‘golden generation’ thing from early 2000s onwards 🗑️
Come on lads. Fucking do ‘em.
🏴 |
Hyperion1001
12.10.22 | go Morocco
Down with the west |
beefshoes
12.10.22 | Fuck Mbappe |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | Fuck Mbappe |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | Bap McFrappé |
rabidfish
12.10.22 | Break Mbappe, plz |
anat
12.10.22 | Mmmboppé |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | we look absolutely terrible - never once got out of walking pace
no tempo, no hope - unless that changes going home, the officials aren't going to help the cause that's for sure :D |
zakalwe
12.10.22 | Hold on.
It was a clear pen. We’ve had our chances.
It’s only 1 nil.
We are still in it.
🏴 |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | we're still in it...but we need to be a little braver than that
1-0 with 20 minutes to go might be good with our bench though |
DominionMM1
12.10.22 | oof kane |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | this is the most typical England exit ever - plucky failure again
minute I got France in the sweepstake knew they'd win this one, no other team has really emerged any better since the last WC |
Demon of the Fall
12.10.22 | I don’t wish hate on anyone, but watch no one give a shit that Kane missed a pen vs what happened at the Euros
I’ll be waiting |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | well...he did score one too ;)
'fans' have been calling for him to be dropped all tournament anyway, they 'hate' everything, there's not a load of brain activity going on there |
Demon of the Fall
12.10.22 | I’m not taking about the reasonable people amongst us Doof, I think you know
but yes |
Demon of the Fall
12.10.22 | France probably a bit too savvy for us, good tournament team and will probably win it. From what I’m sending we weren’t emphatically outplayed or anything … unless we were? Idk someone needs to let me know because I didn’t catch all of it
Barely seen any of the tournament |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | We were much better second half, better then France tbh - had the momentum, but Maguire missing the same chance as Giroud scored, then Kane missing because he had to wait ANOTHER five minutes to take a second penalty...France were the one team I didn't want England to face before the final. Def my most hated international team currently but think they're a shoe in to win it now. |
DominionMM1
12.10.22 | I’m no expert but no the english didn’t get outplayed; france just took better advantage of the chances.
hell of an effort by rashford at the end though |
anat
12.10.22 | overall we were probably better, no shame in the loss at all, “better” teams have been felled by “lesser” teams |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | Just fine margins, France didn't have that many chances second half, Giroud wafting about looking like he just got laid and it seems to plop on his head every cross - typical France really, Mbappe had two good moments and that was about it |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | 'overall we were probably better, no shame in the loss at all, “better” teams have been felled by “lesser” teams'
It's the fact that analysis could have been written about twenty times since 1966 is the problem, it's become 'what England do' |
anat
12.10.22 | I can’t remember too many times where we’ve been eliminated despite playing better - normally it’s way more of a bottling |
rabidfish
12.10.22 | Lol
Lmao
How do you let Mbappe laugh like that in ur face and not break his neck I don't get it. Fuck football just break the fuckers nose. |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | anat - usually plucky failures whether penalty kicks or not.
This will also go down as a bottling because of the Kane miss - the history books are cruel. |
zakalwe
12.10.22 | You can only be saved by penalties so many times.
It’s another one on the list of ‘what could have beens’
|
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | Supporting Spurs and England is a scenario with zero respite - just unrelenting hope then despair ;) |
zakalwe
12.10.22 | Different when It comes to the national team it really is.
The hope gets whacked up several notches. |
Demon of the Fall
12.10.22 | ‘We were much better second half, better then France tbh - had the momentum, but Maguire missing the same chance as Giroud scored’
to be fair the angle of the delivery made Giroud’s chance a tad easier, I’m not actively wanting to defend slabhead here, but it wasn’t a bad effort at all. Giroud is a great striker aerially, too |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | Zak - no, the CL final was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced. It genuinely made me question whether to carry on watching football, it just was so bitterly disappointing
I’m already over England going out tonight, the CL exit took about 3-6 months, it drove me mad. That was probably one chance in a lifetime really. England will be there or there abouts a load more times.
Spurs could fall away into mid table mediocrity for a decade any time |
zakalwe
12.10.22 | I couldn’t disagree more doof.
The CL final was fuck me what a result just being there let’s see what happens.
Unfortunately what happens was we were shite.
The England thing goes back further, there’s more expectation, more excitement, more hurt. |
beefshoes
12.10.22 | That miss is probably going to haunt Kane for the rest of his life.
Just an all round class act, seems like a great guy, and I hope that he can eventually clench some silverware. What a shit evening |
SlothcoreSam
12.10.22 | Fucking Mmmmbappe's open mouth smile could swallow a lot of French cock at once.
Just an observation, that's the logo on their shirt after all. |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | The Spurs CL run was an island of hope in an absolute turd of a double season of shit - the results were insane and magic, esp Moura getting those late goals. Also the VAR City knock out, truly a huge shock, incredible result. Better than any England result for 20 years tbh, maybe longer. England don’t do knocking out better sides in comps. The final also killed Poch, he effectively resigned before the game kicked off - marking the end of an era of some great times being a Spurs fan.
Liverpool fans were very ‘WE might never win anything for a long time too’ who I spoke to but I don’t think they got it, that was the one chance for spurs to ever win it in my lifetime.
Italy euros final was a shitter but I could live with it, as I can with this. Nothing good has happened as a spurs fan since that CL defeat, it was death…and I have to follow those cunts most of the year lol |
Demon of the Fall
12.10.22 | it’s a shame we won’t have another Kane any time soon, the window is closing
Foden, Saka, Bellingham & James are all elite talents though, my definition is harsher than most and I believe that
Need a couple more and we have a chance |
Evenoss
12.10.22 | "France please fuck off"
"Fuck Mbappe"
"Fuck football just break the fuckers nose"
"Fucking Mmmmbappe's open mouth smile could swallow a lot of French cock at once"
Hey, I just came here to lick those tasty tears 😋
Still sorry for the english players and supporters. We were outplayed in second half and probably wouldn't have lasted if there had been overtime. |
DoofDoof
12.10.22 | Demon - Rice is good enough to add to that list too, still very young. Rashford will knock about for a while, could get better or be totally spent within two or three years.
Grealish is done though, goodbye and goodnight. Proper David Bentley. |
Jasdevi087
12.10.22 | haha poms fucking lost again go morocco |
Demon of the Fall
12.10.22 | I’m sorry Doof, Rice will never be elite, he’s good but his ceiling is ‘Liverpool Henderson’ (pretty good, but needs proper talent around him).
If they were younger, I’d include Walker & Sterling |
Egarran
12.10.22 | What a great game, both teams should be proud.
Winter WC best WC. |
Thalassic
12.10.22 | I'm rooting for a Croatia-Morocco final so damn hard |
gravityswitch
12.10.22 | I can finally unclench. What a game.
It will be a good fucking night. GG next time England :D |
Hovse
12.11.22 | I'm rooting for a Croatia-Morocco final so damn hard [2]
Agreed both have my respect..hopefully they keep on fighting to the end. |
Muzz79
12.11.22 | Tough for Kane. If he hadn’t taken it and another player missed we’d all say Kane should’ve taken it. He’d already scored a pen so bigger chance of missing the second. Also up against his club mate. He went top left to make it unsaveable but overcooked it. Really was a battle of nerves and unfortunately couldn’t nail it. Was down the middle the better go - probably in hindsight |
zakalwe
12.11.22 | This one is bloomin hard to swallow I can tell ya.
Oh well back to the cricket. |
Kusangii
12.11.22 | Happy that Ronaldo had a shit tournament and Messi is still in it |
DDDeftoneDDD
12.11.22 | Me soooo saaaad |
CugnoBrasso
12.11.22 | Defty, you guys annihilated us 6-1, be happy about that |
beefshoes
12.11.22 | Generally ambivalent on the whole but I nonetheless dislike Messi as a personality more than I do CR7, and that dislike extends to Barca as a whole. They had this holier than thou guise for years between the Unicef kit sponsorship and championing the Catalan movement, only to end up revealing themselves to being just as dirty and corrupt as everyone else (probably more so) after a decade of shady dealing and mismanagement in order to stay afloat. And then Messi goes on to become a partner with the Saudi government and join PSG with a chorus of obnoxious fans still beautifying him as a saint. Nothing against the Guardiola era and what they accomplished, but all of that culminates in me wanting Argentina to go down hard this week, even if France end up being the ones making it happen. Also not looking forward to Messi moving to the MLS. It'll be a repeat of Beckham times a thousand. Any time anyone mentions football here, it'll be met with something related to Messi and Inter Miami guaranteed. |
Egarran
12.11.22 | A lot to unwrap there. I don't even understand the last sentence.
All we can be sure of is that Messi is the goat. |
gravityswitch
12.11.22 | I see Messi ending his career at PSG or returning to Barca if they suddenly have magic money. Can't see him moving to MLS but I never thought he moves out from barca so... |
rabidfish
12.11.22 | Messi is King David. Ronaldo is Aquiles. Choose wisely. |
rabidfish
12.12.22 | Messi, Pelé and Maradona >>>>>>
Europeans stay seething
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Egarran
12.12.22 | They have brought us much joy. At least they play in Europe. |
zakalwe
12.12.22 | Greatest Argentine player of the last 30yrs?
Batistuta
Greatest South American player
Fat Ronaldo |
Thalassic
12.12.22 | Nah Messi is the greatest player that ever set foot on a football field.
Look at the guy's stats. They're insane.
The sooner a team like Argentina gets kicked out of a World Cup the happier I become, but there's no point in denying Messi's greatness. |
zakalwe
12.12.22 | International stats, goal per-game Batigol was better.
Absolute leader on the pitch. |
Thalassic
12.12.22 | Wasn't Batistuta's record surpassed by Messi? |
zakalwe
12.12.22 | Total goals scored yeah.
Batistuta played less games. He literally crippled himself giving it his all.
And again it’s not about stats. It’s what you bring to those around you by being the individual you are.
It’s why Maradona is the greatest of all time. |
DoofDoof
12.12.22 | For pure decisive impact on games I'd rate Cronaldo ahead of Messi |
zakalwe
12.12.22 | Ron the blob > |
DoofDoof
12.12.22 | Maybe...but C Ronaldo will have played in 400 more senior games which does even it out a bit, the blob wasn't built to last |
beefshoes
12.13.22 | 🇭🇷 |
Thalassic
12.13.22 | 🇭🇷 [2] |
rabidfish
12.13.22 | GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND SUCK HIS DICK, HE IS MESSI |
beefshoes
12.13.22 | Credit where credit is due for sure. |
Egarran
12.13.22 | They just made Croatia their bitch. Impressive for a semi. |
Rolling Girl
12.13.22 | Honestly a little cathartic to watch. |
Taxt
12.13.22 | Credit to Alvarez for that 2nd goal, that was amazing |
unclereich
12.14.22 | I’m still watching replays of it hours later. 🇦🇷 |
Demon of the Fall
12.14.22 | 'Greatest Argentine player of the last 30yrs?
Batistuta'
Batistuta was one of my fave players growing up, used to watch a lot of Serie A and the guy was a beast... but nah, not even close |
Demon of the Fall
12.14.22 | 'Generally ambivalent on the whole but I nonetheless dislike Messi as a personality more than I do CR7'
I dislike Barca as much as the next guy, holier-than-thou club despite being corrupt af, but the argument falls down completely when you realise CR7 actually raped someone |
beefshoes
12.14.22 | Fair enough. Not defending CR7 after all |
rabidfish
12.14.22 | how can you dislike Messi? what?
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Taxt
12.14.22 | Praying for Morocco to pull it off today |
Cormano
12.14.22 | rip
still in awe at their spirit, fought till the very last second, what an incredible match |
Thalassic
12.15.22 | Yeah I was really rooting for Morocco as well. And not just because I grew up with a lot of people of Moroccan descent. They really showed that having a good fighting spirit can get you far in a World Cup as opposed to a lot of teams that were just going through the motions.
Welp...now I guess I'm gonna be supporting my French neighbors |
DoofDoof
12.15.22 | I'll support Messi in the final, the greats should win the greatest prize to cement their legacy - he's had a solid tournament, he should sign off with a spectacular final performance.
If he crumbles then honestly there will always be reservations naming him as one of the top 10 or 20 true giants of the game |
Demon of the Fall
12.15.22 | I don't agree with that, football has evolved into (even) more of a team game than it ever was, one player's greatness is no longer enough to elevate those around them, not to that extent anyway. It helps, obviously.
I also think club football is of a higher level than international football now, there's more time for the coaches to implement their complex tactical set-ups and therefore less space to work with on the ball / quicker thinking required etc. There's so much space in international football and it often looks disjointed in comparison. |
Demon of the Fall
12.15.22 | so yeah, limiting the top 10 or 20 'giants' of the game to just those that have won the WC seems nonsensical in the modern era, because the ultimate test of a player now is elite club football
times change |
Thalassic
12.15.22 | And in terms of club football achievements Messi's unsurpassed |
Demon of the Fall
12.15.22 | what are you saying here dedex?
I think if you get the France team, make them a club side and then did the same for the teams they've played against, their domination would actually be greater...
but put them up against a top club side in their current 'international football form' and I reckon they'd come unstuck |
DoofDoof
12.15.22 | If he scores the winning goal (or spectacularly sets up the winning goal) in the final then you will understand my point because the difference in how he is regarded and what winning the WC to him means will become clear ;) |
Demon of the Fall
12.15.22 | ah, I didn't actually see the 'fosho' bit dedex, so thought it was a direct response and not an agreement, whoops |
DoofDoof
12.15.22 | Demon, it’s not just the WC - but currently the underperforming on the international stage is a stick to beat him with.
Stats mean little in that the whole game has changed and there are just more games now than before.
You will se what I mean if he has a good final and argies win ;) |
notagenius
12.16.22 | France is really strong, I hope Argentina wins. |
gravityswitch
12.16.22 | I hope not just because of that racist chant at the start of the WC.
Well and also because I'm French. Winning it two times in a row will be the crowing achievement of Deschamps. |
beefshoes
12.16.22 | Even with what I already said about Messi, as a bianconeri, getting behind Deschamps is an easy choice. |
Demon of the Fall
12.16.22 | 'Demon, it’s not just the WC - but currently the underperforming on the international stage is a stick to beat him with.'
he's been great this tournament, carried Argentina in '14 as well if memory serves (yeah, they were beaten in the final, but Germany were so much better as a team that it was always likely). |
beefshoes
12.18.22 | Brb getting my Maradonna wig and yerba mate |
SlothcoreSam
12.18.22 | Team of tournament.
Playing a 4-3-2-1
GK: Livakovic
RB: Hakimi
CB: Gvardiol
CB: Saiss
LB: Hernandez
CM: Amrabat
CM: Modric
CM: Bellingham
RF: Mbappe
LF: Messi
ST: Alverez |
Pheromone
12.18.22 | I want Argentina to win but they’ve had so many soft as shit pens in these knockouts man
Gifting Messi the wc |
zakalwe
12.18.22 | Fucking disgrace. |
KnickFurey
12.18.22 | Pathetic pen lmao |
zakalwe
12.18.22 | Lovely stuff by the Argies for that 2nd one. |
brainmelter
12.18.22 | yea that was sweet |
DoofDoof
12.18.22 | Di Maria has been amazing in this.
Fook the French side |
DoofDoof
12.18.22 | There you go - Messi scores the winning goal. Football immortality complete |
DoofDoof
12.18.22 | Ok spoke too soon lol |
Demon of the Fall
12.18.22 | Damn, what a final! Looked like a dead game with Argentina by far the better side, before Otamendi gifted France that penalty… I can’t believe what happened. afterwards.
Both Messi & Mbappe turned up on the biggest stage. ET was insanely open and could’ve gone either way. Great fun, you couldn’t have wished for any more. |
DominionMM1
12.18.22 | not a fan of games being decided on penalties but the args deserved the win |
DoofDoof
12.18.22 | One of the best WC finals - Messi has done it |
anat
12.18.22 | Wasn’t too bothered about this final but fair fucks that was a great game |
DoofDoof
12.18.22 | Football was quality this tournament - everything else about the tournament was pretty much nonsense but it proves how important the football quality is because I think this was a surprisingly incredible tournament despite everything else
Worst mass boycott decision ever - if fans really did boycott it |
Demon of the Fall
12.18.22 | I watched 4 games and random bits & bobs
Half a boycott? 😄 |
Rolling Girl
12.18.22 | Can't believe I had to cheer for Argentina on this. Fantastic game truly.
Don't think boycotts got a lot of attention either. But yeah despite everything going into this tournament it was a delight to watch |
DoofDoof
12.18.22 | Demon - a lot of great games this tournament.
The best game being the final is special though. |
rabidfish
12.18.22 | Log in
MESSI is the GOAT
Log off |
beefshoes
12.18.22 | One of the best games I've ever seen. It was pure magic, and I take back everything I said earlier about Messi. Nothing but lame shitposting. The man is a GOAT and a half, and then some. |
outliers
12.18.22 | imagine scoring a hat trick just to lose on pks |
rabidfish
12.18.22 | The perfect villain. Good game, Mbappe, God knows I respect a player with cojones. |
IsisScript80
12.18.22 | "But yeah despite everything going into this tournament it was a delight to watch"
Yeah, absolutely shit background and politics, but in terms of football alone, utterly INCREDIBLE. So glad Argentina won it, for Messi (and Di Maria). Best tournament (and definitely final) I've ever seen.
"I watched 4 games and random bits & bobs
Half a boycott?"
That's a boy or a cott... not sure which.
|
Egarran
12.18.22 | Fantastic stuff. The script writers for this WC deserve all the Emmys. |
IsisScript80
12.18.22 | ^ Ain't that the truth... golden era HBO stuff, for sure. |
gravityswitch
12.18.22 | It will sting for some time but Argentina deserved it for the first 70min. It's a good fairytale for Messi I guess.
Also fuck french haters. We're playing with B-team ffs. We're still be here and menacing in 4 years. |
OllieS
12.18.22 | I obviously say this with hindsight, but a big F and RIP to the OP's Morocco prediction |
beefshoes
12.18.22 | Very happy about that too. Watching Morocco was an absolute joy. Only one goal conceded though the semi-final is just mental. |
heyadam
12.18.22 | Martinez with the save of the fuckin century though |
DoofDoof
12.19.22 | Martinez was incredible that game and shootout…then he went and channelled Adam Sandler with the glove statue crotch thing he did which was, uh, epic too I guess |
gravityswitch
12.19.22 | Between his antics, the "Mbappe is dead" in the locker room (after conceiding four goals lmao) and his moronic explanation (was booed during the crotch celebration) he instantly became an enemy n°1 for every french here. Nobody's talking about the soft pen etc, we're just talking shit about Martinez and how much we hate him 😂 |
rabidfish
12.19.22 | He talked the talk cuz he walked the walk. Seethe more. You'll get plenty more chances with a player like Mbappe, don't you worry |
IsisScript80
12.19.22 | gravityswitch--Yeah, he's a massive piss-taker, but TBH, his antics and performances were a large, memorable part of what made the (again, on-field action ONLY) tournament so great. Kinda like Maradona's 'Hand of God' troll-goal against England in '86, and greatest World Cup goal EVER in the SAME GAME.
Awesomeness for the ages. |
Taxt
12.19.22 | Macron trying so hard for the cameras after the game, hanging all over Mbappe, what a fucking loser |
notagenius
12.20.22 | The final was so good, two days on and I can still feel the excitement. France were so strange in the first half, totally inefficient defending, just like Brazil in '98. If not for France's poor first half performance, Argentina may not have won the title. |
Zig
12.20.22 | Messi completed football. |
Rolling Girl
12.20.22 | This might be an odd question. But are the club games really worth keeping up with at all? Maybe its just me or maybe it's because futbol isn't big in the US, but I never really bothered to keep up with European leagues or MLS |
Kusangii
12.20.22 | CL knockout games are fun to watch, other than that I don't care that much |
Egarran
12.20.22 | The Premier League is fun, just don't get too attached to any team. |
IsisScript80
12.20.22 | "This might be an odd question. But are the club games really worth keeping up with at all? Maybe its just me or maybe it's because futbol isn't big in the US, but I never really bothered to keep up with European leagues or MLS"
I grew up fanatical about club football, following the club my family supported for three generations. However, my relationship with it, and the game in general changed the deeper I got into adulthood, to the point that it dwindled to basically nothing. I still watch the international events (for me, Euros and World Cup), but nothing really club wise.
Although, that said, club football has an incredible amount of quality in it, and these multi-billionaire clubs try to vacuum up the top superstars to build their fantasy teams. |
rabidfish
12.20.22 | i watch the CL and EL finals, and the classics: juve-inter (and/or inter-milan), liverpool-man utd, river-boca, barsa-real, bayer-borussia.
Man city-Liverpool has become a must watch these last couple of years, too. |
beefshoes
12.20.22 | Even as a neutral, you'd certainly be spoiled for choice when it comes to watching and getting into quality club football. There's almost always something great to watch and follow, and the UCL/Copa Libertadores can definitely rival the drama, excitement, and suspense of the World Cup. Just don't feel pressured to jump into supporting a club. The club will find you, and then you'll inevitably experience the emotional roller-coaster and baggage that comes with it. |
Rolling Girl
12.20.22 | Thanks y'all! I haven't watched a lot outside of international tournaments and such before. But I can't remember ever enjoying watching it so much and I'm definitely gonna try and keep up with Libertadores at the very least. |
notagenius
12.21.22 | derby games between clubs are fun, the UEFA Champions League is great too. I used to be a Dortmund fan, but now I'm much less enthusiastic about the club. the national team always has more of a national spirit in it. |
